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Homer Bailey through 7 innings on MLBN.
« on: July 02, 2013, 08:28:57 pm »
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Re: Homer Bailey through 7 innings on MLBN.
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 08:58:11 pm »
No-no sealed, awesome!  Bailey's 2nd no-hitter (has thrown the last 2 no-hitters in MLB).
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Re: Homer Bailey through 7 innings on MLBN.
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 09:06:26 pm »
Quote from: OregonStrosFan on July 02, 2013, 08:58:11 pm
No-no sealed, awesome!  Bailey's 2nd no-hitter (has thrown the last 2 no-hitters in MLB).

The last pitcher to throw MLB's back-to-back no-no's was Nolan Ryan in 74-75.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 09:09:39 pm »
That was awesome. Almost exclusively FBs  in the 9th.  Here it is, try and hit it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 08:35:59 am »
Quote from: jbm on July 02, 2013, 09:09:39 pm
That was awesome. Almost exclusively FBs  in the 9th.  Here it is, try and hit it.

He was still bringing the gas in the ninth inning. Bailey is an interesting pitcher because when he's on, he's fantastic, but when he's not, he is pretty bad. There doesn't seem to be any in-between or consistency from him.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 09:27:04 am »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 03, 2013, 08:35:59 am
He was still bringing the gas in the ninth inning. Bailey is an interesting pitcher because when he's on, he's fantastic, but when he's not, he is pretty bad. There doesn't seem to be any in-between or consistency from him.

He's 26, so he's still pretty young.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 09:51:21 am »
Wasn't Nolan Ryan like that?
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 09:53:16 am »
this week is the 50th anniversary of the famous duel at Candlestick between Marichal and Spahn that went several innings over regulation in which the Giants won 1-0 on a Mays homer. Both starters went the distance, both throwing over 200 pitches...Spahnny at the age of 42.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 03:43:32 pm »
Quote from: subnuclear on July 03, 2013, 09:51:21 am
Wasn't Nolan Ryan like that?

I think that Ryan was different. When Bailey is off, he gets hit. When Ryan was off as a young pitcher, he just walked a bunch of hitters.
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Re: Homer Bailey through 7 innings on MLBN.
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 03:50:37 pm »
Quote from: juliogotay on July 03, 2013, 09:53:16 am
this week is the 50th anniversary of the famous duel at Candlestick between Marichal and Spahn that went several innings over regulation in which the Giants won 1-0 on a Mays homer. Both starters went the distance, both throwing over 200 pitches...Spahnny at the age of 42.
I saw that yesterday on the HOF website. 16 innings. Incredible.
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Re: Homer Bailey through 7 innings on MLBN.
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 04:07:23 pm »
Quote from: juliogotay on July 03, 2013, 09:53:16 am
this week is the 50th anniversary of the famous duel at Candlestick between Marichal and Spahn that went several innings over regulation in which the Giants won 1-0 on a Mays homer. Both starters went the distance, both throwing over 200 pitches...Spahnny at the age of 42.

Warren Spahn had an incredible career. I saw Marichal pitch later in his career, but he was still pretty good that day.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 07:32:53 pm »
Marichal was pretty good with a bat too - especially when the target was John Roseboro's head.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 09:05:22 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 03, 2013, 04:07:23 pm
Warren Spahn had an incredible career. I saw Marichal pitch later in his career, but he was still pretty good that day.

Spahnny was incredible. Look at his career stats. Consider that he lost a couple of years to military service.  Seems like when folks talk about the great LHers he is always an afterthought. "And don't forget Warren Spahn". 
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 08:05:52 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on July 03, 2013, 09:05:22 pm
Spahnny was incredible. Look at his career stats. Consider that he lost a couple of years to military service.  Seems like when folks talk about the great LHers he is always an afterthought. "And don't forget Warren Spahn". 

Agreed. In my opinion, he's one of the top three portsiders.
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Re: Homer Bailey through 7 innings on MLBN.
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2013, 10:20:49 am »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on July 04, 2013, 08:05:52 am
Agreed. In my opinion, he's one of the top three portsiders.

