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Selig Thinking about Meddling
« on: February 12, 2009, 03:49:01 pm »
He's pondering a suspension of A-Roid and the reinstatement of Aaron as home run king.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 03:55:59 pm »
He's pondering a suspension of A-Roid and the reinstatement of Aaron as home run king.

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This ad hoc approach just is just maddening.  They need to just declare baseball amnesty for past steroid use and just worry about preventing and enforcing the current rules.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 03:58:01 pm »
This ad hoc approach just is just maddening.  They need to just declare baseball amnesty for past steroid use and just worry about preventing and enforcing the current rules.

Right.  Especially as Tejada might be the next stop on Selig's quest for popularity.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 04:02:50 pm »
He's pondering a suspension of A-Roid and the reinstatement of Aaron as home run king.

Be afraid.  Be very afraid.

MLBPA lawyers have better things to do than give Bud a wedgie and stuff him in his locker.

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 04:09:40 pm »
He's pondering a suspension of A-Roid and the reinstatement of Aaron as home run king.

Be afraid.  Be very afraid.

I don't think he has much of a leg to stand on WRT suspending A-Rod.  And as for yanking records because of performance-enhancing drugs... their use ballooned under his blissfully (willfully?) ignorant reign and his pompous proclamation about their "eradication" from the sport is laughable.  Sorry Bud, but all of MLB has to wear the steroid scarlet letter, yourself included.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 04:32:21 pm »
I find it interesting he takes this stance the day after this is written about him:


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The history major in Selig knows this: Lyndon Johnson should be remembered as perhaps the greatest domestic legislative president in history. But he is known for one word -- Vietnam.

Bud Selig has taken the game from the Armageddon of a 232-day players strike to its most financially profitable period in history. But if he doesn't move fast, he will be known for one word -- steroids.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 05:47:04 pm »
I find it interesting he takes this stance the day after this is written about him:

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The history major in Selig knows this: Lyndon Johnson should be remembered as perhaps the greatest domestic legislative president in history. But he is known for one word -- Vietnam.

Bud Selig has taken the game from the Armageddon of a 232-day players strike to its most financially profitable period in history. But if he doesn't move fast, he will be known for one word -- steroids.

Oh brother.... I'm gonna need some hip waiters before this goes much further.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 05:49:55 pm »

Jason Whitlock puts his two cents in.

He can't help but bring up Barry again; but I applaud any slight of Peter Gammons.


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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 07:25:22 pm »
you know how in drug stores and magazine stands they have two sections. one out front and one behind the counter with paper on it? well maybe they should do baseball stats the same way.. those clean and sober (oh wait cant include sober would null and void all the cards records) ok those clean have one nice shiny book with the records in it ,... and a not so shiny less glorious book with lots of *** and the explanation that greed and the need to succeed in a way that was not conducive to baseball caused these to be tainted
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 07:28:33 pm »
Scott Van Pelt hammered Selig on his radio show last week and it supposedly got him a timeout from ESPN execs.

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 10:14:12 pm »
Scott Van Pelt hammered Selig on his radio show last week and it supposedly got him a timeout from ESPN execs.

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http://deadspin.com/5148743/espn-is-giving-scott-van-pelt-some-quiet-time
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 11:28:02 pm »
Scott Van Pelt hammered Selig on his radio show last week and it supposedly got him a timeout from ESPN execs.

Van Pelt took on the media journalist and their attitude about internet bloggers today.  He didn't allow the internet bloggers to dismiss the concerns of journalist, but at the same time he took a hard stand that it is really tiresome and boring to hear media journalist call bloggers "losers who type on their keyboards while in their underwear in their mother's basement".  He admitted being a fan of some bloggers that he reads quite often, one particular guy in Washington who called himself "Mr. Irrelevant" and who now works as the lead blogger for The Sporting News.  It was actually scary to hear Van Pelt actually get it right that the internet has given rise to the voice of the fan in a huge way.  A way that the media once thought they provided for fans but never realized to the levels that the internet sites now do... in a great way too.

The irony is that ESPN is often the target for fan sites who think the monolithic entity has pretty much made itself useless with what it provides for fans nowadays.  "We're not that bad... are we?" - Scott Van Pelt today.  I have a feeling Van Pelt is actually trying to do what is common in blogger world/internet fan sites nowadays (the good stuff) and call it like he sees it without regard to politically correct b.s. or the bed fellow relationships with the sports leagues.  Hence the timeout.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 08:11:34 am »
I wouldn't mind seeing Aaron get the record back.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 08:36:50 am »
Van Pelt took on the media journalist and their attitude about internet bloggers today.  He didn't allow the internet bloggers to dismiss the concerns of journalist, but at the same time he took a hard stand that it is really tiresome and boring to hear media journalist call bloggers "losers who type on their keyboards while in their underwear in their mother's basement". 

My mother doesn't have a basement.

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 11:02:38 am »
My mother doesn't have a basement.

