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Title: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Snuffy on May 27, 2019, 09:47:02 am
Curious about the last time the Astros started a rookie battery:
Jerry Grote's tenure with the Astros (signed 1962) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/groteje01.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/groteje01.shtml), as well as
Craig Biggio's (#22, 1st round draft, 1987) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/biggicr01.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/biggicr01.shtml), were too many years ago.

This article provide a starting point -  https://247sports.com/mlb/astros/Article/Houston-Astros-All-Time-Rankings-Catcher-105508160/ (https://247sports.com/mlb/astros/Article/Houston-Astros-All-Time-Rankings-Catcher-105508160/) - but neither Ashby, Edwards, or Ausmus were not home grown.

So it was narrowed down to
Jason Castro (#10, 1st round, 2008) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castrja01.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castrja01.shtml)

Was Castro part of a starting rookie battery while he was an Astro?

Help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on May 27, 2019, 10:10:08 am
It would appear Bud Norris and Castro were both rookies in 2009. I don't know if they formed a battery.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 27, 2019, 10:27:38 am
Last one I found was Paul Clemens and Cody Clark, September 21, 2013. 

Bonus points if you remember either of those guys. 
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 27, 2019, 10:31:56 am
Last one I found was Paul Clemens and Cody Clark, September 21, 2013. 

Bonus points if you remember either of those guys.

 I was already saying 'Who?' before I read the bonus points sentence.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 27, 2019, 10:32:57 am
I was already saying 'Who?' before I read the bonus points sentence.

Most people blocked those years out of their memory. 
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Lefty on May 27, 2019, 10:35:11 am
It would appear Bud Norris and Castro were both rookies in 2009. I don't know if they formed a battery.

Castro was a rookie in '10, Norris in '09

JR Towles and Jack Cassel, 4/29/08
JR Towles and Alberto Arias, 9/18/08
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: jbm on May 27, 2019, 10:35:24 am
I remember Clemens, but Clark, not at all.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Lefty on May 27, 2019, 10:36:45 am
I remember Clemens, but Clark, not at all.

Same here.  I have no recollection of him whatsoever.

I had hopes for Clemens, I think mostly that was me trying to look on the bright side of the shitty Bourn trade.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 27, 2019, 10:42:19 am
Clark and Jarred Cosart also formed a rookie starting battery in 2013, though it was earlier in the season.  2013 was a tough year.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Lefty on May 27, 2019, 10:48:13 am
Huh, how's this....Max Stassi was still a rookie last year and he caught Framber's 8/26 start.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 27, 2019, 10:51:32 am
Huh, how's this....Max Stassi was still a rookie last year and he caught Framber's 8/26 start.

Stassi may have been technically a rookie last year from a time on the roster standpoint, but he'd played in the big leagues in five seasons before last.  He was first called up in 2013. 
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: doyce7 on May 27, 2019, 10:58:32 am
Most people blocked those years out of their memory.
I fell asleep sometime in 2009 and woke up in 2014. Did something bad happen in between those years?

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Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Snuffy on May 27, 2019, 10:59:49 am
Last one I found was Paul Clemens and Cody Clark, September 21, 2013. 

Bonus points if you remember either of those guys.

Didn't remember Cody Clark.  His tenure was brief: signed Mar 2013, released Nov 2013, w/ 10 starts and 40 AB (4 hits).
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clarkco01.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clarkco01.shtml)

According to this article, https://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2013/08/25/astros-report-jason-castros-hot-bat-cant-sway-bo-porter/ (https://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2013/08/25/astros-report-jason-castros-hot-bat-cant-sway-bo-porter/), he gave Rookie AS Castro a rest during Aug 2013.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Lefty on May 27, 2019, 11:05:20 am
Stassi may have been technically a rookie last year from a time on the roster standpoint, but he'd played in the big leagues in five seasons before last.  He was first called up in 2013. 

I am aware of Stassi's history.  I was just surprised he was still a rookie last year.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Snuffy on May 27, 2019, 11:19:24 am
Did not realize that John Bateman played with the Astros for six years.  If I remember correctly, the promo on him as a rookie was his eating prowess, 5-10 hamburgers at one meal. 

Good read about him here: https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/99158d49 (https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/99158d49)
Signed in part b/c he lied about his age - never "caught".
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Anxious to see where his late-developing talent might take him, John began writing to various major-league clubs requesting a tryout. In March 1962 the newly formed Houston Colt .45s invested $50 — the cost of a sweatshirt, a new mitt and a bus ticket for Bateman to travel to Texas City, site of their amateur camp southeast of Houston — to look at the right-handed hitter. Scout Red Murff, who conducted the camp, took an instant liking to Bateman and urged his signing. Murff did so in part because he believed the 21-year-old to be two years younger.2
 .... But he is one of the few whose lie was never eventually disclosed. Every team roster published throughout Bateman’s playing career incorrectly listed his birth in 1942.
Here's the reason he & Grote decided to quit being roommates -
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Houston turned to a platoon with catcher Jerry Grote whose .181-3-24 batting line did little to improve the team’s offense. The pair quit rooming together on the road because, as Grote joked, “There weren’t any base-hits in that room so we figured we had to do something.”9

He had a tough life.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 27, 2019, 11:52:33 am
Didn't remember Cody Clark.  His tenure was brief: signed Mar 2013, released Nov 2013, w/ 10 starts and 40 AB (4 hits).
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clarkco01.shtml (https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clarkco01.shtml)

According to this article, https://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2013/08/25/astros-report-jason-castros-hot-bat-cant-sway-bo-porter/ (https://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2013/08/25/astros-report-jason-castros-hot-bat-cant-sway-bo-porter/), he gave Rookie AS Castro a rest during Aug 2013.

Castro wasn’t a rookie in 2013. He came up in 2010.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: Texifornia on May 28, 2019, 12:57:16 am
Did not realize that John Bateman played with the Astros for six years.  If I remember correctly, the promo on him as a rookie was his eating prowess, 5-10 hamburgers at one meal. 
I remember Bateman as John Edwards' backup. I remember the day the Astros' Buddies got to go out on the field and "work" with the Astro that played your position. I was with the group of kids that were catchers, we were hoping for Edwards but we got Bateman. As I recall, he was pretty nice and informative and he replaced Edwards as the favorite among some of the kids by the time we went back to our seats in the gold section of the 'Dome.
Title: Re: Trivia Question: the last Astros rookie battery to start a game
Post by: geezerdonk on May 28, 2019, 07:28:36 am
The Dog.