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Title: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Houston on February 08, 2007, 09:11:20 am
DirecTV link

Because everything is better when politicans get involved...
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: Craig on February 08, 2007, 12:02:48 pm
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DirecTV link

Because everything is better when politicans get involved...





Good. I hope more politicians get involved. This DirecTV deal is the biggest piece of shit I've heard of in a long time.
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: T. J. on February 08, 2007, 12:16:31 pm
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DirecTV link

Because everything is better when politicans get involved...





Good. I hope more politicians get involved. This DirecTV deal is the biggest piece of shit I've heard of in a long time.





More politicians have been involved, at least indirectly.  Arlen Specter introduced legislation last year directed at the NFL's "Sunday Ticket" which is basically the same thing on the NFL side.  Here's a pretty good analysis of how that legislation could affect the MLB deal:   Extra Innings / Sunday Ticket
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: Craig on February 08, 2007, 12:57:05 pm
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DirecTV link

Because everything is better when politicans get involved...





Good. I hope more politicians get involved. This DirecTV deal is the biggest piece of shit I've heard of in a long time.




More politicians have been involved, at least indirectly.  Arlen Specter introduced legislation last year directed at the NFL's "Sunday Ticket" which is basically the same thing on the NFL side.  Here's a pretty good analysis of how that legislation could affect the MLB deal:   Extra Innings / Sunday Ticket




Good article. So if I'm reading this right, the geniuses at MLB are reducing the amount of available households that can receive Extra Innings from 75 million to 15 million. And for doing this, they would gain an extra $30 million ... over 7 years.

Unbelievable. For fuck's sake, why can't they put together team-based packages? Let me just pay to watch ALL the Astros games, on whichever TV provider I choose.
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: Bench on February 08, 2007, 01:06:41 pm
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DirecTV link

Because everything is better when politicans get involved...





Good. I hope more politicians get involved. This DirecTV deal is the biggest piece of shit I've heard of in a long time.




More politicians have been involved, at least indirectly.  Arlen Specter introduced legislation last year directed at the NFL's "Sunday Ticket" which is basically the same thing on the NFL side.  Here's a pretty good analysis of how that legislation could affect the MLB deal:   Extra Innings / Sunday Ticket




Good article. So if I'm reading this right, the geniuses at MLB are reducing the amount of available households that can receive Extra Innings from 75 million to 15 million. And for doing this, they would gain an extra $30 million ... over 7 years.

Unbelievable. For fuck's sake, why can't they put together team-based packages? Let me just pay to watch ALL the Astros games, on whichever TV provider I choose.




I think it's an extra $30 million per year, which is an extra $1 million per yer, per team.

Which nicely covered Everett's and Lane's salary raises this year. Glad the nice out-of-market fans could oblige.
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: Limey on February 08, 2007, 05:30:04 pm
...except that Kerry called the service the "Line-of-sight-earth-to-space-to-earth-premium-televisual-and-audio-broadcast-service"
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Kent's Moustache on February 08, 2007, 07:11:36 pm
Now he can watch his favorite Red Sox player, "Manny Ortiz," play.

The people of Massachusetts should be ashamed for electing Kerry and Kennedy ("Mike McGwire and Sammy Sooser"), on baseball principle alone.
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: pravata on February 23, 2007, 02:43:01 pm
and gets results, FCC yesterdays says they,

"contacted the parties and requested additional information about their proposed arrangement. Once we have this information, we will report to you on the deal's implications for consumers and any recommended changes to the law to ameliorate any harms to consumers." The Link

That oughta slow em down.
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: HurricaneDavid on February 23, 2007, 04:04:30 pm
Meanwhile the season starts in 37 days.  What a fucking fiasco.
Title: Re: Senator Kerry gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situatio
Post by: Gizzmonic on February 23, 2007, 04:12:53 pm
At least Kerry has his constituents in mind...

Meanwhile, our own Congressman Gene Green is  cooking up a bill that would make it illegal for XM and Sirius to carry local news alerts.  Because it would be horrible if Clear Channel had to actually compete with someone, for once.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: pravata on March 01, 2007, 04:43:01 pm
(David Barron, Chron 2/26) ...some MLB club executives have expressed concern about the proposal.

But not Astros owner Drayton McLane, who instead expressed concern Friday about "our good senator (Kerry), who wants to get an investigation. The NFL has done this with (DirecTV) and the NBA has done it, and all of a sudden baseball is the bad guy. ... Baseball is being held to a different standard."
The Link

Jim Litke The Associated Press explains,

Those who wanted out-of-market NFL games were forced to migrate to DirecTV from the beginning. Unlike their baseball counterparts, they're not losing something they already had.
The Link

also, I dont think NBA League Pass is exclusive to DirecTV The Link
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Jacksonian on March 01, 2007, 04:49:49 pm
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"... Baseball is being held to a different standard."





Sucks when it doesn't work in your favor.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: JackAstro on March 01, 2007, 04:54:39 pm
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also, I dont think NBA League Pass is exclusive to DirecTV The Link




You're right, it's not. DirecTV used to be the only satellite provider of League Pass, but I don't know if that's still the case. You've always been able to get it through cable providers.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Limey on March 01, 2007, 05:23:36 pm
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"... Baseball is being held to a different standard."





Sucks when it doesn't work in your favor.




I've often been curious as to what would happen if these bozos' flapping lips finally torpedo the exemption.  Other than the potential for a rival league (XLB?) I have no idea what other ills may befall them.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Bench on March 01, 2007, 05:26:49 pm
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"... Baseball is being held to a different standard."





Sucks when it doesn't work in your favor.



I've often been curious as to what would happen if these bozos' flapping lips finally torpedo the exemption.  Other than the potential for a rival league (XLB?) I have no idea what other ills may befall them.




For one thing, all the geographic television blackouts would be illegal.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: pravata on March 01, 2007, 05:28:32 pm
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"... Baseball is being held to a different standard."





Sucks when it doesn't work in your favor.



I've often been curious as to what would happen if these bozos' flapping lips finally torpedo the exemption.  Other than the potential for a rival league (XLB?) I have no idea what other ills may befall them.




For one thing, all the geographic television blackouts would be illegal.




Also, wouldn't be able to restrict where a team could locate. Like the DC situation, or a possible San Antonio team.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Limey on March 01, 2007, 05:36:05 pm
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Also, wouldn't be able to restrict where a team could locate. Like the DC situation, or a possible San Antonio team.



...so it protects the rich clubs from competition with smaller clubs who might move into their market.  So even in a tiny population of 30 gazillionaires, the top 5% still shit all over the other 95%.  Classic.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: HurricaneDavid on March 01, 2007, 05:44:09 pm
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For one thing, all the geographic television blackouts would be illegal.




Why?
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Bench on March 01, 2007, 06:12:15 pm
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For one thing, all the geographic television blackouts would be illegal.




Why?





I'm not sure if it would actually be illegal, but it certainly would be challengeable.

From what I've heard the broadcast geography, like the location geography, is enforced through MLB's existence as a cartel. Cartels aren't allowed under the Sherman/Clayton antitrust acts from which MLB is exempted.

But then agin there's the issue of is it a cartel or is it simply a joint venture. Like Limey, I'm curious to see what would actually happen, if anything. For one thing, it would throw the organization into several years of confusion.
Title: Re: Drayton gets involved in DirecTV-baseball situation
Post by: Limey on March 01, 2007, 06:57:16 pm
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For one thing, it would throw the organization into several years of confusion.



I'm sure that the word "more" is missing from that sentence somewhere.