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Title: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 11:38:56 am
What player hold the Astros team record for whiffs in a single season? Who is #2 on the list?

Bonus: What player was the Astros team leader but had the  fewest amount of strikeouts in a season? (non-strike years)
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: No? in Austin on January 08, 2007, 11:44:01 am
Cliff Johnson?
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: Limey on January 08, 2007, 11:45:43 am
If Derek Bell isn't #1 or #2, I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 11:45:48 am
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Cliff Johnson?



Good guess, but no, Johnson never led the Astros in strikeouts.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 11:47:21 am
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If Derek Bell isn't #1 or #2, I'll eat my hat.



Try it with a little salt. Bell is not even in the top 5.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: Limey on January 08, 2007, 11:50:38 am
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If Derek Bell isn't #1 or #2, I'll eat my hat.



Try it with a little salt. Bell is not even in the top 5.


Lucky for me I have a chocolate hat.

Lee May is #1, probably (and ironically) holding both that, and the club hitting streak records at the same time.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: No? in Austin on January 08, 2007, 11:52:08 am
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If Derek Bell isn't #1 or #2, I'll eat my hat.



Try it with a little salt. Bell is not even in the top 5.


Lucky for me I have a chocolate hat.

Lee May is #1.



Oh yeah!  Forgot about Lee May.  Ahum... John Mayberry #2?
Title: Ding!
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 11:54:20 am
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Lee May is #1, probably (and ironically) holding both that, and the club hitting streak records at the same time).



Good job, May had 145 K's in 1972 for the club record.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: Bench on January 08, 2007, 11:55:18 am
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If Derek Bell isn't #1 or #2, I'll eat my hat.



Try it with a little salt. Bell is not even in the top 5.


Lucky for me I have a chocolate hat.

Lee May is #1.



Oh yeah!  Forgot about Lee May.  Ahum... John Mayberry #2?



Toy Cannon?
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: Limey on January 08, 2007, 11:55:30 am
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Oh yeah!  Forgot about Lee May.


As a 7 year old boy growing up in England, I remember his 1972 performance was particularly frustrating.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 11:56:40 am
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Oh yeah!  Forgot about Lee May.  Ahum... John Mayberry #2?



Nope, Mayberry never had a full-time job in Houston...and he topped out at 86 K's for the Royals.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 11:58:51 am
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Toy Cannon?



Yep, Wynn is #2 with 142 K's in 1969. He also walked 148 times that season.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: das on January 08, 2007, 12:27:08 pm
 
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Lee May is #1, probably (and ironically) holding both that, and the club hitting streak records at the same time.  


Is he still alive?  If I buy him a beer, do you think he'll have a "chat" with MoBerg?
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 12:27:45 pm
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Bonus: What player was the Astros team leader but had the  fewest amount of strikeouts in a season? (non-strike years)



Come on folks, take a shot! If you answer this correctly, I have another question ready.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: Jacksonian on January 08, 2007, 12:29:56 pm
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Bonus: What player was the Astros team leader but had the  fewest amount of strikeouts in a season? (non-strike years)



Come on folks, take a shot! If you answer this correctly, I have another question ready.



Buddy Biancalana
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 12:35:07 pm
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Buddy Biancalana



Um, no. Hint: He was the primary catcher in that year.
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: Jacksonian on January 08, 2007, 12:39:07 pm
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Buddy Biancalana



Um, no. Hint: He was the primary catcher in that year.



Ashby?
Title: Ding! Ding!
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 12:43:14 pm
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Buddy Biancalana



Um, no. Hint: He was the primary catcher in that year.



Ashby?



Nice! Ashby led the team with a mere 70 K's in 1979 (in 336 AB's)

Bonus question #2:

In what year did the Astros have the most players with over 100 K's in a season?
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: VirtualBob on January 08, 2007, 12:44:29 pm
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Buddy Biancalana



Um, no. Hint: He was the primary catcher in that year.



Ashby?



