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Title: Frito Pie
Post by: toddthebod on October 02, 2018, 07:01:56 pm
So the Jewish holiday of succot ended tonight.  And my wife and I often invite over a bunch of people over to our house after synagogue one of the days for food and drinks.

I served two gigantic platters of frito pie to all of those Yankees and Mets fans.  They didn't even know that the very food they ate was supporting the Astros.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 02, 2018, 07:41:30 pm
Good move.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: JimR on October 02, 2018, 09:00:58 pm
So the Jewish holiday of succot ended tonight.  And my wife and I often invite over a bunch of people over to our house after synagogue one of the days for food and drinks.

I served two gigantic platters of frito pie to all of those Yankees and Mets fans.  They didn't even know that the very food they ate was supporting the Astros.

So great!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 02, 2018, 09:01:07 pm
Strong.

I did that at a Cub Scout campout last year during the WS.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 10:09:09 pm
So the Jewish holiday of succot ended tonight.  And my wife and I often invite over a bunch of people over to our house after synagogue one of the days for food and drinks.

I served two gigantic platters of frito pie to all of those Yankees and Mets fans.  They didn't even know that the very food they ate was supporting the Astros.

A true mitzvah is when the recipient doesn't even know it. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 10:09:31 pm
So the Jewish holiday of succot ended tonight.  And my wife and I often invite over a bunch of people over to our house after synagogue one of the days for food and drinks.

I served two gigantic platters of frito pie to all of those Yankees and Mets fans.  They didn't even know that the very food they ate was supporting the Astros.

A true mitzvah is an act so kind the recipient doesn't even know it. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 02, 2018, 10:14:28 pm
A true mitzvah is an act so kind the recipient doesn't even know it.

I don't think Frito Pie and kindness have anything to do with each other.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 02, 2018, 10:16:17 pm
But I don't posit myself a Talmudic scholar or anything.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 10:28:24 pm
But I don't posit myself a Talmudic scholar or anything.

I think redemption through sacrifice cuts across a lot of religious ethics.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 02, 2018, 10:39:49 pm
But then again the bulk of my understanding of religion is Les Mis.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Jacksonian on October 02, 2018, 10:43:55 pm
But then again the bulk of my understanding of religion is Les Mis.

I first read that as Les Miles. I need help.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 02, 2018, 10:48:35 pm
I first read that as Les Miles. I need help.

Ha!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: MusicMan on October 03, 2018, 08:19:42 am
I first read that as Les Miles. I need help.

I think Les Miles led a lot of Louisianans to question their faith.


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Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 03, 2018, 09:32:01 am
I first read that as Les Miles. I need help.

Is eating grass a sacrament now?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: BudGirl on October 03, 2018, 10:37:30 am
Bench and I are meeting for Frito pie today at noon at Avalon Diner or Westheimer.  All are welcome to join us.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 10:42:39 am
Bench and I are meeting for Frito pie today at noon at Avalon Diner or Westheimer.  All are welcome to join us.

Do they make vegetarian frito pie?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 03, 2018, 10:53:57 am
Do they make vegetarian frito pie?

Benjy's makes a fantastic vegan frito pie.

But there are plenty of vegetarian options too.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 11:30:40 am
Benjy's makes a fantastic vegan frito pie.

But there are plenty of vegetarian options too.

What if I show up and don't eat frito pie?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 03, 2018, 11:33:41 am
What if I show up and don't eat frito pie?

I think simply being near the consumption of frito pie counts for something. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 11:35:55 am
I think simply being near the consumption of frito pie counts for something.

Gotcha.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: JimR on October 03, 2018, 12:26:19 pm
Do they make vegetarian frito pie?

Wimp
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 03, 2018, 01:25:29 pm
I used to make a pretty good vegetarian chili. It was never as good as my meat chili, but it was pretty good. Amy's and Chili Man both make decent canned veggie chili, even better than some of the shitty canned chilis that are supposed to have meat in them.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 03, 2018, 01:40:29 pm
wait you can serve chili in texas without meat? that just is wrong
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 01:41:22 pm
Wimp

Vegetarian is hardly the easy choice.  :)
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 01:42:17 pm
wait you can serve chili in texas without meat? that just is wrong

You can make vegetarian and/or vegan "chili", but it's not chili.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 01:44:23 pm
I used to make a pretty good vegetarian chili. It was never as good as my meat chili, but it was pretty good. Amy's and Chili Man both make decent canned veggie chili, even better than some of the shitty canned chilis that are supposed to have meat in them.

