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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: Arky Vaughan on October 27, 2006, 10:55:14 am
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"With David Eckstein leading the way, St. Louis is just a game away from rendering the baseball world speechless."
Why speechless? Because sportswriters and broadcasters are too stupid after 100+ years of World Series history to figure out that either team has a shot at winning a best-of-seven series?
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"With David Eckstein leading the way, St. Louis is just a game away from rendering the baseball world speechless."
Why speechless? Because sportswriters and broadcasters are too stupid after 100+ years of World Series history to figure out that either team has a shot at winning a best-of-seven series?
Are you mental? Detroit has dominated baseball for the last decade.
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It's obvious because there were 6 teams in the AL who could beat anybody in the NL. The NL won't win a WS or All Star game for the next decade.
Every time I hear that gloss it makes me wanna puke.
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Wait, the Mets are the only team that has a chance.
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The other part of this that gets me is that now the "wisdom" is that St. Louis has this in the bag and it will be over in five. Well, maybe. But if the Tigers win tonight the big story will be how they stunned everyone and now they're going home with momentum. BS all around.
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The other part of this that gets me is that now the "wisdom" is that St. Louis has this in the bag and it will be over in five. Well, maybe. But if the Tigers win tonight the big story will be how they stunned everyone and now they're going home with momentum. BS all around.
Check out the '68 series after four games.
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The other part of this that gets me is that now the "wisdom" is that St. Louis has this in the bag and it will be over in five. Well, maybe. But if the Tigers win tonight the big story will be how they stunned everyone and now they're going home with momentum. BS all around.
Check out the '68 series after four games.
We can only hope for a repeat of 1968. Of course, if the Tiger pitchers don't learn how to field and throw a damn baseball, it will be all for naught.
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"With David Eckstein leading the way, St. Louis is just a game away from rendering the baseball world speechless."
Why speechless? Because sportswriters and broadcasters are too stupid after 100+ years of World Series history to figure out that either team has a shot at winning a best-of-seven series?
Speechless that the Tigers (the Tigers!!!!) who also collpased down the stretch might not win the WS?
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
That's a great attitude towards the folks who keep you employed. I don't know, maybe it's the antagonistic tone in the quote above and his other comments but I wonder if his job is less than secure, despite the national attention he receives.
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
That's a great attitude towards the folks who keep you employed. I don't know, maybe it's the antagonistic tone in the quote above and his other comments but I wonder if his job is less than secure, despite the national attention he receives.
The fact is that we do have options other than the off button. Watching the game we can either use the worrell button and watch in peaceful silence, or we can listen to the radio coverage, AM or XM. As for commentary on baseball, I think we all know what options are available.
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"With David Eckstein leading the way, St. Louis is just a game away from rendering the baseball world speechless."
Why speechless? Because sportswriters and broadcasters are too stupid after 100+ years of World Series history to figure out that either team has a shot at winning a best-of-seven series?
I heard Keith Olberman say, before the series started, that if St Louis won it would be one of the 5 greatest upsets in WS history. I thought that was odd as I'd imagine both Marlins championships, the Reds in 1990, the Dodgers in 1988, the Royals in 1985, the Mets in 1969 were all bigger upsets (my pre-1970 baseball knowledge is fairly limited in terms of upsets in the WS).
I mean, which team has the best player? StL. Which team has the best starter? StL. Which team is the one loaded with playoff/WS experience? StL.
I looked at the betting line and St. Louis was a decided underdog, but even then the betting markets had them at about a 40% chance of winning the series. I'm trying to determine the last time I was so shocked at the outcome of a 7 game series in baseball as to be rendered mute.
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"With David Eckstein leading the way, St. Louis is just a game away from rendering the baseball world speechless."
Why speechless? Because sportswriters and broadcasters are too stupid after 100+ years of World Series history to figure out that either team has a shot at winning a best-of-seven series?
I heard Keith Olberman say, before the series started, that if St Louis won it would be one of the 5 greatest upsets in WS history. I thought that was odd as I'd imagine both Marlins championships, the Reds in 1990, the Dodgers in 1988, the Royals in 1985, the Mets in 1969 were all bigger upsets (my pre-1970 baseball knowledge is fairly limited in terms of upsets in the WS).
I mean, which team has the best player? StL. Which team has the best starter? StL. Which team is the one loaded with playoff/WS experience? StL.
I looked at the betting line and St. Louis was a decided underdog, but even then the betting markets had them at about a 40% chance of winning the series. I'm trying to determine the last time I was so shocked at the outcome of a 7 game series in baseball as to be rendered mute.
There's no disputing the points you make. However, STL was playing some ugly baseball towards the end of the season. That left many, myself included, perceiving STL to be a less than likely winner of the NL, let alone doing this well in the WS. Although, I'm also not one for hyperbole so the "Greatest upset of all time" schtick didn't really phase me one way or the other.
I think the betting odds reflect my personal opinion on the chances STL had of making it to the WS, let alone winning it (should that be the case).
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"With David Eckstein leading the way, St. Louis is just a game away from rendering the baseball world speechless."
Why speechless? Because sportswriters and broadcasters are too stupid after 100+ years of World Series history to figure out that either team has a shot at winning a best-of-seven series?
I heard Keith Olberman say, before the series started, that if St Louis won it would be one of the 5 greatest upsets in WS history. I thought that was odd as I'd imagine both Marlins championships, the Reds in 1990, the Dodgers in 1988, the Royals in 1985, the Mets in 1969 were all bigger upsets (my pre-1970 baseball knowledge is fairly limited in terms of upsets in the WS).
