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Matt Albers-Welcome Back!!!
« on: December 16, 2013, 03:11:17 pm »
Rosenthal just tweeted that the Astros have agreed to a one-year $2,250,000 contract with Matt Albers that has a $3,000,000 club option for 2015, with a $200,000 buyout.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 03:16:23 pm »
More bullpen help is always welcome. Also, last time I checked, my father works with Matt Albers' father. Maybe I will get some inside scoops.

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 03:17:28 pm »
Good stuff. Does this affect their potential to sign Veras?

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 03:19:20 pm »
Good stuff. Does this affect their potential to sign Veras?

No. We're still in the hunt for Veras.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 03:26:22 pm »
Astros' bullpen is shaping up nicely. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 03:38:12 pm »
Astros' bullpen is shaping up nicely.  

It certainly seems pretty right to me.  As in not left.

I like the signing.  Not as big of a strike out guy as Veras but over the last 2 years he's done a good job of keeping people off the base paths and has a nice ERA to go with it.
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 05:40:29 pm »
It certainly seems pretty right to me.  As in not left.

I like the signing.  Not as big of a strike out guy as Veras but over the last 2 years he's done a good job of keeping people off the base paths and has a nice ERA to go with it.

Kevin Chapman did a solid job last season and should earn a spot. Other lefties on the 40-man: Luis Cruz (still too far away), Darin Downs, Keuchel, Oberholtzer, Rudy Owens, and Raul Valdes. My guess at this point:

Albers
Qualls
Fields
Lo
Chapman
Zeid
???? (Veras?)

Between AAA and MLB, Zeid was better against lefties than righties. There are no long relievers above (one of the guys passed on for the 5th starter, Keuchel?), but the pen looks like it could be a plus for the club next season, especially if they add Veras.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 07:05:03 pm »
Kevin Chapman did a solid job last season and should earn a spot. Other lefties on the 40-man: Luis Cruz (still too far away), Darin Downs, Keuchel, Oberholtzer, Rudy Owens, and Raul Valdes. My guess at this point:

Albers
Qualls
Fields
Lo
Chapman
Zeid
???? (Veras?)

Between AAA and MLB, Zeid was better against lefties than righties. There are no long relievers above (one of the guys passed on for the 5th starter, Keuchel?), but the pen looks like it could be a plus for the club next season, especially if they add Veras.

Interesting about Zeid, I didn't know he was better vs. lefties. Qualls has near-even splits for his career. So maybe they won't necessarily keep 2 lefties in the pen? I think Lo will get some time in OKC to start the year - he jumped straight from AA, after all, and his control was pretty wobbly. Chapman walked a ton, too, but I think that's just who he is. He seems to make it work for him. So my guess is:

Qualls
Albers
Fields
Zeid
Veras?
Chapman

...and the 7th spot being either Downs or Valdes or Owens if they want a 2nd lefty, with Bass and White (if he's recovered) having the inside track if they prefer a longman/swing type instead.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2013, 08:17:23 pm »
Interesting about Zeid, I didn't know he was better vs. lefties. Qualls has near-even splits for his career. So maybe they won't necessarily keep 2 lefties in the pen? I think Lo will get some time in OKC to start the year - he jumped straight from AA, after all, and his control was pretty wobbly. Chapman walked a ton, too, but I think that's just who he is. He seems to make it work for him. So my guess is:

Qualls
Albers
Fields
Zeid
Veras?
Chapman

...and the 7th spot being either Downs or Valdes or Owens if they want a 2nd lefty, with Bass and White (if he's recovered) having the inside track if they prefer a longman/swing type instead.

On second thought, there's no way Porter can get by without a long reliever. The rotation's too young, even adding Feldman doesn't give you a 200-inning pitcher. Porter is still going to have to rely on the bullpen to give him 3+ most nights and there will still be nights where we need one pitcher to eat that many innings alone.

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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2013, 08:35:54 pm »
Kevin Chapman did a solid job last season and should earn a spot. Other lefties on the 40-man: Luis Cruz (still too far away), Darin Downs, Keuchel, Oberholtzer, Rudy Owens, and Raul Valdes. My guess at this point:

Albers
Qualls
Fields
Lo
Chapman
Zeid
???? (Veras?)

Between AAA and MLB, Zeid was better against lefties than righties. There are no long relievers above (one of the guys passed on for the 5th starter, Keuchel?), but the pen looks like it could be a plus for the club next season, especially if they add Veras.


It doesn't look like a plus to me. Hopefully better than last year but maybe not even league average yet.

