Post by: bubba on October 16, 2005, 10:27:01 pm
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2005, 10:27:52 pm
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foulpoleuptheass to congratulate us on the Astro win. Has he been ejected a la russa or is he still dropping f-bombs to umpires like the classy organization he so admires?
Don't invite the devil into our house.
Post by: HurricaneDavid on October 16, 2005, 10:28:19 pm
Post by: NeilT on October 16, 2005, 10:34:05 pm
The Link
Post by: Alkie on October 16, 2005, 10:37:29 pm
I'm glad we won, I don't have to be excited about the umpiring.
Appreciate you keeping a close eye on me.
Post by: NeilT on October 16, 2005, 10:40:25 pm
Just think, Alkie, I just said there was nothing odd about your behavior.
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2005, 10:41:31 pm
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I don't feel the least bit bad about it. The umpiring was a fucking joke.
I'm glad we won, I don't have to be excited about the umpiring.
Appreciate you keeping a close eye on me.
Birdsonthebat is a good site. Kind of like the Card version of us. Those idiots from the Post-Dispatch and the Sports Lounge, however...
Post by: Alkie on October 16, 2005, 10:43:29 pm
I just felt like if *I* were on the other side of Cuzzi's Spotlight Game tonight, I'd have been NUCLEAR. I don't think he cost the Cards the game, far from it. I think he lowered the integrity of this particular game. Will I take the win? Fuck yeah.
But I don't have to look back and say blindly (because we won) everything was fine.
It wasn't. I've always hated Cuzzi.
Post by: UpTooLate on October 16, 2005, 10:44:18 pm
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I don't feel the least bit bad about it. The umpiring was a fucking joke.
I'm glad we won, I don't have to be excited about the umpiring.
Appreciate you keeping a close eye on me.
Very interesting Alkie. Hard to determine if you were being just an upstanding good fan for the Astros or setting them up for the shot to the kneecaps.
Post by: Alkie on October 16, 2005, 10:46:48 pm
Somehow, I don't see my "NORMAL" personality going over too well.
Post by: Alkie on October 16, 2005, 10:47:56 pm
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Birdsonthebat is a good site. Kind of like the Card version of us. Those idiots from the Post-Dispatch and the Sports Lounge, however...
Yeah, I agree. Had never been there before tonight. It was just like us but without the swearing-like-wounded-pirates. And they talk about some other baseball club.
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2005, 10:49:31 pm
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Yeah, I agree. Had never been there before tonight. It was just like us but without the swearing-like-wounded-pirates. And they talk about some other baseball club.
And we're nothing without the swearing.
Post by: NeilT on October 16, 2005, 10:50:04 pm
I haven't minded the Post Dispatch site. There are some stupid posters, but also some good posters, and there's a ton of traffic. Sooner or later every notion floats through. Plus some of them wail more than at the AB site. Slightly.
Post by: Alkie on October 16, 2005, 10:52:37 pm
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2005, 10:54:39 pm
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Hadn't seen AB yet. Who is he? Total ass?
Yes.
Post by: Alkie on October 16, 2005, 10:55:48 pm
Post by: NeilT on October 16, 2005, 10:55:55 pm
The Link
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2005, 11:06:48 pm
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One of ours? I mean, from here?
Check your pm
Post by: JimR on October 16, 2005, 11:09:08 pm
Post by: NeilT on October 16, 2005, 11:09:28 pm
Post by: bubba on October 16, 2005, 11:13:03 pm
Post by: JimR on October 17, 2005, 01:21:00 am
Post by: homer on October 17, 2005, 01:27:01 am
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...the Tank Commander falls in battle to rally his troops.
My old man was convinced of this as well.
