I think those HR and RBI totals are for the year.
Assuming Springer comes back and no further injuries, with Alvarez, Bradley, Reddick and Marisnick as backup, he's blocked. It's either stay at AAA or be part of a trade but it would have to be a blockbuster before I would let him go.
Over .280, 22 homers, 53 RBI
What will happen with him?
Reddick AB R H HR RBI Avg BB SO Mar 10 0 3 0 0 0.300 - - Apr 81 3 29 3 7 0.358 8 11 May 90 11 24 2 10 0.267 8 11 Jun 56 6 15 3 8 0.268 0 6 237 30 71 8 25 0.300 16 28 Tucker AB R H HR RBI Avg BB SO Apr 85 11 14 5 9 0.165 5 23 May 108 28 36 11 28 0.333 16 23 Jun 55 15 20 7 17 0.364 6 16 248 54 70 23 54 0.282 27 62 May-Jun 163 43 56 18 45 0.344 22 29 |
oops he hit another one tonight. 23 homers, 54 RBI
I think those HR and RBI totals are for the year.
Assuming Springer comes back and no further injuries, with Alvarez, Bradley, Reddick and Marisnick as backup, he's blocked. It's either stay at AAA or be part of a trade but it would have to be a blockbuster before I would let him go.
I agree with all of that. We're not in a must-win two year window; we're tooled up for a five year run.
Perhaps the more relevant question is what about what will happen to Reddick?
Reddick (https://www.mlb.com/player/josh-reddick-502210?stats=splits-r-hitting-mlb&year=2019/), 32, is signed through 2020; Tucker (http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=663656#/splits/R/hitting/2019/MINORS/) is 22.
Granted that there is a difference b/t AAA and the ML, but Alvarez is highlighting the possibility that the difference is not all that great for him. Alvarez is shining bright now! It is a thrill to see his impact. Let's see what Tucker can do, alternating with Reddick.
Since his disasterous April, Tucker has been hitting .344 (56 hits for 163 AB) w/ 43 runs scored, 18 HR & 45 RBI in 40 games! Increased production while increasing his BB to K's, especially during May-June
2017 - 46 BB to 109 K's
2018 - 48 BB to 84 K's
2019 - 22 BB to 39 K's (May-Jun)
Granted it is a limited sample and it is in AAA, but we don't want to be on the LA/Boston side of a potential Alvarez/Bagwell trade.
Suggest giving Tucker a chance b/f dumping him - he has earned it.
Reddick AB R H HR RBI Avg BB SO
Mar 10 0 3 0 0 0.300 - -
Apr 81 3 29 3 7 0.358 8 11
May 90 11 24 2 10 0.267 8 11
Jun 56 6 15 3 8 0.268 0 6
237 30 71 8 25 0.300 16 28
Tucker AB R H HR RBI Avg BB SO
Apr 85 11 14 5 9 0.165 5 23
May 108 28 36 11 28 0.333 16 23
Jun 55 15 20 7 17 0.364 6 16
248 54 70 23 54 0.282 27 62
May-Jun 163 43 56 18 45 0.344 22 29
With the exciting production of so many rookies, including rookie pitchers, would it be too far a stretch to envision another possible Biggio/Bagwell combo in LH Alvarez/Tucker to go with RH Bregman, Springer, & Correa - almost all home grown. Would Alvarez count as home grown?
At least worth a look b/f dumping him for a short-term, possibly rental, pitcher.
In Luhnow I trust.
“Dumping” him? WTF?
Tucker has failed once in MLB when they gave him LF. He is no Alvarez in any respect.
I can't think of any organization since the mid-century Yankees who have been able to assemble the amount of talent up and down the organization that Luhnow and Co. have.
“Dumping” him? WTF?
Tucker has failed once in MLB when they gave him LF. He is no Alvarez in any respect.
Tucker “failed” to the same tune that Bregman did. Let’s see if he’s made the same kind of adjustments.
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Tucker “failed” to the same tune that Bregman did. Let’s see if he’s made the same kind of adjustments.
But with Bregman, you could see that the stroke and the eye were good, and that he was going through an adjustment period. Tucker's stroke doesn't inspire the same confidence.
