Author Topic: spAstros at stRangers - 6/23/07 (Read 5902 times)

austro · « **on:** June 23, 2007, 04:32:31 pm »

Jamie Fucking Wright. This is embarrassing. And why does Kenny Lofton own Roy?

MRaup · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2007, 04:44:21 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 23, 2007, 04:32:31 pm

Jamie Fucking Wright. This is embarrassing. And why does Kenny Lofton own Roy?

Why can't Roy protect a lead?

austro · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2007, 04:48:43 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 23, 2007, 04:44:21 pm

Why can't Roy protect a lead?

I don't know. It's an ongoing theme, and it's getting old. It would be convenient to blame his defense, but his defense didn't have anything to do with those three runs. Pence's throw was a joke, but Gary Maddox wouldn't have thrown that guy out, so it didn't matter.

mihoba · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2007, 04:50:59 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 23, 2007, 04:48:43 pm

I don't know. It's an ongoing theme, and it's getting old. It would be convenient to blame his defense, but his defense didn't have anything to do with those three runs. Pence's throw was a joke, but Gary Maddox wouldn't have thrown that guy out, so it didn't matter.

If Ensberg stopped that ball it would have saved one run.

austro · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2007, 04:53:08 pm »

I suppose. Ensberg definitely should have had that.

Alkie · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:25:13 pm »

That. Was huge.

Amy · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:30:21 pm »

Jesus, Mo can't even bunt? For the love of god...

austro · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:32:00 pm »

Apparently not. It's not exactly in his job description, but still...

And then fucking Lofton gives us the snow cone.

mihoba · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:33:16 pm »

Quote from: Amy on June 23, 2007, 05:30:21 pm

Jesus, Mo can't even bunt? For the love of god...

The catcher made a good play.

stubbyc · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:34:46 pm »

Quote from: MRaup on June 23, 2007, 04:44:21 pm

Why can't Roy protect a lead?

Those 1-0 leads are always so easy to protect in Arlington.

austro · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:41:06 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 23, 2007, 05:33:16 pm

The catcher made a good play.

Mo bunted that ball approximately 6 inches out in front of the plate. Laird made a good throw, but if he'd had to move more than two feet to get to the ball, he wouldn't have gotten the out.

mihoba · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:46:05 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 23, 2007, 05:41:06 pm

Mo bunted that ball approximately 6 inches out in front of the plate. Laird made a good throw, but if he'd had to move more than two feet to get to the ball, he wouldn't have gotten the out.

The bunt could have been farther ideally, but Laird is really quick. Very few catchers will make that play, especially the force out.

T. J. · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:51:43 pm »

Fuckin' walks.

mihoba · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:53:55 pm »

Another big inning sinks the Astros.

Fredia · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2007, 05:58:14 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 23, 2007, 05:53:55 pm

Another big inning sinks the Astros.

astros look weak ass in the top of the 8th . continuing same in the top of the ninth
7-2
Biggio flew out so no hits to add to the count

mihoba · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2007, 06:00:14 pm »

Quote from: Fredia on June 23, 2007, 05:58:14 pm

astros look weak ass in the top of the 8th . continuing same in the top of the ninth
7-2
Biggio flew out so no hits to add to the count

Outscored 32-6 in the last three games against the Rangers, who just happen to have THE WORST RECORD IN THE AL.

Fuckin' pathetic.

austro · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2007, 06:00:37 pm »

This is one weak team. Off to the CWS.

Fredia · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2007, 06:01:16 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 23, 2007, 06:00:14 pm

Outscored 32-6 in the last three games against the Rangers, who just happen to have THE WORST RECORD IN THE AL.

Fuckin' pathetic.

boil it down to astros lose

mihoba · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2007, 06:08:15 pm »

Quote from: austro on June 23, 2007, 06:00:37 pm

This is one weak team. Off to the CWS.

I am constantly defending them, hoping they will catch fire, but even the optimist in me is not exactly seeing anything worth hoping for. Except for a few players, I'm beginning to dislike their style of play. I'll damn sure still root for them, but it's just not the same.

I have a sneaky feeling this is the end of an era. It was a damn good one while it lasted.

JimR · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2007, 06:12:24 pm »

Quote from: stubbyc on June 23, 2007, 05:34:46 pm

Those 1-0 leads are always so easy to protect in Arlington.

two outs
no one on
9 hole hitter up

single, single, double, single.

then
one out
no one on
walk, walk, walk

the ballpark had nothing to do with it.

he has not been good this year.

stubbyc · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2007, 09:04:21 pm »

Quote from: JimR on June 23, 2007, 06:12:24 pm

two outs
no one on
9 hole hitter up

single, single, double, single.

then
one out
no one on
walk, walk, walk

the ballpark had nothing to do with it.

he has not been good this year.

