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General Discussion => Beer and Queso => Topic started by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 28, 2019, 05:55:30 pm
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Well they pissed away golden opportunity to win a game in Oracle.
Yes, the refs were so horrible the TV broadcast, including former ref Steve Javie, called them out for 4 clear and 1 probable landing zone fouls on 3 pointers.
But when Curry came back in, Gordon inexplicably didn't challenge him in transition. Then a barrage of iso 3s. Missed FTs. Capela couldn't secure defensive rebounds or handle a clean pass from Harden under the basket.
GS was ripe.
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I just knew if it was close at the end it was going to be a Curry dagger at the finish. Fuck!
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The NBA's so ridiculous I'm not even mad.
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Getting ready to watch the worst officiating of all professional sports. Go Rockets.
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Getting ready to watch the worst officiating of all professional sports. Go Rockets.
Hey, there's always FIFA
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Hey, there's always FIFA
FIFA is objectively bad; the NBA is clearly fixed.
Each of us can decide which we deem to be worse.
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FIFA is objectively bad; the NBA is clearly fixed.
Each of us can decide which we deem to be worse.
I always assumed FIFA was the most corrupt organization in the world, just edging out the five families of NY and the Trump administration.
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The IOC is happy with the above conversation.
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Game in the balance, multiple possessions where Capela is being asked to catch the ball, finish, or hit FTs.
He does none of these.
Yet they persist.
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For about the fifth year in a row, the Rockets are the second best team in the league. But these Warriors teams are probably the greatest team in the history of basketball. It’s tough to take.
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When teams take away the pick and roll, like the Jazz did after the 1st 2 games, like GS has done, the Rockets offense is just painful to watch. The have no plan B other than 1-on-1 dribble, dribble, dribble
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1-on-1 dribble, dribble, dribble
And then shoot a 30-foot shot. This is today's NBA.
Pair that with the fact that it is plainly rigged, well, I don't know why rational people take the time.
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And then shoot a 30-foot shot. This is today's NBA.
Pair that with the fact that it is plainly rigged, well, I don't know why rational people take the time.
Because they are making all that sweet gambling money!
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Because they are making all that sweet gambling money!
In was going to ask why people would bet on something so clearly rigged, and then my brain smacked me upside the head with the word "boxing".
Still, I don't even watch the NBA because it's rigged, let alone put hard-earned money on it!
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Rockets with a big win. Need another on Monday.
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Well they secured an OT victory in game 3. Hard fought win.
-thank goodness GS went away from KD down the stretch/OT. Late 4th a p&r left CP3 on Durant. Curry opted to go 1 on 1 and took an 18 foot fadeaway that clanged.
-can't believe Curry missed 2 layups in OT
-can't believe they quit after the last one and didn't try to extend it. Guess desperately trying to win down 5 is beneath them. Arrogant fucks.
-iso ball makes me want to puke, especially when it results in a 3PA. Eliminates all pressure on 4 defenders. Eliminates any contribution your 4 teammates can make. Yes they make some. And I cheered when Harden made the last one. But it's awful to watch.
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Curry getting stuffed by the rim on the break away dunk was hilarious. Can't believe the Warriors didn't foul. It was a 5-point game with 16 seconds left.
Harden was nails in the last two minutes.
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Hot start to the 4th.
Stay aggressive on offense and don't start fouling like in the 3rd.
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Still plenty of time to beat themselves.
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These possessions are awful.
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https://youtu.be/MqBNSMbEzI0 (https://youtu.be/MqBNSMbEzI0)
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Maybe someone should inform the Rockets that effort on rebounds make winning basketball games easier
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Capela can't finish a sentence tonight.
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KD out and tied through 3. This is the biggest chance the Rockets will get.
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The leeway that Draymond gets is unbelievable.
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Step out of bounds, give up an offensive rebound, then watch them drain a 3.
Sickening.
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4 point game, Curry loses Tucker but meets good help defense and forces up a 13 footer.
The help defender flew past Curry. Tucker recovers but goes to the basket instead of blocking Curry out. Of course the ball caroms back to Curry who is fouled.
Its a damn fundamental for a reason. Get a body on an opponent, then locate the ball. Especially the fucking shooter.
2 offensive rebounds turn into 5 points in crunch time.
Opportunity blown.
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...and there's the whole problem of Chris Paul aging faster than the vampire in the last five minutes of a Hammer horror film.
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...and there's the whole problem of Chris Paul aging faster than the vampire in the last five minutes of a Hammer horror film.
Chris Paul had the opportunity to cement himself as a legend last year, and soiled his panties.
Last night, by the way, was the 49th anniversary of the night Willis Reed decided to put on his big boy pants and lead his team to a championship. I doubt Paul noticed.
