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Title: ALDS schedule
Post by: BudGirl on October 02, 2018, 09:49:52 am
So, we all know what days the games are scheduled, but have they seriously not announced the times?  I cannot seem to find it.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: jbm on October 02, 2018, 09:59:19 am
I just figure they are waiting on the results of the wild card games.  Not sure why it matters much though as I assume none of the Astros/Tribe games will be in prime time.  Already planning to take off early on Friday and Monday
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Fredia on October 02, 2018, 10:00:48 am
maybe just a filler but when i look at friday on tbs it lists the first game at 4 and the second 730
just saying what the guide is showing
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 10:11:36 am
No announcement yet.  Last year the start times were announced on the Sunday night that the season ended.  I wondered if the NL tie-breakers affected MLB's ability to announce the times, but couldn't come up with a logical reason.  Anyway, that would be moot after yesterday anyway. 

It's a tad frustrating.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: BudGirl on October 02, 2018, 10:14:38 am
I just don't get why they won't announce the AL times.  We all know it's going to be Boston getting the prime time slots so just say it already. 
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: BlownRanger on October 02, 2018, 10:31:17 am
I just don't get why they won't announce the AL times.  We all know it's going to be Boston getting the prime time slots so just say it already.

It probably wouldn't matter, but if Oakland beats NY, Verlander/Kluber might hold some prime-time appeal.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Limey on October 02, 2018, 10:56:38 am
I just don't get why they won't announce the AL times.  We all know it's going to be Boston getting the prime time slots so just say it already.

Maybe it's the east coast / west coast thing; 7:30 (CDT) is 8:30 in Boston.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 11:00:58 am
Maybe it's the east coast / west coast thing; 7:30 (CDT) is 8:30 in Boston.

MLB doesn't care.  Their only concern is to  the highest ratings.  Think about all those Red Sox fans in California who want to see their team!
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: BudGirl on October 02, 2018, 11:04:00 am
It seems as though Fridays games are:

Indians at Astros
Braves at Dodgers

Seriously?  They can't figure out the times for these games??????????? 

Did someone just forget to release them???
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: jbm on October 02, 2018, 11:05:39 am
I'm seeing 1:05 for Friday on my MLB atbat app.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: jbm on October 02, 2018, 11:06:15 am
And 3:37 for Saturday's game
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: BudGirl on October 02, 2018, 11:07:26 am
I'm seeing 1:05 for Friday on my MLB atbat app.

I just saw that.  I guess I need to take the afternoon off....
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 11:10:08 am
I'm seeing 1:05 for Friday on my MLB atbat app.
And 3:37 for Saturday's game

The MLB Ballpark app still says TBD, but I have a feeling that your prophecy will bear out. 
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 11:11:03 am
The MLB Ballpark app still says TBD, but I have a feeling that your prophecy will bear out.

And Astros.com says it's 1:05 on Friday.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Fredia on October 02, 2018, 11:36:46 am
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mlb-postseason-field-set-heres-schedule-watch-234655907.html

go Verlander
schedule on  yashoo sports
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Limey on October 02, 2018, 11:52:31 am
And Astros.com says it's 1:05 on Friday.

I still have a visceral reaction to shit like this, being triggered by memories of the home field "advantage" handed to the Astros against the Padres in 1998.  Tuesday and Thursday afternoon home games for the Astros while the Pads got Saturday and Sunday home games.

Also, the four games played in this series were spread over 7 days, basically allowing the Padres to win the series with a single pitcher (and Sterling Hitchcock).

Fuck you, Bud Selig.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: jaklewein on October 02, 2018, 12:53:25 pm
And Astros.com says it's 1:05 on Friday.

Good grief....glad I decided to take the 2nd flight out Friday morning.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 02, 2018, 01:04:06 pm
I still have a visceral reaction to shit like this, being triggered by memories of the home field "advantage" handed to the Astros against the Padres in 1998.  Tuesday and Thursday afternoon home games for the Astros while the Pads got Saturday and Sunday home games.

Also, the four games played in this series were spread over 7 days, basically allowing the Padres to win the series with a single pitcher (and Sterling Hitchcock).

Fuck you, Bud Selig.

You're not helping me get over things,  you know.

FBS.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 02, 2018, 01:07:47 pm
Fucking 1 OClock.  F right off MLB,
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Fredia on October 02, 2018, 01:08:37 pm
well its apparent his little plan to move the astros to the al did not work out at all how he plaaned
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 01:33:17 pm
No surprises but the Astros announced Verlander, Cole, and Keuchel will pitch games 1, 2 and 3, respectively.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: das on October 02, 2018, 01:55:58 pm
No surprises but the Astros announced Verlander, Cole, and Keuchel will pitch games 1, 2 and 3, respectively.

