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Title: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 06:42:37 pm
Three pitches, 1-0 Yankees.
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Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 06:46:39 pm
After 1/2 inning...1-0 Yankees.  Astros seem obsessed with falling behind early this series.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Lefty on April 10, 2019, 06:50:03 pm
McHugh certainly settled down after the HR (no idea how much the wind helped it), struck out the next 3 on 12 pitches.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 06:53:05 pm
Altuve hits one off the top of the wall in LF...bounces back, ruled a double...under review, replays shows it hit the railing...should be a home run....
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Lefty on April 10, 2019, 06:54:23 pm
Altuve hits one off the top of the wall in LF...bounces back, ruled a double...under review, replays shows it hit the railing...should be a home run....

Not sure why the review is taking so long.  Looked pretty clear to me.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 06:55:06 pm
still reviewing...Boone asking about the time limit for review....overturned!  Home run!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Lefty on April 10, 2019, 07:03:35 pm
Great job by Carlos and Yuli there with 2 outs.  Gardner?  Not so much.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 07:27:34 pm
GIDP with RISP. Dammit.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 07:38:38 pm
I think if you knock an infielder over, it should be a HR.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 07:40:04 pm
I think if you knock an infielder over, it should be a HR.

That ball took a nasty fucking hop. That’s how you lose teeth.

Correa with an RBI double to make it 3-1
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Lefty on April 10, 2019, 07:40:57 pm
I think if you knock an infielder over, it should be a HR.

Loved Dierker's quote:  "Why couldn't McCann ever get a break like that?"
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 07:42:47 pm
I love the pitch count for Paxton. 
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on April 10, 2019, 07:47:19 pm
OMG Dierker with the vicious shade, saying they couldn’t use the shift because Biggio couldn’t make the throw from short RF


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 07:48:40 pm
OMG Dierker with the vicious shade, saying they couldn’t use the shift because Biggio couldn’t make the throw from short RF

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I was just about to post this.  That was great.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on April 10, 2019, 07:49:18 pm
Oh Yuli.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 07:49:44 pm
Dang it,  Yuli.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on April 10, 2019, 07:54:22 pm
Oh Yuli.


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Not a great last few minutes for Yuli.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 07:54:40 pm
And right through the wicket. Yuli forgot how hot the hit corner can get.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 08:00:56 pm
Attaboy Collin.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on April 10, 2019, 08:00:59 pm
This inning brought to you by “unearned runs are so arbitrary”


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 08:18:49 pm
Just keep throwing those sliders and striking these chumps out
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 08:19:40 pm
Altuve x 2
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: austro on April 10, 2019, 08:19:55 pm
I think his knee is better.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2019, 08:20:25 pm
Jose is seeing the ball pretty good.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 08:20:36 pm
Al2ve!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 08:26:41 pm
Correa don’t want altuve to have all the fun!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 08:26:57 pm
Healthy Jose, healthy Carlos.  Wonderful.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 08:27:18 pm
Healthy Jose, healthy Carlos.  Wonderful.

This!!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2019, 08:31:32 pm
I like it when the Astros score runs!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 08:36:31 pm
Jake with the 0-2 rbi knock!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 08:38:12 pm
This pitching change brought to you by THERE ARE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE:

https://twitter.com/DidBregmanHomer/status/1115813244462075906?s=19 (https://twitter.com/DidBregmanHomer/status/1115813244462075906?s=19)
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 08:45:49 pm
This pitching change brought to you by THE ARE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE:

https://twitter.com/DidBregmanHomer/status/1115813244462075906?s=19 (https://twitter.com/DidBregmanHomer/status/1115813244462075906?s=19)

That's the greatest (and grossest) thing I've seen in a while.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 08:48:11 pm
6 strong innings from Collin.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:04:28 pm
Devo’s beard is finally starting to fill in.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 09:12:14 pm
Tyler White just struck out looking playing tee-ball.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 10, 2019, 09:21:57 pm
Tyler White just struck out looking playing tee-ball.
When they finally go back to 13 pitchers I’m hoping White is the one who is traded. Kemp is way more consistent and a better all around player.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 09:24:28 pm
James continues to unimpress.

Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 09:25:43 pm
Was hoping we were cruising to an easy non save situation win.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 09:26:33 pm
3 straight Yankees reach, no out.  Get him out of there.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:30:37 pm
Walk, home run, single, walk

Yankees now with the tying run at the plate, nobody out. I’m not liking this development.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 09:31:02 pm
Get him the fuck out of here.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:31:16 pm
Hinch is pretty pissed as he goes out to yank James.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MRaup on April 10, 2019, 09:31:53 pm
Putrid appearance.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 09:32:00 pm
I hope Rondon can clean up this mess James left.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:32:05 pm
Rondon now in to try to clean up James’s mess.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: doyce7 on April 10, 2019, 09:32:09 pm
Hinch is pretty pissed as he goes out to yank James.
You don't usually see AJ that disgusted when walking out to the mound.

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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 09:32:19 pm
Had him 0-2.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: DVauthrin on April 10, 2019, 09:33:16 pm
Hinch is pretty pissed as he goes out to yank James.

Hinch should be pissed.  James needs to go down to AAA until he figures out how to command the strike zone. 
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: austro on April 10, 2019, 09:35:10 pm
Somehow that shitshow from James was only -8 points on my fantasy team. And it didn't cost me any innings pitched!

ETA: I got forgot about his inherited runners, who were also happy to score.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: doyce7 on April 10, 2019, 09:36:10 pm
When strike 3 is actually ball 3

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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: doyce7 on April 10, 2019, 09:37:13 pm
Well shit

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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:37:30 pm
Tying run now in scoring position, still nobody out.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 09:37:34 pm
Fucking hell. 
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:38:14 pm
Tying run at 3B, one out
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 09:38:41 pm
An out!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 09:39:13 pm
James you piece of crap. AAA awaits you.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: DVauthrin on April 10, 2019, 09:40:33 pm
Pressly coming on to face Gary Sanchez.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:40:37 pm
Rondon out, and Pressly in. Tying run still at 3B, two out...
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: austro on April 10, 2019, 09:41:59 pm
And fucking Sanchez up.
Rondon out, and Pressly in. Tying run still at 3B, two out...

And fucking Sanchez up.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:44:57 pm

What a fucking shit show by the pen.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: DVauthrin on April 10, 2019, 09:45:27 pm
Pressly!

Hope James enjoys his impending trip to Round Rock.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 09:45:39 pm
Thank you,  Pressly
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:45:45 pm
Pressly stops the bleeding.

7-6 Astros
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Lefty on April 10, 2019, 09:45:46 pm
There you go, Pressly! 
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:48:06 pm
Now gotta face the top of the order again, including Judge.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: doyce7 on April 10, 2019, 09:51:12 pm
Somebody call All State!

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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:51:14 pm
Springer with an RBI single. Woohoo.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 09:51:31 pm
Jake and George!  Nice 1-2 punch.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 09:53:06 pm
Handsome Jake w his 3rd hit and George finally joins the hit parade
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 09:54:40 pm
Handsome Jake w his 3rd hit and George finally joins the hit parade

Every Astro has a hit tonight.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 10:01:05 pm
Carlos is getting good at that.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: doyce7 on April 10, 2019, 10:01:09 pm
Correa - king of the 10 foot hit

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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 10:01:10 pm
Correa with a 9-ft single to load the bases
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 10:01:14 pm
That late action fooled hpu.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 10:01:49 pm
Way to wait for your pitch Yuli. Fuck
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 10:01:53 pm
Fuck
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 10:02:10 pm
Correa - king of the 10 foot hit

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Last year was the Bregman popup hit.   They're mixing it up.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 10:02:18 pm
Gidp rears it’s fugly head
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 10:07:39 pm
Pressly is lucky Judge only hit a single there. That was a serious hanging 0-2 slider

Tying run at the plate...
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 10:11:07 pm
How sweep it is!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2019, 10:11:09 pm
Sweep!!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: hostros7 on April 10, 2019, 10:11:18 pm
Sweep!