Fine, but scoring 2 runs against the Rangers and expecting it to hold up isn't a good idea.

But I agree re: Oswalt. He had nothing today and has no confidence in his curveball. Whenever he gets in trouble now he just throws hard in. It's getting really really predictable.

JimR · « **Reply #21 on:** June 24, 2007, 01:32:12 pm »

Quote from: stubbyc on June 23, 2007, 09:04:21 pm

Fine, but scoring 2 runs against the Rangers and expecting it to hold up isn't a good idea.

But I agree re: Oswalt. He had nothing today and has no confidence in his curveball. Whenever he gets in trouble now he just throws hard in. It's getting really really predictable.

BS. if the hitters get him two runs, his job is to give up 1 or less. he has not been able to hold leads game after game.

mihoba · « **Reply #22 on:** June 24, 2007, 03:22:26 pm »

Quote from: JimR on June 24, 2007, 01:32:12 pm

BS. if the hitters get him two runs, his job is to give up 1 or less. he has not been able to hold leads game after game.

And Roy chooses to take another shot at the offense. Not that it wasn't deserved...

"The biggest inning was the first inning," Oswalt said. "The guy walks two straight out of the chute, that's when you've got to put pressure on him. He got out of the inning and started falling into better sync after that. We didn't put a lot of pressure on him like we should have."

From pravata's NYCU. Of course, he goes on the critique his own performance, but why does he spout off so much this year?

stubbyc · « **Reply #23 on:** June 24, 2007, 03:46:54 pm »

Quote from: JimR on June 24, 2007, 01:32:12 pm

BS. if the hitters get him two runs, his job is to give up 1 or less. he has not been able to hold leads game after game.

Bullshit. If you're going to complain every time the pitcher gives up 2 runs then you might as well not watch. You don't like Oswalt because he complains too much, we get it.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 24, 2007, 04:11:58 pm »

Quote from: mihoba on June 24, 2007, 03:22:26 pm

but why does he spout off so much this year?

He did it last year too, about the offense and during the trade bs.

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #25 on:** June 24, 2007, 04:17:02 pm »

Quote from: stubbyc on June 24, 2007, 03:46:54 pm

Bullshit. If you're going to complain every time the pitcher gives up 2 runs then you might as well not watch. You don't like Oswalt because he complains too much, we get it.

He's not just any pitcher, you totaly missed the point.

JimR · « **Reply #26 on:** June 24, 2007, 04:44:22 pm »

Quote from: stubbyc on June 24, 2007, 03:46:54 pm

Bullshit. If you're going to complain every time the pitcher gives up 2 runs then you might as well not watch. You don't like Oswalt because he complains too much, we get it.

two outs
no one on
9th hitter up
single, single, double, single

if Miller had done that, you'd be screaming.

i like Roy fine, but he should shut up about the offense and pitch better. he gives up leads more often than not.

what else, stubby? gonna start stalking again, are you?

stubbyc · « **Reply #27 on:** June 24, 2007, 06:14:51 pm »

Quote from: MikeyBoy on June 24, 2007, 04:17:02 pm

He's not just any pitcher, you totaly missed the point.

What the hell are you talking about?

stubbyc · « **Reply #28 on:** June 24, 2007, 06:21:05 pm »

Quote from: JimR on June 24, 2007, 04:44:22 pm

two outs
no one on
9th hitter up
single, single, double, single

if Miller had done that, you'd be screaming.

i like Roy fine, but he should shut up about the offense and pitch better. he gives up leads more often than not.

what else, stubby? gonna start stalking again, are you?

Well you've got the facts wrong here too Jim.

There was 1 out and 1 runner on when the 9 hitter came up. He got the 9 hitter out.

Don't start this strawman bullshit. I haven't been bitching about Miller.

Any pitcher is going to give up 1-0 leads more often than not. Roy held the 1-0 lead all game against the Giants. The pen came in and Lamb threw a DP ball into RF. He held the 2-0 lead opening day all game until Nady homered off of Lidge in the 9th. He's held plenty of leads, but you can choose to ignore it. Apparently pitching a shutout through 7 while protecting a 1-0 lead is only par for the course.

You responded to me so please don't start this stalking bullshit.