I just read that and got butterflies in my stomach.  I hate that there is still three days until game time.
Title: ALDS
Post by: Nate Colbert on October 02, 2018, 02:10:47 pm
Reasons not to subscribe?

5 of 8 The Athletic writers picking Indians over the Astros in the ALDS (including Ken Rosenthal, Eno Sarris and Joe Posnanski).

Of the other 3, Jayson Stark has the Astros winning over the Red Sox in the ALCS (and then losing to the Brewers in the WS) while Jim Bowden picks the Sox over the Astros. Only Peter Gammons has the club going all the way for its 2nd consecutive WS title.


Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Lefty on October 02, 2018, 02:27:42 pm
No surprises but the Astros announced Verlander, Cole, and Keuchel will pitch games 1, 2 and 3, respectively.
Against Kluber, Carrasco, Clevinger with Bauer available out of the pen for games 1 or 2.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Fredia on October 02, 2018, 02:31:08 pm
i just want to know who the rest of the team are
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: DVauthrin on October 02, 2018, 02:41:38 pm
Fucking 1 OClock.  F right off MLB,

Agreed. The defending World Series championsb can’t even get the 4 p.m. game slot (which instead goes to the Brewers/NL Wildcard winner)?  Pathetic. 
Title: Re: ALDS
Post by: Limey on October 02, 2018, 02:51:47 pm
5 of 8 The Athletic writers picking Indians over the Astros in the ALDS (including Ken Rosenthal, Eno Sarris and Joe Posnanski).

And what, prey tell (i.e. so I don't have to give them a clickthrough) is their rationale?  They finished with 12 fewer wins than the Astros, despite being the only team in their division above .500 - the laughable Rangers would've been 3rd in the Central and the Indians would've been sitting out October if they'd been in the West.

It's the post-season, so there's no foregone conclusions, but it seems weird that there's so many going against the Astros here.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Jacksonian on October 02, 2018, 03:07:30 pm
Agreed. The defending World Series championsb can’t even get the 4 p.m. game slot (which instead goes to the Brewers/NL Wildcard winner)?  Pathetic.

The games are staggered.  AL, NL, AL, NL.  Since the only game that could reasonably go off last is the one on the west coast the stagger makes sense.  Of course the Red Sox/A's could go first but...
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 02, 2018, 03:22:50 pm
For my own selfish reasons, I like the 1 o'clock start time. I have to drive three hours there and three hours back.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Limey on October 02, 2018, 03:34:25 pm
I'm hoping employers are relaxed on Friday to let their people drift away early.

But, really, are they going to get a bigger combined audience having a game one a midweek afternoon than they would if that game overlapped with one other when people could actually watch?
Title: Re: ALDS
Post by: juliogotay on October 02, 2018, 03:35:41 pm
And what, prey tell (i.e. so I don't have to give them a clickthrough) is their rationale?  They finished with 12 fewer wins than the Astros, despite being the only team in their division above .500 - the laughable Rangers would've been 3rd in the Central and the Indians would've been sitting out October if they'd been in the West.

It's the post-season, so there's no foregone conclusions, but it seems weird that there's so many going against the Astros here.

It's the post-season, so there's no foregone conclusions, but it seems weird that there's so many going against the Astros here.
Particularly in looking at the two clubs' season series this year in which Houston did pretty well. I'd rather be the underdog though.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: NeilT on October 02, 2018, 03:50:28 pm
There are so many things that can go wrong in 5- and 7- game series. I, for one, am just trying to help the ball club, give it my best shot, good lord willing things will work out.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: DVauthrin on October 02, 2018, 03:50:50 pm
The games are staggered.  AL, NL, AL, NL.  Since the only game that could reasonably go off last is the one on the west coast the stagger makes sense.  Of course the Red Sox/A's could go first but...

Did not know that, so thank you for the clarification.  However, it’s still pretty sad that the defending champions are in a terrible time slot.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: BudGirl on October 02, 2018, 03:56:31 pm
There are so many things that can go wrong in 5- and 7- game series. I, for one, am just trying to help the ball club, give it my best shot, good lord willing things will work out.

Anyone want to go to Avalon Diner for lunch tomorrow (Wednesday)?
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: BUWebguy on October 02, 2018, 03:58:09 pm
And what, prey tell (i.e. so I don't have to give them a clickthrough) is their rationale? 

Not much reasoning given --- the article is mostly just a list of each person's picks for each round. Notable excerpts:
* Rosenthal: "I just have a hunch about the Indians, nothing more, but my apologies in advance to their fans. My picks not only are always wrong, but often they are spectacularly wrong!"