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He's shooting 27% from 3.
Feels like he's shooting 2%.
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Last night, by the way, was the 49th anniversary of the night Willis Reed decided to put on his big boy pants and lead his team to a championship. I doubt Paul noticed.
Walt Frazier lead the team to that championship in game 7. Reed was inspirational but Frazier was phenomenal.
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Walt Frazier lead the team to that championship in game 7. Reed was inspirational but Frazier was phenomenal.
The point is, he was there for his team in the biggest game of the year. It was career defining, irrespective of how many points he scored (and Reed was named Finals MVP, so he had *something* to do with them winning). Paul had that opportunity, even if he could only play 2 minutes, but sat it out. Just rubs me the wrong way.
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The point is, he was there for his team in the biggest game of the year. It was career defining, irrespective of how many points he scored (and Reed was named Finals MVP, so he had *something* to do with them winning). Paul had that opportunity, even if he could only play 2 minutes, but sat it out. Just rubs me the wrong way.
I agree with all that. Frazier was unreal in game 7 and doesn't get enough credit. They don't make it game 7 without Reed but they don't win game 7 without Frazier's 36 point and 19 assists.
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Well Paul is there this year an completely uninspiring.
So there's that.
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Your reigning MVP took 2 shots in the 4th quarter, iirc, 1 in the final 8 minutes.
They also completely forgot how to guard Curry without Durant on the court.
Paul had the worst playoff game of his career.
Capela continues to be a huge negative anytime he's on the court and Looney isn't. This is on MDA for stubbornly continuing to stick him out there to be abused on switches.
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I agree with all that. Frazier was unreal in game 7 and doesn't get enough credit. They don't make it game 7 without Reed but they don't win game 7 without Frazier's 36 point and 19 assists.
Reed holding Chamberlain to four points in the first half, while the Knicks ran up a huge lead helped too. But of course they don't win without Frazier.
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The interwebs are all abuzz this morning about Thompson stepping out of bounds on the Warriors' last possession that put them up by 5. Had he been called, the Rockets would have had the ball, down by three with about 6 seconds left. I didn't see it, but the pictures looked pretty blatant.
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The interwebs are all abuzz this morning about Thompson stepping out of bounds on the Warriors' last possession that put them up by 5. Had he been called, the Rockets would have had the ball, down by three with about 6 seconds left. I didn't see it, but the pictures looked pretty blatant.
It was.
In the frenzy TNT didn't catch it either.
The 2 minute report should mention it for whatever good that does.
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The interwebs are all abuzz this morning about Thompson stepping out of bounds on the Warriors' last possession that put them up by 5. Had he been called, the Rockets would have had the ball, down by three with about 6 seconds left. I didn't see it, but the pictures looked pretty blatant.
There's a great pic of the ref staring at the ball in Thompson's hand while his foot is on the ground.
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Here's an in depth look at Houston possessions in thre least 7 minutes:
https://twitter.com/Rockets_Insider/status/1126484470167736324?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Rockets_Insider/status/1126484470167736324?s=19)
Ultimately I agree it came down to defense and rebounds.
Should also note that when KD went out Curry stepped up for his team. Bastard.
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Here's an in depth look at Houston possessions in thre least 7 minutes:
https://twitter.com/Rockets_Insider/status/1126484470167736324?s=19 (https://twitter.com/Rockets_Insider/status/1126484470167736324?s=19)
Ultimately I agree it came down to defense and rebounds.
Should also note that when KD went out Curry stepped up for his team. Bastard.
Hard to beat a team that can lose the best player in the league and still probably be the best team in the league anyway
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This team plays so stupidly at the most important times.
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Poor Warriors, down to just 3 future Hall of Famers.
These Rockets will be the 90s Knicks: a very good, ugly team that ran into a historical juggernaut in their conference.
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I'm not sure who the right coach for these Rockets is, going forward, but I'd love to see someone who can run an offensive set from time to time.
I give the staff and the players much credit for the defense they played for most of this series. They lost to a better team, but they shouldn't have.
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I'm not sure who the right coach for these Rockets is
I'm sure it's not MDA.
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I'm sure it's not MDA.
Never really was if you ask me
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MDA's fault for having a team that doesn't play defense or rebound and plays nothing but isoball in the age of isoball. OK.
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MDA's fault for having a team that doesn't play defense or rebound and plays nothing but isoball in the age of isoball. OK.
You're somewhat partially kind of right.
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MDA's fault for having a team that doesn't play defense or rebound and plays nothing but isoball in the age of isoball. OK.
Defensive mistakes, poor rebounding are inevitable. And unaddressable. And the offense is the offense so what can you do? Ok.
