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General Discussion => Archive => Game Zone 2018 => Topic started by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on July 05, 2018, 07:15:01 pm
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1. Yoan Moncada (S) 2B
2. Yolmer Sanchez (S) 3B
3. Jose Abreu (R) 1B
4. Avisail Garcia (R) RF
5. Daniel Palka (L) LF
6. Matt Davidson (R) DH
7. Omar Narvaez (L) C
8. Leury Garcia (S) CF
9. Tim Anderson (R) SS
SP Carlos Rodon
1. George Springer (R) RF
2. Alex Bregman (R) SS
3. Jose Altuve (R) 2B
4. Yuli Gurriel (R) 3B
5. Evan Gattis (R) DH
6. Josh Reddick (L) LF
7. Tyler White (R) 1B
8. Max Stassi (R) C
9. Jake Marisnick (R) CF
SP Justin Verlander
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I want to meet the content professional who decided that dramatic slow mo replays of Tyler white sliding headfirst into second uncontested was the preferred highlight option while the announcers read the lineup.
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Verlander with 1-2-3 first
Astros get a walk and a single, but strand them both.
No score after one
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My attsportsnet feed is about two minutes behind Gameday at mlb.com.
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The LandOwner appears to want to demonstrate that his last outing was not the start of something bad.
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My attsportsnet feed is about two minutes behind Gameday at mlb.com.
Three of us were streaming the England-Colombia match the other day at the office. We're all within 15 feet of one another, but there was a difference between our streams of about 2 1/2 minutes on the game clock.
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The LandOwner appears to want to demonstrate that his last outing was not the start of something bad.
I looked up the name Verlander the other night. It literally translate to "pasture dweller".
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Springer using Altuve's bat....apparently the one with a hole in it.
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I looked up the name Verlander the other night. It literally translate to "pasture dweller".
I suppose you could describe a ball field as a pasture.
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I suppose you could describe a ball field as a pasture.
I've played in pastures before. We had a field in Cleveland, NC that was actually pretty nice. The owner grazed his horses in the outfield.
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I remember Carlos Rodon was one of the names floated as a draft choice possibility but the Astros went with Brady Aiken. Is Aiken still in baseball? I saw no 2018 MiLB stats at baseball-reference,
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I looked up the name Verlander the other night. It literally translate to "pasture dweller".
'Verlander' denotes 'the dweller by or on the pasture land'.
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Verlander#ixzz5KQkDYHHz
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I remember Carlos Rodon was one of the names floated as a draft choice possibility but the Astros went with Brady Aiken. Is Aiken still in baseball? I saw no 2018 MiLB stats at baseball-reference,
After the Astros didn't sign him, Aiken went to IMG Academy, sort of a "post-grad" school for athletes. He tore his UCL in the first inning he pitched, and had to have Tommy John surgery. The Indians drafted him in 2015, and he's still in their system. He was at low-A ball last year, but didn't do too well. As far as I know he's still in the Indians' system, but I don't know for sure.
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I remember Carlos Rodon was one of the names floated as a draft choice possibility but the Astros went with Brady Aiken. Is Aiken still in baseball? I saw no 2018 MiLB stats at baseball-reference,
From a recent Jonathan Mayo Q&A:
"All reports were that he had a healthy offseason and was looking forward to turning a corner in '18. Then, he vanished. There's been no news of a particular injury, but there were things that needed to be addressed based on his '17 season. His stuff backed up, with a dip in velocity, his walk rate spiked and he missed fewer bats. Physically, he got bigger and had trouble repeating his delivery, which of course leads to command issues. So it's possible the Indians simply needed to hit a reset switch with him, hold him back in Arizona and almost start over again."
https://www.mlb.com/news/pipeline-inbox-royals-return-for-herrera/c-282405924?tid=151437456
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After the Astros didn't sign him, Aiken went to IMG Academy, sort of a "post-grad" school for athletes. He tore his UCL in the first inning he pitched, and had to have Tommy John surgery. The Indians drafted him in 2015, and he's still in their system. He was at low-A ball last year, but didn't do too well. As far as I know he's still in the Indians' system, but I don't know for sure.
Yeah, I found all that too. But I couldn't find anything on Aiken playing anywhere in 2018. Nor did I find any info on if he is injured.
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From a recent Jonathan Mayo Q&A:
"All reports were that he had a healthy offseason and was looking forward to turning a corner in '18. Then, he vanished. There's been no news of a particular injury, but there were things that needed to be addressed based on his '17 season. His stuff backed up, with a dip in velocity, his walk rate spiked and he missed fewer bats. Physically, he got bigger and had trouble repeating his delivery, which of course leads to command issues. So it's possible the Indians simply needed to hit a reset switch with him, hold him back in Arizona and almost start over again."
https://www.mlb.com/news/pipeline-inbox-royals-return-for-herrera/c-282405924?tid=151437456
Word is his 97-99 mph velocity in high school has dropped to 88-90. Perhaps that's just coming back from the surgery, but it's not a good sign.