Along with Lefty Grove, Sandy Koufax, and Randy Johnson?
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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2013, 10:26:44 am »
Quote from: NeilT on July 04, 2013, 10:20:49 am
Along with Lefty Grove, Sandy Koufax, and Randy Johnson?

I'd take Spahn over Randy Johnson, but it is close.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2013, 10:32:50 am »
Was Christy Mathewson a southpaw? Carlton and Whitey Ford were pretty good. Koufax was the best I ever saw but his career was relatively short.
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2013, 10:41:14 am »
In my opinion, there's Lefty Grove and Warren Spahn, then Koufax and Hubbell, then Johnson and Carlton.
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2013, 10:51:44 am »
Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on July 04, 2013, 10:41:14 am
In my opinion, there's Lefty Grove and Warren Spahn, then Koufax and Hubbell, then Johnson and Carlton.

I can't disagree with that ranking, although I saw live and marveled at Carlton during his amazing 1972 season for the hapless Phillies. He was as dominant that season as any pitcher who I have had the privilege of seeing pitch.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2013, 11:17:08 am »
Quote from: Sphinx Drummond on July 04, 2013, 10:41:14 am
In my opinion, there's Lefty Grove and Warren Spahn, then Koufax and Hubbell, then Johnson and Carlton.

That probably is a pretty good ranking.  It's such an elite group, but I suspect Grove goes into the top two or three pitchers, and Spahn's probably a bit down on that list.  Koufax you just have to throw up there because he was so dominant, even if it was for a short time.
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2013, 01:29:55 pm »
Quote from: NeilT on July 04, 2013, 11:17:08 am
That probably is a pretty good ranking.  It's such an elite group, but I suspect Grove goes into the top two or three pitchers, and Spahn's probably a bit down on that list.  Koufax you just have to throw up there because he was so dominant, even if it was for a short time.

Counselor, do you realize that you are moving down a ten time 20 game winner who would have won well over 400 games had he not missed three whole seasons at the beginning of his career due to WWII? Spahn still won 363 games pitching for some crappy teams, tossing 382complete games.
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2013, 02:00:38 pm »
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Counselor, do you realize that you are moving down a ten time 20 game winner who would have won well over 400 games had he not missed three whole seasons at the beginning of his career due to WWII? Spahn still won 363 games pitching for some crappy teams, tossing 382complete games.

Note that I said pitchers, not left-handed pitchers. 
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2013, 02:02:32 pm »
Quote from: NeilT on July 04, 2013, 02:00:38 pm
Note that I said pitchers, not left-handed pitchers. 

It all depends on what the word "pitchers" means... We were talking about portsiders.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2013, 02:08:32 pm »
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It all depends on what the word "pitchers" means... We were talking about portsiders.

Nope.  I was saying of all pitchers, left- and right-handed, Lefty Grove is probably in the top 3.  I don't think Spahn, great as he is, is.  Now don't ask me who the top three pitchers are.
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2013, 02:11:14 pm »
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Nope.  I was saying of all pitchers, left- and right-handed, Lefty Grove is probably in the top 3.  I don't think Spahn, great as he is, is.  Now don't ask me who the top three pitchers are.

I agree with that. Spahn probably is somewhere around 10-12, in my opinion.
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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2013, 04:25:11 pm »
Not that I know who the top three pitchers of all time are (or even the top three left-handers), but MLB Network had this interesting tidbit today: on this date in 1881, somebody-somebody pitched two complete games to sweep both ends of a double-header. I don't think that's going to happen again anytime soon.
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2013, 05:18:16 pm »
Quote from: austro on July 04, 2013, 04:25:11 pm
Not that I know who the top three pitchers of all time are (or even the top three left-handers), but MLB Network had this interesting tidbit today: on this date in 1881, somebody-somebody pitched two complete games to sweep both ends of a double-header. I don't think that's going to happen again anytime soon.

