andrew jones cneter fielder for la la land

[Fredia]

just heard it on the radio. no confirming link yet. they where talking bout how much more he coule have made if he had had a better year

[ValpoCory]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3143653

"The Gold Glove center fielder and the Dodgers reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday night on a $36.2 million, two-year contract that gives him the fifth-highest average salary in the major leagues."

Andruwski batted .222 last year.  Who's his agent again?  The Devil at least screws the Dodgers this time.

[Astroholic]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3143653

"The Gold Glove center fielder and the Dodgers reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday night on a $36.2 million, two-year contract that gives him the fifth-highest average salary in the major leagues."

Andruwski batted .222 last year.  Who's his agent again?  At least it screws the Dodgers.

18 mm a year.  Bwwwwwwhhhhhhaaaaa!  18 mil.  Killing me.  Looks like Boras had an ace up his sleeve after all.

[Jose Cruz III]

Any list of good things that Astros management has done this year should also include that they did not sign a .220 hitter for 18 million per year.

This signing is ridiculous.

[ValpoCory]

I expect to hear the Dodgers' brass say something like this,   "We heard other teams were offering $17M per, but that he'd sign with us for $18.1".

[Gizzmonic]

They were smart enough to let Adrian Beltre go, but dumb enough to fall for this?

Good luck LA!

just heard it on the radio. no confirming link yet. they where talking bout how much more he coule have made if he had had a better year

[Noe]

Actually, this is a nice deal for LA in that since this is a Boras client and if you think back to what he got for JD Drew, Andruw Jones is getting much less in overall contract money.  I'm surprised Boras wasn't able to talk the Dodgers into giving Jones 5-7 years in contract length.

Ned Colletti is just another of the growing list of GMs who like to keep Boras in a box.

[JimR]

Actually, this is a nice deal for LA in that since this is a Boras client and if you think back to what he got for JD Drew, Andruw Jones is getting much less in overall contract money.  I'm surprised Boras wasn't able to talk the Dodgers into giving Jones 5-7 years in contract length.

Ned Colletti is just another of the growing list of GMs who like to keep Boras in a box.

so, what is this "major trade" that the Astros were on the verge of?

[Jose Cruz III]

Actually, this is a nice deal for LA in that since this is a Boras client and if you think back to what he got for JD Drew, Andruw Jones is getting much less in overall contract money.  I'm surprised Boras wasn't able to talk the Dodgers into giving Jones 5-7 years in contract length.

Ned Colletti is just another of the growing list of GMs who like to keep Boras in a box.

Slice is however you want. It is a ridiculous signing.

[MusicMan]

I was wondering too.  If it was truly "major", then at least one arm had to be involved.

I wonder if there was talk with the Tigers to spin Dontrelle back here.

[MusicMan]

Slice is however you want. It is a ridiculous signing.

It pales in comparison to their CF signing last year.

[Astroholic]

I was wondering too.  If it was truly "major", then at least one arm had to be involved.

I wonder if there was talk with the Tigers to spin Dontrelle back here.

For Whom?

[MusicMan]

I would guess Scott + arms (Albers and other?)

[Bench]

I would guess Scott + arms (Albers and other?)

Why would they want Scott when they already have a Thames/Jones platoon?

[hostros7]

How does one have any interest in signing Jones, a notoriously apathetic ballplayer, for that kind of money?  He had those abysmal numbers in a *contract year*.  

For what it's worth, I don't think the tigers have any interest in spinning off Dontrelle back down here for anything the astros would want to offer.  The buzz is too loud in Detroit...and Luke Scott + Albers ain't getting you a #2 starter in this market, even for starters in a deal.  Just think about what the Astros gave up for Jennings last year.  

[Jose Cruz III]

It pales in comparison to their CF signing last year.

I disagree. I would give Pierre more money than I would Andruw. Andy got double. Rowand's asking price just hit 20 million.

[GreatBagwellsBeard]

Somewhere, Darren Driefort is laughing.  And swimming in a pool of money.

[MusicMan]

I disagree. I would give Pierre more money than I would Andruw. Andy got double.

I'm going to beg the BFiBs to hire you.

[Noe]

Slice is however you want. It is a ridiculous signing.

Ridiculous is Gary Mathews Jr. at 5 years, 50 million.  Andruw Jones, a Scott Boras client, got less... *LESS*... in the open market.

[Noe]

so, what is this "major trade" that the Astros were on the verge of?

Don't know.  Tight lips all around right now.

[Noe]

I disagree. I would give Pierre more money than I would Andruw. Andy got double. Rowand's asking price just hit 20 million.

You truly misunderstand.  THE LENGTH of the contract is what makes Jones signing a bargain.  Rowand can ask for less per year, but stick to his guns that he wants five years minimum (JD Drew, Gary Mathews Jr. type of deals) and be waaaaay ahead of Andruw Jones.

Guaranteed money in the MLB makes contract length much more attractive than per year salary.  In the NFL, it's different.  This isn't the NFL.

[BUWebguy]

Ridiculous is Gary Mathews Jr. at 5 years, 50 million.  Andruw Jones, a Scott Boras client, got less... *LESS*... in the open market.