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From a recent Jonathan Mayo Q&A:
"All reports were that he had a healthy offseason and was looking forward to turning a corner in '18. Then, he vanished. There's been no news of a particular injury, but there were things that needed to be addressed based on his '17 season. His stuff backed up, with a dip in velocity, his walk rate spiked and he missed fewer bats. Physically, he got bigger and had trouble repeating his delivery, which of course leads to command issues. So it's possible the Indians simply needed to hit a reset switch with him, hold him back in Arizona and almost start over again."
https://www.mlb.com/news/pipeline-inbox-royals-return-for-herrera/c-282405924?tid=151437456
Too bad for the guy (but good for the Astros) that Gretchen Carlson's husband basically screwed the kid out of $2.5MM.
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Now THAT'S getting blown up there, Gattis.
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I'm not crazy about putting a couple of guys on each inning and leaving them there.
BRING MY PEOPLE HOME!
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Too bad for the guy (but good for the Astros) that Gretchen Carlson's husband basically screwed the kid out of $2.5MM.
It was the kid's call.
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It was the kid's call.
Ultimately yes, but he got bad advice.
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I'm not crazy about putting a couple of guys on each inning and leaving them there.
I don't much care for that trend.
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Trend broken.
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Yehaw!!!! 2 run Altuve bomb.
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Trend broken.
I approve of this.
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Yehaw!!!! 2 run Altuve bomb.
That was a hanging fastball...belt high on the inside half of the plate.
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That was a hanging fastball...belt high on the inside half of the plate.
From a lefty. It was the pitch trajectory of your dreams.
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Oops. That wasn't what I was hoping to see.
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Verlander squanders the lead and we're tied up again. Disappointing.
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Another fucking double play ends a promising inning and bails out Rodon, who was having a lot of trouble throwing strikes.
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Another GIDP.
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Well, that was a fucking let down.
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Did Kalas say 87 DP's? That cant be right, I have seen a couple hundred and I have only watched half the games.
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I can only assume that the 1B ump wasn't actually watching that pitch and had to call no-swing because of that.
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Ump calling no swing on Verlander’s 11th K is BS. Horrible call.
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Man, Springer cannot catch a break.
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Damn. Devo hasn’t looked sharp over the course of his last couple of outings.
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No bueno!
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Crap. Devo puts us in position to keep the "Astros lose when Verlander has 10+ strikeouts" streak alive.
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Damn. Devo hasn’t looked sharp over the course of his last couple of outings.
No he has not. His command has been very spotty.
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Yuli’s a pleasure to watch.
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That sucked.
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Yuli’s a pleasure to watch.
That play not so much.
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That play not so much.
He did his job, stayed in the rundown long enough to get Reddick in scoring position.
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Swing the bat, Tyler!
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Kemp draws a leadoff walk to start the 9th...need scoot him along...
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Marwin with a single...Astros on the corners, nobody out...
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Come on Springer...infield back, conceding the tying run...
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He did his job, stayed in the rundown long enough to get Reddick in scoring position.
I think that’s what’s fun to watch. He plays with his head on.
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Great read off the bat from Kemp to go first to third. He was motoring.
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Springer!
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Springer with an RBI single!
And we're tied...winning run at 2B, nobody out
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Kemp started the late inning mojo again, and the game is tied!
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Bregman HAS to move Marwin to 3B here...hopefully avoiding the twin killing in the process.
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Bregman walks to load the bases...nobody out for Altuve...
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Bases loaded for Altuve, no out.
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Jose in full hack mode...swings at pitches he couldn't hit with broom and punches out
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Now up to Yuli...
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When was altuve’s worst at bat ever discussed? Was that only yesterday?
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Gurriel!!!!
Walks it off with an RBI single!
Astros win 4-3
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Yuli delivers.
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Yuli G!
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I'm surprised the infield was in for Yuli there...just punched it over a drawn in second baseman...
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Jose in full hack mode...swings at pitches he couldn't hit with broom and punches out
He has been terrible in the clutch. No, worse than that.
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Nice to win, I got pretty pessimistic a couple of times tonight...
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I'm surprised the infield was in for Yuli there...just punched it over a drawn in second baseman...
Have to be in. Would have been a hit either way.
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I'm surprised the infield was in for Yuli there...just punched it over a drawn in second baseman...
I was, too. I don't understand the thought process behind not going for a traditional double play. I guess they were hoping for a home to first double play but it seems to me the more regular play is the better bet.
Anyway, I was 100% certain that Altuve was going to do what he did and I was 100% certain that Yuli would do what he did. I can't imagine I was alone in that.
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He has been terrible in the clutch. No, worse than that.
With the bases loaded and a pitcher struggling with command, and no where to put him. If he never swings the bat, he walks on four pitches and wins the game.
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Have to be in. Would have been a hit either way.
I would have played for two.
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If I read correctly, Yuli, Bregman and Altuve are 1,2,5 in the AL in RISP respectively. That doesn't not really capture the order of magnitude I would prefer Yuli or Alex to Altuve.
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I was, too. I don't understand the thought process behind not going for a traditional double play. I guess they were hoping for a home to first double play but it seems to me the more regular play is the better bet.
Anyway, I was 100% certain that Altuve was going to do what he did and I was 100% certain that Yuli would do what he did. I can't imagine I was alone in that.
