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Title: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on November 27, 2018, 07:37:50 pm
Highly recommend the new Coen brothers anthology on Netflix.
 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on November 28, 2018, 10:41:22 am
Highly recommend the new Coen brothers anthology on Netflix.

The Coens have done some dark shit before, but when I saw the chicken in the back of the trailer, I gasped.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on November 28, 2018, 11:26:19 am
Watched it Monday night, and it is a rollercoaster ride of emotions.

I really enjoyed it, and ended up staying up way later than I intended because I had to see it all the way through.

Can't recommend it enough. At it's funniest, it's Oh Brother Where Art Thou. At it's most dramatic, it's True Grit. So good!
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Lefty on November 29, 2018, 10:18:38 pm
This is a fantastic movie.  MRaup's review is pretty spot-on.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on November 30, 2018, 09:52:56 am
Pan shot!
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on November 30, 2018, 10:37:20 am
"Didn't hit nothing important."
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: subnuclear on November 30, 2018, 11:18:50 am
"Didn't hit nothing important."

Up there with "There Will Be Blood" on list of best movies about old-timey mining.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on November 30, 2018, 11:40:48 am
Pan shot!

Stephen Root is a national treasure.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: HudsonHawk on November 30, 2018, 01:42:29 pm
Up there with "There Will Be Blood" on list of best movies about old-timey mining.

Apropos to nothing, but There Wil Be Blood may be the single worst film ever made.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on November 30, 2018, 01:45:11 pm
Apropos to nothing, but There Wil Be Blood may be the single worst film ever made.

Lewis is a fine actor, but that was overacting at its finest...and it got him an Oscar.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: subnuclear on November 30, 2018, 02:07:06 pm
Apropos to nothing, but There Wil Be Blood may be the single worst film ever made.

I liked the parts about mining and oil business and bunch of other stuff.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on November 30, 2018, 02:09:14 pm
Apropos to nothing, but There Wil Be Blood may be the single worst film ever made.

You apparently have never seen The Room.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on November 30, 2018, 02:37:47 pm
Apropos to nothing, but There Wil Be Blood may be the single worst film ever made.
I liked it and Boogie Nights, I didn't really mind Inherent Vice or Magnolia, I haven't seen Phantom Thread. I fucking hated The Master. I bet you've never seen The Master.   #PaulThomasAndersonFilms
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on November 30, 2018, 02:40:13 pm
You apparently have never seen The Room.
I really want to see it but I'm afraid I'll hate myself afterward.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: subnuclear on November 30, 2018, 02:49:20 pm
I liked it and Boogie Nights, I didn't really mind Inherent Vice or Magnolia, I haven't seen Phantom Thread. I fucking hated The Master. I bet you've never seen The Master.   #PaulThomasAndersonFilms

Don't forget Hard Eight and Punch Drunk Love.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on November 30, 2018, 03:00:30 pm
Don't forget Hard Eight and Punch Drunk Love.
I didn't see them. Are they any good?
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on November 30, 2018, 03:19:18 pm
Don't forget Hard Eight and Punch Drunk Love.

Holy Shit! I had forgotten Punch Drunk Love was a thing!

Thanks/Fuck You!
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: subnuclear on November 30, 2018, 03:53:00 pm
I didn't see them. Are they any good?

Phillip Baker Hall is great in Hard Eight and it has some cool gambling stuff in it, but it's kind of half a movie. Punch Drunk Love is kind of offbeat like Magnolia, so if you are in to that it's pretty good.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Lefty on November 30, 2018, 03:56:58 pm
Stephen Root is a national treasure.

This is so true, he's amazing in everything he's in, no matter how small a part.


I fucking hated The Master. I bet you've never seen The Master.   #PaulThomasAndersonFilms

I'm trying to think of a more overrated movie and I'm coming up short.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on November 30, 2018, 04:46:47 pm
This is so true, he's amazing in everything he's in, no matter how small a part.


Just Office Space and Oh Brother alone clinched it, the rest is just gravy.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on November 30, 2018, 05:04:00 pm
Stephen Root is a national treasure.

And a macho business donkey wrestler (https://youtu.be/MrlvVhL35Ws), with a super karate monkey death car (https://youtu.be/YpUJbUTljfU).
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on December 05, 2018, 12:17:19 pm
I've actually watched this again (and re-viewed a few of the chapters more than once), and there is so much great nuance and detail to be found as you re-view it. Highly recommend a second viewing if you enjoyed it the first time.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on December 08, 2018, 09:11:51 am
I've actually watched this again (and re-viewed a few of the chapters more than once), and there is so much great nuance and detail to be found as you re-view it. Highly recommend a second viewing if you enjoyed it the first time.