* Stark: "First off, I can’t pick the Astros because nobody ever repeats in any sport except the Warriors. But even if I could, I’m all in on the Brewers right now. The road to parade floats in the 21st century runs through the bullpen. And the best bullpen in baseball these days can be found hanging out with Bernie Brewer."

* Sarris: "What do the Indians lack? They once lacked some bullpen firepower, but with Andrew Miller back and throwing 94 mph, and Brad Hand… in hand, the Indians’ bullpen has been sixth-best in baseball in the past month. They had the best rotation in baseball, and Trevor Bauer is back. They only had the seventh-best lineup this year by league- and park-adjusted numbers, but they struck out less than any team above them, and making contact is the best way to collect lotto tickets in the postseason. Francisco Lindor and José Ramírez are the best keystone in baseball, and Cleveland has cobbled together an outfield. This is the year."

* Gammons: "This is a better Astros team than last season, even if Carlos Correa’s back doesn’t come around. They now have Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole and Dallas Keuchel, and while that troika’s innings help the bullpen breathe, the relief is deeper and better with the additions of Roberto Osuna, Ryan Pressly and Josh James, all big power arms that allow Lance McCullers to be used anytime, anywhere, anyhow. Combined, Osuna, Pressly and James have a 1.69 earned run average with an 80-13 strikeout-walk ratio in 69 innings. And Alex Bregman succeeds George Springer as World Series MVP."

* Posnanski: "The Tribe has flown under the radar all season, playing well below their Pythagorean expectation, cruising to a division title while the spotlight has shined on the Yankees and Astros. But this team still has what I think is the best rotation in baseball, they have a well-rounded and athletic offense, and while their bullpen has faltered in the regular season, guys like Andrew Miller and Cody Allen are postseason stalwarts." [Note: Posnanski grew up an Indians fan in Cleveland.]
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Limey on October 02, 2018, 04:26:46 pm
Nitpicks inserted below:

Not much reasoning given --- the article is mostly just a list of each person's picks for each round. Notable excerpts:
* Rosenthal: "I just have a hunch about the Indians, nothing more, but my apologies in advance to their fans. My picks not only are always wrong, but often they are spectacularly wrong!"

Ummm, ok.


* Stark: "First off, I can’t pick the Astros because nobody ever repeats in any sport except the Warriors. But even if I could, I’m all in on the Brewers right now. The road to parade floats in the 21st century runs through the bullpen. And the best bullpen in baseball these days can be found hanging out with Bernie Brewer."

They were below .500 in 1-run games (22-24) and 4-9 in extra-inning games; that doesn't smack of the best bullpen in baseball.  (The Astros were .500 in 1-run games an 5-6 in extra innings).


* Sarris: "What do the Indians lack? They once lacked some bullpen firepower, but with Andrew Miller back and throwing 94 mph, and Brad Hand… in hand, the Indians’ bullpen has been sixth-best in baseball in the past month. They had the best rotation in baseball, and Trevor Bauer is back. They only had the seventh-best lineup this year by league- and park-adjusted numbers, but they struck out less than any team above them, and making contact is the best way to collect lotto tickets in the postseason. Francisco Lindor and José Ramírez are the best keystone in baseball, and Cleveland has cobbled together an outfield. This is the year."

That's an amazingly cherry-picked stat (also, see above).  The best rotation (with the best / sixth best bullpen) gave up 114 more runs than the Astros playing in the worst division in the AL.  As for strikeouts, they had fewer than Houston.  Eight.  Eight fewer than Houston.  1189 vs 1197.  A difference of 0.00668338.


* Gammons: "This is a better Astros team than last season, even if Carlos Correa’s back doesn’t come around. They now have Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole and Dallas Keuchel, and while that troika’s innings help the bullpen breathe, the relief is deeper and better with the additions of Roberto Osuna, Ryan Pressly and Josh James, all big power arms that allow Lance McCullers to be used anytime, anywhere, anyhow. Combined, Osuna, Pressly and James have a 1.69 earned run average with an 80-13 strikeout-walk ratio in 69 innings. And Alex Bregman succeeds George Springer as World Series MVP."

No comment.


* Posnanski: "The Tribe has flown under the radar all season, playing well below their Pythagorean expectation, cruising to a division title while the spotlight has shined on the Yankees and Astros. But this team still has what I think is the best rotation in baseball, they have a well-rounded and athletic offense, and while their bullpen has faltered in the regular season, guys like Andrew Miller and Cody Allen are postseason stalwarts." [Note: Posnanski grew up an Indians fan in Cleveland.]

They've been cruising under the radar because their division sucks.  They have losing records vs. the East and West, while beating up their baby brothers in the Central to a tune of 49-27 (.645).  The Astros have a winning record against all divisions, and are 25-7 against the Central (.781).


