Author Topic: Astros @ Royals June 9, 2013 (Read 12783 times)

Mr. Happy · « **on:** June 09, 2013, 12:31:43 pm »

Your lineups for today's matinee:

Astros

2BJose Altuve
DHJason Castro
CCarlos Corporan
1BCarlos Pena
RFJ.D. Martinez
LFChris Carter
CFTrevor Crowe
3BMatt Dominguez
SSRonny Cedeno
HOU: Lucas Harrell (4-7, 4.97)

Royals

LF Alex Gordon
1B Eric Hosmer
C Salvador Perez
DH Billy Butler
3B Mike Moustakas
CF David Lough
RF Jeff Francoeur
SS Elliot Johnson
2B Chris Getz
KC: Luis Mendoza (1-3, 4.76)

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 09, 2013, 12:52:18 pm »

Roster move: LHP Wade LeBlanc, who we acquired via the waiver wire from the Fish, is activated, and Peacock is optioned back to OkC.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #2 on:** June 09, 2013, 01:58:44 pm »

Quote from: Mr. Happy on June 09, 2013, 12:52:18 pm

Roster move: LHP Wade LeBlanc, who we acquired via the waiver wire from the Fish, is activated, and Peacock is optioned back to OkC.

I am completely uninspired by this move...

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #3 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:05:00 pm »

Astros start T3 with a 2B from Cedeno, but can't bring him home. Middle 3: HOU 0, KC 0

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #4 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:11:49 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 09, 2013, 01:58:44 pm

I am completely uninspired by this move...

Same here. Picking up the Fish's trash isn't my idea of helping the club. We need another soft-tossing portsider like we need a hole in the head.

Reuben · « **Reply #5 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:13:09 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 09, 2013, 01:58:44 pm

I am completely uninspired by this move...

Reading a basic description of the guy beforehand, I assumed it meant Blackley was on his way out. I guess you can never have too many LH long relievers with mediocre stuff...

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #6 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:17:53 pm »

Royal go down in order in B3, and the Astros match 'em in T4 (though a nice hustling effort by Pena to try to get on base). Middle 4: HOU 0, KC 0

Reuben · « **Reply #7 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:22:08 pm »

I would love it if the Astros could turn this into one of their scoring-lots-of-runs-and-looking-like-a-surprisingly-awesome-team games.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #8 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:24:58 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on June 09, 2013, 02:22:08 pm

I would love it if the Astros could turn this into one of their scoring-lots-of-runs-and-looking-like-a-surprisingly-awesome-team games.

I would as well, but would settle for them turning this into one of their scoring-just-enough-runs-and-winning-the-game games...

Royals go down in order in B4. End 4: HOU 0, KC 0

Reuben · « **Reply #9 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:38:38 pm »

Corporan is not gonna make anyone think of Willy T running down the first base line.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:38:45 pm »

Royals go down in order in B5, and the Astros match 'em again in T6. Middle 6: HOU 0, KC 0

Reuben · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:44:43 pm »

Nice to see the DP there after Cedeno let a playable ball go by for a hit by Perez.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:44:52 pm »

Salvador Perez breaks the streak of 25 straight batters sat down (13 from Harrel, 12 from Mendoza), but the 6-4-3 DP ends the inning. End 6: HOU 0, KC 0

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:45:27 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on June 09, 2013, 02:44:43 pm

Nice to see the DP there after Cedeno let a playable ball go by for a hit by Perez.

Yep, I thought he could've gotten to that one as well.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #14 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:46:22 pm »

It's hard to believe that there are offenses even worse than these, but there are.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:50:58 pm »

Pena leads off T7 with a single past the glove of Hosmer at 1B.

Misc. aside... Harrel at 87 pitches through 7: 28 in 1st, 23 in 2nd, 10 in 3rd, 9 in 4th, 7 in 5th, 10 in 6th.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:51:45 pm »

I look at this Astros team and I think of the movie Awakenings. I hope Robin Williams shows up with a trailer of L-dopa soon.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #17 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:51:56 pm »

Another misc. aside... I've gotta get me one of those orange jerseys. Love 'em!