If you want to point a finger at Morey go ahead. Meanwhile I'm comfortable being unimpressed by MDA playoff coaching.
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I just knew that Curry and Thompson were gonna be clutch and Harden was not. MDA is a facilitator, he doesn't coach, he decides who starts and then makes substitutions throughout the game. This team did good in spite of itself.
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I just knew that Curry and Thompson were gonna be clutch and Harden was not. MDA is a facilitator, he doesn't coach, he decides who starts and then makes substitutions throughout the game. This team did good in spite of itself.
Harden scored 35 points, 7 in the last 2.5 minutes. Should he be the only player to do anything? I don't get the bashing of Harden...if they lose, it's because he's not "clutch", even if he scores 30 points in the 4th...if they win, it's in spite of his 50 points. He's a hall of famer, and the best player the Rockets have had since Hakeem. For the past five seasons, the Rockets have been a championship contending team because of him, and would win championships in any year where this particular Warriors team (which I think is the greatest in the history of basketball) is not in the league. Yet people rake him over the coals. I just don't get it.
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The fact that Eric Gordon was their second best player, not Chris Paul, was a huge problem.
Paul only looked like CP3 for one stretch during the entire series.
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The fact that Eric Gordon was their second best player, not Chris Paul, was a huge problem.
Paul only looked like CP3 for one stretch during the entire series.
Paul is 34. That contract is an albatross.
Fertitta told Morey he wanted to get under the luxury tax if they could, which led to the departures of guys like Ariza and Luc - guys who enabled the lockdown D they played last year.
HH has it right. Morey built a team that had a legit shot at taking down, if not the best team of all time, then one of the top two. You can’t ask for much more.
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Harden scored 35 points, 7 in the last 2.5 minutes. Should he be the only player to do anything? I don't get the bashing of Harden...if they lose, it's because he's not "clutch", even if he scores 30 points in the 4th...if they win, it's in spite of his 50 points. He's a hall of famer, and the best player the Rockets have had since Hakeem. For the past five seasons, the Rockets have been a championship contending team because of him, and would win championships in any year where this particular Warriors team (which I think is the greatest in the history of basketball) is not in the league. Yet people rake him over the coals. I just don't get it.
People just don't like the way Harden plays, I don't get it either. Harden was, for the most part, great this whole series. You can't really get mad about a team, or player, losing to the 90s Bulls or the early 2000s Lakers or the Spurs at the top of their game, or these Warriors.
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People just don't like the way Harden plays, I don't get it either. Harden was, for the most part, great this whole series. You can't really get mad about a team, or player, losing to the 90s Bulls or the early 2000s Lakers or the Spurs at the top of their game, or these Warriors.
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What's driven me nuts the least 2 years is that these Warriors are not at the top of their game.
But yes, there's no shame in losing to them.
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What's driven me nuts the least 2 years is that these Warriors are not at the top of their game.
But yes, there's no shame in losing to them.
These Warriors, clicking on all cylinders, would sweep any team in the NBA and not play a close game
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Pretty good article:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-playoffs-2019-rockets-squander-golden-opportunity-in-crushing-game-6-loss-to-warriors (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-playoffs-2019-rockets-squander-golden-opportunity-in-crushing-game-6-loss-to-warriors)/
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The Warriors are the better team even without Durant. Thompson, Curry, and Green are HoFers. Probably Andre Iguodala too, who if he played for the Rockets, would be the second best player on the team. But that doesn't mean they're unbeatable. That game was lost in the last 3 minutes.
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Harden scored 35 points, 7 in the last 2.5 minutes. Should he be the only player to do anything? I don't get the bashing of Harden...if they lose, it's because he's not "clutch", even if he scores 30 points in the 4th...if they win, it's in spite of his 50 points. He's a hall of famer, and the best player the Rockets have had since Hakeem. For the past five seasons, the Rockets have been a championship contending team because of him, and would win championships in any year where this particular Warriors team (which I think is the greatest in the history of basketball) is not in the league. Yet people rake him over the coals. I just don't get it.
It's because you can't see his hustle face under the beard.
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Pretty good article:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-playoffs-2019-rockets-squander-golden-opportunity-in-crushing-game-6-loss-to-warriors (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-playoffs-2019-rockets-squander-golden-opportunity-in-crushing-game-6-loss-to-warriors)/
The Limey press weighs in (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/11/the-rockets-lost-more-than-a-playoff-series-their-window-for-a-title-has-closed).
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The fact that Eric Gordon was their second best player, not Chris Paul, was a huge problem.
Paul only looked like CP3 for one stretch during the entire series.
Paul wasn't even their third best player this series.
Harden played like a hero. He's one of the last reasons they lost.