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2019, 10:11:21 pm
SWEEP!
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Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2019, 10:12:10 pm
Now let’s take this show on the road!
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: DVauthrin on April 10, 2019, 10:13:14 pm
Great homestand and a great job tonight by Pressly.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Lefty on April 10, 2019, 10:13:18 pm
1st multi-team homestand sweep since the last 6 games of '04

1st sweep of the Yankees
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2019, 10:13:25 pm
Handshakes/ high 5s

Let's be sure to pack this offense for the road trip.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: doyce7 on April 10, 2019, 10:15:58 pm
And exhale. Game should have never been that close. Thank got for Pressly

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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 10, 2019, 10:23:07 pm
And exhale. Game should have never been that close. Thank got for Pressly

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Pressly was nails!


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: chuck on April 10, 2019, 11:08:35 pm
I don't carry around the deep reserves of Yankee hate that some of you guys not unreasonably do, but I'm on board hoping they lose 100 games this year and I'll tell you why. I would like to think I have an appropriate level of respect for the game. Because of that, it offends me deeply that the Yankees seem to believe that they can assemble a competitive team by putting together a lineup of giant goons who can crush home runs and a bullpen the back of which features a bunch of guys who throw 100 miles per hour. I don't think defense registers even as an afterthought to these idiots. This team's defensive ineptitude offends me more than it brings me joy at the resulting failures. It's not surprising, I don't suppose. They sent Derek Jeter out to play shortstop for 20 years. For any number of those years the best shortstop in baseball played third base right next to him, so they obviously have never cared all that much about defense. But this is pretty bad.

It's not the worst defensive team I've ever seen, but they obviously don't care at all, and that pisses me off.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 11, 2019, 06:37:58 am
Chuck,  that was a fantastic rant.

FTY
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: juliogotay on April 11, 2019, 09:18:35 am
McHugh this season:  17IP, 10H/5ER, 22K:5BB.  Apparently the new slider.

https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/collin-mchugh-piles-up-strikeouts-vs-yankees
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: jbm on April 11, 2019, 09:50:33 am
McHugh this season:  17IP, 10H/5ER, 22K:5BB.  Apparently the new slider.

https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/collin-mchugh-piles-up-strikeouts-vs-yankees
I had flashbacks to Sergio Romo in one of Judge's ABs.  Slider, slider, slider slider, in, out, freeze him over the middle
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: JimR on April 11, 2019, 09:54:11 am
James you piece of crap. AAA awaits you.

This is a bit harsh, but I agree about the destination.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: juliogotay on April 11, 2019, 10:28:41 am
This is a bit harsh, but I agree about the destination.

He needs to combobulate.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 11, 2019, 12:38:31 pm
This is a bit harsh, but I agree about the destination.

Agreed. I should not have attacked the man’s character for simply being unable to do his job. I was just pissed at the situation. But he does need to be sent down to work on said job. Bring the lefty Perez to replace him. Too bad there isn’t room for Tanielu, who hit that walk off slam for Express last night.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on April 11, 2019, 12:57:45 pm
Well, there’s a pitcher headed to RR, but it’s Framber. No corresponding move announced yet.


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Title: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 11, 2019, 01:08:11 pm
Agreed. I should not have attacked the man’s character for simply being unable to do his job. I was just pissed at the situation. But he does need to be sent down to work on said job. Bring the lefty Perez to replace him. Too bad there isn’t room for Tanielu, who hit that walk off slam for Express last night.
Perez’s stat line at RR is not good in his one appearance so far. Guduan’s is a little better. Only one or two appearances so far though.


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Title: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 11, 2019, 01:08:38 pm
Well, there’s a pitcher headed to RR, but it’s Framber. No corresponding move announced yet.


