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Patton & Home Runs
« on: July 02, 2007, 08:10:36 am »
Troy Patton is going to have to work on keeping the ball in the yard.  In his last 3 starts, he has given up 6 round trippers.  He has surrendered multiple homers in 3 of his last 6 starts.  This is after only giving up 2 in his first 10 starts.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2007, 01:24:58 pm »
Troy Patton is going to have to work on keeping the ball in the yard.  In his last 3 starts, he has given up 6 round trippers.  He has surrendered multiple homers in 3 of his last 6 starts.  This is after only giving up 2 in his first 10 starts.

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2007, 01:26:51 pm »
Sounds like we shouldn't call him up while Woody is still with the club.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2007, 01:45:53 pm »
Sounds like we shouldn't call him up while Woody is still with the club.
No, we should, who will teach him the art of giving up the longball and STILL being able to pitch until you are 40!

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2007, 02:08:41 pm »
No, we should, who will teach him the art of giving up the longball and STILL being able to pitch until you are 40!

he's LH. he'll pitch till he's 60.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2007, 04:04:06 pm »
Is there a separate thread to complain about Jim's new avatar, or can we pile onto this one?

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2007, 04:14:23 pm »
he's LH. he'll pitch till he's 60.

that's good because the astros will let him rot in the minors until he is 40.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 04:33:38 pm »
that's good because the astros will let him rot in the minors until he is 40.

You think they should fast-track a 21-year old who's giving up HR at an alarming rate?
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 05:13:26 pm »
You think they should fast-track a 21-year old who's giving up HR at an alarming rate?

Only if he starts to trust his stuff more.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2007, 07:18:50 am »
Looks like Patton is moving up to AAA.  I guess this means Brad James will be moving up to AA very soon.  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4939749.html

"Lefthander Troy Patton of Tomball will likely make his next start at Class AAA Round Rock, assistant general manager Ricky Bennett said Monday. Some details still need to be worked out."

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2007, 07:55:53 am »
Looks like Patton is moving up to AAA.  I guess this means Brad James will be moving up to AA very soon.  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4939749.html

"Lefthander Troy Patton of Tomball will likely make his next start at Class AAA Round Rock, assistant general manager Ricky Bennett said Monday. Some details still need to be worked out."

His body of work as a whole this season warrants the call up.  The HR trend is worth watching.  They have been working on him keeping balls down throughout his development.  The rough stretch he had last year in Salem was due to not keeping the ball down, so this is nothing new.  It is a mechanics issue. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2007, 09:42:35 am »
His body of work as a whole this season warrants the call up.  The HR trend is worth watching.  They have been working on him keeping balls down throughout his development.  The rough stretch he had last year in Salem was due to not keeping the ball down, so this is nothing new.  It is a mechanics issue. 

May be just a sample-size oddity, but after wondering about his flyball tendencies all year (for a while I think, the ratio was below 1.0), I noticed that the last two games he has started to get many more grounders (17/9).  Obviously, there are some mistakes mixed in there, but maybe it is a sign of progress.

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Patton moving to Round Rock
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2007, 03:00:23 pm »
Looks like Patton is moving up to AAA.  I guess this means Brad James will be moving up to AA very soon.  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4939749.html

"Lefthander Troy Patton of Tomball will likely make his next start at Class AAA Round Rock, assistant general manager Ricky Bennett said Monday. Some details still need to be worked out."

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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2007, 03:12:33 pm »
It is official

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2007, 02:01:34 pm »
It appears that we might have a dry evening, so I'll get to watch Patton's start. What should I be watching for, besides home runs?
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2007, 02:25:44 pm »
It appears that we might have a dry evening, so I'll get to watch Patton's start. What should I be watching for, besides home runs?

Look for Ground ball outs.  If that is working he is pitching good.  Alot of fly ball outs indicates he is struggling keeping the ball down.  Also watch the radar and see what his fastball is hitting.  I would like to know that.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2007, 11:00:08 pm »
his line looks good;
7 IP, 4 hits, 1 Run/ER, no walks or home runs, 2 K's

Did his performance match his line?
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2007, 01:15:03 am »
From JimR in a thread on the Talk Zone
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7 strong innings pitched and got the win. Randolph and Driskill finished.

his stuff is not as good as i expected. FB 87-90, not a big CB, not many Ks, lots of hard hit balls and great defense behind him, very much a "fly ball pitcher" tonight, which to me says he did not keep the ball down

very poised and composed, looked like an established AAA pitcher instead of a 21 year old, good command/control, pitched inside well, did not get rattled, had the game well in hand with help from his fielders

solid effort, but he looks to be a #2-3 candidate in a MLB rotation rather than an ace. nothing wrong with that. great first outing.

i talked to a local BA reporter after the game who told me that he has lost 3-4 mph on his FB this year. he says no one is concerned about it, and he thinks it may be deliberate.

http://www.orangewhoopass.com/forums/index.php?topic=102944.0

I wonder if they plan on working him back up in to the low to mid 90's or if this is permanent to help his control and stamina?
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2007, 08:17:36 am »
his line looks good;
7 IP, 4 hits, 1 Run/ER, no walks or home runs, 2 K's

Did his performance match his line?