Bob's Red Mill's TVP has a "chili" recipe on the packet that is fantastic.  I have made a couple of adaptations to it, but the standard recipe makes a very tasty dish.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2018, 01:46:25 pm
T'was good to catch up with Budgirl and Bench!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: BudGirl on October 03, 2018, 01:48:21 pm
It was nice to catch up with you two, too!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 03, 2018, 01:52:53 pm
Bob's Red Mill's TVP has a "chili" recipe on the packet that is fantastic.  I have made a couple of adaptations to it, but the standard recipe makes a very tasty dish.
Yeah. It has to have the TVP or it's gonna suck.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 03, 2018, 02:06:08 pm
T'was good to catch up with Budgirl and Bench!

Thanks for joining!

It was nice to catch up with you two, too!

Thanks for the suggestion! That was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 03, 2018, 07:19:43 pm
FWIW

Fuddruckers unleashes taste of Texas with new Frito Pie Burger
http://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/10-02-18-ken-hoffman-drive-thru-gourmet-fuddruckers-frito-pie-burger-/?utm_source=sf_twitter
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 03, 2018, 08:02:12 pm
Venison chili is getting prepped and will be ready for Friday.

I prefer fried corn tortilla chips or cornbread to Fritos.  Is this acceptable?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 03, 2018, 08:09:52 pm
Venison chili is getting prepped and will be ready for Friday.

I prefer fried corn tortilla chips or cornbread to Fritos.  Is this acceptable?
I hate Fritos, I will only eat them with Frito pie. Unacceptable for a purist. The difference between chili pie and Frito pie.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2018, 08:31:51 pm
Do they make vegetarian frito pie?

That's like asking if they make non-alcoholic vodka. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2018, 08:33:46 pm
wait you can serve chili in texas without meat? that just is wrong

No, you cannot.  Anywhere.  Chili, by definition, has beef in it.  Without beef, it's not chili.  Period.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 03, 2018, 08:38:56 pm
No, you cannot.  Anywhere.  Chili, by definition, has beef in it.  Without beef, it's not chili.  Period.
That's why they call it Vegetarian Chili. It's not chili.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2018, 08:42:28 pm
That's why they call it Vegetarian Chili. It's not chili.

But it's like saying "I made a key lime pie, but instead of key limes, I used pumpkin".  Call it what it is "vegetable stew", not what it isn't.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 03, 2018, 08:52:06 pm
But it's like saying "I made a key lime pie, but instead of key limes, I used pumpkin".  Call it what it is "vegetable stew", not what it isn't.
Stew has meat.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 03, 2018, 09:05:23 pm
Do they make vegetarian frito pie?


“I'd Be a Vegetarian if Bacon Grew on Trees” - Homer  (I can never remember if it was the Iliad or the Odyssey?)
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 03, 2018, 09:16:52 pm

“I'd Be a Vegetarian if Bacon Grew on Trees” - Homer  (I can never remember if it was the Iliad or the Odyssey?)

Iliad.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: WVastro on October 03, 2018, 09:33:59 pm
No, you cannot.  Anywhere.  Chili, by definition, has beef in it.  Without beef, it's not chili.  Period.

Chili con carne has meat by definition. Chili is all about the capsicum. I know you know this so this isn’t a disagreement. Also, I don’t eat veggie chili unless it’s the zombie apocolypse and animals are contagious.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2018, 09:44:25 pm
Chili con carne has meat by definition. Chili is all about the capsicum. I know you know this so this isn’t a disagreement. Also, I don’t eat veggie chili unless it’s the zombie apocolypse and animals are contagious.

"Chili", the dish, is short for "chili con carne", which by definition is "con carne".  I'm sure vegetables and chiles are a fine meal, but it's not "chili".  "Chili" has a specific definition and ingredient list, first and foremost of which is beef.  I can say "I'm making a bacon cheeseburger, but instead of a bun, I use a tortilla, and I substitute grilled chicken for the beef patty...and I add grilled onions and peppers", but it's still a taco.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 03, 2018, 10:10:57 pm
Chili is all about the capsicum. I know you know this so this isn’t a disagreement.

BWWAAAAA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: WVastro on October 03, 2018, 10:28:40 pm
BWWAAAAA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Well shit... did I start something?

I love chili and when I think of chili it has meat in it. It’s the only way I make it. I also am not from Texas so when I see a veggie chili cook off here in Hicksville WV (as you’d like to imagine it) I know what genre of food they are trying to create. I know the taste that they’re going for and when done well it ‘ain’t a stew. It’s something with a shit ton of chili’s in it. And beans. It’s spicy. And savory. And it’s not bad to eat when the zombies are out and about.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2018, 10:30:58 pm
Well shit... did I start something?

I love chili and when I think of chili it has meat in it. It’s the only way I make it. I also am not from Texas so when I see a veggie chili cook off here in Hicksville WV (as you’d like to imagine it) I know what genre of food they are trying to create. I know the taste that they’re going for and when done well it ‘ain’t a stew. It’s something with a shit ton of chili’s in it. And beans. It’s spicy. And savory. And it’s not bad to eat when the zombies are out and about.

