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2501
Talk Zone / Re: Jonesing for a ballgame
« on: July 12, 2012, 11:18:11 pm »
3 great comebacks in the minors tonight at least

2502
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: July 12, 2012, 05:46:21 pm »
It ends tonight...  Wallace is being moved to SS at OKC...

RT @NewsOKRedHawks Marwin Gonzalez had flight issues and Jimmy Paredes away for the birth of his child. Brett Wallace forced into shortstop.

Confused, why what happened to Angel Sanchez?  Plus Dominguez played short in highschool.

2504
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: July 11, 2012, 07:54:45 am »


http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120710&content_id=34830446&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

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Foltynewicz, whose 15 career wins for Lexington are tied with Mike Nannini's mark for the most in team history

A whole 15 wins is the record?

2505
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: ASG
« on: July 10, 2012, 07:36:37 pm »
Fontana with walk number 10 in his 23rd professional plate appearance.  That has got to be a record

2506
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: July 10, 2012, 03:46:12 pm »
Regarding Dominguez, whose roster spot did he take? I take it that he'll be the everyday 3B, so is that the end of Wallace at 3B for now? I'll hang up and listen.

PCL is on break too.  They don't have to decide anything till Thursday

2507
Talk Zone / Re: Terrific, Concise Recap of Yesrterday's Crapfest Plus
« on: July 10, 2012, 10:15:14 am »
What makes you think Rendon will ever stay healthy?

His inability to stay healthy so far is probably the only reason the Stros would even have a shot of extracting him from the Nats.  

2508
Talk Zone / Re: Terrific, Concise Recap of Yesrterday's Crapfest Plus
« on: July 10, 2012, 08:01:18 am »
3-5.  Strasburg will be shut down at the end of July if they want him for late September and October.  
Still dreaming that a Wandy, (Paredes or Villar) and cash can get Rendon.

2014 lineup:
SS-Fontana
2B-Altuve
1B-Singleton
LF-JD Martinez
DH-F Martinez
CF-Springer
3B-Rendon
C-Castro
RF-Santana


2509
Talk Zone / Re: Terrific, Concise Recap of Yesrterday's Crapfest Plus
« on: July 10, 2012, 06:34:57 am »
Quote
Washington-Zimmermann, Strasburg, Gonzalez, Detwiler and Jackson. Wandy slots in 4 or 5 there, tops.
3-5.  Strasburg will be shut down at the end of July if they want him for late September and October.  

2510
Talk Zone / Re: Terrific, Concise Recap of Yesrterday's Crapfest Plus
« on: July 09, 2012, 01:10:34 pm »
No question they're in a better place with regard to what's in the pipeline. The tough part is enduring what's with the big club right now.

True but at least there are names to hang your hat of optimism on.  

2511
Talk Zone / Re: Terrific, Concise Recap of Yesrterday's Crapfest Plus
« on: July 09, 2012, 01:00:49 pm »
One reason for optimism is the minor leagues are now flowing with talent that should be arriving year after year.

Just a quick look starting pitching (probably missed a few):
Keuchel (ready), Musick(1 year), Cisnero(1 year), Oberholtzer(1 year)
Seaton(1-2 years), Cosart (1-2 years), Foltynewicz(2 years), Tropeano(2 years),
Doran(2 years), Alaniz(2-3 years), Velasquez(3 years)
McCullers (3-4 years), Brady Rodgers(3-4 years), Juri Perez (3-4 years), Houser(3-4 years), Michael Feliz(4 years)

If 25% of these guys succeed they are looking at one a year (with the expectation that more will be added that fit within 4 years)

This is a whole heck of a lot better than when it was Lyles and ummm well ummmm.

2512
Talk Zone / Re: Terrific, Concise Recap of Yesrterday's Crapfest Plus
« on: July 09, 2012, 12:51:03 pm »
That's a huge piece of it, yes.  Defense is erratic, doesn't seem to be blessed with a lot of "situational awareness", and despite his good start offensively, doesn't get on base at a high enough rate.

He's an okay player, and maybe the second best player on this team, but damning...faint praise...something.

I think he gets too much flack from people.  The guy saw 32 games in the field at AA, only 25 of which were at second.  Things move faster at each level and this guy basically skipped 2 of them.   Plus he's on a team where veteran guidance doesn't exist.  Shocker he's not Ozzie Smith out the gate.  




2513
Altuve with an RBI double

2514
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 10:14:36 pm »
They did it!  Worst record in the majors. 

2515
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 10:03:27 pm »
Well, the no hitter is gone but Seaton still has a good one going with 7ks through 6 on a 1 hitter

Failed to finish it in the 9th but still a great game for Seaton 8.1 3 0 0 2 8 0

2516
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 09:19:57 pm »
Well, the no hitter is gone but Seaton still has a good one going with 7ks through 6 on a 1 hitter

2517
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:53:30 pm »

2518
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:45:17 pm »
Something mildly interesting going on in the Hooks game

2519
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:40:05 pm »
and there is your 3rd.  Prediction complete

2520
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:34:11 pm »
You got a pitcher who is racking up the pitches and your top 2 in the order manage 3 pitches

2521
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:25:58 pm »
DeShields covering the baserunning cycle.  Stolen base, caught stealing and picked off

2522
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:20:42 pm »
Good time for Dominguez to get off the snide

2523
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Brew Crew @ Astros 07/06/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 07:13:47 pm »
2 down 1 to go

2524
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: July 06, 2012, 06:12:51 pm »
Dodgers are looking for offense upgrades so I'm sure they'd rather have Lowrie.  Wonder if CJ might be interesting to them

2525
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: July 06, 2012, 03:55:09 pm »
Interesting.  Dodgers should be getting close to desparate with Dee Gordon out 6 weeks. 

Quote
http://lasordaslair.com/2012/07/01/carlos-lee-deal-falls-through/


2526
A finding of liability is a possible result of a lawsuit.  It is far from guaranteed. 

Either way it costs the company money to fight it

2527
Company is firing him for leaving his assigned area.  Though, they are quick to point out it was covered.  I would venture to guess, that leaving your assigned area is grounds for immediate dismissal in the company HR manual.  

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"We have liability issues and can't go out of the protected area," said supervisor Susan Ellis. "What he did was his own decision. He knew the company rules and did what he thought he needed to do."

I guess you could read this 2 ways, one in that leaving the protected area could leave the protected area unprotected.  Or that services performed outside the protected area result in more risk to the company.  Not sure.

2528
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Hallandale Beach began outsourcing its lifeguards in 2003 as a money-saving measure. The city pays the company about $334,000 annually to provide four lifeguards and one supervisor at the beach year-round, said Dobens.

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The job pays $8.25 an hour, the lifeguards said.
Wow.

Lifeguards:
8.25*4*8 (assuming the beach is open 8 hours a day)*365 = 96,360  before taxes on that payroll

Supervisor:
Let's assume 12 dollars an hour: 35,040.  So we have 130k in salaries before taxes on those salaries.  Not sure what those are.

And then there is insurance, Lawyer(s) on retainer.  Does the company have an office?  There is a lease there.  Secretay?  Add another 25k in salary.  

Really not hard to dwindle away 334k.  Guessing it costed the city a whole lot more than 334k when they were running it.


2529
"can sue" =/= liability

Quote
liable [ˈlaɪəbəl]
adj (postpositive)
1. (Law) legally obliged or responsible; answerable

And therefore can be sued

2530
Less of a liability issue then it is a ridiculous corporate policy.

It's a corporate policy because lifegaurds on company time are the responsibility of the company.  And even if you are trying to save someone's ass they can turn around and sue you.   This fella in intensive care may still do that. 

2531
Beer and Queso / Liability rules in this country are beyond stupid
« on: July 06, 2012, 09:32:21 am »
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/hallandale/fl-hallandale-beach-lifeguards-20120703,0,5326638.story

Firend of victim:  "Help! My friend is dorwning!"
Lifegaurd who is following the rules: "Can you have him thrash his way to the left a 50 feet?   Insurance doesn't cover anything I do over there"


2532
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:52:39 am »
Since this is only his third year of big league time, they sent Happ out last year in what I think was his fourth year of some time with the parent club, so I don't see why they couldn't send Schreefer out.

No idea if this is accurate but:
http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2012/07/05/as-second-half-looms-what-changes-should-astros-make/

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: If you’re thinking about sending players to OKC, Harrell, Brian Bogusevic and Jordan Schafer are out of options.


2533
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: July 06, 2012, 08:35:29 am »

2534
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 08:08:22 pm »
bah

2535
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 07:49:41 pm »
Boy, that was an ugly at-bat for JD. 2-0 Bottom 6
JD not a fan of the curveball

2536
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 06:49:03 pm »
Nice, apparantly the Pirate mascot has been trying to take out DoRay with a hotdog from 200 feet the whole series...

2537
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 06:45:20 pm »
light at the end of the tunnel?

They both had RBI singles in the second inning

2538
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 06:37:44 pm »
The baseball will find you...Moore is not an outfielder

2539
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 06:21:48 pm »
Fontana starting at DH for Lexington tonight.  Both he and DeShields walked to start the game.  Deshields stole second and third, Fontana stole second

2540
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 05:59:53 pm »
As far as Shreefer is concerned, Maxwell is skipping surgery and will be back shortly after the break.  Schreefer maybe on borrowed time.  Barnes wouldn't be a bad option either if Schreefer has options

2541
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates 07/05/12
« on: July 05, 2012, 05:58:19 pm »
One thing with Dominguez is he was suppose to develop better than he has.  Can't hurt for the big league coaches to get a first hand look before sending him to AAA to figure things out.

2542
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 05, 2012, 10:57:09 am »
As I recall, he was scorching hot (and carrying the offense) when he got hurt.

As true as that may be, the club was 3 games under 500 (56-59) going into that game.  And 30-16 after.  He did have a hand in the beginning of "the streak" though.  As they were 9-3 int the 12 games prior to his injury

2543
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 05, 2012, 10:46:17 am »
He was a big factor in that 2008 run. That was fun year until it wasn't.

Lee broke his finger.  He wasn't a part of the run

2544
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 05, 2012, 10:43:25 am »
Most multi-year free agent contracts have been ridiculous. Some more than others. Soriano, Wells, Fielder, Pujols, Zito, Werth... all, one way or another, ridiculous. If you're bidding against others to acquire a player and the money per year is close, adding years is what closes the deal.

Since they weren't spending my money, I was happy when Carlos was signed.

Wasn't just a matter of money.   It was for too many years, heavily backfilled AND had a no trade clause.  Was very shortsighted.  I don't blame Lee for the contract, that's all Purpura and Drayton.  

2545
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 05, 2012, 10:38:22 am »
I read something that said it was temporary while CJ is on the mend.

Plus I read that the All-Star break was a factor.  They wanted to make more permanent decisions during the break.   (Could be that they have other trades that might occur before then as well)


2546
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 05, 2012, 08:06:23 am »
To my knowledge Carlos was a very popular teammate.

Carlos may have been a good player and teammate.  The problem was the ridiculous contract he was under.  I'd like to think this officially ends the backlash from the Purpura era.  Only up from here. 

2547
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 04, 2012, 10:10:01 pm »
Are you sure mono was this year? He already had it back in '08.

Nope read that somewhere.  Could have been an error.

ETA.  Looks like it was an error, striking it.

2548
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 04, 2012, 09:49:03 pm »
It's a buy low on Dominguez.  He's only 22.  


http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=16250

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While there is no guarantee that Dominguez will improve with the bat, his age and demonstrated skills provide tangible anchors for hope. Even if this is what he is—Pedro Feliz with a touch less power and a bit more on-base ability—that has value to a major-league roster. It’s all but guaranteed that he won’t develop into a star in Miami, but there is still a chance he could blossom under the tutelage of another organization’s coaching staff.


2549
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 04, 2012, 08:12:19 pm »
Hessman was not in the lineup today at OKC...

Scratch that Hessman pinch hitting as I type

2550
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 04, 2012, 07:56:31 pm »
You can't spell Luhnow without Hun.  #4 and #7? I know the Marlins have a bad system but damn that is amazing

Hessman was not in the lineup today at OKC...

2551
Talk Zone / Re: Carlos to Miami?
« on: July 04, 2012, 07:45:57 pm »
You can't spell Luhnow without Hun.  #4 and #7? I know the Marlins have a bad system but damn that is amazing

2552
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/04/12
« on: July 04, 2012, 03:00:34 pm »
Come on Lowrie, up to you now

2553
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/04/12
« on: July 04, 2012, 02:59:00 pm »
nice.  There you go Jose, knock him in

Bah, defense.

2554
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/04/12
« on: July 04, 2012, 02:57:37 pm »
Bogie needs to steal second here
nice.  There you go Jose, knock him in

2555
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/04/12
« on: July 04, 2012, 02:55:44 pm »
Bogie needs to steal second here

2556
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/04/12
« on: July 04, 2012, 02:49:01 pm »
Hey BG. Don't know where everyone is today.

Momma said if you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all

2557
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/03/12
« on: July 04, 2012, 07:11:27 am »
Good news.  San Diego and Colorado won.  The Stros are now only a half game back from them and 1.5 behind the Cubs.  They can do it!!

2558
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/03/12
« on: July 03, 2012, 06:58:27 pm »
Millsie with "moore" lineup magic, plugging him in at the five.

Liked the coment from MLBTR when Buck got DFA'd.  "Get Moore for your Buck"

2559
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/03/12
« on: July 03, 2012, 06:55:37 pm »
CJ who?

2560
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/03/12
« on: July 03, 2012, 06:44:02 pm »
So I take it that K-Rod blew the lead, since he came with an 11-9 lead?

yup

2561
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/03/12
« on: July 03, 2012, 06:35:57 pm »
Brewers just completed blowing a 9-2 after 6 (also was a 11-5 lead after 7)

2562
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: July 03, 2012, 12:22:44 pm »
Everybody experiments a little in college.

Can't argue this fact, but he never went to college

2563
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: July 03, 2012, 12:14:56 pm »
Bogusevic?

