Author Topic: Brad Arnsberg named as pitching coach (Read 4531 times)

OregonStrosFan · « **on:** October 30, 2009, 05:05:47 pm »

Per McTaggart tweet.

Bio from Blue Jays site.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:18:12 pm »

And rounding out the coaches for '10, the Astros have re-signed Geoff Blum. (McTaggart via Twitter).

Astros sign IF Geoff Blum to a one-year, $1.5-million contract for the 2010 season, with a mutual option for 2011 worth $1.65 million.

I'm Richies Dad · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:34:35 pm »

Very nice signing on Arnsberg.

ferret · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2009, 04:20:35 pm »

"I tell guys you want to be like a bandit: Get in, do your job, get out and don't give anybody a reason to remember you or what your number is, or point fingers at you."
Astros pitching coach Brad Arnsberg
http://www.goldpanners.com/Scrapbook/a/arnsberg-brad_83.html

strosrays · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2009, 06:28:17 pm »

Quote from: ferret on October 31, 2009, 04:20:35 pm

"I tell guys you want to be like a bandit: Get in, do your job, get out and don't give anybody a reason to remember you or what your number is, or point fingers at you."
Astros pitching coach Brad Arnsberg
http://www.goldpanners.com/Scrapbook/a/arnsberg-brad_83.html

I see Dennis Cook was on that team, too.

Always liked him, I wouldn't mind him as a coach. . . but I guess he wasn't available.

I don't know if they'll be any good, but I expect the Swede's will be mean, will have nasty sliders, and will wear filthy caps.

OldBlevins · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2009, 11:58:06 pm »

Quote from: I'm Richies Dad on October 30, 2009, 05:34:35 pm

Very nice signing on Arnsberg.

Apparently he and Cito Gaston couldn't stand each other. www.thestar.com/sports/baseball

BUWebguy · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2009, 05:07:17 pm »

Quote from: OldBlevins on October 31, 2009, 11:58:06 pm

Apparently he and Cito Gaston couldn't stand each other. www.thestar.com/sports/baseball

Do you have a link to the specific article?

Reuben · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2009, 09:18:18 pm »

Quote from: BUWebguy on November 01, 2009, 05:07:17 pm

Do you have a link to the specific article?

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The fact the Jays would allow Halladay's best friend in the clubhouse, pitching coach Brad Arnsberg, to seek the same job with another team solidifies the belief the Jays plan to trade their ace.

...The fact is, when Gaston was asked Saturday about his personal relationship with Arnsberg, he skated around it as gracefully as Tie Domi on Battle of the Blades.

"He was always sitting talking with Halladay," Gaston said. "Arnie was a hard worker, but I didn't have as much (of a relationship) with Brad as the other (Jays) pitching coaches (I've worked with)."

Link
and also:

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(discussing the Jays' coaching changes in the wake of clubhouse dissent at the end of the year)The biggest move is that Arnsberg left to become the Houston Astros' pitching coach. He is an excellent instructor, but it would have been impossible for Gaston and Arnsberg to co-exist for another year.

The two were at the heart of the clubhouse disconnect with the pitchers. Arnsberg treats his pitchers like family. Whenever one was slighted in role reduction or public criticism, Arnsberg sided with the player. That became so huge an issue that by the end of the year the pitching staff had become its own entity.

Walton and Arnsberg had worked closely together, so when Anthopoulos spoke to his players seeking input, the only acceptable replacement for Arnsberg became Walton. The bullpen was part of the discontent. The bullpen is part of the solution.

Link

Savage · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2009, 09:23:38 pm »

Quote from: Reuben on November 01, 2009, 09:18:18 pm

Link(I assume this is the story referred to above)

I think it might be this one: http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/mlb/bluejays/article/719106--jays-get-much-needed-shakeup

Reuben · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2009, 09:32:54 pm »

Quote from: Savage on November 01, 2009, 09:23:38 pm

I think it might be this one: http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/mlb/bluejays/article/719106--jays-get-much-needed-shakeup

you're right, just saw it.

Interesting to hear that Arnsberg and Halladay are close; I remember when AJ Burnett originally signed with the Jays much was made of his fondness for Arnsberg from their Marlins days. (not that I expect either to follow him to Houston).

OldBlevins · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2009, 09:35:41 pm »

Quote from: Savage on November 01, 2009, 09:23:38 pm

I think it might be this one: http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/mlb/bluejays/article/719106--jays-get-much-needed-shakeup

It was; thanks.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #11 on:** November 02, 2009, 07:35:18 am »

The interesting part, to me, is that Arnsberg is known to defend his pitchers. Public criticism of players was a daily event last year. Whether it was position players or pitchers. So far, Mills has said the right things (i.e. The name on the front is more important than the name on the back - I wouldn't mind seeing the Astros drop last names on the back of jerseys) and Arnsberg seems to have actual leadership qualities (you don't throw your players under the bus).

Of course, the local sports-hacks will infer an intention, from the Astros hiring of Arnsberg, to go after Halladay in free agency or trade. Who knows, maybe Toronto needs a good DH.

Arky Vaughan · « **Reply #12 on:** November 03, 2009, 07:49:50 am »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on November 02, 2009, 07:35:18 am

I wouldn't mind seeing the Astros drop last names on the back of jerseys.

Why?

I think the Yankees still refusing to put names on the back of their jerseys is one of the most arrogant things they do.

VirtualBob · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2009, 04:15:23 pm »

Quote from: Arky Vaughan on November 03, 2009, 07:49:50 am

Why?

I think the Yankees still refusing to put names on the back of their jerseys is one of the most arrogant things they do.

It sure has helped them get rid of the prima donna image, though. We hardly ever hear of any of them by name ... a real team-first outfit!

ETA: Gagghhhh I couldn't even swallow that one myself.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2009, 05:42:17 pm »

I don't like it because the Yankee's do it. I like the principle of the statement. The team is more important than the individual player. That's all. Nothing more.

OregonStrosFan · « **Reply #15 on:** November 03, 2009, 05:50:32 pm »

"The name on front [of the jersey] is more important than the name on back." -Brad Mills

Arky Vaughan · « **Reply #16 on:** November 04, 2009, 07:51:22 am »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on November 03, 2009, 05:42:17 pm

I don't like it because the Yankee's do it. I like the principle of the statement. The team is more important than the individual player. That's all. Nothing more.

I never took putting names on the back of jerseys as a statement that the individual player is more important than the team. I took it as a way for the average fan to know who the players are without memorizing the numbers or reading a scorecard.

S.P. Rodriguez · « **Reply #17 on:** November 04, 2009, 09:16:17 am »

Quote from: Arky Vaughan on November 04, 2009, 07:51:22 am

I never took putting names on the back of jerseys as a statement that the individual player is more important than the team. I took it as a way for the average fan to know who the players are without memorizing the numbers or reading a scorecard.

Who cares what their name is? I don't.

GreatBagwellsBeard · « **Reply #18 on:** November 04, 2009, 10:01:44 am »

Quote from: S.P. Rodriguez on November 04, 2009, 09:16:17 am

Who cares what their name is? I don't.

People, people: let's all just agree that no matter what their names are, they're all cocksuckers.

juliogotay · « **Reply #19 on:** November 04, 2009, 04:30:14 pm »

Maybe it sells more scorecards.

Reuben · « **Reply #20 on:** November 04, 2009, 09:06:32 pm »

Can't tell the players without a scorecard.

Author Topic: Brad Arnsberg named as pitching coach (Read 4531 times)

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