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Title: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 14, 2019, 12:19:07 pm
"Take a look at these at bats, you might have been tipping your pitches to the Astros." (https://www.mlb.com/news/james-paxton-tipped-pitches-in-houston)
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: JimR on April 14, 2019, 12:37:33 pm
Always some excuse
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: MusicMan on April 14, 2019, 02:39:16 pm
Always some excuse

Maybe, but Beltran was the best at picking up on that stuff.


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Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 14, 2019, 04:55:11 pm
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“I did find out I was tipping my pitches when there were guys at second base, so they knew what was coming,” the left-hander said Sunday before the Yankees faced the White Sox at the Stadium. “They were fouling off some pretty good pitches, taking some pretty good pitches. There were stealing some signs. So that’s didn’t help.”
But then there's this:

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The Astros actually did their most damage without men in scoring position. Jose Altuve hit a pair of solo homers, Yuri Gurriel laced an RBI triple and Carlos Correa added an RBI double with a runner on first.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: das on April 14, 2019, 06:48:39 pm
But then there's this:

And this:

“Paxton was peppered for five runs and eight hits in four-plus innings by the Astros with an 8-6 victory that night. None of the hits that Paxton permitted came with a runner at second base”
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: astrojo on April 14, 2019, 10:12:41 pm
Right, our runners were never on 2nd when those rbi hits happened. But Beltran supposedly shows him pitches when they were occupying 2nd and claims that Astros would have offered at pitches in question unless they knew what was coming. That’s their “proof”. Also, Yankee yahoos and other Astro hating “baseball fans” will just blabber on and on about the Astros cheating and stealing signs like they did against Cleveland and Boston, without reading the truth that is reported in that article because they have selective reading skills. They’re guilty as charged in the court of public opinion.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Jacksonian on April 15, 2019, 10:11:19 am
Always some excuse

Well, he also admitted, "That being said, I also didn't throw the ball very well. I was over the middle of the plate too much even when there were guys not on second base, so I need to be better at that as well."
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 15, 2019, 10:19:58 am
Well, he also admitted, "That being said, I also didn't throw the ball very well. I was over the middle of the plate too much even when there were guys not on second base, so I need to be better at that as well."

That's the only thing he should have said.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Mr. Happy on April 16, 2019, 12:37:14 pm
That's the only thing he should have said.

Exactly. Sometimes you should just tip your cap to the hitters. as distasteful as that can be sometimes, STFU and get back to work.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Lefty on April 16, 2019, 06:45:11 pm
Well, whatever he changed it's working so far against the Yankees.  Sale, on the other hand, is getting taken to the woodshed again.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: WVastro on April 16, 2019, 09:59:18 pm
Well, whatever he changed it's working so far against the Yankees.  Sale, on the other hand, is getting taken to the woodshed again.

Must be the Astros’ fault, from management to the ballboys. No other explanation for Sale getting blown up. All a part of the plan. There’s no way the Yankees could have had a good night on their own.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: JimR on April 17, 2019, 08:23:05 am
Well, whatever he changed it's working so far against the Yankees.  Sale, on the other hand, is getting taken to the woodshed again.

He is just pitching better against a different team. If you really are tipping pitches, you do not tell the media. Same thing if you really are stealing signs or seeing pitches tipped.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Lefty on April 17, 2019, 09:17:00 am
He is just pitching better against a different team. If you really are tipping pitches, you do not tell the media. Same thing if you really are stealing signs or seeing pitches tipped.

My comment was mostly tongue in cheek.  I always assumed what he said had nothing to do with the Astros and was aimed at getting the NY media off his ass after a couple of bad starts.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: JimR on April 17, 2019, 10:30:05 am
My comment was mostly tongue in cheek.  I always assumed what he said had nothing to do with the Astros and was aimed at getting the NY media off his ass after a couple of bad starts.

No doubt.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Duman on April 17, 2019, 04:28:57 pm
Saw a video on line, that I can't find now of someone showing that he wasn't hiding his glove well with Correa at second and White batting.  Correa could see in the glove and looked right for fast ball and looked left for off speed.  It was interesting.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: JimR on April 17, 2019, 06:27:03 pm
Saw a video on line, that I can't find now of someone showing that he wasn't hiding his glove well with Correa at second and White batting.  Correa could see in the glove and looked right for fast ball and looked left for off speed.  It was interesting.

This is the kind of stuff I did at UT from the first base coach’s box. When I had the pitches, I would give them to Falk (closed fist fastball, open hand curve)),and he would give them to the hitters who wanted them (first name fastball, last name curve). Bob Snoddy, our first baseman, won the SWC batting title, and he gave me credit in an interview for giving him pitches all year. Falk was apoplectic.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: juliogotay on April 17, 2019, 06:32:00 pm
This is the kind of stuff I did at UT from the first base coach’s box. When I had the pitches, I would give them to Falk (closed fist fastball, open hand curve)),and he would give them to the hitters who wanted them (first name fastball, last name curve). Bob Snoddy, our first baseman, won the SWC batting title, and he gave me credit in an interview for giving him pitches all year. Falk was apoplectic.

Bibb Falk? Holy shit.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on April 17, 2019, 06:34:03 pm
This is the kind of stuff I did at UT from the first base coach’s box. When I had the pitches, I would give them to Falk (closed fist fastball, open hand curve)),and he would give them to the hitters who wanted them (first name fastball, last name curve). Bob Snoddy, our first baseman, won the SWC batting title, and he gave me credit in an interview for giving him pitches all year. Falk was apoplectic.

This is awesome.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: JimR on April 17, 2019, 08:05:42 pm
Bibb Falk? Holy shit.

He was my coach. You would know this if you had read The 27th Out.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Jacksonian on April 17, 2019, 09:15:34 pm
He was my coach. You would know this if you had read The 27th Out.

Most people aren’t familiar with ancient texts residing in the most obscure locations.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: austro on April 17, 2019, 09:32:53 pm
I'm waiting for the movie.

I hope they don't give it to JJ Abrams.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: chuck on April 17, 2019, 09:47:42 pm
He was my coach. You would know this if you had read The 27th Out.

People would value that text more if they knew how long it took to chisel.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: austro on April 17, 2019, 09:53:44 pm
People would value that text more if they knew how long it took to chisel.

I'm pretty sure one of the Dead Sea scrolls has a reference to it.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: JimR on April 17, 2019, 10:43:35 pm
Most people aren’t familiar with ancient texts residing in the most obscure locations.

It may not even exist. Merely an urban legend.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Mr. Happy on April 19, 2019, 03:29:34 pm
People would value that text more if they knew how long it took to chisel.

My Lord. Old man smack never gets old. I laughed out loud.
Title: Re: Beltran told Paxton
Post by: Lefty on April 19, 2019, 06:56:08 pm
People would value that text more if they knew how long it took to chisel.

Quality shit talking, right there.