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« on: May 30, 2007, 10:09:28 am »
I'm wondering if the Astros couldn't trade for A-Rod now if they wanted.

His picture on the cover of the NY Post with another woman might be the final straw convincing A-Rod to leave NY.

The Yankees need bullpen help.  They are having problems bridging the cap between their starters and Mariano.

Ensberg and Lidge for A-Rod.  Ensberg might fit into that Scott Brosius "role player" type at third that the Yankees seem to have been missing for a couple seasons and may help in the Yankee clubhouse by getting rid of the distraction.  And maybe a change of scenery will help Ensberg.  Lidge has been looking much better and he also provides a alternative for next season if the Yankees decide not to sign Mariano.

If the Astros really wanted to liven up their offense, they could probably move A-Rod back to ss and play Lamb at third. 

This is clearly a move for this season for the Astros (as A-Rod is surely going to opt out of his contract), but the team wouldn't be giving up any "future" as I don't think that either Ensberg or Lidge are going to be with the Astros next season (although it would make sense for the Yankees to resign both).  A-Rod isn't the perfect solution, but I think that he desperately needs to get out of NY and that playing in a low pressure (one-newspaper) city like Houston could do him a world of good.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2007, 10:11:45 am »
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 10:12:12 am »
His picture on the cover of the NY Post with another woman might be the final straw convincing A-Rod to leave NY.

And would be a definite minus is the Drayton McLane book.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2007, 10:13:27 am »
I'm wondering if the Astros couldn't trade for A-Rod now if they wanted.

His picture on the cover of the NY Post with another woman might be the final straw convincing A-Rod to leave NY.

The Yankees need bullpen help.  They are having problems bridging the cap between their starters and Mariano.

Ensberg and Lidge for A-Rod.  Ensberg might fit into that Scott Brosius "role player" type at third that the Yankees seem to have been missing for a couple seasons and may help in the Yankee clubhouse by getting rid of the distraction.  And maybe a change of scenery will help Ensberg.  Lidge has been looking much better and he also provides a alternative for next season if the Yankees decide not to sign Mariano.

If the Astros really wanted to liven up their offense, they could probably move A-Rod back to ss and play Lamb at third. 

This is clearly a move for this season for the Astros (as A-Rod is surely going to opt out of his contract), but the team wouldn't be giving up any "future" as I don't think that either Ensberg or Lidge are going to be with the Astros next season (although it would make sense for the Yankees to resign both).  A-Rod isn't the perfect solution, but I think that he desperately needs to get out of NY and that playing in a low pressure (one-newspaper) city like Houston could do him a world of good.

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 10:13:51 am »
And would be a definite minus is the Drayton McLane book.

But, would that minus outweigh the plus?  I don't think so.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 10:14:23 am »
no thanks. every team he joins gets worse, and the team he leaves gets better.

The Rangers got better?
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2007, 10:17:14 am »
The Rangers got better?

2003 w/ A-Rod: 71-91, 25GB
2004 w/o A-Rod: 89-73, 4GB

Yeah, I would call that better.

That being said, I don't think that was because of A-Rod.  Their infield and young pitching really came into its own, IIRC.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 10:18:02 am »
The Rangers got better?

They went from 71 wins in ARod's last season to 89 his first season in NYC.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 10:19:50 am »
I'd take A-Rod on the Astros.  I think he would be an immense improvement over Ensberg.

Plus, by the reasoning here, if he left after this season, the team would improve.
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 10:22:30 am »
I'd take A-Rod on the Astros.  I think he would be an immense improvement over Ensberg.

Plus, by the reasoning here, if he left after this season, the team would improve.

He also has a Mercedes dealership here (could be like having a ranch huh?).  Still say if he is a rental...pass.

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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 10:25:08 am »
I'd take A-Rod on the Astros.  I think he would be an immense improvement over Ensberg.

Plus, by the reasoning here, if he left after this season, the team would improve.

The problem for the Rangers and A-Rod was because they spent so much money on A-Rod that they couldn't afford the pitching they needed.  With A-Rod being a one year rental for the Astros, this problem wouldn't exist.

While I generally agree that this team needs to rebuild, this division is so winable it hurts.  The Astros with A-Rod could win this division.  
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 10:32:26 am »
The problem for the Rangers and A-Rod was because they spent so much money on A-Rod that they couldn't afford the pitching they needed.  With A-Rod being a one year rental for the Astros, this problem wouldn't exist.

While I generally agree that this team needs to rebuild, this division is so winable it hurts.  The Astros with A-Rod could win this division.  

I have and have had an issue of playing only for this year.  The stros have done this for at least the past 4 years.  If adding a player that can help you now and in the future is what Purp chooses to do, then great.  The farm system can not afford many more R. Johnsons, C. Beltran, possible J. Jennings or hell for that matter A. Huffs. (no more 1 yr rentals please).

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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 11:08:21 am »
Of course A-Rod would fix our 3B problems.  One would wonder if he'd want to move back to SS though.  But like everyone is saying, at some point you wonder about him because teams seem to get better when he leaves.  Obviously, several factors are involved, as was the case in Texas when it was a young team.

But... I don't see why the Yanks would make an Ensberg/Lidge for A-Rod trade for the life of me.
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 11:16:41 am »
This is Drayton's team.  It ain't happening.