You didn't start the fire.  It was always burnin, since the world's been turnin'.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 03, 2018, 10:39:08 pm
And beans.

Keep going, dude, you're doing great!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: WVastro on October 03, 2018, 10:51:17 pm
Keep going, dude, you're doing great!

Nope. I’m out!

Talk to you all Friday. Enjoy your Thursday frito pie everyone!

 /stupidfaceemoji
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2018, 10:55:24 pm
Keep going, dude, you're doing great!

I was really holding my tongue on the beans thing.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 03, 2018, 11:53:46 pm
I was really holding my tongue on the beans thing.

You don't say.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 04, 2018, 12:00:53 am
/stupidfaceemoji

Pa q sepas, I tremendously enjoy making vegetarian chili with copious amounts of beans, kidneys preferably, but you can go crazy and mix kidneys and black beans if you like to live on the edge. I also add quite a number of tomatoes, canned romas, even, if you were wondering about my redneck bonafides. I used to mix in a couple of jalapenos but now I'd probably use fresh habaneros.

Of course, I also occasionally enjoy a glass of whisky. Or do I like Scotch whiskey? It's been so long I can scarcely remember.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 04, 2018, 01:09:15 am
I hate Fritos, I will only eat them with Frito pie. Unacceptable for a purist. The difference between chili pie and Frito pie.
Thank you, the vegetarians took over this thread apparently.  Fritos it is.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 04, 2018, 06:36:30 am
Pa q sepas, I tremendously enjoy making vegetarian chili with copious amounts of beans, kidneys preferably, but you can go crazy and mix kidneys and black beans if you like to live on the edge. I also add quite a number of tomatoes, canned romas, even, if you were wondering about my redneck bonafides. I used to mix in a couple of jalapenos but now I'd probably use fresh habaneros.

Of course, I also occasionally enjoy a glass of whisky. Or do I like Scotch whiskey? It's been so long I can scarcely remember.

And you enjoy all this while watching the baseball playoffs.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Dark Star on October 04, 2018, 07:51:40 am
I also am not from Texas . . .

I saw an article once in which Chet Flippo divulged his favorite chili recipe. Flippo was from Texas, and did from time to time kind of style himself (or allow himself the pretension) as being some kind of an authority on many things Texan, I believe. Flippo's recipe, as I recall, contained among other things filet mignon (presumably chopped up), and some kind of chocolate. All those years as a media darling apparently left him effete and pretty fucked up.

Whatever. Being from Texas or not doesn't have everything to do with it. I am in line with the man from FLA (and the man from the happiest country on Earth - Panama) on this. Meat, yes ... beans (and many other things), fuck no.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 04, 2018, 09:39:46 am
"Chili", the dish, is short for "chili con carne", which by definition is "con carne".  I'm sure vegetables and chiles are a fine meal, but it's not "chili".  "Chili" has a specific definition and ingredient list, first and foremost of which is beef. 

Is venison chili not chili?

Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 04, 2018, 10:34:36 am
Is venison chili not chili?

It seems to me that these questions, like all matters of theology and religion, are ultimately unanswerable. Each of you needs to face the baseball gods and satisfy yourself that you're doing what's needed, understanding all the while that these gods are fickle, cruel, impetuous, and prone to take offense at the slightest bobble. If you can honestly answer that yes, vegetarian chili is sufficient, go for it. If beans are in your chili, this isn't a test of Texanhood and shouldn't be confused with it, even if the practice is barbaric. If for some weird reason you don't like Fritos, ok then.

Just don't blow it.

Me, I'm going to Avalon Diner today for lunch.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: subnuclear on October 04, 2018, 11:46:08 am
I think ancho chili and cumin are such a strong and distinctive combination of seasoning that whenever you use them together, the product will be associated with chili whether you like it or not. For instance, if you try to serve something like "Turkey Ancho-Cumin stew" they will say it tastes like "chili" and would be reasonable to do so.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 04, 2018, 12:01:54 pm
This is beginning to feel a bit like an installment of Prime Minister's Questions.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 04, 2018, 01:50:06 pm
Chili is chili. If one adds an additional appellation to it, then it is chili plus or minus, something. e.g., Chili with Beans, Vegetarian Chili. White Chili. Why is this so difficult to understand?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: das on October 04, 2018, 02:11:10 pm
I like chili.  I like eating chili over Fritos with a little sharp cheddar sprinkled on top in the vicinity of an Astros playoff game.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 04, 2018, 05:57:19 pm
Chili is chili. If one adds an additional appellation to it, then it is chili plus or minus, something. e.g., Chili with Beans, Vegetarian Chili. White Chili. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Chili is like church. Many attend, but few understand.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 04, 2018, 06:32:16 pm
Chili is chili. If one adds an additional appellation to it, then it is chili plus or minus, something. e.g., Chili with Beans, Vegetarian Chili. White Chili. Why is this so difficult to understand?