There just aren't that many double-headers anymore.
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« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2013, 05:22:12 pm »
Quote from: austro on July 04, 2013, 04:25:11 pm
Not that I know who the top three pitchers of all time are (or even the top three left-handers), but MLB Network had this interesting tidbit today: on this date in 1881, somebody-somebody pitched two complete games to sweep both ends of a double-header. I don't think that's going to happen again anytime soon.

Especially since Wilbur Wood retired years ago. I'm pretty sure that he was the last guy to pitch both ends of a twin bill.
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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2013, 05:39:46 pm »
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Especially since Wilbur Wood retired years ago. I'm pretty sure that he was the last guy to pitch both ends of a twin bill.

That's funny. I'm pretty sure that the last double-header I attended was at Comiskey in the late 70's, and Wood pitched one of the games.
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« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2013, 07:45:45 pm »
Quote from: austro on July 04, 2013, 04:25:11 pm
Not that I know who the top three pitchers of all time are (or even the top three left-handers), but MLB Network had this interesting tidbit today: on this date in 1881, somebody-somebody pitched two complete games to sweep both ends of a double-header. I don't think that's going to happen again anytime soon.
Was it Old Hoss Radbourn? '81 was his rookie year (remember "Oldhossomania"?!?), although he only pitched 325 innings that year, nowhere close to the 678 2/3 he hurled in 1884 (plus 22 more in the World Series). Supposedly he pitched 20 straight games that year.
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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2013, 05:00:59 pm »
Quote from: Reuben on July 04, 2013, 07:45:45 pm
Was it Old Hoss Radbourn? '81 was his rookie year (remember "Oldhossomania"?!?), although he only pitched 325 innings that year, nowhere close to the 678 2/3 he hurled in 1884 (plus 22 more in the World Series). Supposedly he pitched 20 straight games that year.

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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2013, 06:05:35 pm »
In 1968 I became obsessed with baseball. Bob Gibson was a bad motherfucker. He was the most dominating pitcher I ever saw first hand. 
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2013, 06:56:08 pm »
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In 1968 I became obsessed with baseball. Bob Gibson was a bad motherfucker. He was the most dominating pitcher I ever saw first hand. 

I saw Gibson toward the end of his career. He was still good but just not great. When the Old Man had that yellow hammer snapping, he was as good as I ever saw.
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« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2013, 07:41:48 am »
I love reading about Lefty Grove. He was one bad motherfucker.

In addition to being the ace of the Philly staff, he was often their top reliever, back in the pre-modern bullpen days. There wasn't a "save" stat back then, of course, but he made over 150 relief appearances (out of 600+ overall games pitched), finishing someone else's start in 123 of those bullpen stints. He sure as hell wasn't a situational Lefty; at least in the modern sense.

I became obsessed with baseball in '68 also. Became a big Tigers fan that year. With all the imposing, powerful guys setting pitching records that season, my favorite hurler was Mickey Lolich, who looked like he drove a donut truck, maybe.  Check out some of his innings pitched totals sometime; and he wasn't a soft-tosser, either, or throwing knuckleballs.
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2013, 07:49:55 am »
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I love reading about Lefty Grove. He was one bad motherfucker.

In addition to being the ace of the Philly staff, he was often their top reliever, back in the pre-modern bullpen days. There wasn't a "save" stat back then, of course, but he made over 150 relief appearances (out of 600+ overall games pitched), finishing someone else's start in 123 of those bullpen stints. He sure as hell wasn't a situational Lefty; at least in the modern sense.

I became obsessed with baseball in '68 also. Became a big Tigers fan that year. With all the imposing, powerful guys setting pitching records that season, my favorite hurler was Mickey Lolich, who looked like he drove a donut truck, maybe.  Check out some of his innings pitched totals sometime; and he wasn't a soft-tosser, either, or throwing knuckleballs.

Speaking of the 1968 Detroit Tigers, I was a bat boy in a game in which Denny McClain pitched in the Texas League back in the early 1970's during an attempted comeback. He looked awful and got shelled.
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2013, 12:39:17 pm »
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I love reading about Lefty Grove. He was one bad mother

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