It's ok for these guys to pick the Indians if they want; it's just galling to see such flimsy excuses.  This makes the annual monkey shit fight HOF balloting look well researched.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Jacksonian on October 02, 2018, 04:53:46 pm
This makes the annual monkey shit fight HOF balloting look well researched.

So now you see that for them it is with corresponding attitudes.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Lefty on October 02, 2018, 05:00:33 pm
The games are staggered.  AL, NL, AL, NL.  Since the only game that could reasonably go off last is the one on the west coast the stagger makes sense.  Of course the Red Sox/A's could go first but...
Why didn't they do this last year?
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Nate Colbert on October 02, 2018, 06:00:00 pm
If you didn't like the opinions of The Athletic writers, then you'll probably like the opinions of some MLB.com folks much more. Of the 8 people polled (Footer and Justice are in there), all predicted the Astros would get past the Indians and 5 of 'em said the Astros would repeat as world champs (another 2 said they would get to the WS but lose).

https://www.mlb.com/news/postseason-world-series-expert-predictions/c-296869230
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 02, 2018, 06:52:48 pm
I'm seeing 1:05 for Friday on my MLB atbat app.

That means 2:05 am local time, guess I better check my alarm clock is working...
Title: Re: ALDS
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on October 02, 2018, 07:06:40 pm
Reasons not to subscribe?

5 of 8 The Athletic writers picking Indians over the Astros in the ALDS (including Ken Rosenthal, Eno Sarris and Joe Posnanski).

Of the other 3, Jayson Stark has the Astros winning over the Red Sox in the ALCS (and then losing to the Brewers in the WS) while Jim Bowden picks the Sox over the Astros. Only Peter Gammons has the club going all the way for its 2nd consecutive WS title.

AKA, the kind of shit defending champs with the second best record in baseball post next to their lockers.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 10:07:00 pm
Anyone want to go to Avalon Diner for lunch tomorrow (Wednesday)?

I'm in.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: VirtualBob on October 03, 2018, 03:55:08 am
That means 2:05 am local time, guess I better check my alarm clock is working...
A comfortable 8:05pm for me.  :-)
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: JimR on October 03, 2018, 06:36:36 am
A comfortable 8:05pm for me.  :-)

Where are you, Bob?
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Fredia on October 03, 2018, 07:51:57 am
put a blue star on virtual bob for his devotion
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 03, 2018, 08:10:53 am
A comfortable 8:05pm for me.  :-)

Games played in the Pacific time zone work best for me, I would be very happy to see a couple more in this post season.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 09:34:22 am
Games played in the Pacific time zone work best for me, I would be very happy to see a couple more in this post season.

Root hard for the A's until the ALCS then.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 03, 2018, 05:04:36 pm
Root hard for the A's until the ALCS then.

Liam Hendriks is a Perth guy so I would be happy to see him go well. 
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: subnuclear on October 04, 2018, 06:36:52 pm
ALDS Schedule:

All times Eastern
FRI CLE @ HOU 2:05 PM
SAT CLE@HOU 4:37 PM
MON HOU@CLE 1:30 PM
TUE HOU@CLE 4:35 PM *
THU CLE@HOU 4:07 PM  *

* - if needed
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: austro on October 04, 2018, 06:38:57 pm
ALDS Schedule:

All times Eastern
FRI CLE @ HOU 2:05 PM
SAT CLE@HOU 4:37 PM
MON HOU@CLE 1:30 PM
TUE HOU@CLE 4:35 PM *
THU CLE@HOU 4:07 PM  *

* - if needed

Well, I guess it's fair in that both teams get the same lousy home starting times.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Tom Servo on October 04, 2018, 07:17:04 pm
Well, I guess it's fair in that both teams get the same lousy home starting times.

What did you expect?  They were going to give those times to Boston and New York?
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 04, 2018, 07:18:36 pm
Well, I guess it's fair in that both teams get the same lousy home starting times.

Looks like I'm in for a week of night shift.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: NeilT on October 05, 2018, 10:04:45 am
Anyone want to go to Avalon Diner for lunch tomorrow (Wednesday)?

I just saw this. I so would have gone.
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: juliogotay on October 05, 2018, 10:12:09 am
I just saw this. I so would have gone.

anyone else have butterflies with razor blades for wings? Or it could just be the Frito Pie saying "hello".
Title: Re: ALDS schedule
Post by: subnuclear on October 05, 2018, 11:16:57 am
anyone else have butterflies with razor blades for wings? Or it could just be the Frito Pie saying "hello".

Someone just cancelled my meeting that began at start time, so feeling good.