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #18 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:52:41 pm »

JD Martinez pushes a single past 2B. Runners at 1B and 2B in T7, none out.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #19 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:52:46 pm »

Jesus Christ. Carter has 89 strikeouts already?

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #20 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:53:03 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 02:51:45 pm

I look at this Astros team and I think of the movie Awakenings. I hope Robin Williams shows up with a trailer of L-dopa soon.

Nice, nominated!

Ron Brand · « **Reply #21 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:53:54 pm »

When did people stop giving a damn about making contact? 89 Ks before June 15 is ridiculous.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #22 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:55:21 pm »

Carter with a lazy foul pop to 1B. HOU has runners on 1B and 2B with 1 out now in T7 and Crowe up at the dish.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #23 on:** June 09, 2013, 02:57:35 pm »

Crowe with a liner to SS. 2 outs now, with runners still at 1B and 2B in T7. Dominguez nails one, but at 3B who goes to 2B for the force. Middle 7: HOU 0, KC 0

Ron Brand · « **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:00:39 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 09, 2013, 02:53:03 pm

Nice, nominated!

You're too kind.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #25 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:04:30 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:00:39 pm

You're too kind.

The sun is shining in Portland, Oregon. Always puts me in a generous mood on the rare occasions that it happens...

[That said... actually... it has been as gorgeous a year here as I can remember seeing for a while!].

Royals go down in order in B7. End 7: HOU 0, KC 0

Ron Brand · « **Reply #26 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:07:29 pm »

Cedeno couldn't have hit that with a paddle.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #27 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:09:58 pm »

Looks like they are going to go to a RP for Harrel in B8. Doesn't make sense to me though. Harrel has sat down 17 of the last 18 batters he has faced, is under 100 pitches on the day, and hasn't had a 'high stress inning' since B2. Seriously, why bring a reliever in at this point (unless Harrel thinks he is gassed, which I doubt...).

Altuve singles in T8. 1 out, altuve on 1B.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #28 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:11:17 pm »

He hasn't lost any speed on his heater either. His last several innings have been low-pitch ones too.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #29 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:12:17 pm »

Hosmer fielded that one like he was being Tased.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #30 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:13:25 pm »

Way to drive a stake in that one, Corporan.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #31 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:14:00 pm »

Hosmer with a nice diving stop on a hard hit grounder by Castro, but couldn't get a handle on the ball and Astros have runners on 1B and 2B with 1 out and Corporan at the dish.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #32 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:15:09 pm »

Soft liner to SS (towards the 2B bag), Altuve doubled off at 2B. Middle 8: HOU 0, KC 0

Ron Brand · « **Reply #33 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:19:09 pm »

Briquets are in the chimney.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #34 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:20:43 pm »

Yep, cookout commences. Fucking hell.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #35 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:21:23 pm »

Brutal play by Crowe really hurts now.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #36 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:22:47 pm »

Fine work, Ambriz. Special thanks to Porter for this one too.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #37 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:23:13 pm »

Cue the Benny Hill music now... Royal scored after a hit, stolen base, single to CF, horrid throw by Crowe allows runner to get to 2B on the fielders choice and to 3B on the E8 (Ambriz owns part of this as well, as he was too busy feeling sorry for himself allowing the run to pay attention as he was backing up the catcher their). Now a little looper makes it 2-0 KC in B8 with 1 out.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #38 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:23:41 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:21:23 pm

Brutal play by Crowe really hurts now.

Amrbiz had his head up his ass on that one as well...

MikeyBoy · « **Reply #39 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:23:43 pm »

Well, fuck.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #40 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:24:10 pm »

Harrell's in the clubhouse pissing all over Ambriz' clothes.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #41 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:25:23 pm »

Hosmer goes first to third on a single to left. Carter is a real liability in left, and good for Hosmer to recognize that.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #42 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:25:39 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:22:47 pm

Fine work, Ambriz. Special thanks to Porter for this one too.

