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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: jaklewein on December 09, 2006, 04:13:31 pm
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The last couple years I looked at the Astros as more of a "win now" type team. With aging veterans playing key roles on the team, such as Bags, Bidge, Kent, Pettitte, Ausmus & Clemens...I kind of felt like the Astros, for the last two/three seasons, was a team that I could justify trading away prime talent from our farm system on a player(s) that might put the team over the hump.
Bags, Kent, Pettitte and Clemens (in all likihood) are now gone. Bidge and Ausmus will be taking on part time roles this year. Hell, even Springer has moved on.
Anyhow, to the point...
Is this really the time to trade a prospect like Hirsh for a one year rental? Hey, I wanna win on an annual basis like everyone else, but at what point does Pup decide that Jennings or Vasquez or Beurhle or Garland just isn't worth trading way two of our best young players in Hirsh and say WillyT? I mean, how far fetched is it to think that Hirsh could put up similar numbers to the above mentioned names in '06...and if not in '06, what about '07?
I'd rather see us go after a difference maker in Willis or Peavy, etc. And if a pitcher of similar stature can't be had, then I say work with what we got...take our chances in '06...and ultimately look to '07 as the year we go for it all again.
Last thing...this doesn't mean I don't think we can win this year...I mean, I'll support whatever moves Pup makes. I just don't want to see us piss away some of the better farm players in our system for a couple players that aren't going to make a difference.
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I agree. Let's play 2006 with what we got and.....what? Already? Well, fuck.
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Is this really the time to trade a prospect like Hirsh for a one year rental? Hey, I wanna win on an annual basis like everyone else, but at what point does Pup decide that Jennings or Vasquez or Beurhle or Garland just isn't worth trading way two of our best young players in Hirsh and say WillyT?
Thank You! Now that we finally have another big bat in Carlos Lee does is make sense to trade away a guy like WillyT? It nauseates me to think about trading away a guy who can get on base (OBP 0.333) and get around the bases (33 SB) when we have the makings of an order that can generate some RBI's.
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Bags, Kent, Pettitte and Clemens (in all likihood) are now gone. Bidge and Ausmus will be taking on part time roles this year. Hell, even Springer has moved on.
The reality is that the team that went to the World Series in 2005 is going to have little in common with that which will take the field in 2008 and later. If rebuilding is imminent it makes little sense to trade away the players that have every chance of forming the core of that team. With Taveras leading off and Berkman and Lee providing the power behind him we have an offense we can build on. I don't think its worth trading this away for a #2 pitcher.
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The reality is that the team that went to the World Series in 2005 is going to have little in common with that which will take the field in 2008 and later. If rebuilding is imminent it makes little sense to trade away the players that have every chance of forming the core of that team. With Taveras leading off and Berkman and Lee providing the power behind him we have an offense we can build on. I don't think its worth trading this away for a #2 pitcher.
Who's rebuilding? Oswalt, Berkman and Lee are signed for a long time.
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I say work with what we got...take our chances in '06...and ultimately look to '07 as the year we go for it all again.
Did I miss something? Didn't mlb already play the '06 season?
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I say work with what we got...take our chances in '06...and ultimately look to '07 as the year we go for it all again.
Did I miss something? Didn't mlb already play the '06 season?
No, its a do-over since neither the Yanks or Red Sox were there. Its not a real season if one of them dont make it.
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I agree. Let's play 2006 with what we got and.....what? Already? Well, fuck.
Dammit man...obviously meant to say '07 and '08 seasons. Doesn't matter how hard I try I always screw something up in my posts.
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