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Title: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Tralfaz on December 30, 2005, 10:29:56 am
OK, it's Friday and the girls in All-Star Pitcher arrested/Hotties from the 60's thread have been exhausted.  So, you.  You're asleep and dreaming you have tickets to a Friday thru Sunday series that will feature the Astros from the past/present that you have always dreamed of seeing play in thier prime.  Name your rotation, set your line up and choose your beer.  Doesn't have to be greatest ever just your personal choices.

I've got-

Friday Night-  Dierker
Saturday Night-  JR
Sunday Afternoon- Nolan

Closer- Wagner

C:   Biggio
1B:  Bagwell
2B:  Doran
SS:  Thon
3B:  Radar
LF:  Cruz
CF   Cedeno C.
RF:  Bass

Beer: Michelada with a Negro Modelo.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: jaklewein on December 30, 2005, 10:53:35 am
I never saw Dierker or Radar play, and that, in and of itself makes me want to agree with you on those picks.  That said, I'd rather plug in Scott and Cammy for my 3 game series.

As far as beer...well, since we're talking about primes, how about the beer I drank in my prime?  I'll go with "The Highlife"...with a few Natural Light Ice's thrown into the mix.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: strobum on December 30, 2005, 11:28:42 am
I'll admit that I'm biased towards guys I've actually seen play, so no Radar, Wynn or Dierker on my list.

Friday Night - JR
Saturday Night - Mike Scott
Sunday afternoon - Roy O

Closer - Lidge

C - Ashby
1B - Bagwell
2B - Biggio
3B - Caminiti
SS - Thon
RF - M. Alou
CF - Cedeno
LF - Berkman

Beer: Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: JimR on December 30, 2005, 11:35:57 am
fun! i changed your premise a tad to a 25 man:

ROTATION
Richard
Niekro
Ryan
Pettitte
Oswalt

BULLPEN
Sambito
Woodeschick
Dotel
Lidge
Wagner

C
Ashby
1B
Bagwell
2B
Biggio
3B
Rader
SS
Thon
LF
Cruz
CF
Cedeno
RF
Wynn

RH PH
M. Alou
LH PH
Berkman

UTILITY/BENCH
Reynolds
Puhl
Ausmus
Doran
Glenn Davis

Pilsner Urquell

PS i left Mike Scott off, obviously, but i am not sure who i would bump to insert him.
PPS damn. Watson should be on my roster.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Taras Bulba on December 30, 2005, 11:40:34 am
What, no *Jesus* Alou?

Guinness.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Andyzipp on December 30, 2005, 11:49:56 am
I agree with Jim's lineup...except I'd have Don Wilson instead of Andy Pettitte.

And Shiner 96.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: lc_db on December 30, 2005, 11:57:51 am
Manager:  Hal Lanier

Friday Night: Nolan Ryan
Saturday Night: Jerry Reuss
Sunday Afternoon: JR Richard

Closer: Brad Lidge

C: John Bateman
1B: Rusty Staub
2B: Billy Doran
SS: Dickie Thon
3B: Doug Radar
LF: Jose Cruz
CF: Cesar Cedeno
RF: Lance Berkman

Friday night:  Don Sutton gets hit in the head by a BP line drive straightening out his perm.

Saturday night:  The wife is thrilled with the late inning battery of Joe Sambito and Brad Ausmus.

Sunday afternoon:  On Scipio Spinks Bobble Head Day, Hal decides to dispell all rumblings that the Astros are a racist organization and goes with:

C:  Cliff Johnson
1B:  Lee May
2B:  Joe Morgan
SS:  Sonny Jackson
3B:  Enos Cabell
LF:  Billy Hatcher
CF:  Jimmy Wynn
RF:  Bob Watson

Beer:  Bass (NOT Kevin)
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Tralfaz on December 30, 2005, 12:05:26 pm
There is something sickly fascinating about seeing the 19 to 20 yr old version of Larry Dierker.  I just can't decide which game I would choose.

June 14, 1966: 19 year old Dierker outdueling Hall-of-Famer Sandy Koufax, winning 3-0 on five hits over the Dodgers.  

