Given his release, I think it's reasonable to expect he's not just getting hit with obstruction.
Picked up and handcuffed at home suggests the same. If it wasn't a serious charge, he'd be allowed to turn himself in.
Second degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder.
How is that different from first degree murder?
Probably some difference in intent/premeditation.
Wouldn't the conspiracy part be premeditation?
Didn't he kill one guy and shoot another guy in the face who survived (allegedly)? I haven't been following this story very closely. Too much other big happenings in the country the last three days.
Danny Rose: [asks about her ex-husband] What'd you do, you divorced him, or got a separation, or what?Tina Vitale: Nah, some guy shot him in the eyes.Danny Rose: Really? He's blind?Tina Vitale: Dead.Danny Rose: Dead. Of course, 'cause the bullets go right through.
Conspiracy can be after the fact, I think. I.e. the destruction of evidence and disposal of the body.
Celebrity discount.
I think that busting up a cell phone only temporarily helps one. I believe the call records can be subpoenaed. But the fact that he felt a need to destroy his phone and surveillance equipment is pretty damning. He ain't no good.
Great point from CSNNE analyst: Will Hernandez and his fiancee get married quickly so that she can't be compelled to testify against him?
.@ProFootballTalk if they do it points to motive that Hernandez was playing FMK w/ his gf, her sister,and Lloyd that nite,,what a competitor
ESPN reports it's first degree murder, which means possible life without parole, if convicted.
... during which time he makes sure to text the names of those he's with because he thinks he's about to die ...
My thought is that an electronic transmission is evidence, not testimony.
If it's good enough for the NSA, it ought to be good enough for the courts.
Apparently there's some question as to whether it will meet the "dying words" hearsay exemption, but I'm no lawyer. My thought is that an electronic transmission is evidence, not testimony.
OK, because I didn't quite understand how driving a guy out to an industrial park, during which time he makes sure to text the names of those he's with because he thinks he's about to die, and then putting 3 in his back and 2 in his head, was not premeditated.
Hernandez now being investigated for 2012 double murder.
holy shit. is all of this gang related?
Hernandez dropped from 1st to 4th round because of "character issues", including reported gang connections.The murder victim was dating the sister of Aaron's fiancee. It's not hard to surmise that the victim did something to his girlfriend that Hernandez deemed worthy of execution.
If the case is close to what has been reported, his only hope is an incompetent jury.
So, the OJ parallels continue.
OJ jury wasn't incompetent, just uniformed. The Casey Anthony jury was incompetent.
That's fair. The OJ prosecutors and judge were incompetent.
The murder victim was dating the sister of Aaron's fiancee. It's not hard to surmise that the victim did something to his girlfriend that Hernandez deemed worthy of execution.
Boston Globe saying my speculation may be off base:The officials said investigators now believe that Odin Lloyd, the man Hernandez is charged with killing in a North Attleboro industrial park June 17, may have had information about Hernandez’s role in the double slaying.“The motive might have been that the victim knew [Hernandez] might have been involved,” one of the officials said.
The Bleacherap timeline says that Hernandez was complaining that he couldn't trust anyone any more.
I imagine that eventually sets in after you kill someone. Or somethree.
Hernandez had a "secret" apartment, at which he seems to have stashed the clothes he was wearing on the night of the murder. Oh, and it also contained a shit-ton of ammo. Cops think the clothes will help them put him at the scene.
