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Title: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:06:54 pm
Fuck these guys, and their asshole former owner. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:11:16 pm
BREWERS:

Gamel, LF
Yelich, RF
Cain, CF
Moosetacos, 2B...what the fuck?
Grandal, C
Thames (is that pronounces "tems"?), DH
Aguilar, 1B
Shaw, 3B
Arcia, SS

Peralta, P


ASTROS:

Reddick, RF
Bregman, SS
Brantley, LF
Gurriel, 3B
Alvarez, DH
Chirinos, C
Kemp, 2B
White (in what might be his last chance), 1B
Marisnick, CF

Peacock, P
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:12:31 pm
Lance Berkman in the booth, as Blummer needs a week off.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Navin R Johnson on June 11, 2019, 07:12:53 pm
Mike Capps doing Astros Radio and Lance Berkman filling in for Blum
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:16:51 pm
Off days seem more like off weeks.

Hope the team feels it.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:18:46 pm
Good grief,  Brad.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: BudGirl on June 11, 2019, 07:19:02 pm
well, looks like brad has himself in a bit of a pickle.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:19:24 pm
1-0 Brewers...bases loaded, two out...
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:20:11 pm
T1:

Gamel strikes out looking
Yelich doubles to CF
Cain grounds out 6-3
BALK!!!  Yelich to 3B
Moustakas walks
Grandal...shiftfuck single...actually through the shift, but still because infielders were all out of whack...Yellich scores, Moustakas to 2B
Thames hit by pitch, Moustakas to 3B, Grandal to 2B
Aguilar grounds into FC, Thames out 5-4 at 2B

1-0 Brewers
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Navin R Johnson on June 11, 2019, 07:20:23 pm
Berkman needs to take a breath. Good lord.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: das on June 11, 2019, 07:21:30 pm
Berkman needs to take a breath. Good lord.

No kidding. The anti-sound bite.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:22:13 pm
Berkman needs to take a breath. Good lord.

He needs a Dr Pepper shake from Whataburger to keep him occupied.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: das on June 11, 2019, 07:27:58 pm
Switched to radio since I’m at the gym. Who is that new voice?  JimR’s mic-mate from RR?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:30:19 pm
B1:

Reddick lines out to LF
Bregman walks
Brantley pops to SS

Peralta made to readjust his sleeve

Gurriel doubles to RCF, Bregman to 3B
Alvarez strikes out swinging

1-0 Brewers
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:31:14 pm
Somebody fix Brantley.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:32:08 pm
I'm out of rye.  Fuck.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:34:54 pm
T2:

Shaw flies out F7
Arcia strikes out swinging
Gamel grounds out 6-3

1-0 Brewers
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:36:00 pm
I just asked Mrs. Hawk to make me a sandwich.  She laughed. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Navin R Johnson on June 11, 2019, 07:36:13 pm
So did y’all catch Berkmans quotes on quitting his coaching job at Second Baptist.  His candor can be refreshing at times sometimes it just makes him sound like an asshole
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:37:49 pm
So did y’all catch Berkmans quotes on quitting his coaching job at Second Baptist.  His candor can be refreshing at times sometimes it just makes him sound like an asshole

He talks too much. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Lefty on June 11, 2019, 07:41:36 pm
So did y’all catch Berkmans quotes on quitting his coaching job at Second Baptist.  His candor can be refreshing at times sometimes it just makes him sound like an asshole
Missed it, what did he say?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:43:57 pm
The Meg!!!!

2-1 Astros
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:44:12 pm
Oppo Shark Taco!
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:46:14 pm
This is gonna be a 2 game extended interview of Lance.