What do you need to add to make white chili beyond the eight tablespoons of entitlement?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: austro on October 04, 2018, 06:37:19 pm
What do you need to add to make white chili beyond the eight tablespoons of entitlement?

Just call it 1/2 cup like normal folks do, you elitist!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 04, 2018, 07:15:58 pm
Chili is chili. If one adds an additional appellation to it, then it is chili plus or minus, something. e.g., Chili with Beans, Vegetarian Chili. White Chili. Why is this so difficult to understand?

If my bowl of corn flakes identifies as a bowl of chili, why can't it be called is a bowl of chili?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 04, 2018, 07:19:10 pm
If my bowl of corn flakes identifies as a bowl of chili, why can't it be called is a bowl of chili?

Trans-chili.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Tom Servo on October 04, 2018, 07:30:18 pm
Trans-chili.

Which bathroom do you go to afterward? 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Nate in IA on October 04, 2018, 07:45:21 pm
If my bowl of corn flakes identifies as a bowl of chili, why can't it be called is a bowl of chili?

SFN!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 04, 2018, 07:58:56 pm
Which bathroom do you go to afterward?

That's easy, the closest one...
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 05, 2018, 10:58:22 am
Which bathroom do you go to afterward?

Well played, sir.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: das on October 05, 2018, 11:58:18 am
That's easy, the closest one...

Beat me to the punchline.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 05, 2018, 12:01:21 pm
can I get a amen
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: WVastro on October 05, 2018, 12:58:03 pm
Got my frito pie down just in time! Go Stros!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 05, 2018, 01:01:55 pm
Got my frito pie down just in time! Go Stros!

You’ll see it again soon enough.  One way or another. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: WVastro on October 05, 2018, 01:08:24 pm
You’ll see it again soon enough.  One way or another.

Funny you say that... ugh.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 05, 2018, 01:12:28 pm
Venison chili con fritos y queso y cebolla turned out great.  Vamos los Astros.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 05, 2018, 03:13:02 pm
Just chiming in to say this thread is amazing.  Crap like this is why I love this site.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 05, 2018, 05:02:55 pm
may I repeat the same 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: bubba on October 05, 2018, 11:15:35 pm
Really, truly good chili has no recipe, but relies on what feels good when you do it.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 09, 2018, 10:41:43 am
Before the game yesterday, I got the Frito Pie from State Fare near Memorial City Mall.  They serve it with queso instead of shredded cheddar.   It's a deviation from the norm, but damn if it wasn't good.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 09, 2018, 10:49:42 am
Really, truly good chili has no recipe, but relies on what feels good when you do it.

Just disturbing that this is the prevalent attitude.  No respect for tradition or the old ways.  "If it feels good, do it".  Damn Hippies.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 11, 2018, 01:59:38 pm
I went to Avalon Diner today for my pre-ALCS Frito pie.  Bregman was at the table next to us.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 11, 2018, 02:39:56 pm
I went to Avalon Diner today for my pre-ALCS Frito pie.  Bregman was at the table next to us.

Was he also eating Frito Pie?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 11, 2018, 02:49:22 pm
Was he also eating Frito Pie?

Bacon and eggs.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: chuck on October 11, 2018, 02:58:45 pm
How's Altuve's knee?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 11, 2018, 03:27:46 pm
How's Altuve's knee?

Better than Correa's back I hope.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 11, 2018, 03:49:48 pm
especially with his impending  December marriage
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 11, 2018, 04:29:25 pm
especially with his impending  December marriage

Meanwhile, Verlander's back - and other things - appear to be just fine (https://www.usmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/kate-upton-baby-bump.jpg).
Title: Frito Pie
Post by: geezerdonk on October 11, 2018, 05:41:18 pm
Bacon?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 11, 2018, 06:13:00 pm

Bacon makes everything better.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 11, 2018, 09:34:04 pm
Bacon?

Bacon was left. Looked good though.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 11, 2018, 09:48:49 pm
Chili is chili. If one adds an additional appellation to it, then it is chili plus or minus, something. e.g., Chili with Beans, Vegetarian Chili. White Chili. Why is this so difficult to understand?

This is the truth.

I hope none of the authentic chili purists are using ground beef instead of diced/cubed meat. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 12, 2018, 07:29:38 am
This is the truth.

I hope none of the authentic chili purists are using ground beef instead of diced/cubed meat.

Of course we aren’t.  Cubed beef, chiles, beef fat, water,  masa, salt, pepper. That’s it. No beans. No tomatoes. No cinnamon. No spaghetti. No zucchini.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: das on October 12, 2018, 09:41:08 am
Of course we aren’t.  Cubed beef, chiles, beef fat, water,  masa, salt, pepper. That’s it. No beans. No tomatoes. No cinnamon. No spaghetti. No zucchini.