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 11:53:59 am »
no thanks. every team he joins gets worse, and the team he leaves gets better.

maybe we SHOULD rent A-Rod then. we stink for the season then BAM! back in contention when he leaves ;D

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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2007, 12:16:12 pm »
maybe we SHOULD rent A-Rod then. we stink for the season then BAM! back in contention when he leaves ;D

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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2007, 12:17:42 pm »
Now this is the kind of radical thinking this team needs!

Perhaps the Astros should also sign Chuck Nevitt.  He has a few championship rings.

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2007, 12:19:31 pm »
Perhaps the Astros should also sign Chuck Nevitt.  He has a few championship rings.
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2007, 12:20:15 pm »
What about Big shot Bob, he could probably help.

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2007, 12:24:13 pm »
I want more defensive whizzes who can't hit.  They're the kind of players you build a team around.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2007, 12:28:33 pm »
I want more defensive whizzes who can't hit.  They're the kind of players you build a team around.

Listen up clark, Adam is not the problem with the stros.

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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2007, 12:34:06 pm »
Listen up clark, Adam is not the problem with the stros.

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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2007, 12:35:28 pm »
I think it's possible to joke about Everett's hitting without calling for him him to be traded.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2007, 12:36:34 pm »
I think it's possible to joke about Everett's hitting without calling for him him to be traded.

But aren’t you inferring with your joke that he is a problem?

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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2007, 12:36:48 pm »
I think it's possible to joke about Everett's hitting without calling for him him to be traded.

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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2007, 12:37:15 pm »
But aren’t you inferring with your joke that he is a problem?

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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2007, 12:44:15 pm »
He's contributes to the problem, but that doesn't make him "the" problem.
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2007, 12:45:04 pm »
But aren’t you inferring with your joke that he is a problem?

implying, not inferring

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2007, 12:47:47 pm »
implying, not inferring

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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2007, 12:51:15 pm »
And BTW coach I am protesting that point.  Please see #4

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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2007, 12:52:27 pm »
Perhaps the Astros should also sign Chuck Nevitt.  He has a few championship rings.

Chucky doesn't take on 2-0.  Chucky hacks.
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2007, 12:53:31 pm »
Chucky doesn't take on 2-0.  Chucky hacks.

Isn't that Chucky Brown that was called Chucky?

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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2007, 12:55:04 pm »
Isn't that Chucky Brown that was called Chucky?

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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2007, 12:55:58 pm »
"Chuckie be hackin'"=Chuckie Carr

Forgot about him.  Thanks for the image.

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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2007, 12:56:36 pm »
And BTW coach I am protesting that point.  Please see #4

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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2007, 12:56:43 pm »
Forgot about him.  Thanks for the image.

I am not convinced that a 7'5", porn-stached klutz would not be an upgrade over Lane.
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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2007, 12:58:03 pm »
try that on any English teacher in the USA.

No need, I already done with my schooling.

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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2007, 12:59:22 pm »
I'm confused. I thought the "defensive whiz who can't hit" comment was directed at Horry. Are we considering Rob for RF or SS? Is he a free agent after this season? I've read that we don't need another rental.
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2007, 01:00:04 pm »
I'm confused. I thought the "defensive whiz who can't hit" comment was directed at Horry. Are we considering Rob for RF or SS? Is he a free agent after this season? I've read that we don't need another rental.

Rob is going to back up Nevitt in RF.  At least they can go over the wall when Woody is pitching.
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« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2007, 01:00:33 pm »
Perhaps the Astros should also sign Chuck Nevitt.  He has a few championship rings.

Why not try Robert Horry for the same reason?
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« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2007, 01:00:51 pm »
Rob is going to back up Nevitt in RF.  At least they can go over the wall when Woody is pitching.

Horry is a WINNER! Look at all those rings!
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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2007, 01:01:43 pm »
Horry is a WINNER! Look at all those rings!

Now who's reading my mind?
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« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2007, 01:02:31 pm »
Now who's reading my mind?

I was channeling Bill Walton.

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« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2007, 01:02:53 pm »
Why not try Robert Horry for the same reason?

That is why I mentioned him about half a page up.

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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2007, 01:05:11 pm »
That is why I mentioned him about half a page up.

Don't really watch the NBA.  Is the the "big shot Bob" you were referring to?
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« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2007, 01:24:38 pm »
T-Mac has the speed to play the outfield, and the athleticism to go up and get fly balls at the track.  If that commercial where he is chucking sheep is any indication.. he seems like a multisport superstar.
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« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2007, 01:49:49 pm »
T-Mac has the speed to play the outfield, and the athleticism to go up and get fly balls at the track.  If that commercial where he is chucking sheep is any indication.. he seems like a multisport superstar.

He has no rings though and is not a winner, so he's out.  Reminds me of the days a Clark ran in here and said the problem was that Drayton McLane never signs Franchise players.  Still to this day I have no idea what that meant.  Brilliant in it's own way actually.  Absolutely brilliant.

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« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2007, 02:05:54 pm »
He has no rings though and is not a winner, so he's out.  Reminds me of the days a Clark ran in here and said the problem was that Drayton McLane never signs Franchise players.  Still to this day I have no idea what that meant.  Brilliant in it's own way actually.  Absolutely brilliant.

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« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2007, 02:13:23 pm »
Don't really watch the NBA.  Is the the "big shot Bob" you were referring to?