Can't expect him to step in and be a straight color analyst.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Navin R Johnson on June 11, 2019, 07:46:17 pm
Missed it, what did he say?

https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/status/1136749439387938816?s=21

Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Texifornia on June 11, 2019, 07:47:50 pm
So did y’all catch Berkmans quotes on quitting his coaching job at Second Baptist.  His candor can be refreshing at times sometimes it just makes him sound like an asshole
Can you paraphrase?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:49:23 pm
B2:

Chirinos strikes out swinging
Kemp singles to LF
White...0-2...1-2...2-2...3-2...homers to RF, Kemp scores
Marisnick singles to LCF
Reddick strikes out swinging
Marisnick steals 2B, moves to 3B on a TE-2
Bregman pops out F3 in foul territory

2-1 Astros
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:49:53 pm
Somebody fix Brantley AND Bregman.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 07:50:02 pm
Someone's gonna have to grab some PBP, cause apparently I gotta make my own fuckin sandwich.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:50:59 pm
Can you paraphrase?

When he didn't get the Rice job took the wind out of his sails.

(Full quote in that Twitter link above)
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 07:58:02 pm
Top 3

Yelich homers over the bullpen in right (3-1 cookie)
Cain F8
Moustakis F9 on the track
Grandal F9

Mid 3
Brewers 2
Astros 2

Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:01:36 pm
When he didn't get the Rice job took the wind out of his sails.

(Full quote in that Twitter link above)

Why the fuck did he think he'd get the job at Rice?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:02:12 pm
La PIna!!!

4-2 Astros
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:03:02 pm
Pulled those hands way in.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 11, 2019, 08:03:46 pm
Mike Capps doing Astros Radio and Lance Berkman filling in for Blum
I’m really enjoying Capps. First rate!


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Lefty on June 11, 2019, 08:03:47 pm
Why the fuck did he think he'd get the job at Rice?

Because he's Lance Berkman, apparently.  Coaching HS was beneath him but was a resume-building necessity.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:08:11 pm
Bottom 3

Brantley doubles to right
Gurriel homers to left,  Brantley scores
Alvarez Ks swinging
Chirinos F8 to the track in center
Kemp Ks swinging

End 3
Brewers 2
Astros 4
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Jacksonian on June 11, 2019, 08:10:21 pm
How have they pitched Alvarez?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:12:17 pm
How have they pitched Alvarez?

Got him on high cheese and again on a breaking ball in the dirt.  He looked confused.  But it's been two at bats. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Jacksonian on June 11, 2019, 08:13:17 pm
Got him on high cheese and again on a breaking ball in the dirt.  He looked confused.  But it's been two at bats.
.

After the discussion in the TZ I was curious.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:13:22 pm
Top 4

Thames Ks looking
Aguilar F8
Shaw Ks swinging

Mid 4
Brewers 2
Astros 4

Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:14:44 pm
.

After the discussion in the TZ I was curious.

Peralta has gone right after him.  Hopefully he'll be ready next at bat. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:18:27 pm
Bottom 4

White Ks looking
Marisnick flies out to shallow right center
Reddick Ks swinging

End 4
Brewers 2
Astros 4
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:19:43 pm
Somebody grab pbp, por favor.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:22:15 pm
Pence just hit an inside the park HR.

Arlington leads Boston 9-3.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:23:14 pm
Single, double...4-3, nobody out....
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:25:24 pm
Best case scenario: Yelich just singles.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:25:27 pm
Yellich now with a single, double, and home run
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:29:40 pm
Dead duck at home.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:31:16 pm
T5:

Arcia singles to CF on a shallow looper...Jake dives, but can't come up with it
Gamel doubles to LCF past a diving Marisnick, Arcia scores
Yellich singles to RF, Gamel to 3B
Cain...0-2...1-2...2-2...grounds into FC, Gamel out 5-2 at the plate, Yellich to 2B
Moustakas lines into 6U double play, Yellich caught off of 2B

4-3 Astros
Title: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: geezerdonk on June 11, 2019, 08:34:36 pm
Berkman is garrulous but really entertaining. The Twinkie story is hilarious.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:38:04 pm
Uncle Mike with an RBI-triple!