Didn't work.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 01:45:53 am
The Astros played another great game and the Birds played another less than great game. The home plate ump sucked the entire game for both sides and decided that simply being a bad ump wasn't getting him enough Tv time. (I say that only half joking)
Backe pitched a great game and was able to take advantage of the idiot behind the plate, as did Soup. MMP's diminsions gave the Astros a home run and took one away from the Cards. Marquis probable signed his ticket out of STL by running his mouth earlier this week and then when he gets into the game he fails to make two basic plays, fielding a bunt and laying down a bunt. Pujols is the only guy in the Cards lineup thats showed up the last 3 games and even thought the play turned out bad, I like the agressiveness of him going on the play in the 9th.
Post by: JimR on October 17, 2005, 01:51:45 am
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 01:54:21 am
Do you guys do this in every park, or just ours? After every road series, do you measure the difference between Busch and the road stadium and say things like "well, if we had just been playing at home, that would have been" or "that wouldn't have been"?
Do you think the Cardinals were not aware of the dimensions in MMP and this is why they failed, again, to "take advantage of them"?
Perhaps you could call them and warn them. I'd hate for this to continue going unnoticed until after the games in which the Astros hit a jobby into the Crawfords and the Cards don't.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:00:00 am
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do you whine about every park your heroes play in, troll? was LaGenius pissed when his pitchers benefitted from the wide strike zone? does your team ever just plain get beat? you had runners at first and third with NO outs, and you did not score. take your whiny ass excuses and fuck off. go lick your wounds somewhere else.
"As did Soup" means that Suppan took advantage too. I"m not whinning about your park. Not blaming. I said the Astros played a great game. The Cards didn't get any breaks and the Astros played a great game. in a 2-1 game one team didn't simply dominate so a break here or a break there EFFECT the game. I"m not whinying, bitching or anything else. Just stating what I thought of the game. In the last 3 games the Astros outplayed the Cards. Because I mention things that effect the game doesn't mean I'm diminishing how great the Astros played.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:01:42 am
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Let me ask you something. I mean this quite seriously.
Do you guys do this in every park, or just ours? After every road series, do you measure the difference between Busch and the road stadium and say things like "well, if we had just been playing at home, that would have been" or "that wouldn't have been"?
Do you think the Cardinals were not aware of the dimensions in MMP and this is why they failed, again, to "take advantage of them"?
Perhaps you could call them and warn them. I'd hate for this to continue going unnoticed until after the games in which the Astros hit a jobby into the Crawfords and the Cards don't.
I'm not blaming the park or botching about the park. Just stating that in another park the game plays out differently and the Astros did a great job today taking advantage of the situations and the Birds did not.
Post by: tophfar on October 17, 2005, 02:04:09 am
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I'm not blaming the park or botching about the park.
Just stating that in another park the game plays out differently
whoo boy. seriously. said with a straight face.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:04:34 am
Post by: homer on October 17, 2005, 02:06:20 am
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Ok.
That was easy.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:06:38 am
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I'm not blaming the park or botching about the park.
Just stating that in another park the game plays out differently
whoo boy. seriously. said with a straight face.
Ok put another way it was a 2-1 game so it looked like the Astros were playing against a little league team. Is that better?
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:09:05 am
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Ok.
That was easy.
Can't argue with it. He's not complaining about it, just saying that if X was Y, the Mudbunnies would probably be in the Series.
Where's my email?
Post by: homer on October 17, 2005, 02:10:45 am
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Ok.
That was easy.
Can't argue with it. He's not complaining about it, just saying that if X was Y, the Mudbunnies would probably be in the Series.
Where's my email?
The complaining is implicit.
However, you are right... there is no arguing with him.
Post by: UpTooLate on October 17, 2005, 02:12:04 am
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I'm not blaming the park or botching about the park.
Just stating that in another park the game plays out differently
whoo boy. seriously. said with a straight face.
Ok put another way it was a 2-1 game so it looked like the Astros were playing against a little league team. Is that better?