I mean, which team has the best player? StL. Which team has the best starter? StL. Which team is the one loaded with playoff/WS experience? StL.
I looked at the betting line and St. Louis was a decided underdog, but even then the betting markets had them at about a 40% chance of winning the series. I'm trying to determine the last time I was so shocked at the outcome of a 7 game series in baseball as to be rendered mute.
There's no disputing the points you make. However, STL was playing some ugly baseball towards the end of the season. That left many, myself included, perceiving STL to be a less than likely winner of the NL, let alone doing this well in the WS. Although, I'm also not one for hyperbole so the "Greatest upset of all time" schtick didn't really phase me one way or the other.
I think the betting odds reflect my personal opinion on the chances STL had of making it to the WS, let alone winning it (should that be the case).
If you want proof that STL looked awful coming in to the playoffs, look no farther than my (better and better looking) picks to win the WS.
I picked the two teams that were fizzling the worst headed in to the WS. And look where it got me.
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There's no disputing the points you make. However, STL was playing some ugly baseball towards the end of the season. That left many, myself included, perceiving STL to be a less than likely winner of the NL, let alone doing this well in the WS.
Ebb and flow. Teams play good and bad at times. A team in the doldrums just before the playoffs might be ready to go on a hot streak when they begin.
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There's no disputing the points you make. However, STL was playing some ugly baseball towards the end of the season. That left many, myself included, perceiving STL to be a less than likely winner of the NL, let alone doing this well in the WS.
Ebb and flow. Teams play good and bad at times. A team in the doldrums just before the playoffs might be ready to go on a hot streak when they begin.
Yep. What's the saying? "It's a humbling game. You're up one minute and down the next." Did someone famous say that or was it a movie? I can't remember any more. Maybe it's one of those trite, yet true, quotes (some call that wisdom, I suppose) we read/hear from players.
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
Every time I start to allow myself to consider the possibility that someone, somewhere, some time, in some dimension, might have been a worse columnist than Richard Justice, he brings me back to reality.
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Go ahead and mix in the injuries that the Cards were struggling through, the tough final stretch of the year, the long playoff series and rainouts.
Detoit was sitting around (not really), resting up and getting ready for the series while witing for whoever was left standing from the NL.
Does any of it matter? Were the suddenly hot playoff Tigers cooled off by the long wait? Has the weather problems helped the Cards by giving them extra rest days, while the steady pace of games has kept them sharp?
To me, it seems like the media is all about the Cards winning. They hardly noticed the Tigers playing last night, except their highlight real of errors.
Forget the Big Red Machine, and welcome to the Mystery Machine, with Jim "Velma" Edmonds, "Fred" Rolen, "Shaggy" Carpenter, "Daphne" Spiezio, Scooby Pu-jols, and now with Scrappy Eckstein.
"They would have gotten away with it except they made one mistake," said Edmonds.
Darn those meddling kids!
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The other part of this that gets me is that now the "wisdom" is that St. Louis has this in the bag and it will be over in five. Well, maybe. But if the Tigers win tonight the big story will be how they stunned everyone and now they're going home with momentum. BS all around.
Check out the '68 series after four games.
You don't have to go that far back. Look at the '05 NLCS. Stros go up 3-1 and It. Is. Over. StL has NO chance to win three games against Pettitte, Oswalt and Clemens.
Next game, something or other happens. I can't remember. I wish the media would remind me again. Anyway, the Cards win a game and now there is NO chance the Astros can win one of the remaining two games. None.
Then the next night... well, I think you get my point.
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There's no disputing the points you make. However, STL was playing some ugly baseball towards the end of the season. That left many, myself included, perceiving STL to be a less than likely winner of the NL, let alone doing this well in the WS. Although, I'm also not one for hyperbole so the "Greatest upset of all time" schtick didn't really phase me one way or the other.
I think the betting odds reflect my personal opinion on the chances STL had of making it to the WS, let alone winning it (should that be the case).
Detroit beat the Yankees. THE YANKEES. A loss by them to any other team is inconceivable.
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
Every time I start to allow myself to consider the possibility that someone, somewhere, some time, in some dimension, might have been a worse columnist than Richard Justice, he brings me back to reality.
MusicMan let me help you out with that one. I found one in case you missed it.
The Link
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Check out the '68 series after four games.
You don't have to go that far back.
You have to go back that far to see the Tigers & Cardinals, which was my point. Unfortunately, history did not repeat itself. Where's Mickey Lolich when we really needed him? Even after overindulging in the chief sponsor's product, he could field his position!
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Richard Justice comes to the rescue, in his blog he explains our options, "...if you are sick of ESPN, you should get a television with a power button." So, as he lets us know in his articles and blog, if you do not like the way sports is covered, you can stop watching sports.
Every time I start to allow myself to consider the possibility that someone, somewhere, some time, in some dimension, might have been a worse columnist than Richard Justice, he brings me back to reality.
MusicMan let me help you out with that one. I found one in case you missed it.
The Link
I don't care if that is "just" a blog -- presumably part of his compensation is generated as a result of writing that drivel -- you turn in something like that to a j-school professor as an assignment, and it's likely to pick up a big fat "D." Ugh. Good Lord, is that bad. WTF does the "title" mean, anyhow? Sam Houston's ghost? Geez.