He's never played an inning in the outfiled in his 4.5 years in the minors.  He probably could learn it, but I doubt they call him up to play the outfield without experimenting at AAA first.


2564
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: July 03, 2012, 11:38:54 am »
I wonder if we will be seeing Paredes soon to try and get some more offense into this team.

Who you going to sit, Altuve, Lowrie or Moore?

2565
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/02/12
« on: July 02, 2012, 07:40:07 pm »
Hit a leadoff double.  Castro hits one to the right field track.  JD is picnicking between second and third, and can't tag.  Moore screams a grounder to third which would have scored JD if he had tagged.  That run is looking pretty meager now though.  


So the 3rd baseman had to dive or something?

2566
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/02/12
« on: July 02, 2012, 07:30:13 pm »
That's two days in a row for a JD brain fart on the paths. And we leave them loaded again..

Not following, how did JD cost them a run there?

2567
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Piroots 07/02/12
« on: July 02, 2012, 07:25:58 pm »
How much space is there between us and Minnesota?

We've past Minnesota.  Just a couple behind Colorado.  2.5 behind the Cubs and San Diego.  They can do it!

2568
Talk Zone / Re: Peavy stepping up
« on: July 01, 2012, 08:38:40 pm »
I still applaud the player for doing that, especially for the reason that he did, i.e., in memory of his former coach. You don't have any idea of how much he gives to charity other than this, and neither do I. It might be a lot. I'd not be so quick to be so sarcastic.

you're right.  Absolutely stupid to say anything negative about someone giving to charity. 

2569
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ FTC 07/01/12 Decision Day
« on: July 01, 2012, 07:23:53 pm »
Yeah, I don't really understand the vitriol about Carlos doing what he contractually negotiated for and is entitled to do.  I can think of a bunch of reasons that he might not want to go, including having to live out of a hotel for the rest of the season (assuming he doesn't want to bother renting/buying a house and having to figure out all the details that includes) to not wanting to have to join a team full of people he doesn't know and beyond.  It's a big change and if doesn't want to do it and doesn't have to do it, who are we to excoriate the guy for doing what he wants to do with his life?

Maybe if he performed anywhere near the contract he has, I'd be sympathetic.  I'm not going to rag on the guy, but I'm not backing him either.

2570
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: July 01, 2012, 07:17:52 pm »
Nothing like riding off into the sunset in a blaze of mediocrity

mediocrity would be an improvement


2571
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: July 01, 2012, 06:40:47 pm »
I don't recall a player being allowed to ponder a trade this long? 

2572
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ FTC 07/01/12 Decision Day
« on: July 01, 2012, 06:37:20 pm »
it's kinda nice to see somebody actually prefer to be here.

Sounds like Pup should have been able to negotiate a cheaper contract.

2573
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ FTC 07/01/12 Decision Day
« on: July 01, 2012, 06:22:16 pm »
seems like a pocket veto

2574
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ FTC 07/01/12 Decision Day
« on: July 01, 2012, 05:12:29 pm »
If Lee chooses to stick around for this crap, then he has no love for the game

2575
Talk Zone / Re: The Big Decision
« on: July 01, 2012, 06:46:06 am »
The first option came and went already.

I haven't the slightest clue what Lee is going to decide.  It's best for the team if he decides to go, so I know what I want him to decide. 

Kudos to Luhnow either way.  To get a top 10 prospect from anyone for Lee is damn impressive

2576
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: June 30, 2012, 11:54:42 am »
Quote
•Lee met with GM Jeff Luhnow this morning and told reporters (including MLB.com's Brian McTaggart) that the Dodgers have made an offer (Twitter link). He is going to take some time if decide if he wants to accept it. Lee is in the lineup for Houston this afternoon.

2577
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: June 30, 2012, 11:40:34 am »
Lee and Lowrie in the lineup today.  Hopefully, Lee didn't nix a trade...

2578
Talk Zone / Re: Lowrie/Lee to LAD?
« on: June 30, 2012, 06:09:59 am »
This one will be screwed up in rumors a lot given the 2 Lee's involved. 

2579
I agree that the ACA is a bad mix.  My druthers would have been the single payer option, i.e. Medicare / VA for all.

As for your libertarian leanings, that's fine.  I have them too (believe it or not).  However, certain risks are too large for the commercial insurance market to handle.  The list of government taxpayer-underwritten insurance is quite extensive, even in Texas:

* Flood
* Windstorm
* Nuclear
* War
* Terrorism
* Bank default (FDIC)

Every other industrialised nation adds "healthcare" to that list.

Is not the difference here is that the government is providing the service should the risk occur on one of these?  Like a war, terorist act, bank default etc.  In Health Insurance the private sector provides the service as the risk occurs.  So sovernment provided insurance leads to the government regulating health care providers.  And then the suppliers to the health care providers. So now the government runs the drug companies, hospitals, doctors, nurses, janitors, etc.  Medical malpractice would need to be regulated.  where does it end?  Jobs that cause more health risks should be regulated.  Food is a major factor in health.  Regulate all food.  So the farmers, grocery stores, transportation companies, etc.  And hey, Hospitals need to be built, so construction companies, steel plants, hardware suppliers.  Screw it, regulate everything.  When you are born your careeer and standard of living are decided.  Congratulations, your daughter is a doctor.  Too bad she is has to live and work in Dallas.

2580
This may be.  But paying to have something is usually better than paying not to have something.  A simple comparison of dollars spent isn't the whole equation.

Unless of course you can get insurance should you end up needing it, no matter what the pre-existing conditions

2581
Um, The government doesn't have any money. Taxpayers will pay for it.

Form what I understand, paying the penalties/tax, catastrophic insurance, and paying the doctor out of my own pocket is still cheaper than carrying private insurance.


What you mean GM isn't making profits for the government?

2582
I think the elements of the Act that are intended to at least dampen increases in healthcare costs, if not lower them, are:

* More insured people means less uninsured using emergency rooms for general healthcare (as you stated)
* More insured people - and co-pay/coinsurance free check-ups including mammograms - means better general health (through prevention) and lower costs overall
* Healthy people forced to buy insurance, adding dollars to the pool without taking much out in claims
* Insurers being required to spend a minimum percentage of premiums on actual care, which limits their ability to trouser otherwise unnecessary premium increases
* Exchanges adding competition and bulk purchasing power to the individual buyer market

 - I think this assumes Doctors who supply preventative care are just waiting around for the next patient to walk through the door.  Everytime my wife make an appointment she has to book 2 months out now.
 - It also assumes the unisnured are going to pay for it.  The poor will be paid for by the government.
 - It also assumes the mandate will cause people who can afford insurance to purchase it.  You are a contractor making 100 k a year.  You can pay 1k in penalties (2.5 k in penalties in 2016) or pay 8k+ for heath insurance.  Knowing with the new rules, you can just walk up to an insurance comapny and they have to take you and your pre-existing condition.  Hmmm, which to choose...


2583
Except not really: http://timothymichaellaw.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/deficit-causes.png

Help me here.  How does the tax cuts money double from now until 2019?  Are they expecting the rich to be making twice as much in 2019 then they are today?  (and the government to be spending exactly the same)?

2584
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 09:59:03 pm »
Well, Myers is less likely to be traded

2585
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 09:51:49 pm »
Clank!

2586
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 09:32:00 pm »
And Clark saves a run!

2587
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 09:16:13 pm »
Milo and DoRay are totally lost.  What happened?

2588
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 09:08:30 pm »
Bogey!!  10th pitch of the at bat

2589
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 08:39:07 pm »
Probably all for Keuchel.  Good job without his best stuff.

2590
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/28/12
« on: June 28, 2012, 08:15:25 pm »
Wow, so this Cashner guy has no hit the Astros through 4

2591
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/27/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 09:16:44 pm »
1:57 on your game time.
according to mlb.com the fastest game this year. 

ETA: If you missed the game, check out the vidoe clips on mlb.com.  That guy was hauling around third.  Great play to get him.  Lee's play is pretty funny.

2592
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/27/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 09:10:03 pm »
That was fun.  Astros win!!

2593
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/27/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:30:47 pm »
Good defensive substitution, Millsie.

Scary lucky there.  If Bixler doesn't get that, it's a tie score and a runner in scoring position with no one out.  Instead of one done and a runner on first

2594
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/27/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:24:54 pm »
Bogey in as a defensive replacement...?

Did you miss the soft fly out err base hit that Bixler went back on first?

2595
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/27/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:21:58 pm »
These guys are flying through this game.  6 innings in the book, 1 hour and 15 minutes

2596
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Padres @ Astros 06/27/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:02:37 pm »
The defense is testing Harrell

2597
Talk Zone / Re: Inneresting...
« on: June 27, 2012, 02:33:50 pm »
Do you think Cruz will get to pitch again?

2598
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 27, 2012, 01:19:11 pm »
I've had 1 for years. 

That's Ausmus

2599
Talk Zone / Re: Left Field...something is coming.
« on: June 27, 2012, 01:12:34 pm »
Silver lining!

A tribute that consists of their logos placed so prominently and obnoxiously that everyone between here and Galveston will see them. Not ads in the slightest.

no revenue though

2600
Talk Zone / Re: Left Field...something is coming.
« on: June 27, 2012, 01:05:42 pm »
Reading the article it says it a tribute to the partners involved in an 18 million dollar community service project.  No revenue.

That being said, surely there had to be a better option.

2601
Talk Zone / Re: Need More Proof MLB Umps are idiots?
« on: June 27, 2012, 11:57:51 am »
"I went out on the ball and saw the ball into his glove in the stands. He disappeared into the stands and I believed that the ball was in his glove," DiMuro said. "In hindsight, I should have asked him to show me the ball since he fell into the stands and out of my line of vision."


So basically he went on faith that the ball was in his glove. 

2602
Talk Zone / Re: moves
« on: June 27, 2012, 11:44:01 am »
At this point, he should not be allowed to face a LHP.  Ever.

.284/.368/.440 vs. .152/.176/.212

Doing better than 2010

Against lefties in 2010 (43 ABs):
.070/.130/.093

2603
Talk Zone / Re: Need More Proof MLB Umps are idiots?
« on: June 27, 2012, 11:40:36 am »
Not just unbelievable. Unfuckingbelievable. Hanahan had it right. This is where instant replay would have exposed the stupidity of the call.

In this case, instant replay is not needed.  Even if he made the catch he has to hold on to it.  Ump should have check to see if he had the ball.   Instant replay is suppose to be for when the umpire needs the help to be able to make the call.  No help is needed here.  Check for the damn ball. 

2604
Talk Zone / Re: moves
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:21:09 am »
Is Snyder dinged up or something?  Castro with 4 starts in a row.

2605
Talk Zone / Re: moves
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:09:36 am »
Maxwell - 15 day DL
Scott Moore (if) - called up from OKC
Travis Buck - DFA
Fernando Martinez - down to OKC

Odd, with Bixler and Downs on the bench they have chosen Moore over Martinez.  I guess they are concerned about playing time for Fernando.  Probably still on the long term plans as the DH next year. 

2606
Talk Zone / Re: moves
« on: June 27, 2012, 08:03:32 am »
He did quite well in the pinch-hitting role as a LH bat off of the bench. I'm surprised that isn't more valuable to them.

Mills couldn't resist starting him.  Luhnow had to let him go

2607
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:58:55 pm »
jeff kent homerun game in the nlcs?

nope, got to run out and get dinner


Nolan Ryan 5th no hitter against the dodgers  9/26/1981

2608
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:56:12 pm »
was chris holt involved in the game?

no

2609
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:54:06 pm »
ausmus' last home game?

ummm nope

2610
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:53:05 pm »
did the astros win or lose the game?


win

2611
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:51:59 pm »

2612
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:51:38 pm »
The Niekro clincher against the Dodgers?

nope

2613
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:50:31 pm »
Not the 1986 game against the Mets or the meltdown in the 1981 playoffs against the Phillies?

nope and nope

2614
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:49:28 pm »

2615
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:42:02 pm »

2616
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:40:55 pm »
The 18 inning Burke home run game and the Scott no hitter should be there.

ding and ding

2617
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:38:22 pm »
Just got an Astros dvd collection for my birthday.  Has 4 full games.  Which 4 games do you think they picked?

2618
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:33:14 pm »
Has Lyles successfully pitched around an error yet?

yup

2619
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 06/26/12
« on: June 26, 2012, 07:28:45 pm »
Has Lyles successfully pitched around an error yet?

2620
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 26, 2012, 10:39:41 am »
With Ruiz, my hunch at the new top 10:

1. Correa
2. Singleton
3. Springer
4. McCullers
5. Cosart
6. Folty
7. Ruiz
8. DDS
9. Villar
10. Ovando

Can't see Ruiz being in the top 10 yet. 

2621
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:56:37 pm »
I'm serious. That ball was so short that a catcher has to make that stop. Castro is shitty at blocking balls.

No way.   That bounced nastily.  He got in front of it with the glove down and it shot off the ground

2622
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:51:15 pm »
Castro, fuck. You must make that play.

What play???  The one that bounced off the top of his chest protector?

2623
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:42:04 pm »
I ain't disagreeing with ya on this.  General consensus is though that Virant-math doesn't work that way...

It doesn't work that way now, but maybe he bangs his elbow against the car door before July 13th and thinks differently

2624
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:36:28 pm »
Count me in the minority perhaps, but I've never been strongly in the 'Virant is a $1M-worthy' draftee.  He may very well be '$1M-worthy', but I'm not sold on it so far...

750k plus a 4 year scholarship to a college of you choice is pretty close to a million

2625
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:26:55 pm »
Padres worth 800 million?

2626
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:17:40 pm »
The way I figure it, if they get Fontana and Tucker for as low as possible they could offer Virant 750k plus tuition

2627
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:14:12 pm »
CJ with a 6 game 2-hit streak

2628
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 09:02:04 pm »
Brownie: "Carlos, toughest to strike out in the majors"

2629
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 08:50:02 pm »
Folty gave up 12 hits and a BB including 2 doubles and a triple and gave up only 2 runs in 6 innings. That's tough to do.