Huh??? Were not Co-ard fans here, but nobody accuses them of being little league. The point you seem to be missing is that the field of play (MMPUS) is the same for both teams. The dimensions don't change between the top and the bottom of the innings. If the Crawford boxes are cheap and easy, then your team is entitled to take advantage of them also.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:13:10 am
If he hadn't, Harold knows what us moron Astro fans would think. We might get the impression EVERY team has a section of seats and a foul pole in fair play. We might never know that 315 down the line is not USUALLY a homerun in other ballparks. Good lord, we may think a fly out to dead center might be outs in other cities as well. Imagine the horror.
Do it. Imagine.
Post by: tophfar on October 17, 2005, 02:14:59 am
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Ok put another way it was a 2-1 game so it looked like the Astros were playing against a little league team. Is that better?
Nope. Just pointing out that those two statemest are incongruous.
Post by: UpTooLate on October 17, 2005, 02:15:55 am
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Do it. Imagine.
Ah geez, now you have me playing John Lennon songs in my head. Make it stop.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:17:35 am
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:19:47 am
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I'm not blaming the park or botching about the park.
Just stating that in another park the game plays out differently
whoo boy. seriously. said with a straight face.
Ok put another way it was a 2-1 game so it looked like the Astros were playing against a little league team. Is that better?
Huh??? Were not Co-ard fans here, but nobody accuses them of being little league. The point you seem to be missing is that the field of play (MMPUS) is the same for both teams. The dimensions don't change between the top and the bottom of the innings. If the Crawford boxes are cheap and easy, then your team is entitled to take advantage of them also.
I said that in jest because every post I make is interpreted as implicit complaining or implicitly knocking the Astros. So Other than saying the Astros are the greatest and the Cards suck, I don't know if I can say anything without being a whining complaining homer.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:22:14 am
You are here to educate; to teach.
Also, to pat us on the head when we are good.
We have a name for people like you.
GENTLEMEN. I propose a new title for Sr. Foulpole. Henceforce, instead of Disappointing Rookie, I suggest "Barzilla".
Post by: pravata on October 17, 2005, 02:22:32 am
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do you whine about every park your heroes play in, troll? was LaGenius pissed when his pitchers benefitted from the wide strike zone? does your team ever just plain get beat? you had runners at first and third with NO outs, and you did not score. take your whiny ass excuses and fuck off. go lick your wounds somewhere else.
"As did Soup" means that Suppan took advantage too. I"m not whinning about your park. Not blaming. I said the Astros played a great game. The Cards didn't get any breaks and the Astros played a great game. in a 2-1 game one team didn't simply dominate so a break here or a break there EFFECT the game. I"m not whinying, bitching or anything else. Just stating what I thought of the game. In the last 3 games the Astros outplayed the Cards. Because I mention things that effect the game doesn't mean I'm diminishing how great the Astros played.
Here's the breaks, neither Sanders nor Mabry could get a ball into the outfield with a runner on 3rd and less than two outs. Twist all you want about the architecture. The Cardinals lost to the Astros because the Astros executed and the Cardinals did not. Period.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:23:34 am
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More to the point, he is here to tell us that our home ballpark does not conform to the 325/375/400/375/325 markings of, say a 1960s Concrete Cookie park, say in St Louis.
If he hadn't, Harold knows what us moron Astro fans would think. We might get the impression EVERY team has a section of seats and a foul pole in fair play. We might never know that 315 down the line is not USUALLY a homerun in other ballparks. Good lord, we may think a fly out to dead center might be outs in other cities as well. Imagine the horror.
Do it. Imagine.
I'm sorry I was pointing something that effected the game, I guess I shouldn't do that. The Astros have taken advantage of the short porch in left and the Cards haven't I've already said that. I"m not saying it's not fair, I'm not saying the CArds should have won. I'm saying the diminsions of the park effected the game, just like they would have if the game was in Busch. No more, no less.
Post by: HurricaneDavid on October 17, 2005, 02:25:36 am
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MMP's diminsions gave the Astros a home run and took one away from the Cards.
