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Title: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 05:28:17 pm
ESPN cannot contain themselves over the prospect of Judge returning and hitting leadoff. I hope he strikes out four times.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 06:24:19 pm
Altuve!
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: SoonerJim on June 21, 2019, 06:34:41 pm
Well, that was quite a White three pitch whiff
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 06:44:13 pm
That was quite a double-play from Gurriel and Altuve. And quite a stinkbomb from Chirinos/White/Marisnick in the top of the 2nd.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 21, 2019, 06:44:51 pm
I must be two whole minutes behind.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 21, 2019, 06:48:49 pm
That dude is really fast. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 06:49:32 pm
That dude is really fast. 

No shit. If that ball doesn't take a perfect bounce off the wall, Straw would have been standing at 3rd.

I love watching him run. His form is really good. I keep wondering how he would do as a 400m guy.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 06:53:01 pm
Somebody please return last year's Bregman. We really need him.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:00:40 pm
Aaargghhh. Yordan chasing up and out of the zone. He's going to have to learn to spit on those.

Lead-off double goes to waste. Two successive innings with runners on 2nd with no outs, and no runs to show for it.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2019, 07:02:28 pm
Aaargghhh. Yordan chasing up and out of the zone. He's going to have to learn to spit on those.

Lead-off double goes to waste. Two successive innings with runners on 2nd with no outs, and no runs to show for it.

He has played 9 games in MLB.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:06:31 pm
He has played 9 games in MLB.

Oh, I understand that. I'm just thinking out loud on a Friday evening. I'm sure he'll adjust, because his plate discipline is so good elsewhere. He just probably hasn't seen pitchers who can consistently do what they're doing to him right now.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 07:08:49 pm
Fuck Sanchez.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:11:19 pm
I didn't see it, but it sounds like it must have been pretty well struck.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: astrojo on June 21, 2019, 07:15:53 pm
I didn't see it, but it sounds like it must have been pretty well struck.

Didn’t seem like a bad pitch to Sanchez, the mistake was to Maybin.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 07:22:52 pm
Nice job by Jake. And White, for that matter.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:23:55 pm
A run! Let's see if Straw can reproduce his earlier double.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 07:23:59 pm
Sanchez shakes his head after dropping his glove a foot after catching it doesn't get him the strike call. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:25:06 pm
Sanchez shakes his head after dropping his glove a foot after catching it doesn't get him the strike call. 

Sanchez is a butcher behind the plate. I'd like to see them run on him a bunch, because I think that will only feed his sloppiness.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:32:35 pm
Chirinos's glove tech is going to have to re-string his glove; Peacock broke it.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:34:45 pm
Peacock has looked pretty good tonight. That Sanchez blast is the only real blemish. Time for the bats to wake up.

Yankees lead 2-1 after four innings.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:41:36 pm
Altuve crushes a two-out dribbler down the line that seeks out 3rd base and finds it.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:43:09 pm
Alvarez grounds out to short to end the top of the 5th. Astros still trail 2-1.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:50:04 pm
Man, Peacock painted the edges on that Hicks AB. And Judge, too. And he's pretty much been doing that all night.

Still 2-1 after five innings.
Title: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 07:54:17 pm
Peacock is really hitting his spots and the home plate ump is on board.
Title: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 07:55:12 pm
Alvarez' plate discipline is remarkable.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 07:59:42 pm
Alvarez' plate discipline is remarkable.

It really is. And he's only 21 (well, almost 22). I think he's going to be a beast.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 21, 2019, 08:02:45 pm
Keuchel was less than remarkable tonight.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 08:07:44 pm
Straw struck out twice with the bat on his shoulder.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 08:08:16 pm
Astros' lack of interest in swinging the bat is remarkable.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 08:09:16 pm
Straw struck out twice with the bat on his shoulder.

Straw wanted no part of that at bat.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 08:10:56 pm
Straw wanted no part of that at bat.

We're sure leaving a bunch of guys at 2nd base.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 08:16:59 pm
Great outing by Peacock. What a shame if it's wasted.
Title: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 08:17:29 pm
Really nice outing by Peacock.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 08:19:39 pm
I would love to see his cumulative pitch location graph for tonight. I'll bet it frames the strike zone perfectly.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 08:28:28 pm
Altuve with his second strange infield single tonight, this one off of Kahnle's butt. Unfortunately, Alavrez flies out to moderately deep CF to end the inning.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 08:28:39 pm
Must we continue with this?  It's not even Sunday.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 21, 2019, 08:32:57 pm
I guess the Yankees made Encarnarcion take off his chin strap. Fuckers.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 08:34:59 pm
Fuuuuuuck
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 08:35:03 pm
Rondon working his magic again.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 08:53:21 pm
6 walks, 6 hits (4 of them doubles), 1 run. Not a model of efficiency.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 08:53:34 pm
At least it was one less lobster.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: hostros7 on June 21, 2019, 08:53:41 pm
Trying to remember the last time I saw a 10 pitch at bat in which 0 strikes had been thrown.