2630
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 08:46:46 pm »
Wow, Schafer is not good

2631
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 08:42:06 pm »
double steal.
That was really stupid.  Castro has a 2-0 pitch and you come onestep from getting thrown out at third

2632
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 25, 2012, 05:02:46 pm »
I'm not down on Seaton at all, but I'd be hesitant about the "He throws mid nineties and flashes a plus breaking ball info."  After watching numerous games over the years, I rarely believe anything I read any more about prospects.  Most of it just seems like it is fifteenth hand repeated info, and bad info at that.  Seems like every young arm throws 95 with plus this or plus plus that.  Shit, if that were true, we'd be watching them in the majors.

Seaton was hardly throwing mid nineties when I saw him at the end of last year.  Is it possible that I caught him at a park with a slow gun, or he just didn't have his velocity?  Sure it is, but it is more likely that this is just more hyperbolic info.  

Yeah, I think he can "reach" the mid 90's but generally sits in the low 90's

2633
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:45:23 pm »
Quote
Mills: Altuve came in today and felt really good. Sitting out today for precaution. Seems to be fine however. Mills said he’s thrilled.

http://twitter.com/alysonfooter/status/217365486843867137

2634
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Fathers @ Astros 6/25/12
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:44:53 pm »
ASTROS
2B Brian Bixler
SS Jed Lowrie
1B Carlos Lee
RF Brian Bogusevic
3B Chris Johnson
C Jason Castro
LF J.D. Martinez
CF Jordan Schafer
P Wandy Rodriguez

PADRES
RF Chris Denorfia
CF Cameron Maybin
3B Chase Headley
LF Carlos Quentin
1B Jesus Guzman
2B Logan Forsythe
SS Everth Cabrera
C Nick Hundley
P Ross Ohlendorf

2635
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 25, 2012, 04:08:50 pm »
From that interview.

"All I will say about Lancaster is I never want to go back, ever. "



he had been to hell first

2636
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 25, 2012, 03:30:48 pm »
It seems like Seaton is making some strides this season, but I don't recall reading a ton about it.  Anyone have any thoughts/observations regarding his 2012 season at Corpus thusfar?!?

He just started to get some press in May and then had a couple of bad starts at the beginning of June that hushed the crowd.

It's in God's hands now:
http://whattheheckbobby.blogspot.com/2012/05/interview-with-rhp-ross-seaton.html

ETA:
This top 10 prospect list this year actually had him in it:
http://www.perfectgame.org/articles/View.aspx?article=6434
Quote
Understanding Seaton as a top prospect despite his basic minor league numbers requires putting things in perspective. To wit:

Seaton definitely has a prospect’s arm and age. He has a plus present fastball that regularly reaches the mid-90’s and a breaking ball that flashes plus potential. He pitched the entire 2011 season at age 21 in AA. If he had honored his commitment to Tulane out of high school instead of signing for $700K in the third round, he would have been a junior in the 2011 draft classes. College RHPs with his raw stuff get picked in the first round.

Seaton was a primary outfielder for much of his high school days and shot up the prospect lists during the spring of his senior season, when his fastball went from 88-90 to 92-95. He has a fresh arm and has never been injured.

If you are looking at his minor league performance, don’t underestimate the twin factors that a) Seaton, along with virtually every other Astros prospect, has been rushed at least a level beyond where most organizations would have placed him, and more importantly, b) his teams in 2010 and 2011 were simply awful, finishing a combined 72 games under .500, including Corpus Christi’s 50-90 mark in 2011. It’s hard to be a successful young pitcher in that environment.

2637
Talk Zone / Re: Schafer's futility
« on: June 25, 2012, 12:45:48 pm »
I have finally had enough too.  Of course I am not sure what the alternative is.

Since May, 127 ABs, .219 BA, .289 OB%, .315 SLG% 12BB, 41 Ks.

Package him up with Ross Seaton, Jake Buchanan, Jose Valdez for say De Aza?



2638
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 25, 2012, 11:35:57 am »
Apparantly Cosart feels he has figured things out a bit.  Second strait start without yielding a run.  This time a 4 hit, 2 BB 6 inning outing.  

Article:
Quote
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120625&content_id=33889386&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

In a nut shell, he believes he was putting to much pressure on himself.  At least his attitude sounds better then when they signed Galarraga instead of promoting a hook.


2639
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: June 25, 2012, 11:15:39 am »
End of Folty's low-A career?  Allstar game: 2 innings 4 Ks.  The only blemish is an 0-2 HBP

Folty to go back to work at Low-A tonight.  A bit surprising given the Doran/Oberholtzer promotions and Folty's dominance for the first half of low-A.  

ETA:
Tropeano continued his good season with a 2-hit, 3 BB, no runs 6 inning start

When they do promote, they will have a decision to make.


2640
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 04:06:44 pm »
8 runs given up over the last 5 games

2641
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 03:48:23 pm »
JD!!

2642
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 03:40:23 pm »
BFJ!!

2643
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:38:28 pm »
Hmmm, like "Paredes, get your shit packed"

Marwin is supposedly close to coming back

2644
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:33:08 pm »
I disagree. I think... well, I won't name them, for fear of spreading the jinx, but 2-3 other guys are often pleasures to watch (NTTAWWT?)

Yeah I thought of more but I'm not going to name them, just root root root

2645
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:28:51 pm »
Dammit, pots.

I know, the one guy in the lineup that is a pleasure to watch

2646
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:25:35 pm »
Removed my pro-Altuve posts.  Didn't take long to jinx the guy

2647
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:05:38 pm »
Altuve to the training room

2648
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:03:33 pm »
shit

2649
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/24/12
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:00:37 pm »
Wow, so this Lowe guy has a perfect game through 3

2650
If they lose 106 games in a season, Jose Altuve will look like a good player.

You had me till Altuve

2651
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 05:37:18 pm »
Ballgame, CG for Keuchel.  Astros Win!!

2652
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 05:35:56 pm »
Runners on the corners with one out. No one up in the bully. Yet.

Milo said they got up after the leadoff double

2653
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 05:14:27 pm »
Altuve!!

2654
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 05:11:20 pm »
KEUCHEL COULD GO NINE TODAY.

Has anyone done that this year yet?

2655
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:21:53 pm »
SChreefer!!

2656
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:21:36 pm »
JD!!

2657
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:16:00 pm »
Wow, so this Gomez guy has held the Astros to 1 run through 4+

2658
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:14:31 pm »
Wow, so this Gomez guy has the Astros shut out through 4+

2659
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:13:59 pm »
Wow, so this Gomez guy has a perfect game through 4

Sorry had to do it

2660
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:13:07 pm »
Wow, so this Gomez guy has a perfect game through 4

2661
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 04:12:06 pm »
Yep. The whole ballclub is in the shits.

Offensively yes.  Pitching has been fantastic the last 3 games (and through the first half of this one)

2662
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 03:54:01 pm »
Another series, another no-hitter...

Any team ever been perfected more than once in a single year?

2663
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/23/12
« on: June 23, 2012, 03:53:22 pm »
Milo, he called it correctly, with the second pitch to JD as a strike called.  Then after ball 3, has the count as 3-0.  Then after a foul starts talking about how he was green lighted on 3-0.  Then DoRay jumps in and confirms it.  Do they even listen to themselves at all?

2664
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: June 22, 2012, 09:52:09 pm »
Both promotions on the bump tonight (Oberholtzer and Doran)

Neither pitched well, but both should get wins

2665
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/22/12
« on: June 22, 2012, 09:47:39 pm »
I predict that he's on his way to Sacramento to join their rotation. This'll be the last one they let him start for the Giants anytime soon.

He could use a start against Houston

2666
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/22/12
« on: June 22, 2012, 08:57:18 pm »
CJ has to get the runner to 3rd there.

2667
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/22/12
« on: June 22, 2012, 08:30:33 pm »
Over/under on Schafer strikeouts this season...300?

Doubt he can stay healthy long enough

2668
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Tribe @ Astros 06/22/12
« on: June 22, 2012, 07:24:35 pm »
WTF??????? Only the Astros could ground into a 4-3-6-2 double play to end an inning. Sheesh.

at least by grounding int a double play it only counts as 0 for 1 with RISP

2669
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Greeneville Astros - 2012
« on: June 22, 2012, 06:28:08 pm »
I still think they slotted him too low.  I'd like to see what he can do at Lex.

Not quite sure what he did last year to warrant a promotion

2670
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: June 22, 2012, 06:24:05 pm »
Both promotions on the bump tonight (Oberholtzer and Doran)

2671
Talk Zone / Re: Let's play match the stats!
« on: June 22, 2012, 03:13:20 pm »
I think he needs a change of scenery... Wandy for Tim!

2672
Talk Zone / Re: Small article on Maxwell in the local rag
« on: June 22, 2012, 01:03:00 pm »
Nasomuch red, there's quite a bit of sour creme to overcome.  It can go a little pink if you go heavy on the merlot.  Over time, that's the way my family has asked me to tweak it.

So you're saying the sauce is pink then

2673
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: BA Prospect Hot Sheet (2012)
« on: June 22, 2012, 12:39:47 pm »

Quote
No. 13 JARRED COSART, RHP
 ASTROS
 
Team: Double-A Corpus Christi (Texas)
Age: 22.
Why He's Here: 1-0, 0.00, 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 8 SO, 1 BB
The Scoop: Cosart's first full season in the Astros organization has not been a breeze. The hard-throwing righty came to Houston along with first baseman Jonathan Singleton in last July's Hunter Pence deal with the Phillies. Cosart allowed one run or fewer in five of his seven starts with the Hooks last season, but he had struggled to regain that form until his outing against San Antonio on Tuesday. He had yielded 12 earned runs over 18 innings in his previous three starts, but against the Missions he didn't give up an extra-base hit while allowing only one runner past second base.
 


2674
Talk Zone / Re: A Double Standard?
« on: June 22, 2012, 12:08:21 pm »
Sosa got 7 games for "accidentally" using a corked bat.  That's heftier than 8 games for a reliever

2675
Talk Zone / Re: Small article on Maxwell in the local rag
« on: June 22, 2012, 11:58:52 am »
That story about your foster daughter brought me to tears of joy. You, sir, are a real hero.

+1  Das, you're a rock star.

2676
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: June 22, 2012, 09:18:41 am »
Quote
Brett Oberholtzer has been promoted to Triple-A Oklahoma City.

http://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/215902752088391680

2677
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 22, 2012, 09:18:06 am »
Quote
It's official: RHP Bobby Doran promoted to @cchooks from Lancaster to replace the OKC-bound Brett Oberholtzer.

http://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/215932884891078656

2678
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/20/12
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:53:17 pm »
by my quick count, runners in scoring position: 1 for 12 with 7 Ks and 1 GIDP

2679
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/20/12
« on: June 20, 2012, 03:37:52 pm »
I might be forgetting, but has anyone been sent down to OKC due to lack of performance this season?

Downs, Carpenter, Abad

2680
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: June 19, 2012, 07:08:30 pm »
End of Folty's low-A career?  Allstar game: 2 innings 4 Ks.  The only blemish is an 0-2 HBP

2681
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: GCL Astros - 2012
« on: June 19, 2012, 06:30:18 am »
That is going to be quite a dynamic duo of Correa and McCullers (at least for a little while).

I believe OF Teoscar Hernandez is on the roster, too; he had a nice year for the DSL Stros last year, and I know I saw him named to a top prospects list for the league, by BA I thought, but I can't find it now.

Phillips is there as well

2682
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/18/12
« on: June 18, 2012, 10:09:33 pm »
KC has a pretty good BABIP this inning

2683
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/18/12
« on: June 18, 2012, 08:59:45 pm »

2684
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/18/12
« on: June 18, 2012, 08:55:37 pm »
Downsie out of the ballgame in favor of Bogusevic. Maybe he tweaked something?

JD thought he might have tweaked something heading down the line on the double play

2685
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/18/12
« on: June 18, 2012, 08:55:13 pm »
Well, not so fast.

Here's May for JD: .192 / .256 / .308

Here's June: .182 / .237 / .327

This was March / April: .282 / .411 / .449

And yet he still leads the team in RBIs by 7.  Lee has mustered a whole 25 rbis all year batting cleanup.  

If he wasn't coachable, a hard worker, heady player, sure send him down.  But I think he'll continue to work on things and get better.  

2686
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/18/12
« on: June 18, 2012, 08:44:11 pm »
You make a good point, but just think of how many JD has left out there. And now JD is 2-3. You see, it pays to dog him.

I don't think that is right since his stats are .171/.264/.288 with the bases empty.  So he is doing most of his damage with runners on.  Hence the RBIs

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Royals @ Astros 06/18/12
« on: June 18, 2012, 08:35:33 pm »
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm about ready to cut bait on Martinez.

I'm not.  He's a heady player with a good work ethic.  Oh and he leads the team in RBIs, by a significant margin

2688
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Tri-City ValleyCats - 2012
« on: June 18, 2012, 08:12:40 pm »
Good start for Velasquez.  5 innings, 2 hits, 0 BBs, 0 runs, 6 Ks

2689
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 04:55:16 pm »
Happy Father's Day. Cherish every moment. My boys pooped, peed and vomited all over me, and I loved it. Now they don't even talk to me and haven't for over a year.

Thought I got it all.  Rewashed her back with soap, had her all in a new onesie, all better.  Then when I was carrying her down stairs, something smelled funny.  There was poop in her hair.  Nice.  I think she's competing with Fernando

2690
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 04:50:53 pm »
Trying to figure out who took the biggest dump.  The Astros or my 5 month old that took out the onesie

2691
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 04:23:54 pm »
Just because you play like shit doesn't mean you have to just fucking give up, Bogey. That's the kind of horseshit that'll get you some time in OKC.

conveniently F.  Martinez is probably about to come off the dl


2692
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 04:16:28 pm »
Wow, maybe Luhnow can make up his mind about buying or selling now.