In the back scene Stephen Root's character's description of how his second bank robber is doing  in prison is pure genius that I didn't recognize until after I watched it again.

And the way his banter ends when the gun is pulled was so perfect he should win an award.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on December 17, 2018, 05:36:52 am
Apropos to nothing, but There Wil Be Blood may be the single worst film ever made.

You're insane. The score alone is better than almost any movie I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: HudsonHawk on December 17, 2018, 08:36:05 am
You're insane. The score alone is better than almost any movie I've ever seen.

I suppose you have to be awake to appreciate the score, and that's just not possible with that snoozer. 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: chuck on December 17, 2018, 09:39:15 am
I pay no attention to movies and had never heard of There Will Be Blood. So I look it up. In addition to having been nominated for 74 Academy Awards, it won some, and the general description of the film I looked at contained something along the lines of "widely considered to be one of the greatest films of all time..."
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: jbm on December 17, 2018, 09:51:26 am
HH's characterization makes me laugh, as the movie was highly overrated.  If DDL wasn't in it, it would reside in an even deeper obscurity.  It was the same year as No Country for Old Man and some people seriously debated which was better.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on December 17, 2018, 10:20:11 am
HH's characterization makes me laugh, as the movie was highly overrated.  If DDL wasn't in it, it would reside in an even deeper obscurity.  It was the same year as No Country for Old Man and some people seriously debated which was better.

I was in the TWBB camp hands down. I'm not an uncritical PTA person--I found Magnolia exhausting, The Master a dud, and Inherent Vice a noble attempt at the virtually impossible (converting a Pynchon title to film), didn't see Punchdrunk Love (because Sandler) or finish Hard Eight, but his pairings with DDL are both terrific. I can certainly understand why he wouldn't be somebody's bag--de gustibus non est disputandum and all--but even speaking hyperbolically, putting There Will Be Blood in the same sentence as "worst film of all time" is objectively ludicrous.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: HudsonHawk on December 17, 2018, 10:27:33 am
I was in the TWBB camp hands down. I'm not an uncritical PTA person--I found Magnolia exhausting, The Master a dud, and Inherent Vice a noble attempt at the virtually impossible (converting a Pynchon title to film), didn't see Punchdrunk Love (because Sandler) or finish Hard Eight, but his pairings with DDL are both terrific. I can certainly understand why he wouldn't be somebody's bag--de gustibus non est disputandum and all--but even speaking hyperbolically, putting There Will Be Blood in the same sentence as "worst film of all time" is objectively ludicrous.

Being able to stay awake through the entire film I find objectively ludicrous.  But if you like it, knock yourself out.  It was one of the five worst films I've ever seen in my life.  And that even counts all the ones with Brad Pitt in them. 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: moriartp on December 17, 2018, 10:27:52 am
I like that DDL and the director chose not to hold back with it. They took their weird shit to 11. The problem is the movie seems to take itself so seriously that if you don't buy in 100%, it plays as almost comically bad.

I think of it as a "fun" movie. I'm pretty sure that's not what they were going for, but it's enjoyable if you approach it that way.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: JimR on December 17, 2018, 11:28:15 am
Enjoyed Buster Scruggs thanks to Mark’s tip. The wagon strain story made me want to cry.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: subnuclear on December 17, 2018, 04:35:47 pm
I like that DDL and the director chose not to hold back with it. They took their weird shit to 11. The problem is the movie seems to take itself so seriously that if you don't buy in 100%, it plays as almost comically bad.

I think of it as a "fun" movie. I'm pretty sure that's not what they were going for, but it's enjoyable if you approach it that way.

The source material is a bit dry, so I think he let the actors go nuts. His movies are great if you like that sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on December 18, 2018, 09:05:26 am
The source material is a bit dry, so I think he let the actors go nuts. His movies are great if you like that sort of thing.

I really checked out while watching TMBB, so I went back and read the plot synopsis on Wikipedia.  A bit dry...?
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Post by: Lefty on December 18, 2018, 03:26:17 pm
The source material is a bit dry, so I think he let the actors go nuts. His movies are great if you like that sort of thing.