You know, if they had played NLCS Game 4 at McLean Little League field #4, St. Louis would have won 131-127. I wish MLB would realize that the short centerfield porch there is a really unfair advantage for the Cardinals.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:27:56 am
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do you whine about every park your heroes play in, troll? was LaGenius pissed when his pitchers benefitted from the wide strike zone? does your team ever just plain get beat? you had runners at first and third with NO outs, and you did not score. take your whiny ass excuses and fuck off. go lick your wounds somewhere else.
"As did Soup" means that Suppan took advantage too. I"m not whinning about your park. Not blaming. I said the Astros played a great game. The Cards didn't get any breaks and the Astros played a great game. in a 2-1 game one team didn't simply dominate so a break here or a break there EFFECT the game. I"m not whinying, bitching or anything else. Just stating what I thought of the game. In the last 3 games the Astros outplayed the Cards. Because I mention things that effect the game doesn't mean I'm diminishing how great the Astros played.
Here's the breaks, neither Sanders nor Mabry could get a ball into the outfield with a runner on 3rd and less than two outs. Twist all you want about the architecture. The Cardinals lost to the Astros because the Astros executed and the Cardinals did not. Period.
And Marquis not fielding the bunt and not laying down a bunt. I've said the Astros played a great game today and the Cards didn't. I've never said the breaks won the game for the Astros or lost it for the Cards. The Cards got out-played again today, and yet they could have still won the game if they had gotten one or two more breaks.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:29:57 am
Wrong again.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:34:01 am
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Actually, what you SAID was...we better come to play this weekend because the breaks won't keep going our way.
Wrong again.
Yes take that as a literal premonition my part. It was a little razzing after 'tipping my cap' to the fans of a team that just beat the Cards.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:34:51 am
(The razzing I mean.)
Post by: Tralfaz on October 17, 2005, 02:36:02 am
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The Cards got out-played again today, and yet they could have still won the game if they had gotten one or two more breaks.
Or a hit when they needed it, instead of a call. Been there buddy.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:37:49 am
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As you can see, you're VERY good at this.
(The razzing I mean.)
I thought you meant talking to people who twist my words and try to find hidden motive that aren't there because I get a lot of practice talking to my wife.
Post by: pravata on October 17, 2005, 02:38:59 am
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do you whine about every park your heroes play in, troll? was LaGenius pissed when his pitchers benefitted from the wide strike zone? does your team ever just plain get beat? you had runners at first and third with NO outs, and you did not score. take your whiny ass excuses and fuck off. go lick your wounds somewhere else.
"As did Soup" means that Suppan took advantage too. I"m not whinning about your park. Not blaming. I said the Astros played a great game. The Cards didn't get any breaks and the Astros played a great game. in a 2-1 game one team didn't simply dominate so a break here or a break there EFFECT the game. I"m not whinying, bitching or anything else. Just stating what I thought of the game. In the last 3 games the Astros outplayed the Cards. Because I mention things that effect the game doesn't mean I'm diminishing how great the Astros played.
Here's the breaks, neither Sanders nor Mabry could get a ball into the outfield with a runner on 3rd and less than two outs. Twist all you want about the architecture. The Cardinals lost to the Astros because the Astros executed and the Cardinals did not. Period.
And Marquis not fielding the bunt and not laying down a bunt. I've said the Astros played a great game today and the Cards didn't. I've never said the breaks won the game for the Astros or lost it for the Cards. The Cards got out-played again today, and yet they could have still won the game if they had gotten one or two more breaks.
You can't even hold it together for a paragraph
"...never said the breaks won...yet they could have still won the game if they had gotten one or two more breaks..."
And still you're ignoring the fact that you typed,
?The Cards didn't get any breaks? ... ?a break here or a break there EFFECT the game?... ?MMP's diminsions gave the Astros a home run and took one away from the Cards?
We see this alot. After some idiot makes a bunch of bullshit statements, gets his ass handed to him, they usually start retracting and modifying what they really meant. We call it crayfishing or crabbing. And no, you can't win. It's likely you have some experience with this.