It's just another example of the media bias in favor the of the north east. Those yankees have no idea that we don't have basements in Texas.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 11:15:19 am »
Van Pelt took on the media journalist and their attitude about internet bloggers today.  He didn't allow the internet bloggers to dismiss the concerns of journalist, but at the same time he took a hard stand that it is really tiresome and boring to hear media journalist call bloggers "losers who type on their keyboards while in their underwear in their mother's basement mobile home". 

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2009, 12:00:19 pm »
Van Pelt took on the media journalist and their attitude about internet bloggers today.  He didn't allow the internet bloggers to dismiss the concerns of journalist, but at the same time he took a hard stand that it is really tiresome and boring to hear media journalist call bloggers "losers who type on their keyboards while in their underwear in their mother's basement".  He admitted being a fan of some bloggers that he reads quite often, one particular guy in Washington who called himself "Mr. Irrelevant" and who now works as the lead blogger for The Sporting News.  It was actually scary to hear Van Pelt actually get it right that the internet has given rise to the voice of the fan in a huge way.  A way that the media once thought they provided for fans but never realized to the levels that the internet sites now do... in a great way too.

The irony is that ESPN is often the target for fan sites who think the monolithic entity has pretty much made itself useless with what it provides for fans nowadays.  "We're not that bad... are we?" - Scott Van Pelt today.  I have a feeling Van Pelt is actually trying to do what is common in blogger world/internet fan sites nowadays (the good stuff) and call it like he sees it without regard to politically correct b.s. or the bed fellow relationships with the sports leagues.  Hence the timeout.

I don't know if I quite agree, he goes off on an irrelevant taunt about Selig's utter lack of style and presence compared to Goodell and Stern.  I think it veers pretty close into personal insult territory.  He really hit the nail on the head with the part about Selig benefiting greatly from steroid use, and being complicit in it up until very recently.  Still, I'm not surprised Van Pelt got in trouble, he was nastier than he needed to be in this instance.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2009, 01:50:24 pm »
I don't know if I quite agree, he goes off on an irrelevant taunt about Selig's utter lack of style and presence compared to Goodell and Stern.  I think it veers pretty close into personal insult territory.  He really hit the nail on the head with the part about Selig benefiting greatly from steroid use, and being complicit in it up until very recently.  Still, I'm not surprised Van Pelt got in trouble, he was nastier than he needed to be in this instance.

Agreed. I don't care much for Bud Selig, but I don't think his personal appearance is in any way relevant. Also, Van Pelt's insinuation that Selig would better justify his salary if he had more charisma doesn't make much sense.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2009, 03:10:22 pm »
Agreed. I don't care much for Bud Selig, but I don't think his personal appearance is in any way relevant. Also, Van Pelt's insinuation that Selig would better justify his salary if he had more charisma doesn't make much sense.

All true.  I wasn't making an observation about the particulars of Van Pelt's rant, just that it strayed into the world usually reserved for... well, sites like ours (where Selig's appearance has play).  Why?  Because for one, he's not taking the high road and thumbing his nose at what the typical fan is now looking to as source information and opinion.  It would be a mistake for the media to become bloggers and vice versa, that is not the point.  The point is that Van Pelt seems to be touching a toe to the water of "information source for the fans" given the rise of the blogger world in prominence in the eyes of the great unwashed, again what the media once fancied itself to be the representative of.  For the corporate world, this is a nebulous area that has application across all business.  In that, what was the business norm was that the internet had no play in making strategic business decisions.  Now, companies are flocking to solutions found on the internet for strategic business marketing and growth.  Where a "facebook" had little to no play in business just a few short years ago, now companies are starting to encourage such solutions for *business* sake.

My observation of Van Pelt and what he said yesterday is that the convergence from all sides in the business world is heating up and is going to change business works in just a few short years.  Will it change how fans are treated to source information?  Just like cable gave rise to the great changeover of sports coverage and information, the internet is starting to change that landscape as well.  Van Pelt's bosses at ESPN know that right now, they have a business deal to protect (billions of dollars is nothing to sneeze at), but soon enough the same bosses will encourage the internet-like presentation of the same people they give timeouts to.  Why?  Because in any paradigm shift, the worse thing to do is to be the Swiss watch maker thumb your nose at the emerging market of digital watches coming from the East as just a "fad".  Soon enough, you're playing catch-up to what you called a "fad".  The irony of the Swiss watch makers is that the digital watch was the invention of one of their own who got laughed at when he presented the idea for market value.  He had to go to the East to get someone to listen.

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2009, 03:36:19 pm »
All true.  I wasn't making an observation about the particulars of Van Pelt's rant, just that it strayed into the world usually reserved for... well, sites like ours (where Selig's appearance has play).  Why?  Because ...

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2009, 03:47:27 pm »
Selig is a wiggy twat.

Maybe, but he definitely has a twatty wig.

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2009, 09:45:43 pm »
well said.. now let me get out my funk and wagner to see what it means
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