Yep, I'm giving Porter plenty of credit for this one as well. Short of Harrel telling Bo he was gassed (again, which I doubt), pulling Harrel was just plain silly...

And the hit parade continues... Another single puts runners on the corners with 1 out with 1 out in B8.

HudsonHawk · « **Reply #43 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:26:11 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:25:23 pm

Hosmer goes first to third on a single to left. Carter is a real liability in left, and good for Hosmer to recognize that.

Of course you're a liability when you half-ass. I hate the lollygagging shit. No excuse for it.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #44 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:27:24 pm »

Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 09, 2013, 03:26:11 pm

Of course you're a liability when you half-ass. I hate the lollygagging shit. No excuse for it.

Absolutely. He should've been jerked from the field for that one. Embarrassing.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #45 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:28:23 pm »

It's one thing to be miscast in left, but to just nonchalant plays is inexcusable.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #46 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:31:12 pm »

And why not walk Gordon in that situation, then bring in a reliever? Unless he didn't have anyone warming up, because Ambriz is such a shut-down guy.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #47 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:33:31 pm »

Ambriz pulled for Blackley, who come in and gets the DP to end B8. A tad too late though, as the damage had been done...

End 8: HOU 0, KC 2

Ron Brand · « **Reply #48 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:36:09 pm »

As nice as it felt to sweep a good team, it sure does bring it all into perspective to be swept by one that isn't very good.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #49 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:36:12 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:25:23 pm

Hosmer goes first to third on a single to left. Carter is a real liability in left, and good for Hosmer to recognize that.

It is one thing to lose 0-2. Its quite another to lose 0-2 with a bunch of horseshit efforts contributing to other teams 2 runs. Pisses me off...

Ron Brand · « **Reply #50 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:38:14 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 09, 2013, 03:36:12 pm

It is one thing to lose 0-2. Its quite another to lose 0-2 with a bunch of horseshit efforts contributing to other teams 2 runs. Pisses me off...

Infuckingfuriating. And it wasn't even the cause of the loss, just a symptom.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #51 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:38:40 pm »

Pena leads off T9 with a walk, JD coming to the dish.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #52 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:39:24 pm »

Come on, you lazy fuck. Go for 90.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #53 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:39:43 pm »

And JD grounds into the 'ole 5-4-3 DP... 2 outs, none on, T9.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #54 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:40:47 pm »

90 Ks. June 9.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #55 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:41:23 pm »

Singleton, we need you.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #56 on:** June 09, 2013, 03:41:38 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:40:47 pm

90 Ks. June 9.

And with that, its ballgame (and another loss). Astros swept on the 0-2 loss.

chuck · « **Reply #57 on:** June 09, 2013, 06:09:04 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:25:23 pm

Hosmer goes first to third on a single to left.

Wait, what? I haven't seen that since Biggio was playing out there.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #58 on:** June 09, 2013, 06:13:07 pm »

Quote from: OregonStrosFan on June 09, 2013, 03:25:39 pm

Yep, I'm giving Porter plenty of credit for this one as well. Short of Harrel telling Bo he was gassed (again, which I doubt), pulling Harrel was just plain silly...

And the hit parade continues... Another single puts runners on the corners with 1 out with 1 out in B8.

Putting Ambush in at that point with Harrell in cruise control was asinine. Way to over think, Porter.

Reuben · « **Reply #59 on:** June 09, 2013, 07:29:53 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 03:27:24 pm

Absolutely. He should've been jerked from the field for that one. Embarrassing.

Good arguments could be made that the pitcher, left fielder, shortstop, catcher and centerfielder all should have been jerked from the field in that inning. But that would've been awkward.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #60 on:** June 09, 2013, 10:51:18 pm »

What do you call a scolding from someone who has no standing to scold? A recap.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #61 on:** June 09, 2013, 10:56:05 pm »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 09, 2013, 10:51:18 pm

What do you call a scolding from someone who has no standing to scold? A recap.