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« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2007, 03:44:34 pm »
try that on any English teacher in the USA.
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« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2007, 03:51:55 pm »
So that really works?  I've still been using the "you come here often" and "it's not a bald spot, it's the solar panel for a sex machine".  When those don't work I go with "You might as well sleep with me because I'm going to tell everybody we did it anyway".  You'd be suprised how often that works (assuming you were inferring to female English teachers)

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« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2007, 05:24:31 pm »
I am not convinced that a 7'5", porn-stached klutz would not be an upgrade over Lane.

Height wise, and porn-stache wise, it would be a considerable upgrade.  Attempting to hit himself with a bat wise, no.

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« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2007, 05:27:37 pm »
Height wise, and porn-stache wise, it would be a considerable upgrade.  Attempting to hit himself with a bat wise, no.

I was trying to explain to someone what Lane looked like at the plate last night. The best I could come up with is one of the AL pitchers that hadn't hit their entire career and were forced to for the first time since college or high school in an interleague game.
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« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2007, 08:43:49 pm »
Horry is a WINNER! Look at all those rings!
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« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2007, 08:46:54 pm »
T-Mac has the speed to play the outfield, and the athleticism to go up and get fly balls at the track.  If that commercial where he is chucking sheep is any indication.. he seems like a multisport superstar.
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« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2007, 07:27:10 am »
I saw T-Mac at Epcot in Disney World in Fla. a couple of weeks back. He seemed pretty happy as the Epcot employees whisked him past us in line so he could get on all rides without a wait.

Oh to be a sports star.

I received a similar treatment there, it's called a Fast Pass.
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« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2007, 08:42:57 am »
I was trying to explain to someone what Lane looked like at the plate last night. The best I could come up with is one of the AL pitchers that hadn't hit their entire career and were forced to for the first time since college or high school in an interleague game.

Last year, IIRC, the most perfect description of Lane's swing was dropped here in the TZ.  Can't remember who posted it, but the description is that it looks like he's trying to hit himself with the bat.
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« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2007, 08:48:20 am »
Last year, IIRC, the most perfect description of Lane's swing was dropped here in the TZ.  Can't remember who posted it, but the description is that it looks like he's trying to hit himself with the bat.

I recall that also, and I'll bet homer will find it, he is the TZ search jackass guru.
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« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2007, 09:16:20 am »
Speaking of A-Rod, did y'all catch the stink he raised in Toronto last night? He was on second base, the batter hit a high pop-up on the shortstop side of the third baseman, as A-Rod passed the third baseman who was patiently waiting for the pop, he yelled "Mine!" causing the third baseman to stop tracking the ball, which fell harmlessly to the ground. John Gibbons cries "bush league" and "not the Yankee way!"

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/article.jsp?content=20070530_225301_5484

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« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2007, 09:24:34 am »
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« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2007, 09:29:16 am »
Speaking of A-Rod, did y'all catch the stink he raised in Toronto last night? He was on second base, the batter hit a high pop-up on the shortstop side of the third baseman, as A-Rod passed the third baseman who was patiently waiting for the pop, he yelled "Mine!" causing the third baseman to stop tracking the ball, which fell harmlessly to the ground. John Gibbons cries "bush league" and "not the Yankee way!"

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/article.jsp?content=20070530_225301_5484

(Great headline on that one, by the way.)

Nick Peoples, a UT OF, did that two weeks ago, and the umpire called an out for interference. if the umpires heard what AR said and did not call an out, they are gutless.
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« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2007, 09:30:12 am »
Speaking of A-Rod, did y'all catch the stink he raised in Toronto last night? He was on second base, the batter hit a high pop-up on the shortstop side of the third baseman, as A-Rod passed the third baseman who was patiently waiting for the pop, he yelled "Mine!" causing the third baseman to stop tracking the ball, which fell harmlessly to the ground. John Gibbons cries "bush league" and "not the Yankee way!"

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/article.jsp?content=20070530_225301_5484

(Great headline on that one, by the way.)

He said he yelled "hah, not "mine."
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« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2007, 09:31:24 am »
He said he yelled "hah, not "mine."

and you believe that?
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« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2007, 09:38:06 am »
He said he yelled "hah, not "mine."

He also said he had already rounded the bag when he did it, which replays show to be entirely untrue.
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« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2007, 09:39:26 am »
Nick Peoples, a UT OF, did that two weeks ago, and the umpire called an out for interference. if the umpires heard what AR said and did not call an out, they are gutless.

I thought it sounded like a bullshit play by Rodriguez (that'd be bullshit in denial league, let alone MLB), but didn't realize it should be an out.  Would it be because of rule 7.08(b)?

Any runner is out when --  He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball.

Guess that could be considered "hindering".


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« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2007, 09:41:15 am »
and you believe that?
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« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2007, 09:44:47 am »
In the replay I saw, which zoomed in on his face, it looked like he did say "hah."

Regardless, the first thing I thought was how A-Rod has said in the past how much he looks up to Cal Ripken... imagine Cal doing something like that... it would never happen.  What a tool.

I have to believe his other quote about heckling is TOTAL bullshit:

Rodriguez said he's often heckled by opposing players.  "That play happens to me three or four times a week, except it's not at third base, it's over in foul territory by the dugout," Rodriguez said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270530114

One of my friends went through ump pro school and says they were taught that general yelling isn't interference, but "Mine" or "I got it" to deceive the fielder is.
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« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2007, 09:48:00 am »
In the replay I saw, which zoomed in on his face, it looked like he did say "hah."