2693
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 03:58:06 pm »
I enjoy watching keuchel work.  He's going to need a nickname though because neither "Dallas" nor "keuchel" is going to cut it.  And, preemptively, "dallie" will not stand.

Lassie

2694
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 03:03:45 pm »
Would be really nice if the Stros offense gives Keuchel a few extra minutes

2695
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ stRangers 06/17/12
« on: June 17, 2012, 01:16:18 pm »
Welcome to the majors Keuchel, you're pitching against the Rangers in Arlington.

2696
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 17, 2012, 09:18:43 am »
Cisnero in his last four starts, spanning 25 innings, has only walked 2 batters. Pretty damn good for any pitcher, but absolutely incredible for him. Hopefully something has clicked.

ETA. For perspective, in his previous 22.1 innings, spanning 6 starts, he walked 17. 

5 good start in a row now.

2-hit CG SH last night.  Even survived a 9th inning 2 out error followed by a walk.  Struck out the last batter with pitch 118.  2 walks on the night including the one that came real late. 

2697
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 14, 2012, 07:08:07 pm »
Singleton and Lee batting 3rd and 4th tonight. Something poetic there I think

ETA:  First time through Singleton lines a base hit up the middle and Kabong!

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Oh [Mr] Happy Day, HOU at SFO, 6/14/12
« on: June 14, 2012, 05:06:01 pm »
6-3 headed into the 9th.  Think last years team could have won the next day after being perfed the night before?

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Oh [Mr] Happy Day, HOU at SFO, 6/14/12
« on: June 14, 2012, 03:35:32 pm »
JD!  SLAM.  Making them pay for the walks, like it

2700
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Giants 06/13/12
« on: June 14, 2012, 11:38:21 am »
I was laughing to myself about this afterwards - arguably the most historically significant game the team has ever played outside the year 2005 and there are like five of us watching and two of them live on the west coast. I hope Crane gets his TV money in advance.
I caught the last 3 outs on the mlb network

Not quite sure why from an Astros point of view that this game is historically significant.  The game itself was historically significant, and probably quite high on the Giants' list, but other than getting beat in the worst way possible, it's just another loss for the Astros.  For Astros historical games, it doesn't rate that high. IMHO anyways.  



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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 12, 2012, 10:12:53 pm »
Because I get sick and tired of reading about how bad the Astros farm system sucks

+1

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 12, 2012, 09:53:30 pm »
It's encouraging.  The depth of the organization seems to be filling back up.  Now we just need to see more guys start popping in the top 100 lists.  Right now I only think Correa, Singleton, and Springer would be on those, and all 3 probably higher than 25.

I think Folty will start to crack a few top 100 lists

2703
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 12, 2012, 09:32:37 pm »
The prospect pundits tend to agree that Correa would currently be ranked as the Astros top prospect, but for me its still Singleton.

If you believe in the hype and he plays a good SS, then I have to put him 1st.

The kicker for me was DeShields.  He has really put together a nice season and yet I had him fall a spot.

2704
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 12, 2012, 09:08:38 pm »
Coming into this season according to astros.com
1) Singleton
2) Cosart
3) Springer
4) Villar
5) Folty
6) Clemens
7) Oberholtzer
8 ) DeShields
9) Santana
10) Nash
11) Jordan Scott
12) Bushue
13) Wates
14) Chapman
15) Weiland
16) Buchanan
17) Tropeano
18) Juan Abreu
19) Zied
20) Kvasnicka


MHO after the draftee signings (only assuming the first 10 rounds):

1) Correa
2) Singleton
3) Springer
4) Folty
5) McCullers
6) Oberholtzer
7) Tropeano
8 ) Cosart
9) DeShields
10) Villar
11) Keuchel
12) Santana
13) Ruiz
14) Clemens
15) Wates
16) Fontana
17) Alaniz
18) Phillips
19) Cisnero
20) Kvasnicka
21) Rodgers
22) Mier
23) Houser
24) Nash
25) Duffy

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 12, 2012, 12:46:41 pm »
If they're willing to spend a little more heavily, the Astros can go up $360,000 over the cap limit without surrendering a future draft pick. They'd pay a tax of $270k on that overage (assuming it was indeed the full $360k), so it'd be pricey, but it might not be out of the question if that additional amount could bring in another one of the tough signs.

Where did you come up with 360k?  4.99% of 11,177,700 is 558k.  I was under the impression they could go over up to < 5% before surrendering a draft pick?

2706
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: June 12, 2012, 02:11:18 am »
Chowning not having a good start after his promotion, 10 hits and 4 walks over 3 innings

2707
Talk Zone / Re: You are the G.M.
« on: June 11, 2012, 09:49:39 pm »
At the beginning of the season, before he got injured, they were trying to move Rendon to short. Don't know if that's still the plan.

In that case, take back Paredes and thrown in Villar

2708
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: June 11, 2012, 09:28:02 pm »
Singleton, who had been 2 for his last 24, had a good night: 2 for 3 with 2 doubles and a walk.  Hopefully pulling himself out of the slump.  He did walk 7 times during his slump though. 

2709
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: June 11, 2012, 09:22:19 pm »
Springer on the other hand is getting his 3rd straight day off.  He was lifted from a game on Thursday after getting HBP.

Springer is back.  First AB, HR.

2710
Talk Zone / Re: You are the G.M.
« on: June 11, 2012, 09:14:38 pm »
[looks up 2012 stats for Clemens, Oberholtzer and Abreu]
[watches random collection of Schafer at bats]
[kicks dog]

here, for the dog's sake:
http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120611&content_id=33139278&notebook_id=33139288&vkey=notebook_hou&c_id=hou

2711
Talk Zone / Re: You are the G.M.
« on: June 11, 2012, 08:38:25 pm »
My understanding the Astros asked for Ross Detwiler plus a couple of others from the Nats, but the Nats turned them down.

This year I'd ask them for Rendon.  Blocked by Zimmerman.  Maybe even through in a Paredes.

2712
Talk Zone / Re: You are the G.M.
« on: June 11, 2012, 06:04:00 pm »
Just curious, why would you trade Wandy, but feel compelled to keep Myers?  I understand and agree with keeping them both, understand trading them both, but really don't understand why one should be traded and the other should not.  

My reasoning behind trading Wandy before Myers is that Myers has been helpful to other pitchers.  He has been a leader of the bullpen and has made it better than the individual parts.  That's something that a team rebuidling has a huge need for.  Other than being a good starter every 5th day, I don't see Wandy bringing anything else to the table that a rebuilding club can use. 

Remove Myers from the bullpen and we are back to last years bunch of misfits.  Remove Wandy from the starting rotation and every 5th day you have a weaker starter than what you had. 


2713
Talk Zone / Re: You are the G.M.
« on: June 11, 2012, 11:09:12 am »
I'd trade Wandy, Lee, and Lyon.  Wouldn't touch Myers unless blown away.  Include as much salary as Crane would let me. The trades would be for top level prospects only.    I'd include my own prospects in order to get the level of prospects I want.  For example, I'd thrown in Paredes or Villar into a Wandy deal that lands me a Singleton or above level prospect. 

No more, 4-5 midlevel prospect deals.  40 man is going to become difficult soon.  Rule V draft will soon be the enemy. 

2714
Talk Zone / Re: Schafer's futility
« on: June 11, 2012, 08:46:57 am »
And I may be the only person on the planet that thinks this but I don't find his home run bat flip out of line at all. It's an acknowledgement, sure, but it's always accompanied by his putting his head down and hurrying around the bases. If he were a second or third year player it would be a non-issue. If pitchers don't want to see him flip his bat they need to quit throwing him pitches that he hits 600 feet.

I agree.  His flip of the bat is about the equivalent of a fist pump from a pitcher after a K.  Plus the HBP that comes after it adds to his OBP.  So it has its bonuses.  I'm sure I'd hate it more if he played for the other team but there are far worse homerun celebratory actions. 




2715
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 04:19:42 pm »
So if Wally is still raking when Lee is ready, what happens?  Lee back to left?

2716
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 04:12:38 pm »
Myers, help please

Thank you Mr. Myers.  Ballgame, Astros win!!

2717
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 04:08:29 pm »
11-9 after that three-run jack.

AL ball.

You walk 2 with a 5 run lead in the AL?

2718
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 04:06:43 pm »
Myers, help please

2719
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 04:03:00 pm »
I assume Myers is warming up

2720
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 04:00:42 pm »
FeRod in for the ninth.

And promptly walks the first 2 guys.  Red ass to the mound

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 03:49:42 pm »
Only Lowrie without a hit...

Lowrie is buying

2722
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 03:31:11 pm »
How many multiple hit games does Altuve have now?  And does it lead the league?  (just counted, 27)  27 out of 56 starts

Melky Cabrera has 28

2723
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 02:59:14 pm »
Only Lowrie without a hit...

2724
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 02:52:42 pm »
Wally!

He seems to have more of an upper cut swing this time around

2725
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/10/12
« on: June 10, 2012, 02:24:26 pm »
6 of 22 hits have been homeruns

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 10, 2012, 09:12:00 am »
As mentioned on AstrosCounty, 23rd rounder Travis Ballew signed (according to himself):
https://twitter.com/Tballew18/status/211557894859145217


Tri-City:
https://twitter.com/Tballew18/status/211584962640625665

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Black Sox 06/09/12
« on: June 09, 2012, 03:51:48 pm »
Downs up, FeMart on the 7-day concussion DL because of a concussion he suffered at OKC. That would explain a lot.

That boy is cursed

2728
Talk Zone / Re: You are the G.M.
« on: June 08, 2012, 09:42:24 pm »
Myers can be replaced by Lyon or Lopez, so I'm guessing he gets moved.

if by replace you mean try to be a closer then yes.  Myers has made the bullpen better than they are.  You can't replace that.

2729
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 08, 2012, 01:02:55 pm »
Luhnow has repeatedly said he expects to sign the first 11 picks.  That would include Ruiz.  But not necessarily Variant or Hinojosa.  They also have stated the McCullers signing is hoped to occur during the next home stand which coincides with McCullers saying 2 weeks a couple of days ago.

2731
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Shitbirds @ Astros 06/06/12
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:12:03 pm »
That doesn't mane any sense. Why would you waste a fourth round pick?

They needed the cap to be able to sign their first 3 picks

2732
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Shitbirds @ Astros 06/06/12
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:03:12 pm »
That's a kid who loves the game.

Nah, just a college grad that gets to tell his son that he was drafted in the 4th round....shortly before making use of the business degree he earned.  Apparantly, a bunch of college seniors who probably otherwise go undrafted or are roster fillers getting used for cap room.

2733
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Shitbirds @ Astros 06/06/12
« on: June 06, 2012, 08:51:55 pm »
Toronto signed their 4th round pick with a 4 digit bonus

2734
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Shitbirds @ Astros 06/06/12
« on: June 06, 2012, 08:45:31 pm »
..and JD strikes out to end it.

Guess again

2735
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Shitbirds @ Astros 06/06/12
« on: June 06, 2012, 07:24:42 pm »
Spotting Wainright 3 runs is a good way to lose

2736
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Shitbirds @ Astros 06/06/12
« on: June 06, 2012, 07:21:16 pm »
Well Bud is ready for the AL

2737
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: June 06, 2012, 07:18:35 pm »
Armando Galarraga pitching for Lexington tonight

2738
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 01:42:12 pm »
And MLB.com says he was planning to head to UT in January but for whatever reason stayed in high school that last semester. I think we can go ahead and say he's not signing.

Could be back up in case one of the other tough sign drafts fail

2739
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 01:39:54 pm »
Just got done with a self-tortue Kieth Law video.  Says the new CBA rules didn't come close to adding parity.  Uses the fact Appel fell to 8th, and that several talented high schoolers fell to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds as his reasoning.  He says that it did not help the have-nots.  

WTF? excuse me?    Appel fell to the Pirates.  Are they not are card carrying member of the have-nots?  In the same conversation he mentioned the Astros got a few of the top 30 talented players.  I thought the Astros were 27th out of 30?  How does ths guy have a job?

2740
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 11:33:40 am »
Thanks for the clarification. 

My point in my head was, it is easier to learn correct English when you aren't surrounded by a slang use of it.  But it came out as bigoted

2741
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 11:15:38 am »
You don't see any Americans winning spelling bees

Sorry, this was a poor characterization.  They are Americans.  However I believe many of them learned English as a second or in a dual language household.  


2742
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: June 06, 2012, 10:56:06 am »
No talent in the farm system:

Quote
The Lexington Legends led their division in All-Stars, putting seven players on the team. The Asheville Tourists and Charleston RiverDogs each contributed five players. RiverDog catcher Gary Sanchez received more votes than any player on either team, and will be starting behind the plate.


2743
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 10:45:33 am »
Yes, I've seen people do that, too, which is why its confusing. If he got a 1560/1600 after only speaking English for 3 years he'd be up there with Barzilla.

You don't see any Americans winning spelling bees

2744
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:58:45 am »
Yes, it appears that Luhnow and company are doing a good job, but I don't get the "Ed Wade couldn't have done this."  It really wasn't rocket science:  a bunch of guys were relatively equal, play them against each other to get a good price, use the money saved for players other teams can't afford.  Most people do this in their lives every day.

Besides, we won't know if the scouting evaluations of these guys pan out for many years.  

Agree.  To further the point:
Castro then Lyles
Mier then Bushue
DeShields then Folty
Springer then Houser
Correa then McCullers

They drafted no differently.  The new rules just allowed for better picks throughout the draft


2745
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:15:24 am »
I don't mean to take a dig at Ed Wade and Tal Smith, but I don't know how to finish this post without doing so and still making my point.  

But can you imagine how this draft would've gone with them at the helm under the new rules?  Make fun of Luhnow, sabermetrics, etc. all you want but it seems like these guys were built to tackle complex situations like this.

Honestly the credit needs to go to the new CBA draft rules.  The Yankees and Red Sox can not buy guys like they could before.  This allowed Houston and other teams that had a bigger pool to get more talent than they could of in past years.  Don't get me wrong, what team Luhnow did with their allotment bordered on pure genius, but had this been last years CBA, it could not have been done. Mccullers was the best player available by far for many picks and only Houston had the money left to sign him.