Tucker “failed” to the same tune that Bregman did. Let’s see if he’s made the same kind of adjustments.You can't compare rookies with eerily similar numbers, including advanced numbers such as average exit velocity, showing bad luck apparently. Tucker is a failure until proven otherwise after being traded and everybody will say "should have never traded him"
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You can't compare rookies with eerily similar numbers, including advanced numbers such as average exit velocity, showing bad luck apparently. Tucker is a failure until proven otherwise after being traded and everybody will say "should have never traded him"
He went from the future and can't miss to a failure pretty damn fast for a 21 year old
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Who said he is a failure? I said he failed when they gave him LF. The Astros apparently thought so too, and Marvin became an every day LFer. I hope he has regained his luster and becomes a key piece to acquiring a starter..This time last year, everything you said about Tucker was how he was special. Then he struggled and now everytime you talk about him is in reference to trading him. Is that not considering him a failure? If you're just hoping to trade him, kind of a failure for a guy who had star potential.
This time last year, everything you said about Tucker was how he was special. Then he struggled and now everytime you talk about him is in reference to trading him. Is that not considering him a failure? If you're just hoping to trade him, kind of a failure for a guy who had star potential.
This time last year, everything you said about Tucker was how he was special. Then he struggled and now everytime you talk about him is in reference to trading him. Is that not considering him a failure? If you're just hoping to trade him, kind of a failure for a guy who had star potential.
This time last year, everything you said about Tucker was how he was special. Then he struggled and now everytime you talk about him is in reference to trading him. Is that not considering him a failure? If you're just hoping to trade him, kind of a failure for a guy who had star potential.
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There are very few MLB teams where Tucker would not be a regular.
Houston brought him up and made him a regular. What happened?
The same thing that happened when they brought Bregman up.
I only watched him with the big club, so I’m sure those who follow the minors have a more informed view than I.
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The same thing that happened when they brought Bregman up.
Fuck no. Bregman was 0-17, then started to hit. Tucker never did, and he lost the job they gave him. Then they sent him to AAA. If you cannot see the difference, you have a crush on Tucker.
Fuck no. Bregman was 0-17, then started to hit. Tucker never did, and he lost the job they gave him. Then they sent him to AAA. If you cannot see the difference, you have a crush on Tucker.
Not necessarily, Jim.
Please also consider the age and experience difference:
Luke (http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=663656#/career/R/hitting/2019/ALL) was 18 when drafted out of hs and 21 when he failed his debut (28 games). He has paid his dues, has now played in 464 minor league games.
Bregman (http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=608324#/career/R/hitting/2019/ALL) was 21 when drafted and 22 when he made his ML debut. He was ready: "during his junior year at LSU in 2015, was a First Team All-American, Gold Glove Award winner and a Golden Spikes Award finalist... Finished his career at LSU with a .337 batting average with 56 doubles, 10 triples, 21 homers, 148 RBI, 153 runs and 66 steals...Played in the 2015 Houston College Classic at Minute Maid Park for LSU and was named to the All Tournament Team after hitting .385 (5x13) a double and three steals." He played 146 minor league games b/f his debut.
Would you grant that there was a maturity difference and that the level of competition was probably stronger for Bregman's 3 years @ LSU?
The slump in April may also have been formative for Tucker - it was similar to the lack of production in his 28 ML games. Could that make his production during May-June even more significant?
Laureano (http://https//www.mlb.com/player/ramon-laureano-657656) "Spent his final season in the Houston organization at Double-A Corpus Christi where he batted .227 with 11 home runs and 55 RBI in a career-high 123 games…the batting average was the lowest of his three full seasons as was his .369 slugging percentage and .298 on-base percentage… " He was blocked.
JD Martinez (http://https//www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/martijd02.shtml) averaged .251 in 252 Astros games from 2011-13. He was unproductive.
Don't know what Luke can do now, but let's find out b/f trading him. "Let the kid play!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umaLqNO9e_M&ab_channel=MLB)
Would you grant that there was a maturity difference and that the level of competition was probably stronger for Bregman's 3 years @ LSU?
Snuffy, who is Luke?
That's interesting. I would not have expected college (even the mighty SEC) to have a higher level of competition than AA and AAA professional baseball.Your expectation is correct. Even the mighty SEC is well below AA competition.
That's interesting. I would not have expected college (even the mighty SEC) to have a higher level of competition than AA and AAA professional baseball.