Regardless, the first thing I thought was how A-Rod has said in the past how much he looks up to Cal Ripken... imagine Cal doing something like that... it would never happen.  What a tool.

I have to believe his other quote about heckling is TOTAL bullshit:

Rodriguez said he's often heckled by opposing players.  "That play happens to me three or four times a week, except it's not at third base, it's over in foul territory by the dugout," Rodriguez said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270530114

One of my friends went through ump pro school and says they were taught that general yelling isn't interference, but "Mine" or "I got it" to deceive the fielder is.

You can tell the difference between "hah!" and "mine!" by reading lips? I just saw him open his mouth.

Also, A-Rod's little justification fails to account for the fact that when he's fielding pop-ups over by the third base dugout, there's generally not someone behind him that might be calling for the ball.
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« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2007, 09:48:26 am »
In the replay I saw, which zoomed in on his face, it looked like he did say "hah."

Regardless, the first thing I thought was how A-Rod has said in the past how much he looks up to Cal Ripken... imagine Cal doing something like that... it would never happen.  What a tool.

I have to believe his other quote about heckling is TOTAL bullshit:

Rodriguez said he's often heckled by opposing players.  "That play happens to me three or four times a week, except it's not at third base, it's over in foul territory by the dugout," Rodriguez said.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270530114

One of my friends went through ump pro school and says they were taught that general yelling isn't interference, but "Mine" or "I got it" to deceive the fielder is.

a player will not give way on "hah."
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« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2007, 09:57:56 am »
Regardless of what the hell he yelled, its still bush league.  That's some shit a 15 year old would pull in little league... maybe.
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« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2007, 10:00:33 am »
Regardless of what the hell he yelled, its still bush league.  That's some shit a 15 year old would pull in little league... maybe.

What's next?  He'll run over and slap the ball out of his hands?!!!!!

Eh?  Oh.
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« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2007, 10:06:33 am »
What's next?  He'll run over and slap the ball out of his hands?!!!!!

Eh?  Oh.

Maybe he'll elbow him in the groin.

Oh. Right. Been there.
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« Reply #72 on: May 31, 2007, 10:11:49 am »
Maybe he'll elbow him in the groin.

Oh. Right. Been there.

Mark was camped under a popup in the State Tournament and the guy who hit it forearmed him in the chest as he ran by. i could not believe it.
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« Reply #73 on: May 31, 2007, 10:17:20 am »
Mark was camped under a popup in the State Tournament and the guy who hit it forearmed him in the chest as he ran by. i could not believe it.

How long did the runner have to eat through a straw after that?
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« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2007, 10:19:08 am »
How long did the runner have to eat through a straw after that?

Mark was a svelte 200 in those days, and the guy more or less bounced off of him. he caught the popup about the same time that the ump signalled out for interference.
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« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2007, 10:32:15 am »
Mark was camped under a popup in the State Tournament and the guy who hit it forearmed him in the chest as he ran by. i could not believe it.

Any coach I played for would have yanked me out of that game so fast I would've been wearing a neck collar, while sitting on the bench, for weeks.
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« Reply #76 on: May 31, 2007, 10:36:50 am »
Mark was camped under a popup in the State Tournament and the guy who hit it forearmed him in the chest as he ran by. i could not believe it.

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« Reply #77 on: May 31, 2007, 10:50:54 am »
[Missing YouTube clip of that college dick trying to win an Oscar while faking a HBP, striking out on the next pitch, waving his bat at the Ump and then getting tossed.]

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« Reply #78 on: May 31, 2007, 11:45:36 am »
How long did the runner have to eat through a straw after that?

I wheeled around after I caught the ball to let him know what I thought, and the first base umpire was standing about 3 feet from me signalling out.

We were already in the process of getting thrashed, and I would've had my fill if the ump hadn't been in my way.

And being listed at 200 in HS was a geneerous listing. I was 190ish at best.
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« Reply #79 on: May 31, 2007, 11:47:25 am »
And being listed at 200 in HS was a generous listing. I was 190ish at best.

I wonder what could've brought on the bulking up post-HS...?
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« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2007, 11:50:39 am »
I wonder what could've brought on the bulking up post-HS...?

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« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2007, 02:54:58 pm »
Regardless of what the hell he yelled, its still bush league.  That's some shit a 15 year old would pull in little league... maybe.

Or grown men in slow pitch softball, but I digress...

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« Reply #82 on: June 01, 2007, 09:26:11 am »
Regardless of what the hell he yelled, its still bush league.  That's some shit a 15 year old would pull in little league... maybe.

Honest question from someone who only played in non-competitive YMCA leagues growing up: What's the difference between what ARod did and a shortstop who decoys a runner attempting to steal second into sliding when the ball is really a double into the gap? Both are intended to decoy the other team without physically interfering.
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« Reply #83 on: June 01, 2007, 10:00:12 am »
He said he yelled "hah, not "mine."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9hYZA_s_E8M

Great close-up.  No fucking way that's "hah."

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« Reply #84 on: June 01, 2007, 10:11:28 am »
Honest question from someone who only played in non-competitive YMCA leagues growing up: What's the difference between what ARod did and a shortstop who decoys a runner attempting to steal second into sliding when the ball is really a double into the gap? Both are intended to decoy the other team without physically interfering.