I'm a huge fan of the new draft rules.  It eliminates the need for a salary cap.  

ETA: It is really isn't possible to compare a draft prior under the Wade regime with the Luhnow regime.  Though they are quite similar.  Up the middle guy first then high school arm.




2746
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 09:31:57 pm »
Why did Harrell hit for himself?

2747
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 09:15:05 pm »
4 for Altuve

2748
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 08:02:01 pm »
Maxwell is not doing it right by showing up the pitcher there, even if he got it all. I'd fucking throw at a hitter if he did that to me. Players today admire their shots, but that never happened when I played because pitchers would go hunting for anyone who did that. It just wasn't done.

Not backing up what Maxie did, but do you find it okay when a pitcher pumps his fist when he Ks someone?  Cause that happens all the time

2749
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 07:56:57 pm »
Alright Maxie!

2750
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 07:36:28 pm »
Nice little 2 out rally

2751
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 07:26:23 pm »
Nice 2 out hit JD

2752
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 06/05/12
« on: June 05, 2012, 07:22:51 pm »
Dang it Lowrie go the other way with a man on second and no outs

2753
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 05, 2012, 06:47:50 pm »
from mlbtr:

Quote

Astros Expect To Sign Correa By Thursday
By Zach Links [June 5 at 5:52pm CST]
General Manager Jeff Luhnow said that the Astros expect to sign first-overall pick Carlos Correa by Thursday, according to Brian McTaggart of MLB.com (via Twitter).  The high school shortstop was tabbed by Houston after the club also considered Stanford right-hander Mark Appel and other top prospects.

The deal is expected to be worth roughly $5MM, sources tell Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com.  The Astros were considering a few other options very late in the game as one source told Heyman that the decision "came down to the last thirty seconds.''
 

2754
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 05, 2012, 11:42:32 am »
The more money Appel gets, the better.  Less for the Longhorn commits the Pirates are drafting.

Have to actually sign those commits to get the extra money though

2755
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 05, 2012, 11:37:00 am »
Tweets last night said that Appel was shopping an $8MM price tag. Classic Boras.

Read an article this morning that said he was asking in the 6s. 

2756
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 05, 2012, 11:28:15 am »
I have no idea, but he is a four year senior. 

he's listed as JR on mlb

2757
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 05, 2012, 11:24:05 am »
Doesn't sound like a guy who would accept less than slot.  Must be they have enough for McCullers with what Correa will save them?

2758
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 10:26:48 pm »
This sure doesn't sound promising.

http://www.tampabay.com/hometeam/blog/when-talent-and-revamped-draft-collide-mccullers-l/14010/

Neither Perfect Game nor Baseball America has him in the top 10 picks. The reasoning has nothing to do with his talent, but everything to do with money and signability.
 
“It’s frustrating, the whole draft thing is frustrating,” McCullers said. “I’ve done nothing than get better since I’ve been ranked No. 1 forever, and no one in the country had a better year than me on the hill.
 
 “If Major League Baseball wants to undervalue me, then I’ll show them what I’m really about three years from now.”
 

That was Saturday, would like to hear what he has to say today.  And after the Astros make an offer. 

2759
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 10:16:41 pm »
From Astros Country:

Quote
his senior season he went 13-0 with a 0.18 ERA in 77IP, with 140K:30BB

2760
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 10:11:38 pm »
So compensation picks don't have the same rules as the first round?

They mentioned it right after the pick on mlb.tv

2761
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 10:11:11 pm »
I hope they know what they are doing. You know Satan will be using that as leverage.

I wonder if, for insurance so to speak, the Astros take some other signability guys later on.  You know, plan on nabbing two out of three for example. It would give them some leverage in the negotiation. 

They'll be able to get everything that doesn't cost the Stros a first round pick next year.  And if he doesn't sign, he'll have to risk a few years at college and hope he can come out as a top 7-8 guy.  

2762
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 10:03:53 pm »
Makes sense to me.  So, if he doesn't sign, is there a compensation pick next year for an unsigned supplemental pick?

Unfortunately, no

2763
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:59:21 pm »
You're 100% correct. Bora$ most certainly will start at $8M+ over allotment for that slot...

Doesn't matter what they ask for.  After Correa signs what ever is left he will be offered (plus maybe the 500k they can go over without losing a pick)

2764
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:57:50 pm »
That's the beauty of it... As an advisee, they'd talk to McCullers himself, no?!? 

First negotiation line to McCullers should be: Boras just cost Appel $3.9 M. Are you really going to let that guy tell you what to do?!?  [Maybe wishful thinking, but still...]

They said he wanted middle upper first round money.  That 3-3.5 million.  If Correa signs for 6 million, you have it

2765
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:55:31 pm »
McCullers rated #13 by BA. Doesn't sound too shabby. Good night indeed.

Hits upper 90s on the gun in HS

2766
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:49:47 pm »
Luhnow....we aren't worthy

2767
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:49:21 pm »
Holy shit they took Mccullers!

2768
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:47:09 pm »
And then there was one....

Yeah he fell!  Now will he fall farther....

2769
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:45:36 pm »
Just Tex and Philly left...

And then there was one....

2770
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:44:14 pm »
He falls, Bos, Mil, Tex, and Philly to go

Just Tex and Philly left...

2771
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:41:29 pm »
Cards are up, will Mccullers fall?

He falls, Bos, Mil, Tex, and Philly to go

2772
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:39:41 pm »
Cards are up, will Mccullers fall?

2773
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:30:45 pm »
Nice 1 minute speed round

2774
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:24:19 pm »
Callis implies on twitter McCullers most likely signable by team with supplemental pick.

They are assuming Cardinals due to their Sr pick in the first round

2775
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 09:13:52 pm »
Hensley off the board.  Mccullers still out there, 10 picks in the way

2776
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 08:57:07 pm »
Okay so the two comps I've heard are A-Rod and Tulowitzki.  I thought there wasn't a true 1-1 in this draft?

2777
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 08:44:04 pm »
15 picks in the way.  Hensley and Mccullers stil available

2778
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 08:36:52 pm »
This in intriguing:

Quote
Comment From spano23spano23: ]
Where do you think Lance McCullers goes?  
Monday June 4, 2012 9:20 spano23
9:20  Kiley McDaniel: No idea but only a few teams have the pool to sign him, possible spots are going fast.  
 

2779
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:31:04 pm »
Not sure what Appel might have refused for a bonus, but he's already down to 5.2 million.  Twins took Buxton

Mariners take Zunino.  Down to 4.2 milion.  Suck it Boras

2780
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:30:08 pm »
Follows the standard Heck draft.  Up the middle

2781
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:25:22 pm »
Not sure what Appel might have refused for a bonus, but he's already down to 5.2 million.  Twins took Buxton

2782
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:24:03 pm »
Who is he?

Best SS in the draft. 

2783
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:22:18 pm »
Quote
7:20  [Comment From laxtonto laxtonto: ]
I guess Appel didn't meet thier price?  
Monday June 4, 2012 7:20 laxtonto
7:20 Frankie Piliere: That's what I'm hearing  

Nice, extra cash for later if true

2784
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:20:23 pm »
A bit giddy after that pick. 

2785
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:16:44 pm »
Wow Correa

2786
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:11:17 pm »
Clock officially started

2787
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:09:31 pm »
Selig is just coming to the podium

2788
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 06:03:18 pm »
ticky ticky

2789
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 Draftees and Status
« on: June 04, 2012, 05:31:43 pm »
At exactly what point can they lock in a bonus offer to whoever is 1-1?  Can they do it now, after they draft them, not until a later date?

2790
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: June 04, 2012, 01:44:35 pm »
Was liking this Ty Hensley kid till he mentioned he was a Braves fan

Especially liked this one:
Quote
 [Comment From Fred Fred: ]
Ty, Do you tend to go right after hitters or rely more on out of the zone stuff to get strike 3?  
Monday June 4, 2012 2:37 Fred
2:38 Ty Hensley: My philosophy is to always attic hitters early no matter who it is. You can't be a true pitcher if you don't attack people especially early in the count.  

2791
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: June 04, 2012, 12:28:43 pm »
And don't the Astros hold nearly all the leverage here?  Hey kid, sign for 4 million, or good luck next year in the draft.  Assuming that if we didn't sign 1-1 this year, we would have 1-2 next year, which is likely to produce a slightly to much better prospect.  Although I am sure the mouth breathers would tar and feather Crane for being "cheap." 

Unless the prsopect is willing to sign early, you can't use the extra money on other picks.  The prospect would have you by the balls if you signed someone else above slot.    Outside of the first pick you have 4 million to spend, if you spend 4.5 million signing the rest of your prospects and the first guy doesn't sign then you've gone 12.5% over and lose your first and second round draft pick next year.  (not to mention an extra 500k penalty)

2792
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros 06/03/12
« on: June 04, 2012, 08:03:06 am »
Come on Mills, seriously?:
Quote
"It wasn’t any great science, but Maxie sure made it look good,” Mills said. “Not me. It was Maxie. He did a great job.”



2793
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros 06/03/12
« on: June 04, 2012, 07:45:29 am »
Quote
"For me, personally, that's been my Achilles' heel," Lyles said. "I'm either going to do well, and that's going to start from the first inning, or I'm going to give up a couple runs in the first inning. For me, all my efforts got to go into the first inning, that first hitter, get that first out. I did a decent job throwing the ball over the plate and Jason [Castro] really helped me through it. He called a great game."



2794
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: June 03, 2012, 09:07:43 pm »
Even though Springer, Santana and Nash only had 3 singles combined over the past 3 games, Jethawks scored 42 runs

2795
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: June 03, 2012, 09:01:29 pm »
Farm over the past 5 days: 18-2. 

2796
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros 06/03/12
« on: June 03, 2012, 04:05:48 pm »
Ball game.  Astros win!!

2797
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros 06/03/12
« on: June 03, 2012, 03:46:51 pm »
Not a good game for the Martini

2798
Talk Zone / Re: Tal's Hill
« on: June 03, 2012, 03:19:58 pm »
If anyone's going to get hurt out there, it'll certainly be him.

If they take out the hill, my money is he injures himself running into the wall

2799
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros 06/03/12
« on: June 03, 2012, 03:11:12 pm »
Farm is now 16-1 over the last 5 days.  DeShields with another 4 SB day

2800
Talk Zone / Re: Tal's Hill
« on: June 03, 2012, 11:38:40 am »
I could have sworn that somebody pulled a hammy or something making a play on the hill.

I don't remember anyone getting hurt.  A couple of spills, that's about it.

2801
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 03, 2012, 05:51:06 am »
And with 4 more wins tonight, the A level clubs are at 15-1 over the last 4 days

2802
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:53:25 pm »
Robothal on Astros (Seriously, I can't make shit like this up...):  (MLBTR LINK)

With several hard-to-trade veterans on the roster in Wandy Rodriguez, Carlos Lee and Brett Myers, the Astros might be well advised to trade second baseman Jose Altuve as a means to replenish their farm system...


This got to replenish the system crap is getting old.   They already had 3 of the top 100 prospects coming into the season.  I imagine Folty has added himself to that list.  And whoever the Astros take at 1-1 will give them 5 of the top 100 prospects.  Every A level club is now 500 or over with at least 2 starters and 2 position players that are major league level intriguing.  

And with 3 more wins tonight, the A level clubs are at 14-1 over the last 4 days

2803
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:20:35 pm »
Well, fuck.

This season went downhill fast.  Real fast

2804
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:05:23 pm »
Downs:
Ball, (CJ takes second), Ball, Ball, Strike Called(close), Foul, Foul, Strike - K, ball game

2805
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:02:42 pm »
Fernando:
Foul, Swinging Strike, Strike Called - K

2806
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 10:01:00 pm »
CJ:
Ball, Foul, Ball, (Brett Wallace just hit a GS against Hyphen), Ball, Ball - Walk

2807
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 09:58:58 pm »
JD:
Ball, Foul, Foul, Ball, Swining K

2808
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 09:55:30 pm »
Myers with a 1-2-3 9th.   Martinez, Johnson, Martinez to face Chapman 12-9 Reds

2809
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 09:29:50 pm »
This is a nobrainer, walk Votto

2810
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 08:13:52 pm »
CJ hits a tweener that the right fielder muffs, scoring Martinez.

Take it, pots.

Dinner about done, and wife is home...

2811
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 08:10:26 pm »
Johnson bloop single, 9-8 Astros.  Hadn't realized JD advanced

2812
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 08:08:16 pm »
New ballgame!

2813
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 08:07:11 pm »
JD!, damn it lowrie


JD 2 RBI single, Lowrie thrown out at the plate after a throw got away at third

2814
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:43:06 pm »
That's another reason I dropped down to 1 league this year.  In that one we all meet and draft live and the rosters are set WEEKLY.  Prevents both over- and under-managing...

Played one league, one year($25m league).  Will never play again.  Won the league easily, but the time that over management took was ridiculous.  No thanks, not enjoyable

2815
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:38:48 pm »
Double, review failed.  Still scored 2 though

2816
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:33:16 pm »
Fernando!!

2817
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:24:48 pm »
Milo DoRay just said strike 3 to Shreefer was in the dirt? 

2818
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:15:59 pm »
They are about to have Luhnow on. This week is really bringing them closer to another top pick.

Hopefully they ask about Fernando

2819
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:12:07 pm »
Any word on Lee yet?

They just mentioned that they don't know how long he will be out.  Lee is pretty stubborn when it comes to going on the DL

2820
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:10:13 pm »
Just think how good they'd've done during that stretch had they had a system that was rated better than 27 of 30...

Saw that article on ESPN.  Got annoyed.  

http://espn.go.com/mlb/draft/2012/story/_/id/7988586/houston-astros-first-year-general-manager-focused-job-ahead

Quote
In February, Law ranked Houston's farm system as the 27th best in the game. Baseball America was more charitable, ranking the Astros at 17th because of the prospects acquired in the Pence and Michael Bourn trades last summer.