5-3 Astros, nobody out...
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:38:12 pm
Brantley's back!
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 11, 2019, 08:38:49 pm
Bregman and Brantley need to snap out of it..
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: astrojo on June 11, 2019, 08:41:26 pm
Hey hey hey! It’s Matt Albers
Title: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: geezerdonk on June 11, 2019, 08:41:53 pm
Did Cain overrun Brantley's triple? It looked like it hit behind him.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:45:28 pm
Alvarez!!
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: hostros7 on June 11, 2019, 08:45:30 pm
Yordy, yordy.


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:45:33 pm
Alvarez!!!!!

8-3 Astros
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: astrojo on June 11, 2019, 08:45:35 pm
Another 2 run homer! Woo Alvarez!
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 11, 2019, 08:46:42 pm
Pure power.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: geezerdonk on June 11, 2019, 08:47:43 pm
Knock down eight iron.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 11, 2019, 08:48:59 pm
This Alvarez fellow might be fun to watch.


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:53:35 pm
B5:

Bregman...3-0...3-1...singles up the middle
Brantley...0-2...triples off the LCF wall, Bregman scores

That'll do it for Peralta, Albers in

Gurriel singles to CF, Brantley scores

Gurriel steals 2B

Alvarez homers to RF, Gurriel scores
Chirinos strikes out swinging
Kemp...0-2...1-2...flies out F8
White...full up...walks
Marisnick grounds out 5-3

8-3 Astros
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 11, 2019, 08:54:04 pm
OK, i'm done with PBP
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:54:06 pm
Eddings' zone is  consistent:

Everything's a strike.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on June 11, 2019, 08:55:07 pm
Air Yordan is here to stay.


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 08:59:15 pm
Top 6

Grandal 4-3
Thames F9
Aguilar 4-3

Mid 6
Brewers 3
Astros 8
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 11, 2019, 08:59:55 pm
Tony Kemp is pretty comfortable at 2nd base.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: jbm on June 11, 2019, 09:00:38 pm
Damn, just one turn on Lance and he runs and runs and runs.  He is more insightful than I expected though. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:02:23 pm
Tony Kemp is pretty comfortable at 2nd base.

Nice play running to his left for the 3rd out.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 11, 2019, 09:05:32 pm
That fucking amorphous zone.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Navin R Johnson on June 11, 2019, 09:06:29 pm
Berkman has definitely been better the last few inning, now that he is actually talking about.....the actual game.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:11:03 pm
Bottom 6

Barnes (RHP) pitching

Reddick F8
Bregman walks
Brantley safe on a 4-6 FC (Bregman out at 2nd)
Gurriel Ks swinging

End 6
Brewers 3
Astros 8
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:19:07 pm
Top 7

Peacock still on the bump

Shaw homers to the upper deck
Arcia 5-3

Harris relieves Peacock

Gamel F7
Yelich Ks swinging

Mid 7
Brewers 4
Astros 8

Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Waldo on June 11, 2019, 09:20:23 pm
Alvarez’s second homer was more impressive than his first. Outer half three inches below the zone and he *pulled* it for a tater. Crazy.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: das on June 11, 2019, 09:20:55 pm
Why does Capps keep saying it’s 8-5 Astros?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:25:23 pm
Chiri bomb!
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on June 11, 2019, 09:27:00 pm
“Looking for the dog and got the cat.”

Um... ok, Lance.


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:29:50 pm
Bottom 7

Alvarez walks
Chirinos homers ro the alley in left,  Alvarez scores
Kemp F9
White Ks looking
Marisnick singles to left center
Reddick grounds out 4-3

End 7
Brewers 4
Astros 10
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:38:00 pm
Rondon scuffling
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:46:25 pm
Rondón walks in a run.