Excellent question to which you'll never get a satisfactory answer (unfortunately).  Many will have opinions as to the bush leaguery of one and the keen competitive edge of the other and it will again leave you unsatisfied that you've had your question undeniably, without doubt, fully answered.  So do you want to know our opinions (which cannot be debated per se, after all, it is only our views) or do you want the truth?

The truth: No difference and if there is, it's a gnat's hair worth.

My opinion: You still never do what A-Rod did while it's is entirely okay to decoy a runner.  Why?  Well Jimmy D took this sort of approach last night to explain the subtle difference between the act of deception accepted by ball players and the ones that fall into the A-Rod no-no category.  "You can defend against one, you cannot against the other".  So Jimmy D's example was this: If a runner is stealing signs from second, you really don't have a problem with it because you can defend against it... meaning you can do something about it.  Change the signs, the deception by the runner has been twarted.  You cannot do anything to defend yourself against what A-Rod did so that is crossing the line and thus unsportsmanlike and very bush league behavior."  Subtle I'm sure, but very much to the point if anyone wants to argue the finer details of good deception and bad deception nuances.

Can you defend against a decoy by the second baseman or shortstop?  Yes, if you run with your head up and pick up the ball, you'll not fall for said deception, so you can indeed defend yourself against such trickery.  If you're going to catch a foul ball or pop up, you concentrate on the ball and nothing else.  That is why you have some scary incidents in baseball when the ball is a tweener and two guys are rushing to catch it (see: Freel, Ryan).  Unless you're about to run into a wall and must look to find the wall for a nano-second, you really don't have time to descern if a base runner is coming towards you and is going to yell "Mine" or "I got it!".  You cannot defend against that and if it makes you look foolish, it is a big taboo.  You listen for the other teammate so you don't injure yourself going all out to catch a ball in most instances.  You listen, not look for the other guy.  You are defenseless if the runner interferes with your mechanism to insure safety and that is bush league to the highest.

You deserve to be dotted the next time up to bat and that will be the punishment for A-Rod beyond the public opinion once again being against the multi-million dollar kid.
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« Reply #85 on: June 01, 2007, 10:15:47 am »
Excellent question to which you'll never get a satisfactory answer (unfortunately).  Many will have opinions as to the bush leaguery of one and the keen competitive edge of the other and it will again leave you unsatisfied that you've had your question undeniably, without doubt, fully answered.  So do you want to know our opinions (which cannot be debated per se, after all, it is only our views) or do you want the truth?

The truth: No difference and if there is, it's a gnat's hair worth.

My opinion: You still never do what A-Rod did while it's is entirely okay to decoy a runner.  Why?  Well Jimmy D took this sort of approach last night to explain the subtle difference between the act of deception accepted by ball players and the ones that fall into the A-Rod no-no category.  "You can defend against one, you cannot against the other".  So Jimmy D's example was this: If a runner is stealing signs from second, you really don't have a problem with it because you can defend against it... meaning you can do something about it.  Change the signs, the deception by the runner has been twarted.  You cannot do anything to defend yourself against what A-Rod did so that is crossing the line and thus unsportsmanlike and very bush league behavior."  Subtle I'm sure, but very much to the point if anyone wants to argue the finer details of good deception and bad deception nuances.

Can you defend against a decoy by the second baseman or shortstop?  Yes, if you run with your head up and pick up the ball, you'll not fall for said deception, so you can indeed defend yourself against such trickery.  If you're going to catch a foul ball, you concentrate on the ball and nothing else.  Unless you're about to run into a wall and must look to find the wall for a nano-second, you really don't have time to descern if a runner is coming towards you and is going to yell "Mine" or "I got it!".  You cannot defend against that and if it makes you look foolish, it is a big taboo.

You deserve to be dotted the next time up to bat and that will be the punishment for A-Rod beyond the public opinion once again being against the multi-million dollar kid.

Very good explanation, Noe.
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« Reply #86 on: June 01, 2007, 10:18:23 am »
...A-Rod beyond the public opinion once again being against the multi-million dollar kid.

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« Reply #87 on: June 01, 2007, 10:21:34 am »
Very good explanation, Noe.

I ammended it a little because I wasn't satisfied I said everything I wanted to say.  Thanks any way.

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« Reply #89 on: June 01, 2007, 10:45:02 am »
You deserve to be dotted the next time up to bat and that will be the punishment for A-Rod beyond the public opinion once again being against the multi-million dollar kid.

Anyone know if this happened?  Was there a later at-bat for meting out punishment?
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« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2007, 10:47:26 am »
Anyone know if this happened?  Was there a later at-bat for meting out punishment?

No, it will have to wait until they meet again in mid-July.

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« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2007, 11:19:42 am »
Another interesting sidelight...

When ARod gets plunked (or at least thrown at) for his bush play does the Yankmee pitcher retaliate for the threat to one of their stars?...
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« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2007, 11:28:18 am »
Another interesting sidelight...

When ARod gets plunked (or at least thrown at) for his bush play does the Yankmee pitcher retaliate for the threat to one of their stars?...


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« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2007, 11:30:08 am »
These Yankees never retaliate.

Plus would they retaliate if none of them could stand said "star"?