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I’m guessing it will be Guduan. Lefty for a lefty with Perez staying down to get stretched out. Luhnow has been quoted as saying he thinks of Perez as a starter. We’ll see though.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 11, 2019, 01:23:06 pm
Perez’s stat line at RR is not good in his one appearance so far. Guduan’s is a little better. Only one or two appearances so far though.


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Yes, definitely. I had forgot about Guduan.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: astrojo on April 11, 2019, 01:30:35 pm
I’m guessing it will be Guduan. Lefty for a lefty with Perez staying down to get stretched out. Luhnow has been quoted as saying he thinks of Perez as a starter. We’ll see though.


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May not be a pitcher since peacock will be in the pen for the next few series.  Packing extra offense for the road trip wouldn’t be a bad idea, especially with Bregman’s Hammy a question mark.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 11, 2019, 01:43:18 pm
May not be a pitcher since peacock will be in the pen for the next few series.  Packing extra offense for the road trip wouldn’t be a bad idea, especially with Bregman’s Hammy a question mark.
You could be right but it almost has to be a pitcher since with Framber gone they are down to 11 if I’m counting right. Wasn’t AJ just quoted about a week or so ago as saying he’ll be glad when we can get back to 13 pitchers?? I don’t see any way they don’t add a pitcher back to the staff with Valdez gone, especially with the Mariners hitting like they have.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 11, 2019, 01:52:29 pm
You could be right but it almost has to be a pitcher since with Framber gone they are down to 11 if I’m counting right. Wasn’t AJ just quoted about a week or so ago as saying he’ll be glad when we can get back to 13 pitchers?? I don’t see any way they don’t add a pitcher back to the staff with Valdez gone, especially with the Mariners hitting like they have.


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I will follow up my thought above with this one. If they are really going to go back to 13 pitchers, and I think they will, then that pretty much means either Tony Kemp or Tyler White has to go. I find it interesting that Valdez is optioned back to AAA and no immediate move has been announced from RR on who’s coming up. It could be they haven’t decided yet, or it could be it just hasn’t been announced. But it could also mean that a potential move for an innings eating relief pitcher could be in the works that would involve either Kemp or White being traded to make room for the 13th pitcher in the coming two or three weeks.

Going to be interesting for sure....


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: jbm on April 11, 2019, 02:18:32 pm
My gut tells me that Kemp is not going anywhere.  I also don't see them going to 13 until some starters start to struggle or games pile up.
Title: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 11, 2019, 02:30:44 pm
My gut tells me that Kemp is not going anywhere.  I also don't see them going to 13 until some starters start to struggle or games pile up.
I certainly hope Kemp doesn’t go anywhere either. He’s a scrappy ball player who can handle the bat. He’s too valuable to part with in my opinion. I personally could do without Tyler White on the roster effective today. Would rather have that 13th pitcher or Alvarez called up. From the sounds of things, 13 pitchers is going to happen and probably some time in May if not sooner. The clock is ticking on that and what ever move they will have to make.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: juliogotay on April 11, 2019, 03:10:41 pm
My gut tells me that Kemp is not going anywhere.  I also don't see them going to 13 until some starters start to struggle or games pile up.

Your gut tells me Kemp isn't going anywhere, either. But what did you have for lunch...I've got a little turbulence down there.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: BudGirl on April 11, 2019, 03:13:10 pm
Your gut tells me Kemp isn't going anywhere, either. But what did you have for lunch...I've got a little turbulence down there.

this makes me think I should have some frito pie for dinner tonight.
Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: MusicMan on April 11, 2019, 04:26:10 pm
Guduan called up.


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Title: Re: Yankees at Astros, April 10, 2019
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 11, 2019, 04:37:45 pm
White needs to start driving the ball.

Or rather needed to start a week ago.

But I'm guessing he'll need to struggle longer before they'd give up on him and replace him with a prototypical 80s leadoff hitter.  Although I do like that particular hitter.