What about over rice?  I like chili over rice sometimes.  Over elbow noodles occasionally too.  Over spaghetti is an abomination with those noodles flopping all over the place and splattering precious chili on your shirt.  How about if you throw in some green peppers in along with the chiles?  They're both in the pepper group.  I had a beefalo chili once.  Pretty good although the beef(alo) was a bit too lean.  i assume chili over fritos is ok since that is a classic frito pie and a key ingredient is chili.  How about dipping scoops fritos into chili?  What about crunching fritos up in your chili, as I've seen before.  It's basically rough-ground masa.  Still chili?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: JimR on October 12, 2018, 09:44:58 am
What about over rice?  I like chili over rice sometimes.  Over elbow noodles occasionally too.  Over spaghetti is an abomination with those noodles flopping all over the place and splattering precious chili on your shirt.  How about if you throw in some green peppers in along with the chiles?  They're both in the pepper group.  I had a beefalo chili once.  Pretty good although the beef(alo) was a bit too lean.  i assume chili over fritos is ok since that is a classic frito pie and a key ingredient is chili.  How about dipping scoops fritos into chili?  What about crunching fritos up in your chili, as I've seen before.  It's basically rough-ground masa.  Still chili?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Rice? Holy shit.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 12, 2018, 10:10:39 am
Of course Frito pie chili often came from a can. How long since you've had a big hot steamin' bowl of chili from a can? Well that's too long.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: das on October 12, 2018, 10:31:25 am
Of course Frito pie chili often came from a can. How long since you've had a big hot steamin' bowl of chili from a can? Well that's too long.

My last frito pie "chili" came squirting from a whirring, clicking chili (and cheese goop) dispenser at 7-11 a block from work because, you know, early afternoon game time starts during the work week...  There were no beans.  Or ground beef.  Or tomatoes.  So, I think the diarrhea sludge was surprisingly compliant with the OWA TZ definition of chili.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: MRaup on October 12, 2018, 10:36:55 am
My last frito pie "chili" came squirting from a whirring, clicking chili (and cheese goop) dispenser at 7-11 a block from work because, you know, early afternoon game time starts during the work week...  There were no beans.  Or ground beef.  Or tomatoes.  So, I think the diarrhea sludge was surprisingly compliant with the OWA TZ definition of chili.

This diarrhea sludge... Was this before or after you ate it?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 12, 2018, 10:44:02 am
Of course Frito pie chili often came from a can. How long since you've had a big hot steamin' bowl of chili from a can? Well that's too long.

The last time was shortly followed by something that also included the words "steamin'" and "can".
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: das on October 12, 2018, 11:07:44 am
This diarrhea sludge... Was this before or after you ate it?

The obvious answer, of course, is both.  Just doing my part for the team.....
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: juliogotay on October 12, 2018, 11:24:14 am
The last time was shortly followed by something that also included the words "steamin'" and "can".

Way too much information.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: TeeJoe on October 12, 2018, 12:41:50 pm
Of course Frito pie chili often came from a can. How long since you've had a big hot steamin' bowl of chili from a can? Well that's too long.

My Jr year of High School several friends and I started camping out on Lake Sam Rayburn on weekends.  By camping I mean sleeping in the bed of a pickup and eating what we caught.  Wolf brand chili (w beans!) was our backup option to starving sometimes.  For a hungry teenager that stuff was awesome!!!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 12, 2018, 01:29:43 pm
What about over rice?  I like chili over rice sometimes.  Over elbow noodles occasionally too.  Over spaghetti is an abomination with those noodles flopping all over the place and splattering precious chili on your shirt.  How about if you throw in some green peppers in along with the chiles?  They're both in the pepper group.  I had a beefalo chili once.  Pretty good although the beef(alo) was a bit too lean.  i assume chili over fritos is ok since that is a classic frito pie and a key ingredient is chili.  How about dipping scoops fritos into chili?  What about crunching fritos up in your chili, as I've seen before.  It's basically rough-ground masa.  Still chili?

Ground up fritos or corn chips are actually acceptable in lieu of masa.  Rice?  GTFOH.  Green peppers are actually chiles, so yes they are acceptable.  They provide flavor, even if no heat. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 12, 2018, 01:41:22 pm
I use the tobassaco  chili starter.  gotta do my homage to Louisiana
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 12, 2018, 02:05:02 pm
My Jr year of High School several friends and I started camping out on Lake Sam Rayburn on weekends.  By camping I mean sleeping in the bed of a pickup and eating what we caught.  Wolf brand chili (w beans!) was our backup option to starving sometimes.  For a hungry teenager that stuff was awesome!!!