More per year, though. It's been reported that Boras/Jones were after either a really long deal or a short one. They didn't get their ideal long-term deal (thank you, .220 average), but they did pretty well with the short term deal they found.

[BUWebguy]

Don't know.  Tight lips all around right now.

No source, just completely idle speculation: Jose Valverde? Might be a nice answer for closer if the Astros don't want to go with Qualls.

[MusicMan]

No source, just completely idle speculation: Jose Valverde? Might be a nice answer for closer if the Astros don't want to go with Qualls.

In what rational world would the Astros choose Valverde over Qualls?

[Noe]

More per year, though. It's been reported that Boras/Jones were after either a really long deal or a short one. They didn't get their ideal long-term deal (thank you, .220 average), but they did pretty well with the short term deal they found.

But it reverts the contracts back to manageable contracts on the organization side.  4 years used to be the pinnacle of deals for ballplayers, now the norm is to hear mid-level to average ballplayers asking for and getting 5-6 years (instead of the two years they used to get if they were lucky).  Elite ballplayers now ask for and get 10 year contracts.

Those become albatross contracts.  I'd rather pay more per year and keep a contract length managable than give less per year and have to worry about being stuck with Mike Hampton or Kevin Brown types for many a year.  I didn't misgivings with Carlos Lee's contract money per year, I had a misgivings with the length because I think it's bad business.  But it's become the cost (in length) of doing business nowadays in the MLB so Houston is not at fault for paying market trends for elite free agents.

Andruw Jones having a contract revert back to manageable is refreshing and that this is Scott Boras we're talking about is even that much more refreshing.  LA did well on this one, I don't care how much Boras says "We were looking for a two year deal all along".

[Astroholic]

LA did well on this one,

 I understand where you are coming from but, I will just have to disagree with this. 18mm per. for Jones, is to damn much. 

[BUWebguy]

In what rational world would the Astros choose Valverde over Qualls?

I haven't seen much of Valverde, but he put up pretty impressive numbers last year -- barely over a baserunner an inning, more K's than baserunners. Looks like he's got a Saberhagen-esque even/odd year thing going, though. Also, 47 saves gives him the "proven closer" mantel; would SmithWade care about that?

[MusicMan]

I haven't seen much of Valverde, but he put up pretty impressive numbers last year -- barely over a baserunner an inning, more K's than baserunners. Looks like he's got a Saberhagen-esque even/odd year thing going, though. Also, 47 saves gives him the "proven closer" mantel; would SmithWade care about that?

I thought he was dumped by the DBacks and ended up at AAA for the White Sox.

[BUWebguy]

I think you must be thinking of someone else:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=5504

[Craig]

I guess now I'll start calling them the DodgUrs.

[Jose Cruz III]

I understand where you are coming from but, I will just have to disagree with this. 18mm per. for Jones, is to damn much. 

Word.

[Noe]

I understand where you are coming from but, I will just have to disagree with this. 18mm per. for Jones, is to damn much. 

If it makes your team better and it's reasonable length, it's a good deal.  We can disagree on the contract, that's fine, but do we disagree on the player?  Is he going to make them better or worse?  I say better.  Is the contract an albatross for a player that will make them better?  No.

Good deal for LA.

[Ty in Tampa]

If it makes your team better and it's reasonable length, it's a good deal.  We can disagree on the contract, that's fine, but do we disagree on the player?  Is he going to make them better or worse?  I say better.  Is the contract an albatross for a player that will make them better?  No.

Good deal for LA.

I lean towards your thinking. I'm sure Jones would have preferred a longer deal and the Dojers will get what they need for a couple of years.

[Astroholic]

If it makes your team better and it's reasonable length, it's a good deal.  We can disagree on the contract, that's fine, but do we disagree on the player?  Is he going to make them better or worse?  I say better.  Is the contract an albatross for a player that will make them better?  No.

Good deal for LA.

Jones might have been the best option out there at this time. 

[Twoniner]

  He makes them significantly better, won't be an albatross at the end of a long deal, and they gave up no players to get him.  The owner is just a little poorer for two seasons.  Obviously a good deal.   And whoever said Aaron Rowand is getting 20 million a season is high.

[TheWizard]

If you have a young kid learning to play the OF, tell them to watch video of Jones out there.  Between catching fly balls just over his shoulder and flipping the ball underhanded back into the infield, he can show any green youngster how to be a flashy, hot-dogging prima donna.. the RIGHT way.

[Limey]

I guess now I'll start calling them the DodgUrs.

[Golf Clap]

[pravata]

... I don't care how much Boras says "We were looking for a two year deal all along".

September
"I'll say this," Boras said. "I've been doing this for 32 years, and the marketplace for Andruw Jones, I expect, will be at the top tier for free agents. And a one-year contract ... I wouldn't even consider addressing a one-year contract with Andruw Jones." Link

October
Schuerholz didn't provide specifics regarding what was included in this e-mail. But he acknowledged that Boras is seeking a contract similar to the ones received by Vernon Wells and Alfonso Soriano before this season began. Both of them gained contracts that consisted of at least seven years and included an annual salary of at least $17 million.
Link

December
Sources say Jones initiated discussions with the Royals after drawing scant interest from efforts by agent Scott Boras to secure a contract that matches or exceeds the five-year,
Link