That's interesting. I would not have expected college (even the mighty SEC) to have a higher level of competition than AA and AAA professional baseball.
Luhnow said the other day (and it surprised me a little) that he thinks the best college baseball conferences are pretty close to High A.Well, it's hard to dispute Luhnow, but I'd side with Mr. Happy in that it better be their stud on the mound for a college team to compete with a good High A team. Just the other day, I was checking in on Clemens and Luken Baker, both dudes that dominated the Big 12 last year. They're both still finding their legs one year later in High A.
Luhnow said the other day (and it surprised me a little) that he thinks the best college baseball conferences are pretty close to High A.
That's interesting. I would not have expected college (even the mighty SEC) to have a higher level of competition than AA and AAA professional baseball.
Luhnow said the other day (and it surprised me a little) that he thinks the best college baseball conferences are pretty close to High A.
I thought Luke was Preston.
Duh. Maybe elite clubs are but nothing higher than this.
I have no idea what would happen if one of today's CWS teams played a three game series with any give High A or AA team. I expect the professional team would win handily most of the time, but I thought it was interesting that Luhnow thought he could gauge a player's potential in High A or AA from having watched him compete at a school in a good conference.I remember Ben McDonald saying that the CWS teams were equivalent to AA. I'm of the belief that his statement is off the charts wrong, so much so that I went through a thought experiment. If there were 8 four-team, double elimination tournaments with the top 24 ranked college teams and the 8 Texas League teams, I'd take even money that the final 8 teams would all be the Texas League teams.
I remember Ben McDonald saying that the CWS teams were equivalent to AA. I'm of the belief that his statement is off the charts wrong, so much so that I went through a thought experiment. If there were 8 four-team, double elimination tournaments with the top 24 ranked college teams and the 8 Texas League teams, I'd take even money that the final 8 teams would all be the Texas League teams.
Sure, there are college players who would not embarrass themselves in AA, but the average to below average AA position player would be one of the top players on the best college teams, and the sheer pitching depth of an AA team would overwhelm college teams.
What percentage of the roster on typical CWS teams is even drafted?
About 56% of this year's CWS teams' eligible players were drafted. The leaders were Vandy with 13 drafted of 15 eligible, Louisville with 9 of 15, and Miss St. with 11 of 19. (those numbers assume that MLB's Draft Tracker listed every draft-eligible player from each school)
Sure, there are college players who would not embarrass themselves in AA, but the average to below average AA position player would be one of the top players on the best college teams, and the sheer pitching depth of an AA team would overwhelm college teams.
Would the 56% include players that have been be drafted in hs, but not as a college player?
I remember Ben McDonald saying that the CWS teams were equivalent to AA. I'm of the belief that his statement is off the charts wrong, so much so that I went through a thought experiment. If there were 8 four-team, double elimination tournaments with the top 24 ranked college teams and the 8 Texas League teams, I'd take even money that the final 8 teams would all be the Texas League teams.
Sure, there are college players who would not embarrass themselves in AA, but the average to below average AA position player would be one of the top players on the best college teams, and the sheer pitching depth of an AA team would overwhelm colleg
e teams.
I remember Ben McDonald saying that the CWS teams were equivalent to AA. I'm of the belief that his statement is off the charts wrong, so much so that I went through a thought experiment. If there were 8 four-team, double elimination tournaments with the top 24 ranked college teams and the 8 Texas League teams, I'd take even money that the final 8 teams would all be the Texas League teams.
Sure, there are college players who would not embarrass themselves in AA, but the average to below average AA position player would be one of the top players on the best college teams, and the sheer pitching depth of an AA team would overwhelm college teams.
No. I would expect that number (among draft-eligible players) to be very small, though. "Draft-eligibile" = players with at least 3 years of college. There's probably a few players on each team that were drafted out of HS that are not yet draft eligible (freshmen/soph), but I didn't count those.
i watched a lot of kids who had been good college players come to rookie ball and struggle. The pitching depth and line up depth are very different. Also the daily grind makes a difference. College teams play 50-60 games in 4 months. Short season teams play 66 games in 2 1/2 months....
"The daily grind makes a difference." Indeed.
Kinda like the difference b/t dating and marriage: someone may think they are a "pro" at dating, but whether they know it or not they become rookies when they enter marriage. It's a whole different ball game.
IMO.