He does not instill confidence.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:49:15 pm
Top 8

Rondón pitching
Fisher replaces Brantley in left

Cain 5-3
Moustakis lines a single into center
Grandal doubles off the bullpen wall in right,  Moustakis to 3rd
Thames walks to load the bases
Strom out to impart wisdom
Aguilar first pitch F7 (Fisher momentarily lost it)
Shaw walks,  Moustakis scores
Pressly enters,  bases still juiced
Arcia hits into a 1-4-6 FC, Shaw barely out at 2nd

Mid 8
Brewers 5
Astros 10
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 09:55:29 pm
Bottom 8

Burnes (RHP) in

Bregman pops out to 3rd
Fisher taps out 1-3
Gurriel 5-3

End 8
Brewers 5
Astros 10
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 11, 2019, 10:05:07 pm
Damn Devo!! Don’t shit the bed....


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 11, 2019, 10:06:52 pm
WTF Devinski.....


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: astrojo on June 11, 2019, 10:07:06 pm
2 outs including a strikeout of Yelich, then a double by Cain and Moustakis hbp and Grandal 3 run homer. 10-8 now.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 10:08:12 pm
Can't locate the FB
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on June 11, 2019, 10:08:58 pm
More interesting than it needed to be at the end but Astros win!!!!


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on June 11, 2019, 10:09:21 pm
Top 9

Devo pitching

Gamel Ks swinging at the CoD
Yelich misses 2 changeups, watches 2 for balls, then misses to K on yet another changeup
Cain doubles down the line in right
Moustakis hit by a 2-2 fastball
Grandal down 0-2 quickly,  homers to right Cain, Moustakis score
Strom out again
Thames Ks swinging

Final
Brewers 8
Astros 10


Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: BudGirl on June 11, 2019, 10:16:46 pm
Pence just hit an inside the park HR.

Arlington leads Boston 9-3.

Boston sucks.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on June 11, 2019, 10:31:42 pm
Boston sucks.

As do the Red Sox.


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Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Lefty on June 11, 2019, 10:36:28 pm
Boston sucks.

The replay is great.  The RF goes crashing into the stupid wall behind the Pesky Pole and just hangs there thinking it's a home run while the ball hits off the wall and rolls about 20 feet away.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: MRaup on June 11, 2019, 11:02:12 pm
The replay is great.  The RF goes crashing into the stupid wall behind the Pesky Pole and just hangs there thinking it's a home run while the ball hits off the wall and rolls about 20 feet away.

On the point of how awful other team's broadcasters are, enjoy former Astro Radio guy/Muppet Dave Raymond and some other boring ass fuckstick describing said play for their viewership: https://www.mlb.com/news/hunter-pence-inside-the-park-home-run-brock-holt
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: SoonerJim on June 11, 2019, 11:28:26 pm
On the point of how awful other team's broadcasters are, enjoy former Astro Radio guy/Muppet Dave Raymond and some other boring ass fuckstick describing said play for their viewership: https://www.mlb.com/news/hunter-pence-inside-the-park-home-run-brock-holt

The anti-Reddick
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: JimR on June 12, 2019, 08:22:49 am
Mike Capps will be on Astros radio tonight. He was on last night also.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Bench on June 12, 2019, 01:17:22 pm
https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/status/1136749439387938816?s=21

