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Scoring question
« on: June 19, 2007, 09:37:01 am »
Figgins was given a triple on his game-winning hit.  What is the rule in a walk-off situation?  I always assumed that once the winning run scores, the batter gets credit for the last base reached.  I can't imagine Figgins got to 3rd before Willits scored...
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 09:38:58 am »
Quote from: HurricaneDavid on June 19, 2007, 09:37:01 am
Figgins was given a triple on his game-winning hit.  What is the rule in a walk-off situation?  I always assumed that once the winning run scores, the batter gets credit for the last base reached.  I can't imagine Figgins got to 3rd before Willits scored...

That was a double: didn't even make it to the corner.  Calling it a triple is BS, even for a roadrunner like Figgins.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 10:13:12 am »
Quote from: Limey on June 19, 2007, 09:38:58 am
That was a double: didn't even make it to the corner.  Calling it a triple is BS, even for a roadrunner like Figgins.

Yeah that was some home cooking of the books.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 10:18:28 am »
Quote from: Limey on June 19, 2007, 09:38:58 am
Calling it a triple is BS, even for a roadrunner like Figgins.

So we've officialy reached #990 on the list of things to bitch about from last night's game?
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 10:20:25 am »
Quote from: MusicMan on June 19, 2007, 10:18:28 am
So we've officialy reached #990 on the list of things to bitch about from last night's game?

If I promise 10 more complaints, you think Noe will sign me for an extra season?
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 10:22:33 am »
Quote from: Alkie on June 19, 2007, 10:20:25 am
If I promise 10 more complaints, you think Noe will sign me for an extra season?

Yes, but you might be asked to perform some sort of extra duties.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 10:37:48 am »
The rule is, the batter is credited with as many bases as it takes to score the winning run.  However, the scorer can award the batter as many bases at he gets in "the normal course of play", even if the winning run scores before he reaches the next base.  So in other words, if there's a runner on 1B, and the batter hits a ball in the gap and the winning run scores from 1B, but the batter continues on to 3B and the ball is played just like it would be had it not been the winning run, the batter is awarded a triple, even if he didn't reach 3B before the winning run scores. 
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 10:40:47 am »
Interesting... thanks.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 11:48:54 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 19, 2007, 10:37:48 am
The rule is, the batter is credited with as many bases as it takes to score the winning run.  However, the scorer can award the batter as many bases at he gets in "the normal course of play", even if the winning run scores before he reaches the next base.  So in other words, if there's a runner on 1B, and the batter hits a ball in the gap and the winning run scores from 1B, but the batter continues on to 3B and the ball is played just like it would be had it not been the winning run, the batter is awarded a triple, even if he didn't reach 3B before the winning run scores. 

If that wasn't the winning run, Scott doesn't try to throw all the way home.  He throws to 2nd, where even Figgins has to hold up unless he's just taking the piss.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 12:12:56 pm »
Quote from: Limey on June 19, 2007, 11:48:54 am
If that wasn't the winning run, Scott doesn't try to throw all the way home.  He throws to 2nd, where even Figgins has to hold up unless he's just taking the piss.


I didn't see the play, but the winning run must have been on 1B (the batter cannot get credit for more bases than the winning runner advanced, so if the runner was on 2B, the batter cannot get credited with a triple, no way no how).  However, the batter is entitled to as many bases as the winning run advances (as long as he continues to all the bases); therefore, the batter is entitled to a 3-base hit if he runs it out all the way to 3B and touches the 3B bag during the course of the play.  Even if the run scores before he reaches 3B.  It doesn't matter what *would* have happened had that not been the winning run scoring.  As weird as it may sound, looks like the scorer got it right, with no shenanigans.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 02:17:35 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 19, 2007, 12:12:56 pm

I didn't see the play, but the winning run must have been on 1B (the batter cannot get credit for more bases than the winning runner advanced, so if the runner was on 2B, the batter cannot get credited with a triple, no way no how).  However, the batter is entitled to as many bases as the winning run advances (as long as he continues to all the bases); therefore, the batter is entitled to a 3-base hit if he runs it out all the way to 3B and touches the 3B bag during the course of the play.  Even if the run scores before he reaches 3B.  It doesn't matter what *would* have happened had that not been the winning run scoring.  As weird as it may sound, looks like the scorer got it right, with no shenanigans.

Runner was on 1st.  Don't know if Figgins went all the way around to 3rd, but I'm assuming that he did.  Maybe Figgins is a smart player and knows that you can pad your SLG if you just keep running in those situations.  Is it the same for all innings, or just the last?
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 02:21:04 pm »
Quote from: Limey on June 19, 2007, 02:17:35 pm
Runner was on 1st.  Don't know if Figgins went all the way around to 3rd, but I'm assuming that he did.  Maybe Figgins is a smart player and knows that you can pad your SLG if you just keep running in those situations.  Is it the same for all innings, or just the last?

He ran all the way into the thirdbase coach's outstretched arms. I assume he touched the base before the lovefest.
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Re: Scoring question
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 06:41:42 pm »
Quote from: Limey on June 19, 2007, 02:17:35 pm
Is it the same for all innings, or just the last?


Just on hits that end the game.  Oh, and I'm pretty sure *you* know this, but for anyone else who may not...if the game ending hit is a HR, the batter is entitled to all four bases, regardless of where the winning run started, provided he touches all the bases.  This last part is important (see Ventura, Robin and walk-off grand slam turned single).
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