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General Discussion => Talk Zone => Topic started by: David in Jackson on May 11, 2006, 06:59:00 pm
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Garner pulls Lidge for Wheeler in the 9th. Does this signal a move or not?
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If there is to be a move, Qualls should be in the discussion. He's been mowing guys down lately.
However, I don't think a move is imminent.
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Garner pulls Lidge for Wheeler in the 9th. Does this signal a move or not?
I think it signals that they're officially past the "we're not worried about Brad" stage to something that involves more than just a furrowed brow.
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Lidge got his first "Hold" since before Dotel was traded. I think before the last week or so, Garner and Hickey probably figured they could leave him out there if he got into trouble, and he might work himself out of it. Now, not so much.
In other words, I suspect this means that they still consider Brad the closer for now, but he's on a much shorter leash.
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Lidge threw 35 pitches, just 18 for strikes, went 3-2 on Kent before popping him up, issued three walks and gave up an RBI single. Don't know if you have to read too much into that to see that Garner was concerned about him getting the job done in that inning.
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Lidge threw 35 pitches, just 18 for strikes, went 3-2 on Kent before popping him up, issued three walks and gave up an RBI single. Don't know if you have to read too much into that to see that Garner was concerned about him getting the job done in that inning.
Garner also brought Ausmus off the bench to catch him.
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Lidge threw 35 pitches, just 18 for strikes, went 3-2 on Kent before popping him up, issued three walks and gave up an RBI single. Don't know if you have to read too much into that to see that Garner was concerned about him getting the job done in that inning.
If this was a one- or two-time thing, it wouldn't be a big deal, but he has struggled in almost every outing of the season, some more than others.
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Lidge's performance is definitely worrisome, especially the frequency with which people are getting the bat on the ball. Used to be that people rarely touched his pitches.
But I hope that Lidge's problems don't obscure the outstanding job that Wandy and Qualls did: 8 IP, 1 ER, 5 H between the two of them. Tremendous performance when the team really needed one.
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Well, if Wheels does become the closer, he's already got an intro song: Journey's the Wheel in the Sky. And while that's playing they can show videos of different wheels--bicycle wheels, semi-truck wheels, a unicycle, a tank. It's almost too perfect.
That said, I hope Lidge can bounce back. But it's getting ugly out there.
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i am glad he pulled brad. not only because he needed to can you imagine what it would have done to the morale of the team. the loosing streak needed to end. wandy is the man...
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i think it does. my guess is that he goes back into a semi-setup role until he gets straightened ot, Wheeler stays put and Qualls closes. that is what i would do, anyway. if that Clemens boy signs, maybe he can be the closer. i hear he was great out of the pen last year. seriously, that's not a half bad idea if he thinks his arm will stand it.
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Lidge threw 35 pitches, just 18 for strikes, went 3-2 on Kent before popping him up, issued three walks and gave up an RBI single. Don't know if you have to read too much into that to see that Garner was concerned about him getting the job done in that inning.
Garner also brought Ausmus off the bench to catch him.
Garner almost always brings Ausmus in to catch Lidge, at least this year. I think Munson might have caught Lidge twice.
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If there is to be a move, Qualls should be in the discussion. He's been mowing guys down lately.
However, I don't think a move is imminent.
Qualls seemed kind of shaky at the start of the season. I hope his mowing continues though.
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Garner almost always brings Ausmus in to catch Lidge, at least this year. I think Munson might have caught Lidge twice.
And one of those times was the Brewers game when they came roaring back, and Ausmus had already left the game.
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i think it does. my guess is that he goes back into a semi-setup role until he gets straightened ot, Wheeler stays put and Qualls closes. that is what i would do, anyway. if that Clemens boy signs, maybe he can be the closer. i hear he was great out of the pen last year. seriously, that's not a half bad idea if he thinks his arm will stand it.
That's an interesting idea, but it would require Hamlet to come to the ballpark every day in every city prepared to pitch.
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Lidge threw 35 pitches, just 18 for strikes, went 3-2 on Kent before popping him up, issued three walks and gave up an RBI single. Don't know if you have to read too much into that to see that Garner was concerned about him getting the job done in that inning.
Garner also brought Ausmus off the bench to catch him.
Garner almost always brings Ausmus in to catch Lidge, at least this year. I think Munson might have caught Lidge twice.
This is the only downside of Munson over Chavez (or Quintero): he's option for a defensive replacement, not giving Brad as many full days off.
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Garner also brought Ausmus off the bench to catch him.
This is S.O.P. Anybody want to see Munson trying to deal with a Lidge slider in the dirt? Didn't think so.
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Lidge threw 35 pitches, just 18 for strikes, went 3-2 on Kent before popping him up, issued three walks and gave up an RBI single. Don't know if you have to read too much into that to see that Garner was concerned about him getting the job done in that inning.
Garner also brought Ausmus off the bench to catch him.
Garner almost always brings Ausmus in to catch Lidge, at least this year. I think Munson might have caught Lidge twice.
This is the only downside of Munson over Chavez (or Quintero): he's option for a defensive replacement, not giving Brad as many full days off.
They never trusted Chavez, nor yet Quintero catching the (good) Lidge slider either.
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i think it does. my guess is that he goes back into a semi-setup role until he gets straightened ot, Wheeler stays put and Qualls closes. that is what i would do, anyway. if that Clemens boy signs, maybe he can be the closer. i hear he was great out of the pen last year. seriously, that's not a half bad idea if he thinks his arm will stand it.
Pretty pricey for a closer. Plus, as a reliever, he'd have to travel with the team for every game.
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true. far be it from a team to require the same thing from the Drama Queen that all others must do.
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i think it does. my guess is that he goes back into a semi-setup role until he gets straightened ot, Wheeler stays put and Qualls closes. that is what i would do, anyway. if that Clemens boy signs, maybe he can be the closer. i hear he was great out of the pen last year. seriously, that's not a half bad idea if he thinks his arm will stand it.
Pretty pricey for a closer. Plus, as a reliever, he'd have to travel with the team for every game.
Well... he could pitch with a bloody sock. That might get him a little attention.
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Hamlet. Perfect.
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Lidge is a closer, and a closer's gotta know that your career as a closer is gonna be pretty short-lived if you can't a) hit your spots consistently or b) come up with something new they haven't seen from you before. All closers think they have a) nailed down and will not accept that they do not until you start yanking them out of games.
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Thanks for the incite.
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Thanks for the incite.
"Incite"? Is that like "sarchasm"?
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one of ya'll always bust me on my use of words. You can take the boy out of Pasadena but.......
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Dude, you always bust me on my use of words. You can take the boy out of Pasadena but.......
Not busting you, I genuinely wanted to know if it was a simple mis-type, or if you were using that spelling on purpose. Maybe my sarcasm meter is jammed on "100%".
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My meaning was to be sarcastic. As in thanks for the new information that you presented to the board.
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Oh, now I get it. He meant "insight". I thought he meant I was trying to start something, like "inciting a riot". Nothing like confusing the audience when you are trying to stick it to a Clark like me.
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Damn you got me. That hurts.
Now why don't you try to add value to the site or better yet go away.
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Well, if Wheels does become the closer, he's already got an intro song: Journey's the Wheel in the Sky. And while that's playing they can show videos of different wheels--bicycle wheels, semi-truck wheels, a unicycle, a tank. It's almost too perfect.
That said, I hope Lidge can bounce back. But it's getting ugly out there.
I really, really like your Wheel themed intro idea. Somehow we need to get this sold in to Drayton, it would be great.
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Tough crowd down there at SSH.
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Nope, try again.
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You kinda like to have the last word, don't you?
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yep.