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« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2007, 11:31:28 am »
These Yankees never retaliate.

When A-Rod got into a shouting match with the Blue Jay's shortstop and then the manager of the Jays, not a single solitary Yankee got up to the steps of the dugout to rush the field if necessary to help their... ahem... teammate.  When interviewed later, many of them took the "no comment" route as to the opinion of whether that should be something A-Rod should or should not have done.

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« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2007, 11:32:33 am »
When A-Rod got into a shouting match with the Blue Jay's shortstop and then the manager of the Jays, not a single solitary Yankee got up to the steps of the dugout to rush the field if necessary to help their... ahem... teammate.  When interviewed later, many of them took the "no comment" route as to the opinion of whether that should be something A-Rod should or should not have done.

That it's A-Rod only compounds the issue. But a feature of the Torre-lead team the last ten years or so is that they do not retaliate, regardless of the circumstances.
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« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2007, 11:42:22 am »
These Yankees never retaliate.

Technically, the Yankees cannot retaliate for something they started.  It has to be a different word, like "retrotaliate" or something, when you push back on someone for pushing back on you being a bush league dickhead.
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« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2007, 11:45:03 am »
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« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2007, 04:45:38 pm »
Thanks Noe. Should've known Jimmy D would have a good explanation; thanks for relaying it.
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« Reply #99 on: June 01, 2007, 06:04:31 pm »
Excellent question to which you'll never get a satisfactory answer (unfortunately).  Many will have opinions as to the bush leaguery of one and the keen competitive edge of the other and it will again leave you unsatisfied that you've had your question undeniably, without doubt, fully answered.  So do you want to know our opinions (which cannot be debated per se, after all, it is only our views) or do you want the truth?

The truth: No difference and if there is, it's a gnat's hair worth.

My opinion: You still never do what A-Rod did while it's is entirely okay to decoy a runner.  Why?  Well Jimmy D took this sort of approach last night to explain the subtle difference between the act of deception accepted by ball players and the ones that fall into the A-Rod no-no category.  "You can defend against one, you cannot against the other".  So Jimmy D's example was this: If a runner is stealing signs from second, you really don't have a problem with it because you can defend against it... meaning you can do something about it.  Change the signs, the deception by the runner has been twarted.  You cannot do anything to defend yourself against what A-Rod did so that is crossing the line and thus unsportsmanlike and very bush league behavior."  Subtle I'm sure, but very much to the point if anyone wants to argue the finer details of good deception and bad deception nuances.

Can you defend against a decoy by the second baseman or shortstop?  Yes, if you run with your head up and pick up the ball, you'll not fall for said deception, so you can indeed defend yourself against such trickery.  If you're going to catch a foul ball or pop up, you concentrate on the ball and nothing else.  That is why you have some scary incidents in baseball when the ball is a tweener and two guys are rushing to catch it (see: Freek, Ryan).  Unless you're about to run into a wall and must look to find the wall for a nano-second, you really don't have time to descern if a base runner is coming towards you and is going to yell "Mine" or "I got it!".  You cannot defend against that and if it makes you look foolish, it is a big taboo.  You listen for the other teammate so you don't injury yourself going all out to catch a ball in most instances.  You listen, not look for the other guy.  You are defenseless if the runner interferes with your mechanism to insure safety and that is bush league to the highest.

You deserve to be dotted the next time up to bat and that will be the punishment for A-Rod beyond the public opinion once again being against the multi-million dollar kid.
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« Reply #100 on: August 07, 2007, 07:46:24 pm »
Anyone know if this happened?  Was there a later at-bat for meting out punishment?

A-Rod got plunked by Josh Towers in the third tonight. Benches cleared. Haven't seen a replay yet.
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« Reply #101 on: August 07, 2007, 08:27:18 pm »
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« Reply #102 on: August 07, 2007, 11:09:59 pm »
surprised to see where dq retaliated and got thrown out in the seventh after hitting toronto's alex rios in the back.
the home plate umpire that threw both he and torre out of the game?
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« Reply #103 on: August 08, 2007, 12:57:55 am »
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« Reply #104 on: August 08, 2007, 09:28:34 am »
If only he would always use his powers for good.

After the postgame, Racket said, "I just had to discuss something with Angel.  You know I always respect the men in blue."  That left me scratching my head a little when I thought how he stood out on the mound during that playoff game calling the ump every name in the book.
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« Reply #105 on: August 08, 2007, 11:29:22 am »
surprised to see where dq retaliated and got thrown out in the seventh after hitting toronto's alex rios in the back.
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I was surprised that the benches emptied and that there was retaliation. Everyone in the world knew this was coming next time the teams played each other.

I guess he also got plunked monday night though (no fireworks) so the thought is that was payback and this is just overkill.

It gets hard to keep up with the unwritten rules of who needs to get drilled and when. Probably just as soon not see anyone get hit.  That was a "professional" way to handle an intentional plunk though- below the waist.


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« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2007, 11:40:27 am »
I was surprised that the benches emptied and that there was retaliation. Everyone in the world knew this was coming next time the teams played each other.

I guess he also got plunked monday night though (no fireworks) so the thought is that was payback and this is just overkill.