Jim captured it quite nicely. He was the beneficiary of at least three nice defensive plays in the outfield, including an outstanding diving grab of a hard-hit ball in the RCF gap by Rodriquez in the 2nd, and a tough diving grab on a sinking liner by Lane in RF in the 6th or 7th. The run scored on a sac fly to right (it was moderately deep, but Lane's throw was pretty pathetic). I never saw anything over 90 mph, and his curve wasn't a big bender. On the two strikeouts to end the first, he threw something that stayed outside to the two right-handed batters, and looked like it maybe even moved away from them a little bit. Maybe they were just ordinary fastballs, and he's got a tail; couldn't really tell. Damn left-handers; everything's backwards.

Quite a few more fly balls than ground balls. Quite a few hard-hit balls, but almost all of them turned into outs. I thought Conrad was going to get killed on one short-hop liner to second, but stood his ground and turned it into a double-play; very impressive.

And Q nailed the Omaha runner trying to steal 3rd, down by 2 with 2 outs in the 9th. WTF? The biggest benefit of the doubt my friend and I could give him was that the runner on 1st missed the sign for the double steal, so the lead runner just looked like an idiot. At least if the double-steal succeeds you've got the tying run in scoring position. As it was, it was just a head-scratcher.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2007, 09:03:54 pm »
Does any one know the reason Patton has not pitched at RR since that 1st game? thxs

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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2007, 10:03:21 pm »
I am assuming it has to do with the All Star Break. I haven't heard any other reason.

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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2007, 09:53:08 pm »
Second AAA start:

5 innings (pitched to 6 batters in the sixth), 10 hits (3 HRs), 9 Earned Runs.  Had faced the minimum through 4 thanks to a caught stealing.  Blew up in 5th and 6th.   
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2007, 09:58:10 pm »
Second AAA start:

5 innings (pitched to 6 batters in the sixth), 10 hits (3 HRs), 9 Earned Runs.  Had faced the minimum through 4 thanks to a caught stealing.  Blew up in 5th and 6th.   
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2007, 08:52:14 am »
Second AAA start:

5 innings (pitched to 6 batters in the sixth), 10 hits (3 HRs), 9 Earned Runs.  Had faced the minimum through 4 thanks to a caught stealing.  Blew up in 5th and 6th.   

To be fair, while he did leave the bases juiced and three runs already across in the 6th, Goat-throw was his usual (for this year) horrible self and didn't do much to stop the bleeding.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2007, 11:38:22 pm »
...Goat-throw was his usual (for this year) horrible self and didn't do much to stop the bleeting.
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2007, 10:14:26 am »
FIFY. Damn, I am on a roll here...sorry guys.

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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2007, 01:06:07 pm »
Does any one know the reason Patton has not pitched at RR since that 1st game? thxs

It's alittle late but I found the reason:

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His next start will be on nine days' rest, not the normal four days. The Astros are being extra careful with Patton, who has experienced shoulder fatigue the past two seasons.

"I'm at almost 110 innings already,” said Patton, who pitched a career-high 146 innings last year. "So to make it through the season they want to give me a break.”
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2007, 01:42:49 pm »
I saw Patton pitch again the Redhawks on Saturday evening and was very impressed.

He went 7 innings, giving up 2 hits, 1 BB, and 1 run.  The only run coming in the first inning with the runner stealing home (the entire Round Rock team was caught asleep.  Noone let Patton know that the runner was going.)  Even one of those hits should have been an error on the SS.  A good throw would have gotten the runner, but the throw pulled the first basemen off the bag.

His fastball was 88-90, with his change being anywhere from 76-80.  He did a great job of changing speeds and keeping hitter off balance.  He only gave up a hand full of solidly hit balls all night.

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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2007, 08:53:58 am »
I wasn't at the Express game last night, but according to the paper Patton had a nice outing: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2007, 09:29:56 am »
I wasn't at the Express game last night, but according to the paper Patton had a nice outing: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R.
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