Fuck, and the one strike results in a GIDP


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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 08:57:40 pm
6 walks, 6 hits (4 of them doubles), 1 run. Not a model of efficiency.

Reddick fouling off balls 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 there before GIDP ain't helping the cause. Britton got two outs without throwing a strike to three hitters.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 08:59:43 pm
Nice 1-2-3 inning for Devo. Heading to the 9th still needing three runs to tie.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:06:26 pm
Bregman passes up two pitches that he could have driven to the Yankees' ridiculously short RF, waiting instead for something he could pop up to CF.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:08:26 pm
Bregman passes up two pitches that he could have driven to the Yankees' ridiculously short RF, waiting instead for something he could pop up to CF.

I've never seen a team that takes as many fat pitches and waives at as much slop as this one.
Title: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 09:08:59 pm
In his last two at bats, Straw has seen ten pitches and never thought about swinging at any.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:09:43 pm
In his last two at bats, Straw has seen ten pitches and never thought about swinging at any.

He's a deer in the headlights.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: SoonerJim on June 21, 2019, 09:10:46 pm
They’re going through motions, perhaps banking on the injured to rejion the team
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:10:47 pm
He's a deer in the headlights.

Hey, at least he's on base.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 09:12:02 pm
Altuve's legs look well.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:12:17 pm
Altuve with a nice surprise bunt single to set up an interesting (intriguing?) matchup between Alvarez and Chapman.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: MusicMan on June 21, 2019, 09:14:53 pm
That swing will not be Alvarez’s finest moment.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: MusicMan on June 21, 2019, 09:15:22 pm
They’re going through motions, perhaps banking on the injured to rejion the team

I hope you don’t believe that.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 09:15:58 pm
This is how teams play in losing streaks.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 09:16:18 pm
SWING THE ... oh, fuck it.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:16:48 pm
That swing will not be Alvarez’s finest moment.


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Nor will taking that fastball for strike three to end the game.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:16:53 pm
2 more LOBsters in a disappointingly anemic performance. I'll be glad when this stretch of futility ends.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2019, 09:17:21 pm
Not a strike.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:17:30 pm
They’re going through motions, perhaps banking on the injured to rejion the team

They'll be banking a long fucking time. It's another month at the earliest.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: geezerdonk on June 21, 2019, 09:17:39 pm
A rare chase by Alvarez. Overall did not look over matched against Chapman. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 21, 2019, 09:17:43 pm
What's that six? seven? in a row?
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:19:09 pm
What's that six? seven? in a row?

Six, I think.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:19:21 pm
Not a strike.

Which? Strike three to Alvarez?  That was all kinds of strike, every day and twice on Sundays.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:20:03 pm
Which? Strike three to Alvarez?  That was all kinds of strike, every day and twice on Sundays.

Yeah, I didn't think there was any doubt about strike three.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:22:13 pm
Yeah, I didn't think there was any doubt about strike three.

First five pitches were out of the zone, but the last one  certainly was.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 21, 2019, 09:22:30 pm
Which? Strike three to Alvarez?  That was all kinds of strike, every day and twice on Sundays.
I wasn’t watching on tv but on the strike box on MLB it was definitely out of the zone.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: doyce7 on June 21, 2019, 09:23:24 pm
Which? Strike three to Alvarez?  That was all kinds of strike, every day and twice on Sundays.
100% a strike. I don't necessarily blame him though, Chapman had basically thrown zero fastballs in the zone. He had to be looking slider and hope the ole number 1 misses

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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: doyce7 on June 21, 2019, 09:24:01 pm
I wasn’t watching on tv but on the strike box on MLB it was definitely out of the zone.


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They need to recalibrate the strike box then

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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 09:24:21 pm
I saw a clear strike.   I don't know if it was gold or blue, though.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: austro on June 21, 2019, 09:25:05 pm
I wasn’t watching on tv but on the strike box on MLB it was definitely out of the zone.

Then they need to recalibrate their tool. It was definitely a strike.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:25:34 pm
I wasn’t watching on tv but on the strike box on MLB it was definitely out of the zone.


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Go look again. It was several ball widths in the zone. I'd post the pitch from GZ, but the asshole who owns this joint doesn't like pictures in posts.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Tom Servo on June 21, 2019, 09:27:41 pm
I just went back to re-watch it.  Absolutely a strike.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 21, 2019, 09:29:40 pm
I tried to copy photo from gamezone but can’t make it work. It showed pitch clearly high and out of zone but.....