This was kind of disturbing too:

Quote
"I hear other organizations say you need five to eight drafts to really turn things around,'' Luhnow said. "I feel like there's a lot of pressure to do it in one draft. That's not going to happen. But we are picking first, and this might be the last time we pick first, and there's an opportunity to pick the most elite talent in the country this year. Those opportunities don't come around too often.



Would have preferred Luhnow to say the farm isn't in that bad of shape

2821
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 07:04:00 pm »
In more positive Astros news, the minor leagues are 11-1 over the last 3 days

2822
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:59:03 pm »
I think that is a gracious description. I saw it as a complete brain fart. He didnt rush over to tag the runner, just went to step on the base.  Just like when he failed to cover last week. His mind was somewhere else.

Sorry, second hand through DoRay.  He did say he stepped on the bag, but assumed he would have tagged him

2823
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:53:55 pm »
I'm stuck with watching the Giants/FTC. What did he do this time?

I'm having to listen to the audio, but he went to second to try and get Hanigan scrambling back, then went to first, rushed it and bounced it.  Downs unable to coral

2824
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:50:13 pm »
Altuve overthinks it sometimes.  2 outs, who cares if the runner gets to third

2825
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:39:49 pm »
Lowrie! 394'

Not just leading the team in HRs, he's running away with the title

2826
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:37:48 pm »
Lowrie! 394'

2827
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:32:46 pm »
he gave up runs, now he should be traded?  Okay.

No, now his value is dropping and will less likely to be traded.  I think you missed the not

2828
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU vs. CIN, 06/02/12
« on: June 02, 2012, 06:24:38 pm »
Well those that wanted Wandy not to be traded, he's well on the way to that

2829
Talk Zone / Re: Buck to dl; fernando fernandomartinez called up
« on: June 02, 2012, 05:16:43 pm »
Probably permanent if he does well:

Quote
"Brian McTaggart ‏@brianmctaggart
Astros manager Brad Mills says Fernando Martinez not coming here to sit. More to come later."

2830
               
Lancaster Top of the 1st
Ben Orloff grounds out, second baseman Garrett Weber to first baseman Jonathan Griffin.
George Springer singles on a ground ball to third baseman Eric Groff.
Erik Castro singles on a ground ball to center fielder Keon Broxton. George Springer scores.
Domingo Santana walks. Erik Castro to 2nd.
Telvin Nash called out on strikes.
Enrique Hernandez singles on a fly ball to right fielder Bobby Borchering. Erik Castro scores. Domingo Santana to 3rd.
Alex Todd strikes out swinging.


No error, no stolen base, how did Springer score from first on a single?

2831
Talk Zone / Re: Measure everything in an "Altuve"
« on: June 01, 2012, 11:23:13 am »
Another benefit to Fernando Martinez would be sticking it to the Mets one last time.  

It's already happening and he hasn't had a mlb plate appearance yet:
http://mets360.com/?p=10717

This was their prized stallion.  Their can't miss prospect.  Rated highly among all prospects for many years:
Pre-2007: Rated #22 Prospect
Pre-2008: Rated #20 Prospect
Pre-2009: Rated #30 Prospect
Pre-2010: Rated #77 Prospect

And they got nothing from him.  Not a darn thing.   If he was to start a successful career at the age of 23 with another team, it will eat at them for years.  An early blemish on their new regime.  

2832
Talk Zone / Re: Measure everything in an "Altuve"
« on: June 01, 2012, 09:28:10 am »
+1 We need to find out what we have. I understand the frustration over Bogusevic's anemic output thus far at the plate though.

I would assume Bogusevic's days as a major leaguer are numbered.   Fernando Martinez is having a pretty good year in AAA (a better one than Brian ever had there).   F-Mart with a 4 year advantage on Bogusevic as well(yes Bogusevic had a 3 year delay in development, but father time won't care).  The biggest question with F-Mart is his health, he saw significant bench time last week which I can only assume was something lingering, but he played and got a triple last night (can't be too bad).   If anything it would give the Stros JD Martinez in left and JF Martinez in right.  A Schreefer sandwich on Martinez.  And if the knee will be a future issue, the Astros have a positioning opening next year that doesn't require knees.

2833
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Brian Bass a RedHawk
« on: May 30, 2012, 08:29:43 am »
OK, raise your hand if you've never ever heard of Brian Bass...

He's the guy that symbolizes that no one will be rushed through the Astros system.

2834
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: May 30, 2012, 08:17:50 am »
I do not recall the bonus ... he is a Cuban defector signed before the season last year.

Found it, $250,000 and an inviite to major league camp. 


2835
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: May 29, 2012, 09:05:12 pm »
Keuchel with a complete game shutout

2836
Beer and Queso / Re: Memorial Day movie watching
« on: May 29, 2012, 08:37:15 pm »
Also caught as non-funny Willis war movie, Hart's War.  Movie loses a lot the second time around

2837
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: May 29, 2012, 08:20:57 pm »
JC Thompson

Is this the guy that got the big bonus to sign last year?

2838
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Dodgers 05/27/12
« on: May 27, 2012, 03:54:56 pm »
Wow, Happ only through 22 pitches that inning.  Least for a starter the last 2 days?

2839
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 27, 2012, 03:49:48 pm »
From Levine: Astros’ big draft question: Who’s No. 1?

Didn't realize this:
Quote
Penalties for going over budget — which can be done “accidentally” should a team envision going under slot on a player who doesn’t sign — include severe financial levies and forfeiture of future picks.

Is it true that you lose the slot money if you don't sign a player?  Pretty much eliminates not signing a guy to add more money to another.

2840
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Dodgers 05/27/12
« on: May 27, 2012, 03:40:27 pm »
What is Capuano doing with an ERA in the low 2s?

2841
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Dodgers 05/26/12
« on: May 26, 2012, 10:52:20 pm »
I got married.

Technically you have grounds for divorce then

2842
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Dodgers 05/25/12
« on: May 25, 2012, 09:54:23 pm »
JD!!

2843
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: May 25, 2012, 08:56:04 pm »
Wates starting tonight. 

2844
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: May 25, 2012, 11:33:15 am »
Is Wates hurt?  

I have no first hand knowledge but it appears to me that the minor league escalator has slowed a bit.  Maybe they are making sure that the player achieves what they want achieved before the graduate them.  Sounds like Springer has a lot of work on his approach to hitting, and maybe mechanics (based on the Klima piece).

As stated in the Hooks thread, pinch run for after HBP.  No word of extent

2845
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 25, 2012, 09:29:50 am »
Yup. You get the pick right after the slot at which you didn't sign the player. If the Astros don't sign 1-1 this year, they'll get 1-2 next year.
The best player that the Cubs don't want

2846
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: May 25, 2012, 09:28:36 am »
So when do we see Springer in Corpus.  June? July?

If Wates is hurt...

2847
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 24, 2012, 12:24:44 pm »
"if you draft my guy, we're going to need more than slot, so be prepared to draft a below-slot guy(s) elsewhere to free up more cash". But I agree that it's hard to see Appel/Boras having that kind of leverage when we're talking about the 1/1 pick. Of course, Boras has overplayed his hand before (see Madson, Ryan, among others).

This would be pretty insane given each slot for the first 4 slots drops a million.  If the Stros don't take you then the Twins are already working with a million dollar less slot, the Mariners at a 2 million deficit.  

2848
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:59:05 am »
Not that I disagree with your overall statement or not...  Just wanted to remind: Boras has gotten a whole lot more for less (so to speak), and if there is someone who can manufacture negotiation power it is him.

Off the top of my head, Boras can say 'either you sign my guy above slot or I make sure that the HOU 'fan'base understands that you are just Drayton-lite (cheap and have no interest in spending on amateur talent).  That your only interest is in gate revenue.  Blah, blah, blah. He'll certainly have the 'support' of the talking heads... You think if HOU doesn't sign their 1-1 that folks like Pinwheel would EVER let then slide for it, no matter how legitimate the reason?

It's not just a matter of being cheap this year.  You lose draft picks if you go over.  Whole new ball game.  If they over pay for Appel and are not able to sign 2-3 of their other picks because of that (or next years draft picks as a penalty) there will be just as much bad press.   

2849
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:36:59 am »
Boras has his work cut out for him.  The rules are pretty simple, quantity versus quality.  You have to sacrifice current or future draft picks to over pay.  You would have to have a Harper/Strasburg type of player to be willing to sacrifice quantity.  Given how ridiculously hard it is to predict a prospects future, quantity is going to be real tough to pass on.   


2850
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 24, 2012, 09:43:39 am »
I'm not saying you don't start below 7.2 (or whatever the max is you are willing to spend) and negotiate back up.  That is certainly an option.  There is two good ways to negotiate.  

One is to offer your best offer and make that made clear.   This usually is accompanied with a deadline and possible penalties for not accepting within that timeline. 

The other is to start low and be willing to go negotiaite up to your best offer.

The second option is nicer in that you may save some cash and the player may feel like he won by getting more than the initial offer.  The first tends to be faster and with less unknowns.  Given they have a time limit and spending limit to sign those first 10 guys, I'd lean towards option 1.


2851
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 24, 2012, 09:15:23 am »
I agree somewhat.  I think the problem we'll face is having honest negotiations before the draft.  In theory, we have the most money to offer with our first pick, based on the slot.  The Twins have the most total dollars, but more picks to sign.  Right now, we can say we're willing to offer this, but we're having to make a decision on who to draft partly based on good faith.  The advisor can say they're willing to sign for x number of dollars, but all that is doing is trying to make the player more attractive to the team.  Once the player is drafted, it doesn't matter anymore; we've selected the player, we can't go back.  If Boras (or other shady advisor) decides to tack on an extra $1.5M to the bonus demands, all we can do is try to negotiate the price down.  Sure, no one wins if we walk away, but we really don't want it to come to that.  

Sorry, not buying it.  You offer slot and then you have 4 million to sign 10 other guys.  1.5 million extra will cause the Stros to have to not sign others.  Appel has absolutely no negotiating power to expect more than slot.  He's not a can't miss superstar 1/1.  

You say, you've earned the right to be 1/1 and we'd love to have you as part of the Astros organization.  We'll offer the full slot to you as respect for what you have accomplished.  Here is your time limit, after that the offer will be lower.  Maybe throw in a few more complements in there if you like.



2852
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 24, 2012, 08:17:25 am »
I really don't see how a guy like Appel has anything to negotiate with.  If you take him 1/1 and offer him the slot money, what is he going to do?  Say no and go back to college for another year.  Chances of him getting 1/1 again are pretty much slim and none.   So the chances of him being offered 7 million again are pretty much nil.  He'd have to be a complete moron not to take the offer. 

2853
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 23, 2012, 10:20:11 pm »

Chris (San Fran): If the Astros take Buxton will he immediately become the top prospect in the Astros organization over Singleton and Cosart?

Jim Callis: Yes.[/i]

umm, wow.  That's a statement.  Singleton doing quite well at AA.  Springer is doing well at Lancaster.  Buxton is in high school.

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 09:43:58 pm »
JD with a rip up the middle, 3-1 Stros

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 09:35:52 pm »
Insurance run would be nice

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 09:13:47 pm »
Sigh of relief there.  fast ball above the head, curveball that bounces short of the plate and a fast ball over the middle that Castro line out ro right.  Close the book on Wandy, good night for him

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 09:08:02 pm »
Wandy seems to be tiring

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 09:03:51 pm »
Bad call, ball hit bat, called hit batter.  Should have been 0-2

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:59:25 pm »
Likely Wandy's last inning given his pitch count and leading off next inning

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:58:40 pm »
In case anyone was wondering how stupid I am -

My second son Max was born Friday (everyone doing great). I decided having two kids under 20 months old wasn't exciting enough, so I took a job in New York and will be moving the whole operation up there this summer.of course, just closed on a house in Dallas at the end of Feb (is anyone looking for a place?)

Congrats.  City or upstate?

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:49:33 pm »
Lee went after Milo again before stroking a single

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:48:08 pm »
Wandy schools Hill with breaking ptches with the pitcher on deck

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:20:22 pm »
Great play by Barney knocking that ball loose

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:19:15 pm »
Perfect placement

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:10:32 pm »
Buck and Lee hit it hard last time through...

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 07:59:08 pm »
Nice AB by Altuve

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 07:49:08 pm »
2 real good pitches to finish off Soriano

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 07:44:57 pm »
Sweet play by Lowrie

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 05/23/12
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:58:28 pm »
Here are your starting lineups:

FTC
RFDavid DeJesus
CFReed Johnson
SSStarlin Castro
LFAlfonso Soriano
3BJoe Mather
1BJeff Baker
2BDarwin Barney
CKoyie Hill
PJeff Samardzija

Astros
2B Jose Altuve  
SS Jed Lowrie  
RF Travis Buck  
1B Carlos Lee  
CF Brian Bogusevic  
3B Chris Johnson  
LF J.D. Martinez  
C Jason Castro  
P Wandy Rodriguez  


Wandy better keep the ball down

edit: but not too far down

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Talk Zone / Re: Time to play "Find the factual errors!"
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:30:11 pm »
Was he an Astro fan?  Atlanta has a lot of annoying fans everywhere

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Talk Zone / Re: Time to play "Find the factual errors!"
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:26:27 pm »
Berkman's grand slam ball is the other one.  Had to be, it was the only other one hit to left

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Talk Zone / Re: Time to play "Find the factual errors!"
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:25:20 pm »
And it was the 18th

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Talk Zone / Re: Time to play "Find the factual errors!"
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:23:27 pm »
Ausmus's hit just above a Yellow line on a brick wall and rebounded back into play

2874
Talk Zone / Re: Swan Song for Big Puma?
« on: May 23, 2012, 12:32:26 pm »
Not to hijack this Carlos Lee love-fest, but I read the Jon Heyman Berkman article yesterday.   Bad mistake I know.   The title of the article, "If this is it for Berkman, it ends an underappreciated career", sounded a little promising that it might contain something positive about the Astros, but it soon became clear the article's purpose was to take every chance to criticize the Astros.
Heyman commonly interjects his opinion into his articles, so him not including his own endorsement leaves the reader to infer Heyman does not feel Bagwell belongs in the Hall.  But I let that slide for a minute as just an opportunity lost for Heyman.
So Berkman is always right unless he is trying to say something supportive about Houston.   Got it.  