For some reason I always loved the Wolf Brand Chili ads.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1GG780-Dw

ETA: for those of you who didn't grow up in Texas in the 60s, this is an important part of your education. Along with the Dolly Parton/Porter Wagoner Breeze Detergent ads, they were regional tv at its best.

ETAA: Dolly Parton & Porter Wagoner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUSFYBfmOiQ
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 12, 2018, 02:07:56 pm
Chili over rice is a good way to eat rice. I like chili over eggs too.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 12, 2018, 02:15:07 pm
Chili over rice is a good way to eat rice. I like chili over eggs too.

Best thing to do with rice, truly, is not eat it.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: juliogotay on October 12, 2018, 03:47:21 pm
My Jr year of High School several friends and I started camping out on Lake Sam Rayburn on weekends.  By camping I mean sleeping in the bed of a pickup and eating what we caught.  Wolf brand chili (w beans!) was our backup option to starving sometimes.  For a hungry teenager that stuff was awesome!!!

 The Holiday House in Austin used to have pretty good chili and eggs with cheese on their breakfast menu. Great hangover food.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 12, 2018, 04:04:19 pm
Chili over rice is a good way to eat rice. I like chili over eggs too.

A chili omelette at the Camellia Grill in New Orleans is the greatest defense for chili with beans.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 12, 2018, 04:04:46 pm
Best thing to do with rice, truly, is not eat it.

Wow, I've never met anyone else who detested rice.  I thought I was alone.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 12, 2018, 04:27:56 pm
Wow, I've never met anyone else who detested rice.  I thought I was alone.

I don't detest it, it's just that it's not really any good for you.  Brown rice has some actual nutrients, but either way rice is still just hollow carbs meant to fill you up in the short term.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: subnuclear on October 12, 2018, 04:36:08 pm
Wow, I've never met anyone else who detested rice.  I thought I was alone.

I always thought they let in too many legacy applicants.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: juliogotay on October 12, 2018, 05:09:25 pm
A chili omelette at the Camellia Grill in New Orleans is the greatest defense for chili with beans.

I've had several breakfasts there. Good place.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 12, 2018, 06:27:57 pm
I don't detest it, it's just that it's not really any good for you.  Brown rice has some actual nutrients, but either way rice is still just hollow carbs meant to fill you up in the short term.

Paella is pretty good, made the right way of course.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: austro on October 12, 2018, 06:35:33 pm
I don't detest it, it's just that it's not really any good for you.  Brown rice has some actual nutrients, but either way rice is still just hollow carbs meant to fill you up in the short term.

Hell, beer is just hollow carbs meant to fill me up in the short term. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop drinking it.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: VirtualBob on October 12, 2018, 06:54:44 pm
Chili over rice is a good way to eat rice. I like chili over eggs too.
Chili over ________ is a good way to eat _______.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 13, 2018, 07:52:23 am
I don't detest it, it's just that it's not really any good for you.  Brown rice has some actual nutrients, but either way rice is still just hollow carbs meant to fill you up in the short term.

And what’s the problem?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2018, 09:32:18 am
I bought the goods to make frito pie for this afternoon, and the wife comes in this morning and says, forlornly, "are we having frito pie for dinner?"  I said "it could be lunch or dinner, but whatever you want.  Do you not like frito pie".  She says "no, but I don't want to fuck with the mojo and all your goofy superstitions...frito pie it is."
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 13, 2018, 09:40:26 am
I bought the goods to make frito pie for this afternoon, and the wife comes in this morning and says, forlornly, "are we having frito pie for dinner?"  I said "it could be lunch or dinner, but whatever you want.  Do you not like frito pie".  She says "no, but I don't want to fuck with the mojo and all your goofy superstitions...frito pie it is."

Mrs Hawk is a good person.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2018, 09:43:36 am
Mrs Hawk is a good person.

One of the good things about her being an Aggie is understanding supporting your team.  Standing up during the game and practicing yelling are dumb, but frito pie and rum are serious business.  She gets it.  I'm grateful for that. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 13, 2018, 10:05:49 am
For some reason I always loved the Wolf Brand Chili ads.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1GG780-Dw
I always wanted to be eating a bowl of Wolf Brand Chili when their commercial aired, so I could say, “but I’m eating it right now!”
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: MRaup on October 13, 2018, 11:38:09 am
I always wanted to be eating a bowl of Wolf Brand Chili when their commercial aired, so I could say, “but I’m eating it right now!”

Say neighbor, are you eating Wolf Brand Chili right now? Well gooooooooooolly, you better go out and get a can to replace the one you just ate!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 13, 2018, 12:28:20 pm
I actually met jim neighbors many many years ago when the dome was still shiny and new. (goooooooly reference)
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 13, 2018, 01:46:21 pm
Here's mine, and what I did before the ALDS.  I know it's not "authentic" but it did get me invited to Terlingua.

per 2 lbs meat (I like a mix of diced and very course ground, you have to ask the store to grind it as course as they can, unless you have your own). I typically use venison and add some course ground pork belly or butt, but if using beef with a good amount of fat in it you shouldn't need to.