Watching it, I wanted to beat Paul Dano to death for about 90 minutes, so that payoff at the end was gratifying, at least.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on December 19, 2018, 08:10:30 pm
Enjoyed Buster Scruggs thanks to Mark’s tip. The wagon strain story made me want to cry.

That one still gets to me.

And I'm glad they didn't force us to see the actor get tossed into the river.
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Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on December 19, 2018, 10:35:03 pm
That one still gets to me.

And I'm glad they didn't force us to see the actor get tossed into the river.

Who was "Dudders" from Harry Potter, BTW.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: HudsonHawk on December 20, 2018, 11:08:17 am
That one still gets to me.

And I'm glad they didn't force us to see the actor get tossed into the river.

Which would not have had near the impact of leaving it to our imaginations.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on December 20, 2018, 11:57:38 am
Which would not have had near the impact of leaving it to our imaginations.

You know what they call a man with no arms and no legs in a river, right?


Bob.
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Post by: MusicMan on December 20, 2018, 02:48:08 pm
You know what they call a man with no arms and no legs in a river, right?


Bob.

Yes, but if he’s up against a wall, you call him Art.


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Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on December 20, 2018, 03:57:39 pm
Yes, but if he’s up against a wall, you call him Art.

And if he has a shovel sticking out of his head, you call him Doug.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Craig on December 20, 2018, 09:01:00 pm
You know what they call a man with no arms and no legs in a river, right?


Bob.

You could tow him behind a boat and name him Skip.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on December 20, 2018, 09:03:55 pm
You could tow him behind a boat and name him Skip.

You could over-stimulate him with caffeine, throw him in a pile of dead leaves, and call him Russel. 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MusicMan on December 20, 2018, 09:46:31 pm
You could over-stimulate him with caffeine, throw him in a pile of dead leaves, and call him Russel.

You could put him on the door step and call him Matt.


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Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on December 20, 2018, 09:58:31 pm
You could put him on the door step and call him Matt.

You could remove the shovel from his head and call him Douglas. 
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Limey on December 28, 2018, 09:35:03 am
I've actually watched this again (and re-viewed a few of the chapters more than once), and there is so much great nuance and detail to be found as you re-view it. Highly recommend a second viewing if you enjoyed it the first time.

Finally got around to watching it, and it was enjoyable.  Lots if interesting explorations, the most overt being the environmental message of "All Gold Canyon" and the coach ride to the after life in "The Mortal Remains".  I was a little disappointed that we didn't see Liam Neeson get his comeuppance in "Meal Ticket"; my expectation was to see him - broke and starving after the chicken turned out to be a dud - eating the chicken to stay alive (but that's just my logical mind wanting the circle to be closed).

As with Coen Bros movies there's so much great dialog.  I know I will change my mind but, right now, it's Franco's outlaw turning to his fellow gallows occupant and asking "First time?"  It's funny, but it's also a suggestion that he has been here more than twice and was expecting fate to intervene on his behalf once again.  That intimation being reinforced to the audience by his connection with the girl in the crowd...
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: MRaup on December 29, 2018, 03:13:58 pm
Finally got around to watching it, and it was enjoyable.  Lots if interesting explorations, the most overt being the environmental message of "All Gold Canyon" and the coach ride to the after life in "The Mortal Remains".  I was a little disappointed that we didn't see Liam Neeson get his comeuppance in "Meal Ticket"; my expectation was to see him - broke and starving after the chicken turned out to be a dud - eating the chicken to stay alive (but that's just my logical mind wanting the circle to be closed).

As with Coen Bros movies there's so much great dialog.  I know I will change my mind but, right now, it's Franco's outlaw turning to his fellow gallows occupant and asking "First time?"  It's funny, but it's also a suggestion that he has been here more than twice and was expecting fate to intervene on his behalf once again.  That intimation being reinforced to the audience by his connection with the girl in the crowd...

It's really hard to pinpoint a favorite for me. The dinner table conversation was amazing, and Stephen Root's entire character/dialogue was way up there as well.
Title: Re: The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on December 29, 2018, 08:11:45 pm
The trapper in the stagecoach was played by the dude who played the spitballer in Major League.

The hand that Buster refused to play, aces and and 8's, was the Dead Man's Hand.   Supposedly the hand Bill Hickok held when he was shot.  The lesson being you can't avoid the reaper forever.  "You seen 'em, you play 'em."