Yeah, I just saw the video. Looks like a strike to me too, and even if it was borderline, it is one of those situations where it was too close to take.




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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 21, 2019, 09:31:50 pm
I tried to copy photo from gamezone but can’t make it work. It showed pitch clearly high and out of zone but.....

Yeah, I just saw the video. Looks like a strike to me too, and even if it was borderline, it is one of those situations where it was too close to take.




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Not sure what you're seeing, but the MLB app has it well inside the strike zone. It was on the broadcast box, and it clearly was to my eyes. It wasn't even borderline
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: JimR on June 22, 2019, 08:47:47 am
Looks like I got outvoted. The guy with a concussion said high and away.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 22, 2019, 09:29:32 am
Looks like I got outvoted. The guy with a concussion said high and away.

It wasn't right down the middle, it was in the upper outside quarter of the zone, but I think we'd all be claiming highway robbery if it were our pitcher and it was called a ball.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Noe on June 22, 2019, 12:02:17 pm
It wasn't right down the middle, it was in the upper outside quarter of the zone, but I think we'd all be claiming highway robbery if it were our pitcher and it was called a ball.

Ottovino clearly threw four strikes to Straw in his at bat. The ball he threw low and away was not even an inch or two outside the zone or right on the edge. It was actually two or three inches in the zone. Basically there was no doubt it was a strike other than in the mind of home plate umpire Dan Iosongnia's mind who called it a ball. Ottovino and several other players on the Yankees were headed to the bench and when it was called a ball their reaction was extreme disbelief. Of course Straw took the next one thrown right down the middle of the plate for strike four.  The irony to me was in the very first inning, Peacock threw the exact same pitch and he thought he had struck out Aaron Judge. When it was called a ball, he yelled "FUCK!" and snapped his glove at the ball when it was thrown back to him. He got Judge to ground out on the very next pitch.

The pitch to Alvarez to end the game was clearly a strike, all one had to do is wait to hear from the home plate umpire if he thought it was or not, because unless it was a foot into the zone, who knew if Iosognia would think it a strike or not. He got it right on that one but missed several during the game that had both benches chripping a bit.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 22, 2019, 01:31:40 pm
Not sure what you're seeing, but the MLB app has it well inside the strike zone. It was on the broadcast box, and it clearly was to my eyes. It wasn't even borderline

This is what I was talking about. Looks outside the zone here, but I agree it was a strike.

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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 22, 2019, 04:02:12 pm
This is what I was talking about. Looks outside the zone here, but I agree it was a strike.

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https://www.mlb.com/gameday/astros-vs-yankees/2019/06/21/567497?#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=play-by-play,game=567497

Take a look at the last pitch to Alvarez

Oh here:

https://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=547973&game=gid_2019_06_21_houmlb_nyamlb_1&batterX=&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=&league=mlb&pnf=&zlpo=&cache=1.gif

It's pitch 7
Title: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 22, 2019, 04:23:42 pm
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/astros-vs-yankees/2019/06/21/567497?#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=play-by-play,game=567497

Take a look at the last pitch to Alvarez

Oh here:

https://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/numlocation.php-pitchSel=547973&game=gid_2019_06_21_houmlb_nyamlb_1&batterX=&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=&league=mlb&pnf=&zlpo=&cache=1.gif

It's pitch 7
I’m not disputing if it was a strike with you HH. After seeing the replay I agree that it was. I’m just saying the photo I posted of that pitch clearly shows it out. You have a photo from a different source which clearly shows it in. My issue now is that those sources should match. Especially when my photo comes directly off of MLB’s own app.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 22, 2019, 04:36:37 pm
I’m not disputing if it was a strike with you HH. After seeing the replay I agree that it was. I’m just saying the photo I posted of that pitch clearly shows it out. You have a photo from a different source which clearly shows it in. My issue now is that those sources should match. Especially when my photo comes directly off of MLB’s own app.


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The first one I linked was what the MLB app showed.  The second is more accurate from PITCHf/x. 

And I'm not disputing you saw a pic that showed it outside the zone, I'm saying what you saw is entirely inaccurate.  The replay is available.  See for yourself.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: Noe on June 22, 2019, 04:44:08 pm
At least the home plate umpire was consistent on pitch #1. That is the same pitch he would not give to Peacock or Ottovino. In terms of pitch #7, not even close to being a ball. Clearly not an issue that it was borderline or even an argument for Alvarez to make. Which he didn't.
Title: Re: Astros @ Yankees, 6/21/2918
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 22, 2019, 04:51:13 pm
The first one I linked was what the MLB app showed.  The second is more accurate from PITCHf/x. 

And I'm not disputing you saw a pic that showed it outside the zone, I'm saying what you saw is entirely inaccurate.  The replay is available.  See for yourself.
Already have, and I agree with the strike call.


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