It gets hard to keep up with the unwritten rules of who needs to get drilled and when. Probably just as soon not see anyone get hit.  That was a "professional" way to handle an intentional plunk though- below the waist.



i was being sarcastic when i said i was surprised to see clemens do that in the 7th...i don't sense the same sarcasm in your post.
are you talking about a-rod getting hit earlier in that game?  because getting hit in the back isn't exactly above below the waist.
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« Reply #107 on: August 08, 2007, 11:42:07 am »
i was being sarcastic when i said i was surprised to see clemens do that in the 7th...i don't sense the same sarcasm in your post.
are you talking about a-rod getting hit earlier in that game?  because getting hit in the back isn't exactly above the waist.


Uhhhhh... Getting hit in the back is definitely above the waist.
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« Reply #108 on: August 08, 2007, 11:47:09 am »
Uhhhhh... Getting hit in the back is definitely above the waist.

oops...
damn.  can i blame that on a teething 8-month old and no coffee?
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« Reply #109 on: August 08, 2007, 11:50:11 am »
i was being sarcastic when i said i was surprised to see clemens do that in the 7th...i don't sense the same sarcasm in your post.
are you talking about a-rod getting hit earlier in that game?  because getting hit in the back isn't exactly above the waist.


No- I was not being a bit sarcastic about saying my initial reaction was that I was surprised that the benches cleared and that Rocket retaliated.  Was listening to the game on the radio and Doray said benches emptied two times and I ddin't get why really

AROD getting plunked was itself retaliation- and usually it just ends there (especally considering his teammates basically thought what he did was bush league with the foul pop). Watching the video the anouncers were saying that it was the second night in a row, so the thought process probably is enough- it stops here.  Notice the first night there weren't any incidents.

Yes- I was talking about the way AROD got plunked earlier in the game. It wasn't at all head hunting or anything close. I think it was the fact he got hit again.

Compare it to when Roy got hit in Chicago after the Kerry Wood v Roy O debacle the week before. Roy just trotted down to first base and it would have been over then if sandy vagina did not follow him down the line yapping like the taco bell dog.


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« Reply #110 on: August 08, 2007, 11:50:27 am »
oops...
damn.  can i blame that on a teething 8-month old and no coffee?

I'm not sure how they'll notate that in the official scorebook.
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« Reply #111 on: August 08, 2007, 11:59:53 am »
No- I was not being a bit sarcastic about saying my initial reaction was that I was surprised that the benches cleared and that Rocket retaliated.  Was listening to the game on the radio and Doray said benches emptied two times and I ddin't get why really

AROD getting plunked was itself retaliation- and usually it just ends there (especally considering his teammates basically thought what he did was bush league with the foul pop). Watching the video the anouncers were saying that it was the second night in a row, so the thought process probably is enough- it stops here.  Notice the first night there weren't any incidents.

Yes- I was talking about the way AROD got plunked earlier in the game. It wasn't at all head hunting or anything close. I think it was the fact he got hit again.

Compare it to when Roy got hit in Chicago after the Kerry Wood v Roy O debacle the week before. Roy just trotted down to first base and it would have been over then if sandy vagina did not follow him down the line yapping like the taco bell dog.




The whole thing was pretty cut and dried.

AROD screams like a sissy in a bush league move.

Toronto, next chance they get, drill him. Monday.

Toronto's pitcher Tuesday obviously dings AROD on purpose again Tuesday. Benches clear but nothing really happens, as is wont to do in situations where the players all want to look like hardasses but don't actually want to get in a scrap.

Everything settles down until Toronto's pitcher and 1st baseman start jawing at AROD some more. AROD takes offense and starts pointing and generally acting like the Kansas City Faggot he is. Benches re-clear. Larry Bowa goes insane. Matt Stairs is headed off at the pass as he comes flying at AROD like a hairy, fat torpedo. Someone's sister named Shelly comes out of the Yankees dugout to slow him down.

Everything gets settled.

Roger, being the massive douche that he is, dots a Blue Jay in what I assume was his idea of getting even for the 2nd beaning.

Angel Hernandez, in a shocking move, does the right thing and sends Roger to the showers.

Pretty standard.
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« Reply #112 on: August 08, 2007, 12:00:12 pm »
No- I was not being a bit sarcastic about saying my initial reaction was that I was surprised that the benches cleared and that Rocket retaliated.  Was listening to the game on the radio and Doray said benches emptied two times and I ddin't get why really

AROD getting plunked was itself retaliation- and usually it just ends there (especally considering his teammates basically thought what he did was bush league with the foul pop). Watching the video the anouncers were saying that it was the second night in a row, so the thought process probably is enough- it stops here.  Notice the first night there weren't any incidents.

Yes- I was talking about the way AROD got plunked earlier in the game. It wasn't at all head hunting or anything close. I think it was the fact he got hit again.

Compare it to when Roy got hit in Chicago after the Kerry Wood v Roy O debacle the week before. Roy just trotted down to first base and it would have been over then if sandy vagina did not follow him down the line yapping like the taco bell dog.



i believe there is a link somewhere in this thread that you can use to see the video of the two bench-clearings.  it isn't dq's style to go out quietly, right?  i'm sure he relished the opportunity to play plunk 'n toss, especially leading 7-0 in the 7th.   
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« Reply #113 on: August 08, 2007, 12:05:38 pm »

The whole thing was pretty cut and dried.

AROD screams like a sissy in a bush league move.

Toronto, next chance they get, drill him. Monday.