Dutch oven
small food processor (coffee grinder will also work, you may have to use it in batches.  Clean out by chopping up cubes of staleish white bread)

2 cups liquid (any combination of water/beer/broth, I use Shiner Black and beef/venison broth)
3/4 teaspoon baking soda
6 dried ancho chiles, 2 dried pasilla chiles and 3 dried red fresnos/chile colorados or comparable, stemmed, seeded and torn into 1" pieces
1/4 c ground tortilla chips
2 T cumin seeds
1 T coriander seeds
1 T each: paprika, dried mexican oregano
1 t fresh ground black pepper
1/2 t dried thyme
2 T beef tallow
1 medium onion, chopped fine
3 garlic cloves, minced
2 T canned chipotle chile in adobo, minced
4 oz tomato puree
2 t sugar
2 T cider vinegar

Heat oven (smoker and a propane camp stove work just the same) to 275 with rack in lower middle.  Toss meat with 2 T water, 1 t salt and baking soda and set aside for 30 mins. Baking soda changes the ph of the meat, makes it retain moisture better and brown more evenly.

Heat dutch oven on med-hi heat on the stove, add dried chiles and toast about 5 minutes, stirring frequently, lower heat and remove if they start to smoke.  Remove and let cool (makes them crisp up a bit). Add cumin/coriander seeds, toast until fragrant.

Add tortilla chips, toasted chiles and seeds, paprika, garlic powder, oregano, thyme & black pepper to food processor and grind until fine.

Heat tallow in dutch oven.  Cook onion until softened, add garlic & cook 1 minute.  Add meat and cook until browned & fond (black sticky bits) begins to form on bottom of pot (12-15 mins).  Add ancho mixture and chipotles in adobo, mix well and cook, stirring for a couple of minutes.

Add 2 cups liquid, sugar, and tomato puree, bring to a boil, scrape bottom of pot to loosen browned bits, stir, cover & transfer to oven/smoker for 1.5 to 2 hours, stirring every 15 mins to prevent sticking.

Remove from oven, let stand uncovered for 10 mins.  Add vinegar and salt to taste, stir.  Do not skim off any fat, most spices are fat soluble, so that little orange slick is pure flavor.

Garnish with whatever you want:  cheddar/jack/whatever cheese, diced onion, serranos, avocado, lime juice, cilantro.

Serve with whatever you want:  fritos, corn chips, beans, rice, cornbread, tamales, crackers
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Bench on October 13, 2018, 03:51:31 pm
My chili isn’t as complicated or likely as good, but it’s been simmering since 1:00 and tasted damn good. The whole family is frito pieing tonight.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 13, 2018, 05:19:09 pm
My chili isn’t as complicated or likely as good, but it’s been simmering since 1:00 and tasted damn good. The whole family is frito pieing tonight.

Good man.

That one's not as complicated as it sounds, 1 trip to the store, 2 hours prep, and it's done 2 hours later.  Great for inside rainy/cold winter days.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Fredia on October 13, 2018, 05:32:26 pm
crock pot good to keep it warm 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: WVastro on October 13, 2018, 06:16:53 pm
Had my frito pie for lunch so I could make a ribeye for dinner. Delicious!
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on October 13, 2018, 06:21:20 pm
For some reason I always loved the Wolf Brand Chili ads.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L1GG780-Dw

ETA: for those of you who didn't grow up in Texas in the 60s, this is an important part of your education. Along with the Dolly Parton/Porter Wagoner Breeze Detergent ads, they were regional tv at its best.

ETAA: Dolly Parton & Porter Wagoner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUSFYBfmOiQ

My friends and I used to get a kick out of imitating Captain Picard ordering it from the replicator: "Computer, Wolf Brand Chili."
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 13, 2018, 06:41:52 pm
My friends and I used to get a kick out of imitating Captain Picard ordering it from the replicator: "Computer, Wolf Brand Chili."

You and your friends were nerds.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: moriartp on October 13, 2018, 07:04:45 pm
About slam a frito pie burger at Hubcap. Let's get it on.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 13, 2018, 11:52:30 pm
About slam a frito pie burger at Hubcap. Let's get it on.

It was fucking delicious.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 14, 2018, 09:46:27 am
My friends and I used to get a kick out of imitating Captain Picard ordering it from the replicator: "Computer, Wolf Brand Chili."

You didn’t ask for “Worf Brand Chili”, or did you get autocorrected?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on October 14, 2018, 10:24:11 am
You and your friends were nerds.

Hah. We were the ones who made being nerds cool.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Waldo on October 15, 2018, 01:05:11 pm
My friends and I used to get a kick out of imitating Captain Picard ordering it from the replicator: "Computer, Wolf Brand Chili."