Refreshing candor but confirmation that he's always been an asshole.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Noe on June 12, 2019, 01:45:30 pm
Lance Berkman treated his gig as a color commentator on the television broadcast very much like he used to participate in the radio talk show. Two very different formats but to "Twinkie" Berkman, it was all the same. When he would appear as a guest on Sports Talk Radio in Houston, his candor and storytelling were exactly how he performed last night on the broadcast of the game. Those of us who remember his appearances on Sports Talk Radio (and how they would just wind him up and let him go) knew he speaks with plenty of candor, holds nothing back in terms of his opinions, and usually doesn't mind speaking directly about someone or something. He did that last night when he talked about Biggio, Oswalt, Doug Eddings (the Home Plate Umpire), the NL Central cities (road trips he hated because the downtowns in those cities were ugly), Chicago Cub fans and his gig at Second Baptist. I can bet you that he'll bring along other stories and opinions tonight as well, some of which are pointed right at others he has deep opinions about, like managers and owners. But he tries to balance that out with his remarks about himself and usually, it's not about flattering himself either. So he thinks if he can be self-effacing, he can also be critical of others.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: juliogotay on June 12, 2019, 02:12:51 pm
Lance Berkman treated his gig as a color commentator on the television broadcast very much like he used to participate in the radio talk show. Two very different formats but to "Twinkie" Berkman, it was all the same. When he would appear as a guest on Sports Talk Radio in Houston, his candor and storytelling were exactly how he performed last night on the broadcast of the game. Those of us who remember his appearances on Sports Talk Radio (and how they would just wind him up and let him go) knew he speaks with plenty of candor, holds nothing back in terms of his opinions, and usually doesn't mind speaking directly about someone or something. He did that last night when he talked about Biggio, Oswalt, Doug Eddings (the Home Plate Umpire), the NL Central cities (road trips he hated because the downtowns in those cities were ugly), Chicago Cub fans and his gig at Second Baptist. I can bet you that he'll bring along other stories and opinions tonight as well, some of which are pointed right at others he has deep opinions about, like managers and owners. But he tries to balance that out with his remarks about himself and usually, it's not about flattering himself either. So he thinks if he can be self-effacing, he can also be critical of others.

I enjoyed Lance last night. It is good to sometimes have different perspectives from your color man. If he is serious about doing this much in the future he needs to learn that less is often more from color people.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: mrpink on June 12, 2019, 02:20:32 pm
Refreshing candor but confirmation that he's always been an asshole.
Nothing about that quote makes him sound like an asshole to me.  Is there something else?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: BudGirl on June 12, 2019, 02:24:22 pm
At lunch today, Berkman was described as a religious man doing good when it is for his benefit.  Berkman appears to be doing the same as with his post-mlb career.

And I, personally, thought he was eh.  Not impressed but not offended either.  I might care more if I heard him every night.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: chuck on June 12, 2019, 02:43:18 pm
I never liked Berkman as a player and I especially disliked all the Berkman stans of which there was no lack, but I will happily admit that I enjoyed him last night and look forward to tonight. He's not a color guy (unless white's a color); he's a story teller, which is just fine for a couple of games.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 12, 2019, 02:43:42 pm
And I, personally, thought he was eh.  Not impressed but not offended either.  I might care more if I heard him every night.

Kinda my thoughts too.  He talks a lot, that's how he is.  He'll be fine for a few days.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Bench on June 12, 2019, 02:48:17 pm
Nothing about that quote makes him sound like an asshole to me.  Is there something else?

Lance is all about Lance. Not much thought for the kids he was coaching. I think most educators would note that they really enjoyed working with the kids and found it fulfilling, but Lance was more concerned with what the job would do for him and not the other way around, which sucks when you're talking about children.

I enjoyed hearing his anecdotes last night. He's an amusing guy. But that quote was pretty hollow.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Snuffy on June 12, 2019, 06:20:55 pm
Lance is all about Lance. Not much thought for the kids he was coaching. I think most educators would note that they really enjoyed working with the kids and found it fulfilling, but Lance was more concerned with what the job would do for him and not the other way around, which sucks when you're talking about children.

I enjoyed hearing his anecdotes last night. He's an amusing guy. But that quote was pretty hollow.

I don't know Berkman aside from enjoying him as an Astro.  Enjoyed his stories during the game, but didn't care about his stats.
Last night, did he say that he quit the coaching job once his daughter graduated?  Was she attending 2nd Baptist?
If so, could that point to a more personal reason for taking the job?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 12, 2019, 07:03:29 pm
I don't know Berkman aside from enjoying him as an Astro.  Enjoyed his stories during the game, but didn't care about his stats.
Last night, did he say that he quit the coaching job once his daughter graduated?  Was she attending 2nd Baptist?
If so, could that point to a more personal reason for taking the job?