Toronto's pitcher Tuesday obviously dings AROD on purpose again Tuesday. Benches clear but nothing really happens, as is wont to do in situations where the players all want to look like hardasses but don't actually want to get in a scrap.

Everything settles down until Toronto's pitcher and 1st baseman start jawing at AROD some more. AROD takes offense and starts pointing and generally acting like the Kansas City Faggot he is. Benches re-clear. Larry Bowa goes insane. Matt Stairs is headed off at the pass as he comes flying at AROD like a hairy, fat torpedo. Someone's sister named Shelly comes out of the Yankees dugout to slow him down.

Everything gets settled.

Roger, being the massive douche that he is, dots a Blue Jay in what I assume was his idea of getting even for the 2nd beaning.

Angel Hernandez, in a shocking move, does the right thing and sends Roger to the showers.

Pretty standard.

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« Reply #114 on: August 08, 2007, 12:15:03 pm »

The whole thing was pretty cut and dried.

AROD screams like a sissy in a bush league move.

Toronto, next chance they get, drill him. Monday.

Toronto's pitcher Tuesday obviously dings AROD on purpose again Tuesday. Benches clear but nothing really happens, as is wont to do in situations where the players all want to look like hardasses but don't actually want to get in a scrap.

Everything settles down until Toronto's pitcher and 1st baseman start jawing at AROD some more. AROD takes offense and starts pointing and generally acting like the Kansas City Faggot he is. Benches re-clear. Larry Bowa goes insane. Matt Stairs is headed off at the pass as he comes flying at AROD like a hairy, fat torpedo. Someone's sister named Shelly comes out of the Yankees dugout to slow him down.

Everything gets settled.

Roger, being the massive douche that he is, dots a Blue Jay in what I assume was his idea of getting even for the 2nd beaning.

Angel Hernandez, in a shocking move, does the right thing and sends Roger to the showers.

Pretty standard.

Good summary. What was with Clemens jawing with Angel. Sure, Angel is a dueche, but Roger had to know that was coming and expect it. Also- he waiting long enough to make sure he had the game in hand and get the win. What a jackass.


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« Reply #115 on: August 08, 2007, 12:17:39 pm »
Good summary. What was with Clemens jawing with Angel. Sure, Angel is a dueche, but Roger had to know that was coming and expect it. Also- he waiting long enough to make sure he had the game in hand and get the win. What a jackass.



Come on... Its Roger Clemens. Frosty Tips himself.

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« Reply #116 on: August 08, 2007, 12:24:32 pm »
Good summary. What was with Clemens jawing with Angel. Sure, Angel is a dueche, but Roger had to know that was coming and expect it. Also- he waiting long enough to make sure he had the game in hand and get the win. What a jackass.



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« Reply #117 on: August 08, 2007, 12:28:24 pm »
Come on... Its Roger Clemens. Frosty Tips himself.

Roger wasn't going to get tossed without bitching up a storm, even if he knew he deserved it.

I would have given a year's salary to have seen Stairs actually deck A-Rod.  "Yeah, you're great, Alex, but you just got your ass kicked by Matt Fucking Stairs."
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« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2007, 12:34:39 pm »
dueche?

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« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2007, 12:35:52 pm »
It's what happens when Clemens and Pettitte go fencing together.

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Last night's game was the sixth between the two clubs since the infamous incident but it marked the first time Rodriguez has faced any form of direct retribution.

During Monday's opening game of the series, which the Yankees also won, Rodriguez had to dodge a pitch that was thrown behind his legs by Toronto pitcher Jesse Litsch.

 
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"He's a quitter," Towers said of Pena, who used to manage in Kansas City before joining the Yankees. "He's managing a team and quit in the middle of the season because he couldn't hack it and he's going to run his mouth to me?"
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« Reply #121 on: August 08, 2007, 12:56:38 pm »
Rackette probably ran out of gas, and rather than get lit up until he could remember which hamstring was supposed to be hurting, he chose to remove himself from the game by plunking a Jay.


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« Reply #122 on: August 08, 2007, 03:18:24 pm »
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« Reply #123 on: August 08, 2007, 05:02:26 pm »
It's what happens when Clemens and Pettitte go "fencing" together.

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« Reply #124 on: August 08, 2007, 05:05:30 pm »
I'm sure they've crossed swords on occassion.
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« Reply #125 on: August 09, 2007, 08:01:40 pm »
Rackette probably ran out of gas, and rather than get lit up until he could remember which hamstring was supposed to be hurting, he chose to remove himself from the game by plunking a Jay.



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« Reply #127 on: August 10, 2007, 09:10:41 am »
How much is that in $$$s?

I presume that he's not getting paid while he's suspended, but where does the money go? One would hope that Steinbrenner doesn't get to pocket it.

For that matter, what does the commissioner's office do with the fines they collect?
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« Reply #128 on: August 10, 2007, 11:52:19 am »

For that matter, what does the commissioner's office do with the fines they collect?

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« Reply #129 on: August 10, 2007, 04:33:04 pm »
I presume that he's not getting paid while he's suspended, but where does the money go? One would hope that Steinbrenner doesn't get to pocket it.

For that matter, what does the commissioner's office do with the fines they collect?

On a serious note- I read an article about a year ago that says that the vast majority of fines go uncollected. I think that was MLB (but it could have been the NBA). Every league is a little different is the upshot of what they do with the fines.