This game frustrated the hell out of me... Good stuff RB.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #62 on:** June 10, 2013, 06:57:51 am »

You captured my sentiments on Porter. I'm having my doubts about him now. He's another incessant lineup tinkerer and makes statements to the effect of "this is our lineup" and that lasts about 5-7 games.

jbm · « **Reply #63 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:11:00 am »

IMO, it is hard to see a more glaring display of "I don't give a shit" than Ambriz "back up" at home. Carter tries to hold that distinction, but Ambriz is holding it at the moment.

I generally like Porter, but that coddling attitude, and the strained logic to support it is maddening.

BudGirl · « **Reply #64 on:** June 10, 2013, 08:19:15 am »

After reading the recap, I'd be super pissed if I was Jeff Luhnow. How can he showcase Harrell/Norris, etc. if Porter pulls them before they get a loss. Or how can he truly evaluate the player if they aren't give the opportunity for success?

JimR · « **Reply #65 on:** June 10, 2013, 09:11:05 am »

obviously I am going against the combined wisdom of the GZ denizens, but I understand what Porter did, why he did it, and do not disagree with it.

MusicMan · « **Reply #66 on:** June 10, 2013, 09:27:04 am »

Quote from: JimR on June 10, 2013, 09:11:05 am

obviously I am going against the combined wisdom of the GZ denizens, but I understand what Porter did, why he did it, and do not disagree with it.

I'm with you. Of course he's tinkering with the lineup. Making chicken shit into chicken salad is not an easy job, and requires experimentation.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #67 on:** June 10, 2013, 10:16:29 am »

Quote from: JimR on June 10, 2013, 09:11:05 am

obviously I am going against the combined wisdom of the GZ denizens, but I understand what Porter did, why he did it, and do not disagree with it.

I understand it when you're dealing with the rehabilitation of someone like Lyles, but Harrell isn't facing the same challenges. I don't think that approach is one-size-fits-all. And why pitch to Gordon, why not have a lefthander ready? He's shown he'll throw the whole bullpen at a game, what made him decide differently yesterday?

NeilT · « **Reply #68 on:** June 10, 2013, 10:26:32 am »

I didn't think anything about it particularly. He was going to take him out reasonably soon, it was a good time to do it, and Armbriz hasn't been so bad that he has to manage for an exploding bullpen. Of course actual results may vary.

NeilT · « **Reply #69 on:** June 10, 2013, 10:54:32 am »

It was a convincing recap though.

JimR · « **Reply #70 on:** June 10, 2013, 11:03:38 am »

Quote from: Ron Brand on June 10, 2013, 10:16:29 am

I understand it when you're dealing with the rehabilitation of someone like Lyles, but Harrell isn't facing the same challenges. I don't think that approach is one-size-fits-all. And why pitch to Gordon, why not have a lefthander ready? He's shown he'll throw the whole bullpen at a game, what made him decide differently yesterday?

young pitchers are not the only ones with confidence problems, and one size fits all is your judgment.

Ron Brand · « **Reply #71 on:** June 10, 2013, 11:15:04 am »

Quote from: JimR on June 10, 2013, 11:03:38 am

young pitchers are not the only ones with confidence problems, and one size fits all is your judgment.

And it appears that the issue of Harrell's confidence is a judgment of yours. Porter's done this with the broken and inexperienced pitchers and he's been successful - Lyles, Keuchel, Bedard - and since he was quoted yesterday that this was his motivation in taking Harrell out I feel pretty comfortable that he's applying it to the starters as a group. This doesn't address why he let Ambriz pitch to the lefthanders and didn't have a lefty ready to go, since he'd already prestidigitated that Harrell would give up a couple of hits in the next sixteen pitches.

Mr. Happy · « **Reply #72 on:** June 10, 2013, 03:50:43 pm »

Quote from: JimR on June 10, 2013, 09:11:05 am

obviously I am going against the combined wisdom of the GZ denizens, but I understand what Porter did, why he did it, and do not disagree with it.

You're not doing that. I also understand why Porter made the move. I just questioned it since Harrell was in cruise control and could have gone another frame.