Did you read his statements on it?  He said flat out that he really didn't like coaching HS, he was only doing to build a resume to try to get the Rice job, and when he didn't, he had no desire to continue.  He's made no secret about why he took the job and why he left it.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: JimR on June 12, 2019, 08:23:47 pm
Bergman is a motor mouth.
Title: "Not everything is as it seems"
Post by: Snuffy on June 13, 2019, 05:57:11 am
Did you read his statements on it?  He said flat out that he really didn't like coaching HS, he was only doing to build a resume to try to get the Rice job, and when he didn't, he had no desire to continue.  He's made no secret about why he took the job and why he left it.

I did read it. 

In "Karate Kid", Mr. Miyagi tells Daniel-son, "Not everything is as it seems" (1:04)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K24jL-06H0&ab_channel=ArmanRousta (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K24jL-06H0&ab_channel=ArmanRousta)

People are complicated, often having more than one reason for doing what they do - some they themselves are not aware of or won't/can't admit.  Kids and schools have changed, mostly for the worse.  I once thot a SRO (School Resource Officer) was a cush job, but no more.  Same w/ teaching or coaching.  All it takes is one or two undisciplined kids to make it very hard to manage a classroom - or team.

Someone else mentioned how much a stretch it would be to think a few years of hs managing would qualify him for the Rice job.  It seemed odd that he mentioned quitting in the same sentence with the timing of his daughter graduation. 

Don't know.  I may well be off base. 

Baseball took close to half of 16 years; don't know how many years she missed her Dad. 
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/berkmla01.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/berkmla01.shtml)

Just a thot.
Title: Re: "Not everything is as it seems"
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 13, 2019, 06:54:23 am
I did read it. 

Well, if you don’t believe Berkman himself, I’m not sure why you’d believe anyone else about it.

 Carry on.
Title: Re: "Not everything is as it seems"
Post by: Snuffy on June 13, 2019, 07:43:37 am
Well, if you don’t believe Berkman himself, I’m not sure why you’d believe anyone else about it.

 Carry on.

I believe what he said. 

Remember Paul Harvey's "The Rest of the Story"?
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: BudGirl on June 13, 2019, 08:14:59 am
Bergman is a motor mouth.

I couldn't figure out why you were dissing Bregman, but then I realized it took some of us a long time to get used to Bregman and now I see the effects in a Bergman (instead of Berkman). 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: JimR on June 13, 2019, 08:27:01 am
I couldn't figure out why you were dissing Bregman, but then I realized it took some of us a long time to get used to Bregman and now I see the effects in a Bergman (instead of Berkman).

Berkman, not any form of Bregman, is the motor mouth. He thought the booth was his personal stage.

Don’t understand your jab, but if you knew what is going on with me, you’d be nicer.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: Bench on June 13, 2019, 11:35:24 am
Don’t understand your jab, but if you knew what is going on with me, you’d be nicer.

I think she was saying that "Bergman" as a common mistyping used to automatically be interpreted as Berkman but now is automatically interpreted as Bregman.

I hope you're doing well and that you get through whatever it is that's got you down.
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: BudGirl on June 13, 2019, 01:37:05 pm
Berkman, not any form of Bregman, is the motor mouth. He thought the booth was his personal stage.

Don’t understand your jab, but if you knew what is going on with me, you’d be nicer.

Carry on.

It was no jab.  and I hope you are better soon.  And I agreed with you. 
Title: Re: Brewers @ Astros, June 11, 2019
Post by: JimR on June 13, 2019, 02:47:05 pm
It was no jab.  and I hope you are better soon.  And I agreed with you.

Ok. Just got some good news so I’ll recover. Story next time I see you.