September 30, 1966: 20 year old version taking a perfect game into the ninth inning against the Mets, only to loose  1-0.  IIRC, would have made him the youngest MLB player to pitch a perfect game.

July 09 1976: Dierker tosses fifth no-hitter in franchise history, to blank the Expos 6-0 .  

I think option two.  Near perfection at age 20.  Like an operatic Italian tragedy, with no run support.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: jwhudson on December 30, 2005, 12:18:22 pm
If we are going for prime.  I would love to see this.

Tony Pena             C
Jeff Bagwell   1B
Joe Morgan   2B
Dickie Thon   SS
Ken Caminiti   3B
Jose Cruz            OF
Richard Hidalgo   OF
Jim Wynn            OF
   
J.R. Richard   P
Roy Oswalt   P
Roger Clemens   P

Brad Lidge        P

Dos XX Green Bottle
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: UpTooLate on December 30, 2005, 12:27:05 pm
Great lineup Jim.

You could also have fun developing a dis-astro lineup.  Redding, Lugo, Merced, Chen, Micelli....etc.  Include some refreshing Keystone Light....
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: JimR on December 30, 2005, 12:33:01 pm
disagree that Micelli was "disastrous." he pitched the Astros into the playoffs that year.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: BudGirl on December 30, 2005, 12:36:54 pm
1B - Bagwell
2B - Biggio
3B - Caminitti
SS - Everett
OF - Beltran
OF - Alou
OF - Hidalgo
C - Ausmus

P - Kile
P - Oswalt
P - Ryan
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Limey on December 30, 2005, 12:49:12 pm
Quote:

Shiner 96.



A particularly good year.  The long spring greatly enhanced the toxins...errr....tannins.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Limey on December 30, 2005, 12:50:46 pm
Quote:

I think option two.  Near perfection at age 20.  Like an operatic Italian tragedy, with no run support.



The cool thing about this choice is that you wouldn't need a time machine for the balance of the team.  Just give him the 2005 offense.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Limey on December 30, 2005, 12:57:17 pm
Re: Your avatar

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."

 - George W. Bush, April 20, 2004

Source: the White House.gov website
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: strosrays on December 30, 2005, 03:12:10 pm
Rotation
RHP - DIERKER, Larry
LHP - ROBERTS, Dave
RHP - OSWALT, Roy
LHP - CUELLAR, Mike
RHP - GRIFFIN, Tom

Bullpen
RHP - RAY, Jim
RHP - LOPEZ, Aurelio
RHP - DAWLEY, Bill
LHP - LEMASTER, Denny
RHP - FORSCH, Ken or SMITH, Dave (closer)

Lineup
C -- EDWARDS, Johnny*
1B - BAGWELL, Jeff
2B - DORAN, Bill#
3B - WALLING, Denny*
SS - MENKE, Denis
LF - BERKMAN, Lance#
CF - CEDENO, Cesar
RF - WYNN, Jim

Bench
INF - SPIERS, Bill*
INF - LANDESTOY, Rafael# (also PR)
INF/OF - LOPES, Davey (platoon w/Walling)
OF/1B - STAUB, Rusty*
1B/OF - WATSON, Bob
C/1B/OF - JOHNSON, Cliff (DH in AL parks)
C - AUSMUS, Brad (platoon w/Edwards)

MANAGER - VIRDON, Bill
PITCHING COACH - HOOD, Paul
HITTING COACH - FAZIO2B ("Hit up on the ball")
1ST BASE COACH - CRUZ SR., Jose
3RD BASE COACH - PARKER, Salty
BENCH COACH/ENFORCEMENT - OTT, Ed

P.A. ANNOUNCER - EUSEBIO, Tony

Radio
PBP - ELSTON, Gene
COLOR - DIERKER, Larry (between starts)

Television
PBP - BROWN, Bill
COLOR - DESHAIES, Jim

Door Greeters
WORRELL, Bill
PASSE, Loel
HANCKEN, Buddy

SINGER (Nat'l Anthem, etc.) - MAYE, Lee
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: HurricaneDavid on December 30, 2005, 08:22:11 pm
2B Biggio-Bruntlett
CF Taveras
1B Berkman
3B Ensberg
RF Lane
LF Burke
C Ausmus
SS Everett
P Oswalt-Qualls-Wheeler
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Limey on December 30, 2005, 11:51:40 pm
Quote:

Re: Your avatar

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."