Agree 100% with last paragraph.
They were playing to force the winning run at the plate. If they are back, and he chops one, game over. They were playing for one out at home, and if they get two home to first, celebrate. My thinking would be “we cannot count on a double play. Let’s be sure we force the guy at home.”
Kemp started it again.
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They were playing to force the winning run at the plate. If they are back, and he chops one, game over. They were playing for one out at home, and if they get two home to first, celebrate. My thinking would be “we cannot count on a double play. Let’s be sure we force the guy at home.
I was reminded of the situation a year or so ago, when the Blue Jay and A's were tied in the 9th...Jays had the bases loaded, and either no body out or one out...batter hits hard one-hopper right at the first baseman, who reaches out to try to tag the runner from first...umpire signals safe, no tag, so the first baseman throws home for what he thought was a 3-2 force. Blue Jays challenge and say "wait a minute, looked like he tagged the runner from 1B". So they reviewed it, and yep, overturned the ump's no tag call, meaning the runner at the plate was no longer forced...winning run scores. Bob Melvin went ballistic, and protested the game, but eventually lost. Just a crappy break.
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When was altuve’s worst at bat ever discussed? Was that only yesterday?
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He’s had three of them in the past four games or something.
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He’s had three of them in the past four games or something.
He also had the only hit w/RISP through the first 8 innings tonight.
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Kemp started it again.
Hinch called him the spark. I’m glad he’s here.
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He also had the only hit w/RISP through the first 8 innings tonight.
Yep—I doubt that was lost on anyone.
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Hopefully Springer's game-tying single can help him turn things around. When you're going good, it seems every line drive drops, every ground ball has eyes. When you're struggling, you blister the ball all over the yard right at people. George has had some good swings that should have been hits. Hopefully this puts a cap on it.
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He has been terrible in the clutch. No, worse than that.
I know you hate Altuve for some reason, but at least get the facts right. Late/Close, he's batting .308. Runners in scoring position, .366 w/ .549 SLG, bases loaded, .429 w/ .714 SLG.
Although, based on your postings, his "clutch" stats are only counted by you when he fails.
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I know you hate Altuve for some reason, but at least get the facts right. Late/Close, he's batting .308. Runners in scoring position, .366 w/ .549 SLG, bases loaded, .429 w/ .714 SLG.
Although, based on your postings, his "clutch" stats are only counted by you when he fails.
Hate Altuve? No, I think he is a great person. I do hate lots of his ABs with the game on the line. You must not have been watching, but you can go back and read HH’s GZ comments in Tampa and the AB against the WS.
I think Altuve is a HOF hitter, but his propensity to chase pitches nine miles out of the zone, especially when a walk or a fly ball help the team, is a blemish on his greatness. Bases loaded, 9th inning, two out, down by one, give me Bregman or Yuli, not Altuve. I do not know the definition of close and late, but if after watching his bases loaded game on the line ABs at Tampa and Thursday’s CWS game, you were comforted by those stats, good for you. I guarantee you coaches and managers do not think that way in the context of a game. Those stats are relevant only to thinking/decisions about changes for the future.
I am thrilled he is on my team, but I do not like to see him in those situations. He seems to lack situational awareness or perhaps he does not give a flip about situations because all he wants is a hit. As I and others have said many times, if Altuve had Bregman’s plate discipline and approach, he would hit well over .400.
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Fair enough. I just love Altuve, and I just get irked when I see (what I feel) is a pile-on of criticism when he happens to fail in some specific situation. I, too, wish he had Bregman’s discipline, but you can say that about most players. “If he didn’t swing at balls out of the strike zone, he’d hit better”
But no, I don’t think you hate the guy. I was just a bit upset at that moment.
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Fair enough. I just love Altuve, and I just get irked when I see (what I feel) is a pile-on of criticism when he happens to fail in some specific situation. I, too, wish he had Bregman’s discipline, but you can say that about most players. “If he didn’t swing at balls out of the strike zone, he’d hit better”
But no, I don’t think you hate the guy. I was just a bit upset at that moment.
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You love him, which is part of the problem. He is great but could be far better.
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Altuve has hit .156 over his last 26 at bats until last night. He’s not just pushing with RISP, he’s slumping.
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Gurriel!!!!
Walks it off with an RBI single!
Astros win 4-3
During end of the walk off celebration, a teammate got carried away by throwing white powder on Gurriel's face, dangerously close to his eyes. Surely it wasn't lime.
Yuli was dusting himself off around 18:15 on this clip. https://www.mlb.com/video/astros-rally-in-9th-to-win/c-2237679583
(Was it Marisnick?)
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During end of the walk off celebration, a teammate got carried away by throwing white powder on Gurriel's face, dangerously close to his eyes. Surely it wasn't lime.
Yuli was dusting himself off around 18:15 on this clip. https://www.mlb.com/video/astros-rally-in-9th-to-win/c-2237679583
(Was it Marisnick?)
Yes, it was Marisnick. Stupid.
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Yes, it was Marisnick. Stupid.
Not the first time I've seen someone on the team do that.