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By the numbers
« on: June 17, 2012, 08:16:59 pm »
What does the number 1-7 tell you about a relief pitcher at the 66 game mark?
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 08:21:18 pm »
1-7 = -6.  66th game. Put another way, -666.   Tells me he is the evil one I read about in Revelations...  Quick, someone know where I could get my hands on the seven daggers of Megiddo?!?
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 08:25:08 pm »
Tells me he's in too many close situations and failing in them, unless you can blame his fielders consistently.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 08:27:50 pm »
Quote from: Ron Brand on June 17, 2012, 08:25:08 pm
Tells me he's in too many close situations and failing in them, unless you can blame his fielders consistently.

Hard to field a base on balls.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 08:29:49 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 17, 2012, 08:27:50 pm
Hard to field a base on balls.

A cursory look at his stats and they're almost identical to last year's, when he was successful. More digging is required.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 08:34:16 pm »
Quote from: Ron Brand on June 17, 2012, 08:29:49 pm
A cursory look at his stats and they're almost identical to last year's, when he was successful. More digging is required.

If he was 1-7 at this point last year, he wasn't successful
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 08:40:30 pm »
Pretty interesting, actually. his stats are basically identical but his HR rate and flyball rate is higher. He's actually reduced his walk rate and his batting average against is down. It seems more likely that he's normalizing, and last year's stats were a little generous as to expected ERA, maybe from the home runs. I haven't looked at situational pitching.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 08:41:17 pm »
Quote from: HudsonHawk on June 17, 2012, 08:34:16 pm
If he was 1-7 at this point last year, he wasn't successful

2-3, 3.96 ERA.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 08:47:23 pm »
What it says to me is we're in a world of hurt while Lopez is on the DL, because FeRod is the best we've got.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 09:03:54 pm »
Looking at the situational stuff, he gets whacked around pretty good when the game is tied, both last year and this year. It's all real small sample sizes, but he's essentially the same pitcher as last year except for the home runs. Even the batting average on balls in play is down this year. I think he's not so much a scapegoat as a guy not suited to the role - like Happ says, he's not the guy in a high-leverage situation, especially one that calls for ground ball outs.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 09:18:25 pm »
Quote from: Ron Brand on June 17, 2012, 09:03:54 pm
Looking at the situational stuff, he gets whacked around pretty good when the game is tied, both last year and this year. It's all real small sample sizes, but he's essentially the same pitcher as last year except for the home runs. Even the batting average on balls in play is down this year. I think he's not so much a scapegoat as a guy not suited to the role - like Happ says, he's not the guy in a high-leverage situation, especially one that calls for ground ball outs.

He's a sixth inning guy, not an eighth inning guy.
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Re: By the numbers
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 11:57:53 pm »
That svelte 6.23 ERA, 15 walks (in 26 innings) and four home runs allowed isn't enamoring me. On the other hand, it does take some skill to rack up seven losses in only 26 innings of work, so he's got that going for him.
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