 - George W. Bush, April 20, 2004

Source: the White House.gov website




Tried to edit this but time has expired.  For the record, this was not a dig at UTL.  Just me being in a funky mood.

Also, FTR, I think jokes about Clinton are entirely deserved.  I like to think that I'm an equal opportunity wiseass.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Tralfaz on December 31, 2005, 12:46:20 am
Quote:

P.A. ANNOUNCER - EUSEBIO, Tony




Wonderful list, but I hope you considered Enos Cabell here as well.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on December 31, 2005, 10:43:48 am
Operating on the premise that I got the player's best year with the Astros..

Starting Rotation

Joe Niekro
J.R. Richard
Roy Oswalt
Mike Hampton
Mike Scott

Relief Pitchers

Billy Wagner
Brad Lidge
Dave Smith
Joe Sambito
Fred Gladding
Jim Ray

Infield

Jeff Bagwell
Craig Biggio
Dickie Thon
Doug Rader
Alan Ashby

Outfield

Jim Wynn
Cesar Cedeno
Richard Hidalgo

Reserves

Lance Berkman
Denny Walling
Phil Garner
Bill Spiers
Brad Ausmus
Kevin Bass

Manager

Larry Dierker
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on December 31, 2005, 10:58:06 am
Quote:

Quote:

Re: Your avatar

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution."

 - George W. Bush, April 20, 2004

Source: the White House.gov website




Tried to edit this but time has expired.  For the record, this was not a dig at UTL.  Just me being in a funky mood.

Also, FTR, I think jokes about Clinton are entirely deserved.  I like to think that I'm an equal opportunity wiseass.





I like the new avatar... didn't know Roland made a D-80 in '63.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Señor Stan on December 31, 2005, 11:50:10 pm
Quote:

Great lineup Jim.

You could also have fun developing a dis-astro lineup.  Redding, Lugo, Merced, Chen, Micelli....etc.  Include some refreshing Keystone Light....





I'm game

C Bleach Meluskey
1B Sid Bream
2B Rafael Landestoy
3B Chris Truby
SS Ricky Gutierrez
LF Eric Anthony
CF Roger Cede?o
RF Richard Hidalgo

Rotation
Chris Holt
Tim Redding
Dwight Gooden
Greg Swindell
Doug Brocail

Bullpen

Mitch Williams
Powell
Weathers
Yorkis Perez
Hipolito Prichardo
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Limey on January 01, 2006, 05:49:10 pm
Quote:

Rotation
Chris Holt
Tim Redding
Dwight Gooden
Greg Swindell
Doug Brocail




No room for Lima?
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Chad Qualls Himself on January 01, 2006, 07:39:05 pm
He's the spot starter
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Zan on January 01, 2006, 11:24:52 pm
C: Eusebio
1B: Davis
2B: Biggio
SS: Reynolds
3B: Ensberg

Starter: Pettitte
Middle Relief: Mathis
Closer: Smith
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Señor Stan on January 01, 2006, 11:58:10 pm
Quote:

Quote:

Rotation
Chris Holt
Tim Redding
Dwight Gooden
Greg Swindell
Doug Brocail




No room for Lima?





Too many good memories.  Beeleebit!
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: Tralfaz on January 02, 2006, 12:56:07 am
Quote:

Quote:

Rotation
Chris Holt
Tim Redding
Dwight Gooden
Greg Swindell
Doug Brocail




No room for Lima?





Jim Clancy demands the right to give up 14 runs in one inning to the Reds one more time.
Title: Re: Astros Dream Series
Post by: ducktaper on January 02, 2006, 01:27:37 pm
glad to see someone's list had Spier coming off the bench.