Post by: Alkie on October 17, 2005, 02:39:10 am
Post by: pravata on October 17, 2005, 02:40:39 am
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Actually, what you SAID was...we better come to play this weekend because the breaks won't keep going our way.
Wrong again.
Yes take that as a literal premonition my part. It was a little razzing after 'tipping my cap' to the fans of a team that just beat the Cards.
As the great Bluebonnet Jeff Kent once said, "you can shove your cap up your ass".
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:41:24 am
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The Cards got out-played again today, and yet they could have still won the game if they had gotten one or two more breaks.
Or a hit when they needed it, instead of a call. Been there buddy.
From my first post.
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Pujols is the only guy in the Cards lineup thats showed up the last 3 games
Edmonds, Walker, Reggie (except game one), Nunez and Gruz have looked like they have no idea what they're doing with a bat in their hands. Yes, some of it has been good pitching, but some of it is their fault too.
Post by: mihoba on October 17, 2005, 02:47:03 am
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Edmonds, Walker, Reggie (except game one), Nunez and Gruz have looked like they have no idea what they're doing with a bat in their hands. Yes, some of it has been good pitching, but some of it is their fault too.
Bullshit. Edmonds is one of the best hitters in his era. He showed that form by lining a double to left. He has made use of the Crawford Boxes in the recent past. Former MVP Walker had a good hard line drive for a hit. Nunez and Gruz just plain suck.
Quit whining.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 02:48:54 am
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You can't even hold it together for a paragraph
"...never said the breaks won...yet they could have still won the game if they had gotten one or two more breaks..."
And still you're ignoring the fact that you typed,
?The Cards didn't get any breaks? ... ?a break here or a break there EFFECT the game?... ?MMP's diminsions gave the Astros a home run and took one away from the Cards?
We see this alot. After some idiot makes a bunch of bullshit statements, gets his ass handed to him, they usually start retracting and modifying what they really meant. We call it crayfishing or crabbing. And no, you can't win. It's likely you have some experience with this.
When someone says "they got all the breaks" or "we didn't get any breaks" they don't literally mean they didn't get a single break in the game.
Post by: Tralfaz on October 17, 2005, 02:52:27 am
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Edmonds, Walker, Reggie (except game one), Nunez and Gruz have looked like they have no idea what they're doing with a bat in their hands. Yes, some of it has been good pitching, but some of it is their fault too.
WFW. Enjoy your ass when it is handed to you.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 03:03:23 am
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Edmonds, Walker, Reggie (except game one), Nunez and Gruz have looked like they have no idea what they're doing with a bat in their hands. Yes, some of it has been good pitching, but some of it is their fault too.
Bullshit. Edmonds is one of the best hitters in his era. He showed that form by lining a double to left. He has made use of the Crawford Boxes in the recent past. Former MVP Walker had a good hard line drive for a hit. Nunez and Gruz just plain suck.
Quit whining.
Edmonds and Walker have a combined 3 hits in 4 games in the LCS.
Post by: mihoba on October 17, 2005, 03:06:04 am
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Edmonds and Walker have a combined 3 hits in 4 games in the LCS.
Good pitching. Get used to it.
Post by: foulpoleincenter on October 17, 2005, 03:09:07 am
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Edmonds and Walker have a combined 3 hits in 4 games in the LCS.
Good pitching. Get used to it.
I wish I would have mentioned that the Astros pitchers had a role in that...oh wait I did.
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Post by: Señor Stan on October 17, 2005, 09:10:04 am
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MMP's diminsions gave the Astros a home run and took one away from the Cards.
You know, if they had played NLCS Game 4 at McLean Little League field #4, St. Louis would have won 131-127. I wish MLB would realize that the short centerfield porch there is a really unfair advantage for the Cardinals.
The Astros use the Crawford boxes to bait opposing players into trying to pull the ball and hitting into game ending 4-6-3 double plays.
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Post by: homer on October 17, 2005, 09:40:36 am
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Are you calling me fat?
Nice.