"Hey Astros fans ... you know that World Series you remember so fondly?  Well, you got lucky.  That team sucked.  That was a miracle fluke.  And no I will not give you the courtesy of a reach around."

3 Aces and Qualls-Wheeler-Lidge to close the game. 

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 5/22/12
« on: May 22, 2012, 09:54:51 pm »
Wow, great job by the Regulators tonight.  3 IP, 7 Ks

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: May 22, 2012, 09:13:49 pm »
Whose ass does Chowning have to kiss/kick to get promoted.   He did real well last year and this year has been downright awesome.  He's 24 and probably should be playing with his own age group.

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 5/22/12
« on: May 22, 2012, 08:27:41 pm »
Nice play by the evil Castro?
DoRay had an orgasm

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 5/22/12
« on: May 22, 2012, 08:05:59 pm »
That's why I like Snyder so much. Our Castro is too meek. Catchers are supposed to be tough.

Castro is a little to green for this yet

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: FTC @ Astros 5/22/12
« on: May 22, 2012, 07:57:08 pm »
Good job by Snyder.  After a 4 pitch walk to Reed then ball 1 to Castro, said something to Happ.  Happ attacks the strike zone and Ks Castros on 3 more pitches

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Talk Zone / Re: I do not agree with this articel
« on: May 22, 2012, 05:57:00 pm »
sounds like a kind of laxative...maybe in the vein of major league use the bullpen with product placement

When your start is serving up nothing but meatballs and is about to shit the bed, call on the Regulators!

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Talk Zone / Re: I do not agree with this articel
« on: May 22, 2012, 05:38:10 pm »
Wandy is definitely peeking.  If you are going to sell, now is the time to do it.  Just don't sell cheap.    The nucleus of the next good Astros team is still in the minors.  It's okay to trade aging talent.  

Especially a guy that isn't exactly a clubhouse leader.  I'd rather they kept Myers then Wandy.  Myers is the sole reason the bullpen is better.  He is the captain of the regulators.  

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Talk Zone / Re: I do not agree with this articel
« on: May 22, 2012, 05:35:36 pm »
I really don't have a clue where they will finish this year.  However, I hope they don't deal Wandy.  I understand rebuilding, but at some point rebuilding has to turn into building.  Wandy has been a solid starter for the Astros, and they have him at a fair price for the next two years.  Just keep him and continue to build.  

Wandy is definitely peaking.  If you are going to sell, now is the time to do it.  Just don't sell cheap.    The nucleus of the next good Astros team is still in the minors.  It's okay to trade aging talent.  

edit:
or at least a good portion of the next good Astros team

2883
Talk Zone / Re: MLB College Graduation Rate
« on: May 18, 2012, 02:21:41 pm »
You seem focused just on the few professional ballplayers who even make it for one day to the show. What of all of the minor league washouts? I don't think that there are any "lifetime" benefits for those players. I'm not sure of what benefits there are to big leaguers, but I would wager a fair amount of money that one has to vest in something before those benefits kick in.

Completing a degree takes many more than 4 years when done part time.  If you had some stats on how many big leaguers started working on a degree while in the minors and stopped, that might be worth something.  Making it to the bigs is kind of like hitting the lottery.  You usually change your plans when it happens. 

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Talk Zone / Re: MLB College Graduation Rate
« on: May 18, 2012, 01:09:15 pm »
Ask anyone who has ever gone back to school. It's very hard to do. That's why I always advise people to gut it out and finish while they've got the education momentum and inertia.

You are talking about big leaguers.  You're either in your 30s and have finally made the club as a bench player, or are in your 20s and are expecting/hoping to make more cash in the next decade then you will ever need in your life.

Not to mention fame of being major leaguer which will open doors to jobs without that piece of paper.

Plus isn't their some sort of lifetime benefits with that union?



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Talk Zone / Re: MLB College Graduation Rate
« on: May 18, 2012, 12:47:19 pm »
You need a degree for the 40-50 or so years of your life after baseball.


Quote
4% of current big league ball players

not 4% of all people who ever played on a big league club.  You don't have to be in your early 20s to get a degree. 

2886
Talk Zone / Re: MLB College Graduation Rate
« on: May 18, 2012, 11:31:56 am »
Not surprised at all by 4%.  If you make 400k a year minimum, what do you need a degree for?  

Plus the NFL has no minor league system.  You are vastly much better off playing on a college team than getting your arse kicked on a practice squad.  

2887
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: May 17, 2012, 10:00:00 am »
From the BA article: This is in no way a prediction of which teams will win minor league titles this year. Instead, it's a look at which teams feature the most prospect star power, with particular weight being given to elite Top 100 Prospects.

I think they made the list because Singleton/Cosart/Villar/Oberholtzer are on the team, not due to its overall strength.

True but the comment for the team was this:
Quote
It has been a long time since the Astros could assemble enough talent to fill a roster like this, but last year's trades have helped make up for the organization's minor league talent deficiency. 1B Jonathan Singleton (No. 34) and RHP Jarred Cosart (No. 50) both came over in last summer's Hunter Pence trade. Fellow Phillies' pickups SS Jonathan Villar ahd RHP Josh Zeid are joined by ex-Brave LHP Brett Oberholtzer on what may be the Astros' most talented minor league club in a decade.
 

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: May 17, 2012, 08:38:44 am »
Corpus Roster rated #8 out of top 10 MILB rosters by BA to start the season:


Figures the Hooks are the only Astros minor league team to be below 500.  More of a congrats to Lancaster and Lexington there though.  Nice turn around on their seasons. 

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: May 16, 2012, 12:50:13 pm »
I'm not down on Delino. He is still young and still learning a new position. All indications are that he's making good progress and has a great tool in +speed.  

I am a bit.  I remember wanting a Sale.  And still would rather have a Sale.  

2890
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: HOU at PHI, 05/14/12
« on: May 14, 2012, 08:57:28 pm »
I think that they're close to sending him down to OkC. He's been really lost lately and is pressing.

8 games, that was how long his slump lasted before he got pulled from the lineup.  I could see moving him down in the order, but axed all together so fricken Buck could start.  Yeah, Buck who hasn't done a damn thing as a starter.  If it wasn't for Buck's at bats as a pinch hitter, he may have been let go at this point.

2891
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Pirates Mother's Day
« on: May 13, 2012, 02:52:16 pm »
I can understand why Millsie is sticking with Wandy, but he might get second guessed on not pinchhitting for Wandy with a rested bullpen.

Wandy has thrown 71 pitches.  CG not out of the question. 

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: 2012 draft
« on: May 12, 2012, 06:51:33 am »
I think you have your jones' mixed up.  That was Chad Jones who the Astros drafted and decided to go to LSU as a DB and play baseball as well. 

I remember it being Jacoby, every serach you had to weed through wide receiver articles

2893
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: May 12, 2012, 06:50:23 am »
Henceforth May 11 shall be forever more known as "Springer Day".

Top Prospect Alert ‏ @MinorLeagueBlog
#Astros George Springer has hit 3 HOME RUNS in Game 2 of a Doubleheader at High-A Lancaster. He's got 4 HR's on the day. 8 on the year.
  LINK

Game 1 BOX SCORE;  Game 2 BOX SCORE.

In the second game all 3 HRs came off the same guy.  Burn me once, burn me twice, burn baby burn

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fish @ Astros 05/09/12
« on: May 09, 2012, 11:12:09 pm »
Maybe I'm projecting, but it would have been nice to have the confidence to throw a slider in the dirt with a runner on 3rd

Would have been nice not to walk Buck (twice)

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fish @ Astros 05/09/12
« on: May 09, 2012, 11:08:58 pm »
So who's the first pitcher to bat?  Wandy? J.A.?

I'd guess Happ

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fish @ Astros 05/09/12
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:43:01 pm »
Buck needs to take his pinch hitting strategy to the plate with him more often.  2 extra base hits in 45 PAs when starting, 3 in 8 when pinch hitting. 

2897
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fish @ Astros 05/09/12
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:10:05 pm »
Odd Castro didn't get slated in the 9 hole

2898
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Fish @ Astros 05/09/12
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:08:53 pm »
Myers not rattled.  Finish them

2899
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dipshits @ Los Astros Cinco de Mayo
« on: May 05, 2012, 09:21:40 pm »
where are the  nay sayers now?

Here's one for you:

Quote from: dipshit
They were looking strong with wins in five of six games and then went out and lost two straight to the Astros. That's an automatic deduction, like spelling your name incorrectly on the SATs. By the way, has anyone ever actually confirmed that's true? Who can't spell his/her own name? I bet it's even easy for Kirk Nieuwenhuis.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/powerrankings

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dipshits @ Los Astros Cinco de Mayo
« on: May 05, 2012, 08:51:27 pm »
Wow, 2 teams come in having won 5 of their last 6 and the Stros win both series.  +21 run differential now

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Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dipshits @ Los Astros Cinco de Mayo
« on: May 05, 2012, 08:45:54 pm »
So who had Lowrie leading the team in HRs?

2902
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dipshits @ Los Astros Cinco de Mayo
« on: May 05, 2012, 06:46:07 pm »
Good job Bud, get Garcia right back out there after his 40 pitch inning

2903
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dipshits @ Los Astros Cinco de Mayo
« on: May 05, 2012, 06:36:15 pm »
Garcia's ERA jumped a point on 1 pitch

2904
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Dipshits @ Los Astros Cinco de Mayo
« on: May 05, 2012, 06:35:10 pm »
CJ with atonement

2905
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 5/4/12
« on: May 04, 2012, 10:06:43 pm »
That walk makes it so Holliday definitely bats in the 9th

Myers doesn't care.  Ball game.  Beautiful start to the series

2906
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 5/4/12
« on: May 04, 2012, 09:58:29 pm »
Shreefer's last chance to continue his on base streak...
Got it

2907
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 5/4/12
« on: May 04, 2012, 09:51:38 pm »
Shreefer's last chance to continue his on base streak...

2908
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Astros 5/4/12
« on: May 04, 2012, 09:50:33 pm »
That walk makes it so Holliday definitely bats in the 9th

2909
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: stem at astro may 2
« on: May 02, 2012, 01:56:51 pm »
According to the box score, CJ smacked a 3 run jobin the bottom of the second.  it's 3-0 mid 3rd

2910
Talk Zone / Re: C'mon Snyder
« on: May 02, 2012, 12:07:41 pm »
No!  You run.  It's in play potentially, and you don't know what's going to happen.

No way that ball ends up in play

2911
Talk Zone / Re: C'mon Snyder
« on: May 02, 2012, 11:39:58 am »
Looked like he was admiring it.

Watch it again and assume he is quietly excited but doesn't know if it is going to go foul or not.  His demeanor fits that bill as well.

2912
Talk Zone / Re: C'mon Snyder
« on: May 02, 2012, 11:37:07 am »
At least to me, it didn't look like it was that close to foul.  Looked like he was admiring it.

Walked the video in slow mo.  It looks like it hit the wall to the just left of middle of the arch left of the crawford boxes, which I think puts it hitting the wall in foul territory and therfore had to hook around the poll.  So either it's foul and Snyder needs to get back in the batter's box or a HR and he needs to travel around the bases on an acceptable pace.  I think you should be allowed to watch if it's fair before running the bases on a ball that is in doubt.

2913
Talk Zone / Re: C'mon Snyder
« on: May 02, 2012, 11:14:28 am »
Quote from: Snyder
"I knew I got it," Snyder said. "It was right down the line, so definitely I was just checking to see if it would go fair or foul."
 


So the question is, are you allowed to stay near home and watch if it could go foul?

2914
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 5/1/12
« on: May 02, 2012, 09:23:28 am »
+1  Who was the idiot that said after the first exhibition game that he didn't think Myers would make us happy at closer?  Idiot.

LIFY

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The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Corpus Christi - 2012
« on: May 01, 2012, 09:55:16 pm »
Aw crap

Quote
Corpus Christi Top of the 1st
Austin Wates grounds out, shortstop Dusty Coleman to first baseman Anthony Aliotti.
Jake Goebbert grounds out, first baseman Anthony Aliotti to pitcher Gary Daley.
Jonathan Singleton hit by pitch.
Offensive Substitution: Pinch runner Jordan Kreke replaces Jonathan Singleton.

Anybody know anything about this?

2916
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 5/1/12
« on: May 01, 2012, 09:53:12 pm »
Whose idea was to move Myers to closer?  Brilliant.  Collective fan base stress level has dropped considerably.  Astros win.  Love watching Myers close

2917
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 5/1/12
« on: May 01, 2012, 09:19:20 pm »
You better be ready to hit when Lopez is on the mound

2918
Talk Zone / Re: More History
« on: May 01, 2012, 02:24:32 pm »
According to somebody named Steve Grande:  According to Elias: Last night, the Astros became the 1st team in MLB history to use 7 different pitchers against 7 consecutive hitters.

The method behind Mills' madness*?




*I do not actually think Mills is mad.  

It was also stated that it was the first time ever that 5 different pitchers faced only 1 batter for the same team.  And that combined with the 2 Mets pitchers who performed the same feat in the game, set the record for a single game from both teams

2919
Talk Zone / Re: altuve last night
« on: May 01, 2012, 02:20:29 pm »
How is bunt success rate established?  If a player attempts to bunt, but fouls off the first 2 and swings away after that, does that effect bunt rate?  Or is it 60% of all bunted balls in play moved the runner over?  Does striking out attempting to bunt count in the rate?

Dickey is pretty tough against opposing runners, the first one is easily understood.  Dickey was dominating at the time and small ball seemed like the only was to get anything done.  That being said, Mr The Altuve is currently your best hitter, it's also easy to see the argument against it.  Even easier with the attempt in the bottom of the 8th.