Actually, it would be more like...

"Computer: chili.  Wolf Brand.  Hot, no beans."
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Tom Servo on October 15, 2018, 01:21:53 pm
Actually, it would be more like...

"Computer: chili.  Wolf Brand.  Hot, no beans."

Chili with no beans?  That's insane!  <runs and ducks for cover>
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: toddthebod on October 15, 2018, 03:29:00 pm
stir, cover & transfer to oven/smoker for 1.5 to 2 hours, stirring every 15 mins to prevent sticking.

Love the recipe.  Quick question.  I've never put chili into a smoker before.  But if you cover the pot, what is the purpose of putting it into a smoker?
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on October 15, 2018, 07:16:27 pm
Actually, it would be more like...

"Computer: chili.  Wolf Brand.  Hot, no beans."

*Slow clap*
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Lefty on October 16, 2018, 02:38:18 pm
Love the recipe.  Quick question.  I've never put chili into a smoker before.  But if you cover the pot, what is the purpose of putting it into a smoker?

Not so much about the smoke though you get a little when you stir it, but the smoker and camp stove allow you to cook it when you don't have access, or don't want access, to an indoor kitchen.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2018, 04:05:01 pm
Woofin' down the frito pie as I type...
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Limey on October 17, 2018, 08:42:59 am
Woofin' down the frito pie as I type...

I hope you didn't shit the bed as badly as the Astros did.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: toddthebod on October 17, 2018, 11:26:22 am
Not so much about the smoke though you get a little when you stir it, but the smoker and camp stove allow you to cook it when you don't have access, or don't want access, to an indoor kitchen.

Thanks.  I have a smoker on the back porch.  And my wife always complains when I use it because she says she can smell the smoke in the house for days afterwards.  When I make chili indoors, however, she doesn't complaint at all.  Maybe its because she just likes my chili more than the smoked brisket. 
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 18, 2018, 04:48:02 pm
Ate it last night before the game. Never doing that again. Frito pie has lost it's mojo. Got to find where it went.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: das on October 19, 2018, 08:52:49 am
Ate it last night before the game. Never doing that again. Frito pie has lost it's mojo. Got to find where it went.

You should know some time this morning.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: NeilT on October 19, 2018, 11:34:31 am
I think this is all on Bregman's video posting.  There are some things that can't be overcome.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 19, 2018, 11:45:07 am
They served it at lunch today.

I had some as an 'in memoriam' to the season.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: subnuclear on October 19, 2018, 12:21:14 pm
I think this is all on Bregman's video posting.  There are some things that can't be overcome.

I hope they never do that camera stare thing again.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Texifornia on October 19, 2018, 12:45:01 pm
I had last has Frito Pie in '15 on the day of Game 4. I had completely missed to daytime start and had just finished a "big hot steaming bowl" when I turned on the TV only to find my mistake and learn of the events of that game.

In 2017 I never touched the stuff. Then after the multi-dimensional cluster-fuck of Game 4 this year I thought maybe to re-boot the mojo I should try it again. So, I carefully checked the game time and went to the local market. I selected an onion, a block of cheese, a bag of Fritos, and a can of Hormel chili. No Wolf Brand, but I soldered on. Stack up at the express line so I selected a standard line with only two customers. The first customer was heavily laden with coupons and still wielding a check book, no problem, I've got time. When the customer just before me is almost entirely checked out there's a power failure. We wait. We check the power company's website on our phone for some idea when we might get it back but you never know around here. SDGE has almost third world reliability and it could be five minutes or five hours. I decide not to wait. There's another store not too far away that has power so I leave my basket of Frito pie ingredients and head out. I get the same basket of ingredients at the new market but they don't have Wolf Brand either. The nice lady at the check-out sees my Astro shirt and says "I hope they win, that should have been a home run". I thank and agree with her and head out. I should have just enough time for pie before first pitch, but by the time I get home the power outage has hit my house and I have an electric stove. I chop the onion and grate the cheese. I plop the chili out of the can and into the pot like knarley brown cranberry sauce with a schloop! sound and wait. Just in time the power is restored and the brown mass heats to a thick mush. I assemble a text book pie and wolf it down while the satellite re-boots. We both finish just before first pitch. The first inning goes O.K., but the combination of canned chili and elimination game jitters is a recipe for gastric "discomfort".

The universe was trying to tell me something and I simply wouldn't listen. I have eaten my last Frito pie.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 19, 2018, 12:51:06 pm

The universe was trying to tell me something and I simply wouldn't listen. I have eaten my last Frito pie.

God bless you,  good sir.
Title: Re: Frito Pie
Post by: JimR on October 27, 2018, 02:47:06 pm
I think this is all on Bregman's video posting.  There are some things that can't be overcome.

Agree