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2013, 10:21:16 pm »
Don't shit on our parade.  I see some major leaguers in this pen.  Mass improvement from last season.
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 06:40:53 am »
It doesn't look like a plus to me. Hopefully better than last year but maybe not even league average yet.

I'm thinking they really only need FIELDS! in the pen.  Let him pitch all the innings in relief.

By last season's end, Fields, Chapman and Zeid were doing ok, and maybe a little better.  If they can pick up where they left off, anything added is a plus over last year, which may or may not reach league average. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2013, 06:53:01 am »
 Currently, the bullpen looks much better than last year's group.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 07:28:25 am »
Don't shit on our parade.  I see some major leaguers in this pen.  Mass improvement from last season.

+1 That's his constant MO. I think that the bully is much improved over last year with the additions of Albers and Qualls. And if we get Veras, it'll be that much better.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2013, 07:32:38 am »
I think that's a good group (even better with Veras), but poor starting pitching and defense can cancel any improvement here.

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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2013, 08:28:31 am »
+1 That's his constant MO. I think that the bully is much improved over last year with the additions of Albers and Qualls. And if we get Veras, it'll be that much better.

Let me get this straight. I'm constantly negative?

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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2013, 08:31:18 am »
Let me get this straight. I'm constantly negative?

Not always, but often. You're not nearly as bad as Geezerdonk though.
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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2013, 08:38:42 am »
Not always, but often. You're not nearly as bad as Geezerdonk though.

Thanks for replying. I've also been accussed of being a sunshine-pumper which I think is the opposite end of the spectrum.

I just see too much youth and inexperience in this pen. Good arms and if they mature they may be league average and there is nothing wrong with that. And better than last year. I agree with the strategy though. It's time to find out what we have in Fields, Lo, Chapman, Zeid over a longer term.

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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2013, 08:45:30 am »
I'm thinking they really only need FIELDS! in the pen.  Let him pitch all the innings in relief.

By last season's end, Fields, Chapman and Zeid were doing ok, and maybe a little better.  If they can pick up where they left off, anything added is a plus over last year, which may or may not reach league average. 

Yep.  For the most part, Fields did a good job and I don't see his numbers not improving this season.  Between him and Q and A, that gives us three legitimate late-inning options, before throwing Veras in the picture.  That is much better than we had at any point last season.  There's a large gap between last year and even league-average, but I think there's a good chance we're already there with personnel.  Throw in Veras and we may be a little above.

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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2013, 08:51:16 am »
Thanks for replying. I've also been accussed of being a sunshine-pumper which I think is the opposite end of the spectrum.

I just see too much youth and inexperience in this pen. Good arms and if they mature they may be league average and there is nothing wrong with that. And better than last year. I agree with the strategy though. It's time to find out what we have in Fields, Lo, Chapman, Zeid over a longer term.


I don't disagree with you. We have some real good arms down there. Will they be good pitchers? We still don't know. I'll feel better about the bully if we sign Veras.
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2013, 08:56:16 am »
Let me get this straight. I'm constantly negative?

Not that I've noticed, but there's so much sunshine around the Astros how could anyone tell?
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2013, 09:18:32 am »
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2013, 09:39:11 am »
Rosenthal just tweeted that the Astros have agreed to a one-year $2,250,000 contract with Matt Albers that has a $3,000,000 club option for 2015, with a $200,000 buyout.

Jeez you people are falling into the same vortex of suck as the Astros.  Let me help you out:


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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2013, 09:41:29 am »
Last year the Astros were 18-36 in one run games and 4-8 in extra inning games.  A stronger bullpen could turn many of those into wins. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2013, 10:06:41 am »
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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2013, 10:41:00 am »
Yep.  For the most part, Fields did a good job and I don't see his numbers not improving this season.  Between him and Q and A, that gives us three legitimate late-inning options, before throwing Veras in the picture.  That is much better than we had at any point last season.  There's a large gap between last year and even league-average, but I think there's a good chance we're already there with personnel.  Throw in Veras and we may be a little above.

If Lo can get some confidence and better control he has the stuff to be another force coming in the late innings.

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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2013, 11:49:16 am »
If Lo can get some confidence and better control he has the stuff to be another force coming in the late innings.

And stay healthy.  Completely agree that he is another guy who could become a late-inning option, though.

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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2013, 05:14:11 pm »
I'm reading that the Cubs just signed Jose Veras. Shitfick.
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2013, 05:30:32 pm »
I'm reading that the Cubs just signed Jose Veras. Shitfick.
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2013, 09:00:45 pm »
First JD, now Veras. Dammit! This aggression will not stand, dude.

Cubs?  I vaguely remember a team called the Cubs.  I'm just glad it wasn't the fish-tossers.
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