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Title: Dagnabbit!
Post by: EasTexAstro on August 21, 2006, 08:33:01 pm
So, I dscide to tune in the game on the radio and work a little late. Terrible reception, but I'll just deal with it.

The call goes something like," Berkman hits that ball well. It's a long drive and it's....we now return you to our regularly scheduled program...."
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Savage on August 21, 2006, 10:40:14 pm
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So, I dscide to tune in the game on the radio and work a little late. Terrible reception, but I'll just deal with it.

The call goes something like," Berkman hits that ball well. It's a long drive and it's....we now return you to our regularly scheduled program...."





I just yelled something not quite that polite in the office on aurilia's jack.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Arky Vaughan on August 21, 2006, 10:41:32 pm
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I just yelled something not quite that polite in the office on aurilia's jack.




Blown saves ... they're not just for Brad Lidge anymore.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: HurricaneDavid on August 21, 2006, 10:47:43 pm
Good to see Garner saved the relievers for extra innings.  Oh, wait.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Savage on August 21, 2006, 10:48:51 pm
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I just yelled something not quite that polite in the office on aurilia's jack.




Blown saves ... they're not just for Brad Lidge anymore.





At this point I'm torn.  Should I root for them to come back and win... only to have to have some thin hope and get pissed off when they find new ways to lose games they should win?  Or do I hope that this series puts the final nail in the coffin and I face reality that this team just doesn't have it.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: drew corleone on August 21, 2006, 11:05:15 pm
What a brutal finish.

The good news is that I'm starting to become de-sensitized to the gut-wrenching ways they keep finding to lose.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: utastro on August 21, 2006, 11:13:17 pm
Let me rephrase your subject. Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck!!

It must have been the Lidge effect that has been discussed ad nauseam.  At least I can go to bed early tonight.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: otterj on August 21, 2006, 11:13:49 pm
Yep. Pettitte was nails, then it slips away at the last second. My heart says never say die, but my brain tells me that this team's postseason chances are mostly toast after this loss. Seems like there's a lack of leadership and an inconsistency that just runs too deep to overcome even in an NL that lacks a dominant team. Mediocrity never smelled so bad.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: No? in Austin on August 21, 2006, 11:14:33 pm
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I just yelled something not quite that polite in the office on aurilia's jack.




Blown saves ... they're not just for Brad Lidge anymore.




The emphasis on getting a few bats for this weak lineup took the focus off the bullpen.  Ironically, this pen has been statiscally one of the better pens in the second half.  However, when you have a lineup that is prone to take a few innings off, you have to have better than just a good pen.

You got to have a shut down pen.

Could an acquisition of another reliever or two change their fortune to date?  I don't really believe so.  I tend to think that the solution for this pen is found within the organization with the good arms they already have.  I think tonight, the riverboat gamble that is Phil Garner played a hunch that Qualls could give him one more inning.  I can hear the callers to the 10th inning show right now though:

"Garner is a moron, why didn't he use another reliever?"

It is extremely easy to be a manager from my couch seat.  But everything Garner did tonight was right, other than have Lane ready to hit in the ninth.  I would've used House instead... but I digress.  Baseball is a game of inches.  If Berkman makes that catch, then Lamb is playing back on Dunn and easily gets a ground ball out.  Aurilla gets pitched diffwrently, and I doubt he hits a homerun (he might score though if he gets on... which he, the new Astro-killah, had done well this season.

So the Astros take a 3-2 lead into the ninth instead.  Who pitches?  Trever Miller?  Brad Lidge?  Pick your poison.  Tonights game had it been played last year or the year before is a win.  My how things, so subtle too, change in one year.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Fredia on August 22, 2006, 12:41:51 am
looking at easttxastro pic made me think how long it has been since bagwell was mentioned in a thread othet than as a very bad suggestion as a alternative to the players on the team now... just think how one year ago he was a major soource of discusssion
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Alkie on August 22, 2006, 12:54:49 am
It's amazing how bad this league is.  If we had the exact same record in the AL right now, we'd be 14.5 out of the Wild Card and we'd all already be talking football.

How did the NL get so bad?
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: David in Jackson on August 22, 2006, 10:07:24 am
There's something perversely cruel about having to endure the tension of a playoff push and a team this lousy at the same time.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Limey on August 22, 2006, 11:04:36 am
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There's something perversely cruel about having to endure the tension of a playoff push and a team this lousy at the same time.



You don't remember 1996 or 97?
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Nate in IA on August 22, 2006, 11:04:39 am
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There's something perversely cruel about having to endure the tension of a playoff push and a team this lousy at the same time.




What, you think getting to the World Series was a freebie?  Paybacks are a bitch sometimes...
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: Arky Vaughan on August 22, 2006, 12:42:09 pm
Did you see Scraps after the game threatening to knock the reporters in the head? His job can't be a fun one these days.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: JGrave on August 22, 2006, 12:47:04 pm
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Did you see Scraps after the game threatening to knock the reporters in the head? His job can't be a fun one these days.




I did hear that.  Something about punching them in the face if they ask about leaving pitchers in or something, right?
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: austro on August 22, 2006, 12:48:19 pm
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Did you see Scraps after the game threatening to knock the reporters in the head? His job can't be a fun one these days.



I didn't see that, but Footer's write-up made it pretty clear that he's got a short fuse these days.  What a painful job.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: No? in Austin on August 22, 2006, 01:26:00 pm
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Did you see Scraps after the game threatening to knock the reporters in the head? His job can't be a fun one these days.




I did hear that.  Something about punching them in the face if they ask about leaving pitchers in or something, right?





Because we all *know* as he (Scraps) knew that whether he leaves Qualls in or takes him out for, say... Brad Lidge... or Borkowski and the Reds manage to tie or go ahead any way, the media and fans will question why he took out a pitcher who the previous inning got the Reds out 1-2-3 with minimal pitches thrown.

He did nothing wrong last night, everything he did was within reason.  A flawed team makes you look worse as a manager than a team that is performing well.
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: JGrave on August 22, 2006, 01:39:42 pm
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Did you see Scraps after the game threatening to knock the reporters in the head? His job can't be a fun one these days.




I did hear that.  Something about punching them in the face if they ask about leaving pitchers in or something, right?




Because we all *know* as he (Scraps) knew that whether he leaves Qualls in or takes him out for, say... Brad Lidge... or Borkowski and the Reds manage to tie or go ahead any way, the media and fans will question why he took out a pitcher who the previous inning got the Reds out 1-2-3 with minimal pitches thrown.

He did nothing wrong last night, everything he did was within reason.  A flawed team makes you look worse as a manager than a team that is performing well.




Are they (media/fans) expecting too much of him with this team?
Title: Re: Dagnabbit!
Post by: No? in Austin on August 22, 2006, 01:48:56 pm
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Are they (media/fans) expecting too much of him with this team?




I dunno.