2920
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 10:02:49 pm »
Myers is a breath of fresh air.  Astros win.  Good job

2921
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:45:26 pm »
I think that he turned a switch hitter around. Still, he's had three outings where he walked the only hitter he faced.

Yes, but he has succeeded 4 times as well.  If you bring him in to face Duda you give Wesley an oppurtunity to settle down.

Doesn't matter.  I like Mills.  Willing to be wrong to make myself feel better.

Good job Lowrie!

2922
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:39:18 pm »
I counted three times this season.

I think one was a switch

2923
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:35:48 pm »
Wow. Abad just isn't good.

That is for certain

2924
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:34:34 pm »
But he's walked three lefty hitters as his only batter to get,, so those stats are a little misleading. If you don't have confidence in a guy to throw strikes with no where to put him, then you don't put him in.

He's walked 2 lefties

2925
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:27:32 pm »
0 for 12.  Lefties versus WW.  If you won't use him in that situation then you will never use him.

Correction 0-13

2926
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:24:58 pm »
I don't bring in WW at all. That's my point.

0 for 12.  Lefties versus WW.  If you won't use him in that situation then you will never use him.

2927
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:19:46 pm »
Not really that easy. Would you trust WW with the bases loaded? Not me. I'd be scared that he would do his normal nibbling and walk in a run.

If your that worried about the walk then bring in WW to face Duda

2928
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:18:40 pm »
What's your solution? WW? Abad? It's a crapshoot at best to get in the bullpen.

When your pitcher runs out of gas, you go with a fresh arm and pray.

2929
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:09:47 pm »
I don't get Mills, easy call to pull Norris

2930
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:06:19 pm »
Come on Mills WTF?

2931
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:02:58 pm »
thet are going to need a catch a line drive to get out of this inning

2932
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:00:35 pm »
Nice block by Castro there

2933
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:57:50 pm »
You can't call that a hit

2934
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:42:15 pm »
Downtowns

2935
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:34:39 pm »
Dickey is going to no-hit this team tonight. Especially if they keep helping him out. It'll be the first Met no-hitter.

well played sir

2936
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:30:24 pm »
The partial safe call was because he jumped back in time but planted himself into the ground and didn't make the bag right away

2937
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:16:44 pm »
Bud is on to something.  Wear out Dickey by making him swing that tree a dozen times

2938
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 08:04:02 pm »
Another sequence to the master plan, fall and throw at batter's head

Wright wasn't about to get to the low and away slider after that one

2939
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 07:50:11 pm »
Over/under on WPs a night if Castro or Snyder was catching Dickey...7?

2940
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: steM @ Astros 4/30/12
« on: April 30, 2012, 07:43:04 pm »
Huh, Brett Oberholtzer gets the start for OKC tonight

2942
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Queen City 'Chili' Gobblers
« on: April 30, 2012, 09:52:49 am »
You raise an  excellent point about why Lyles hit for himself leading off in the top of the 7th but didn't pitch in the bottom of the inning. My hunch is that Millsie  or Brocail asked him how he was feeling and didn't like the answer after he'd thrown 95 pitches through six innings. He would have faced Hanigan, a pinch hitter for Latos and the top of the order. Millsie probably wanted to get the kid a win by bringing in a usually good Wilton Lopez, but that didn't work out too well.

Don't know if this had anything to do with anything, but Lyles ran out of gas fast at a similar point in his last start at OKC

2943
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Queen City 'Chili' Gobblers
« on: April 29, 2012, 02:44:30 pm »
Need to get it right back here

2944
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Queen City 'Chili' Gobblers
« on: April 29, 2012, 02:01:19 pm »
I didn't see what CJ did, but it was an out. Followed by Castro whiffing and it's 5-3 Houston in the middle of the sixth.

He started the breeze before Castro's at bat

2945
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Queen City 'Chili' Gobblers
« on: April 29, 2012, 01:56:00 pm »
Matty Downtowns

2946
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Queen City 'Chili' Gobblers
« on: April 29, 2012, 01:51:49 pm »

2947
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Queen City 'Chili' Gobblers
« on: April 29, 2012, 01:39:18 pm »
Nice answer Lowrie!

2948
Talk Zone / Re: WTF? Fernando Martinez...
« on: April 28, 2012, 02:53:00 pm »
I'm glad to see Buck finally healthy enough to get a start

I'm not, he's a better pinch hitter than starter. 4 for 6(with a walk) versus 3 for 18 (no walks)

2949
ESPN has JD  and MLB.com is fixed

2950
Lineup is not that shocking: LRSRLR

2951
MLB.com has Fernando, but I think that might be wrong

F-Mart is on his only option(I believe).  I highly doubt they call him up unless somebody is traded or more seriously injured. 

2952
MLB.com has Fernando, but I think that might be wrong

2953
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Reds April 27, 2012
« on: April 27, 2012, 09:23:30 pm »
Myers dominates.  Astros win. 

2954
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Reds April 27, 2012
« on: April 27, 2012, 09:04:20 pm »
Wow nice, Stubbs on third with no outs, Votto, Phillips and Ludwick coming up and Stubbs doesn't score.  Very nice

2955
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: BA Prospect Hot Sheet (2012)
« on: April 27, 2012, 08:42:18 pm »
Quote
No. 2 JONATHAN SINGLETON, 1B
 ASTROS
 
Team: Double-A Corpus Christi (Texas)
Age: 20
Why He's Here: .429/.484/.929 (12-for-28), 3 HR, 3 2B, 1 3B, 9 RBIs, 8 R, 3 BB, 5 SO, 1-for-1 SB
The Scoop: Singleton hit his first homer of the season last Friday, starting him on an extra-base hit binge that accounted for the bulk of his 26 total bases last week. Among the highlights: A two-double game on Monday and a two-homer game Tuesday in which he went deep against Athletics 2011 first-rounder Sonny Gray. Singleton's offensive barrage pushed him to second in the Texas League batting race (.368), third in slugging (.662) and fourth in extra-base hits (12). By virtue of his 11-to-15 walk-to-strikeout ratio, he also leads the TL in on-base percentage at .456.

Singleton dabbles occasionally in left field with the Hooks, but his future lies at first base for the Astros, a position he may assume during the second half of 2013. His feel for the strike zone and burgeoning power give him a chance to be a first-division regular there.
 

2956
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Reds April 27, 2012
« on: April 27, 2012, 08:32:26 pm »
Any idea how bad the ankle roll was?

2957
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Reds April 27, 2012
« on: April 27, 2012, 08:26:01 pm »
Nice job by Wandy to settle down and get out of that with only the one run.  Young Wandy would have watched that inning end from the pine

2958
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros @ Reds April 27, 2012
« on: April 27, 2012, 08:21:02 pm »
Needs a double play

2959
Talk Zone / Re: Very strange stat
« on: April 26, 2012, 12:47:27 pm »
That's a 4 game improvement!


I rounded down.  Could be 3

2960
Talk Zone / Re: Very strange stat
« on: April 26, 2012, 12:43:49 pm »
Houston Astros have a run differential of +8 and a W-L of 7-12.



It's just a sample size thing.  1 of 2 things is going to happen over 162 games, either the run differential is going to correct itself or the W/L will correct itself.  Maybe not completely, but mostly.  It would be amazing if the Astros finished +68 runs and 102 losses (their current pace).

2961
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 03:38:36 pm »
Astros win.  Myers 3 for 3 for saves. 

2962
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 03:01:33 pm »
Looks like JD has busted out of his mini slump

2963
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:39:57 pm »
Bogusevic has quietly been on a bit of a tear the last 10 games

2964
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:28:02 pm »
I'm sure he has a reason - he has to, right? - but we haven't been dazzled by Mills' in-game work yet. He might be great bringing along the new kids, but the strategic pieces don't seem to shine too brightly.

The only thing I can think of is that Mills is completely gun shy with this bullpen.  After last year and this.

2965
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:13:44 pm »
Hell, Happ will do well to escape this inning.

He got out of the inning in 10 pitches, might see him in the 6th as well...

2966
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:08:54 pm »
Sorry I don't get it Happ already has thrown 93 pitches.  You get runners at the corners and the pitcher up.  An off day tomorrow.  WTF, that is an easy pinch hit choice.

2967
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:06:47 pm »
Or he hits better than our bench.

except he sent him up there to bunt the runner to second

2968
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:06:07 pm »
Mills wants him to get the W to build confidence.

Team getting the W should be enough confidence.

2969
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:03:36 pm »
Happ allowed to bat with runners at the corners and 1 out.  Apparantly that one extra inning from Happ is more important then taking the lead

2970
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers 4/25: Daytime Baseball:
« on: April 25, 2012, 01:22:24 pm »
Runner scores against the Astros on a wild pitch.  Stop me if you heard that one before

edit: according to Doray, that is the third run for the Brewers on a wild pitch in the series.

2971
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 10:17:54 pm »
On the off chance the Astros come back in this one, who is closing?

2972
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 09:32:47 pm »
wow that threat ended as quickly as it started

2973
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 09:16:03 pm »
I seem to remember an offspeed pitch in progress last season, but I haven't seen it so far this season. Bud has the tools to be a reliever, and I think that is where he ought to be if this club had real other options for the rotation.

Lyles though 7.  6 Ks, 13 groundouts, 1 fly out and a caught stealing.  Given up 2 hits, 2 BBs and 0 runs.  Should be 4-0 after tonight.  

2974
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:57:05 pm »
Singleton with a monster shot tonight in CC. 

Just a double short of the cycle

2975
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:50:47 pm »
The Altuve doesn't take 3-0

2976
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:44:48 pm »
Wheels just kinda came off this inning...  You're love'll pull him through it though BG!

Quickly puts on the spare

2977
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:31:48 pm »
Lyles with a no-hitter through 5 (2 walks though)

2978
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:19:09 pm »
Funny thing is that on Luhnow's arrival I got the impression that he was anything but an Altuve believer...

Statistically Altuve doesn't stand a chance

2979
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:18:22 pm »
I love him, but how was Biggio not a pissant?

slider away

2980
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:17:52 pm »
They've made Wolf work pretty hard.  79 pitches through 4

2981
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:06:42 pm »
Add Norris to the ever growing list of pitchers tied all time for 4 Ks in an inning.  With this catching duo I think an Astros pitcher will have a good shot at 5 this year

2982
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:05:09 pm »
Going to ammend it.  Altuve doesn't really have enough speed for the leadoff:

1) Shreefer
2) Mr. The Altuve
3) Mr. The Altuve
4) JD Martinez
5) Mr. The Altuve
6) Mr. The Altuve
7) Mr. The Altuve
8 ) Mr. The Altuve

2983
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: Astros at Brewers, 4/24/12
« on: April 24, 2012, 07:53:54 pm »
He leads the team in slugging so cleanup wouldn't be ridiculous.  After JD, is only 33 points behind him but after that it is Shreefer 128 points behind him.

  The best lineup would be:

1) Mr. The Altuve
2) Mr. The Altuve
3) Mr. The Altuve
4) JD Martinez
5) Mr. The Altuve
6) Mr. The Altuve
7) Mr. The Altuve
8 ) Mr. The Altuve

2984
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lexington - 2012
« on: April 24, 2012, 07:43:56 pm »
Awww crap, what happened to Tropeano?  2 inning pitched then pulled

2985
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Oklahoma City - 2012
« on: April 24, 2012, 12:06:31 pm »
Oops ... Looks like Paul Clemens went on the DL, too.  Any word on his status?


Didn't see this answered but ran accross it today:

"The Second Baptist High School alum replaced Paul Clemens, who was held out of his start and placed on the disabled list with back spasms. The injury to Clemens, perhaps a candidate for promotion at some point in 2012 should there be an injury, trade or performance issue at the major league level, is not considered serious."


2986
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 24, 2012, 09:06:11 am »
Three out of eight every day starters would not start on any other team. They might not MAKE any other team.

At least two, maybe three, maybe four more would not start on any average team.

Other than Johnson, I'm not buying what you are selling. 

2987
The Bus Ride Discussion Forum / Re: Lancaster - 2012
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:47:34 am »
Nash hit #8 last night.

He also collected 3 of the 5 walks given out last night.  Never a bad sign when you are being selected as the guy who pitchers are avoiding.

2988
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:49:58 pm »
Astros would have this game easy if somebody didn't get away with failing a drug test

2989
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:37:49 pm »
Okay JD, time to bust oout of the slump

nevermind

2990
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:36:10 pm »
Okay JD, time to bust oout of the slump

2991
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:28:30 pm »
If Altuve settles in and keeps playing like this, what do you do with Paredes?

What a nice problem to have

2992
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:21:22 pm »
I'd rather see CJ off the bench.  It's becoming more clear his future in the bigs is likely a bat off the bench or a platoon player

Wait for his next streak then trade him

2993
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:17:13 pm »
By the way, Paredes is 10 for his last 19 with 4 doubles and a hr  

11 for 20 with 5 doubles now

2994
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:15:05 pm »
But they're wicked smaht

the hoppa!

2995
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:01:47 pm »
Lee pops out P4. Thanks, big man. For nothing.

Lee's future replacement(Singleton) having another good night.  2 for 2 with a pair of doubles so far tonight.  

2996
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 07:57:44 pm »
JD still having good ABs through his mini slump

2997
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 07:47:07 pm »
Other than moving him to three, which is what I'd do (Martinez to cleanup and Lee to the five),

I'm on this band wagon

2998
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 07:45:51 pm »
Greinke tosses a 70 mph hook after a 93 mph heater. Harrell out 1-3. 3-1 Bottom 2

By the way, Paredes is 10 for his last 19 with 4 doubles and a hr  

2999
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 07:29:36 pm »
Mine's working.

Mine is not playing but it doesn't seem like I want to watch today anyways

3000
Game Zone 2012 Archive / Re: 4/23/12 HOU @ MIL
« on: April 23, 2012, 07:13:20 pm »
Anybody's MLB.TV working?

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