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Col. Sphinx Drummond

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Ichiro
« on: March 21, 2019, 10:02:01 pm »
Now that his career is complete it's time for me to recognize what a fantastic career it was. 20 incredible facts about Ichiro's career..
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2019, 10:28:07 pm »
Do you guys get the Baseball Bits videos suggested to you by youtube? They are fun and he has good one on  Ichiro.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2019, 10:46:36 pm »
Quote from: Col. Sphinx Drummond on March 21, 2019, 10:02:01 pm
Now that his career is complete it's time for me to recognize what a fantastic career it was. 20 incredible facts about Ichiro's career..

His defensive highlights, especially the throws, are so fun to watch.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 10:52:00 pm »
Great player, HOF career, good article. But if I were picking nits...

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Ichiro was arguably the greatest leadoff hitter of his era, collecting 2,529 of his hits from the top spot, which ranked behind only Rickey Henderson (3,020) and Rose (2,924). However, compared to those two, Ichiro compiled a much higher batting average from the No. 1 hole, with a .323 clip, compared to Rose's .308 and Henderson's .280.

Ichiro had a career .367 OBP out of the top spot while Rose reached at a .379 clip and Rickey blew by both at .401.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2019, 11:02:51 pm »
Quote from: Nate Colbert on March 21, 2019, 10:52:00 pm
Great player, HOF career, good article. But if I were picking nits...

Ichiro had a career .367 OBP out of the top spot while Rose reached at a .379 clip and Rickey blew by both at .401.

"Of his era"?

I'd hope everyone know that Rickey takes a backseat to nobody.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 04:52:37 am »
Quote from: Lefty on March 21, 2019, 11:02:51 pm
"Of his era"?

I'd hope everyone know that Rickey takes a backseat to nobody.

Well, the article made the comparison. Nate just put it in perspective.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 08:30:36 am »
Quote from: Lefty on March 21, 2019, 11:02:51 pm
"Of his era"?

I'd hope everyone know that Rickey takes a backseat to nobody.

I don't think they're saying Ichiro and Henderson are from the same era, just comparing Ichiro to other great leadoff hitters.  And since we're comparing:

Ichiro: 291 2B, 79 3B, 1184 R, 98 HR, 633 RBI, 439 SB,
Henderson: 507 2B, 66 3B, 2244 R, 293 HR, 1100 RBI, 1384 SB

Ichiro was a great player, and a fine leadoff hitter.  But let's face it, he was no Rickey Henderson.  Not even in the same  league, career-wise, even. 
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2019, 09:33:09 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 22, 2019, 08:30:36 am
I don't think they're saying Ichiro and Henderson are from the same era, just comparing Ichiro to other great leadoff hitters.  And since we're comparing:

Ichiro: 291 2B, 79 3B, 1184 R, 98 HR, 633 RBI, 439 SB,
Henderson: 507 2B, 66 3B, 2244 R, 293 HR, 1100 RBI, 1384 SB

Ichiro was a great player, and a fine leadoff hitter.  But let's face it, he was no Rickey Henderson.  Not even in the same  league, career-wise, even.

Even if you add in Ichiro's Japanese stats it's not close:

Ichiro: 362 2B, 96 3B, 1420 R, 117 HR, 780 RBI, 509 SB
Henderson: 507 2B, 66 3B, 2244 R, 293 HR, 1100 RBI, 1384 SB

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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 10:27:32 am »
No one compares to Ricky. A better Suzuki comparison is Lou Brock. Or Rod Carew, or Tim Raines.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 12:13:32 pm »
Quote from: Col. Sphinx Drummond on March 22, 2019, 10:27:32 am
No one compares to Ricky. A better Suzuki comparison is Lou Brock. Or Rod Carew, or Tim Raines.

BR's top three similar batters:
Carew
Brock
Loftin

Henderson and Raines aren't on the list.  The only other player in the top 10 born after 1906 was Tony Gwynn at #6.
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Re: Ichiro
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2019, 11:02:23 am »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on March 22, 2019, 08:30:36 am

Ichiro was a great player, and a fine leadoff hitter.  But let's face it, he was no Rickey Henderson.  Not even in the same  league, career-wise, even. 

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