There were a couple of banjo hitters in the 60's that might have qualified ... Maybe Ron Brand?  He played a lot of catcher, but I'm not sure he was ever the "primary C".
Title: Re: Ding! Ding!
Post by: Froback on January 08, 2007, 12:51:20 pm
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Bonus question #2:

In what year did the Astros have the most players with over 100 K's in a season?


I doubt I am right, but I would guess 2000.... I figure Bagwell and Hidalgo both were over 100.  Although I am not sure many others were, so that is why I figure I am wrong.  I think the flaw in 2000 is too many people didn't play full seasons, thus not enough ABs to get to 100 Ks, even if on pace for it for part of the season.

 ETA: Given that 03 and 05 have 4 players each with 100+ Ks, I really think my 2000 guess is wrong.
Title: Re: Ding! Ding!
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 12:52:54 pm
Not 2000, but you're close. Real close.
Title: Re: Ding! Ding!
Post by: No? in Austin on January 08, 2007, 01:32:44 pm
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Buddy Biancalana



Um, no. Hint: He was the primary catcher in that year.



Ashby?



Nice! Ashby led the team with a mere 70 K's in 1979 (in 336 AB's)

Bonus question #2:

In what year did the Astros have the most players with over 100 K's in a season?



1998?
Title: Re: Ding! Ding!
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 01:35:41 pm
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1998?



No, but the Wrangler was the manager.
Title: Okay...
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 01:46:07 pm
Need a hint? I'm just trying to be  Co-operative.
Title: Re: Okay...
Post by: No? in Austin on January 08, 2007, 01:51:36 pm
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Need a hint? I'm just trying to be  Co-operative.



That would be 2001.  I had forgotten how many K's Lance Berkman had that season... it was a lot.  I also remember how Jeff Bagwell, of all people, counselled him that he should cut down on the Ks... just a tad.
Title: Re: Okay...
Post by: mihoba on January 08, 2007, 01:55:05 pm
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Need a hint? I'm just trying to be  Co-operative.



That would be 2001.  I had forgotten how many K's Lance Berkman had that season... it was a lot.  I also remember how Jeff Bagwell, of all people, counselled him that he should cut down on the Ks... just a tad.



You are correct. In the 'windy' 2001 season, Bagwell (135), Berkman (121), Lugo (116), Hidalgo (107), and Biggio (100) all reached the century figure in K's.

ETA: Biggio reached the mark on the last day of the season, when Shane Reynolds and the Astros punked the Jakes in St. Louie  TO WIN THE CENTRAL DIVISION.
Title: Re: Okay...
Post by: Taras Bulba on January 08, 2007, 01:58:37 pm
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That would be 2001.  I had forgotten how many K's Lance Berkman had that season... it was a lot.  I also remember how Jeff Bagwell, of all people, counselled him that he should cut down on the Ks... just a tad.



You are correct. In the 'windy' 2001 season, Bagwell (135), Berkman (121), Lugo (116), Hidalgo (107), and Biggio (100) all reached the century figure in K's.



Were any of Biggio's strikeouts on sliders low and away?
Title: Re: Okay...
Post by: JimR on January 08, 2007, 02:17:32 pm
all of them
Title: Re: Okay...
Post by: drew corleone on January 08, 2007, 04:36:30 pm
When was the last time he struck out on a different pitch?
Title: Re: Down on strikes- Astros trivia
Post by: strosrays on January 10, 2007, 07:43:52 pm
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There were a couple of banjo hitters in the 60's that might have qualified ... Maybe Ron Brand?  He played a lot of catcher, but I'm not sure he was ever the "primary C".




And don't forget Dave Adlesh.

I'm not old enough to remember him, but check out Dave Nicholson.  His only season in Houston, in 1966, he got 280 ABs and struck out nearly 100 times.  In a full season, he would have obliterated May's record.

I am guessing the guy had a long, looping swing with a lot of holes in it.  Then again, in '66 in Houston maybe he had shortened it up, because he didn't even come close to his earlier glories with the White Sox -- 126 K's in 294 ABs in 1964, 175 Ks in 449 ABs in 1963.  He led the AL in strikeouts (of course) in 1963, and finished 5th in 1964, despite getting less than 300 ABs.  That's Kingman territory.