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Title: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:16:22 pm
T1:

Springer flies out F8
Bregman flies out F9
Altuve hit by pitch
Correa takes a centercut meatball then whiffs at a hanging slider forvstrike three

No score.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: austro on May 15, 2018, 09:20:25 pm
Gregerson torpedoing the Shitbirds chances against the Twins.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: hostros7 on May 15, 2018, 09:21:20 pm
3-2 pitch to Trout was too good to take and blue rewarded him with a walk.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 09:21:39 pm
Well that was strike3.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:23:57 pm
Well that was strike3.

That was strike five.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:25:21 pm
Quickly 2-0 Angels...
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: hostros7 on May 15, 2018, 09:25:49 pm
And it cost us an additional run to chase after Upton homers.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:26:21 pm
That pretty much kills the Astros’ chances in this one.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 09:26:45 pm
And of course it costs us on the homer.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 09:27:42 pm
That pretty much kills the Astros’ chances in this one.

Insurmountable.

2 run mercy rule in effect.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on May 15, 2018, 09:28:57 pm
Haven’t seen the replay but he didn’t look out to me live.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:29:29 pm
B1:

Trout...takes four strikes to fill the count, and takes strike five for a leadoff walk. Jeebus, he just takes 1B whenever he feels like it, no chance of an actual strike getting called   
Ohtani strikes out swinging
Upton homers on a screaming line drive to LF, Trout scores
Pujols flies out F8
Simmons smokes one right at Correa who gets knocked down. Correa can’t pick it up and scored a single
Simmons caught stealing 2-6...Angels challenging...clearly out...yep

2-0 Angels
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 09:29:52 pm
I think it'll stand.

Agree live I thought safe.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on May 15, 2018, 09:36:40 pm
Shocked that Marwin laid off ball 3. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:37:22 pm
T2:

McCann whacks a single to LCF
Marwin...full count...strikes out swinging...now 0 for his last 19
Gattis bounces into a 6U-3 double play on the first pitch

2-0 Angels
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 15, 2018, 09:38:21 pm
I gotta go to bed. Angels already scored, so not much left to hope for.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 15, 2018, 09:41:08 pm
More strike outs and double plays. Regression to the mean is a cruel mistress.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 09:46:56 pm
Cole goes 1, 2, 3 in the second.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 09:54:20 pm
Astros bats harmless in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on May 15, 2018, 09:59:17 pm
Nothing to chirp at there, Trout. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:01:58 pm
HPU took a hot one in the facemask.

Immediately shaken.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 15, 2018, 10:02:36 pm
Ohtani has a power swing. Oh, HPU took one on the chin.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:09:40 pm
Quite the delay. 

Hope all is well with the HPU.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:12:52 pm
CB Bucknor now calling calling balls/strikes.

Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: astrojo on May 15, 2018, 10:13:41 pm
Great, Bucknor now. Prob should just go to bed now.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:14:36 pm
Bregman with a nice grab of an Ohtani foul popup on a full sprint.

To the 4th.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: hostros7 on May 15, 2018, 10:17:16 pm
Trout is good


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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:18:32 pm
Trout is good


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Yep.

Altuve smacked it good,  just 3 feet too short.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: hostros7 on May 15, 2018, 10:21:20 pm
Sweet piece of hitting by McCann drives in Bregman! A run!


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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:22:24 pm
We scored!  We scored!!

McCann pokes one down the LF line,  Bregman scores from 2nd.

He's run half a mile in the past 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:34:30 pm
Cole gets screwed on 3 pitches in the zone to Simmons,  gets to 3-2, then gives up a 2-out single on strike 5.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: BudGirl on May 15, 2018, 10:34:38 pm
I refuse to believe a team with Valbuena is better than the Astros.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:36:46 pm
I refuse to believe a team with Valbuena is better than the Astros.

Add massive over-managing to the mix and they should go down.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:45:13 pm
Astros down harmlessly.  Again.

I'm gonna hold on until the topof the order goes again.

Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:52:39 pm
Cole gives up a solo HR to Rivera.

Back to a 2 run deficit.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:56:19 pm
Now he pitches carefully to Trout and walks him.

Ohtani up.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 10:59:10 pm
Ohtani singles just past a diving Altuve,  but Trout is nailed at 3rd by Josh.

Cole threw to first several times to keep Trout close.   Paid off.

Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: DVauthrin on May 15, 2018, 11:00:57 pm
Astros down harmlessly.  Again.

I'm gonna hold on until the topof the order goes again.

Part of the reason guys like Reddick and Marwin were so good last year is that they were in favorable lineup spots.  Reddick spent many games hitting in front of Altuve in the 2 hole and Marwin had Yuli hitting behind him for much of the season.  By stacking the lineup so top heavy right now, it is exposing their weaknesses. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 15, 2018, 11:07:51 pm
Altuve gets a 2 out hit.

Correa up.   Ks swinging on a pitch above his eyebrows.

Thus ends my extremely half ass pbp.

Hope I'm pleasantly surprised when I check the score in the morning.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Jacksonian on May 15, 2018, 11:11:25 pm
Part of the reason guys like Reddick and Marwin were so good last year is that they were in favorable lineup spots.  Reddick spent many games hitting in front of Altuve in the 2 hole and Marwin had Yuli hitting behind him for much of the season.  By stacking the lineup so top heavy right now, it is exposing their weaknesses.

I don’t know. It looks to me like they’re trying way to hard to vaunt and score 5 runs with every swing.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 15, 2018, 11:22:50 pm
Marwin: bamboozled.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: DVauthrin on May 15, 2018, 11:26:16 pm
I don’t know. It looks to me like they’re trying way to hard to vaunt and score 5 runs with every swing.

To me, it’s a combination of trying too hard and teams figuring out the Astros can crush fastballs.  The Astros are seeing a heavy diet of offspeed stuff, which is exposing certain players weaknesses.  Marwin, for one, is seeing a ton of breaking balls this year, and has yet to adjust.  My point about the lineup construction is that by having Yuli hitting behind Marwin with the top of the order on base, he was in a position to see fastballs last year.  With Altuve behind him, Reddick saw a lot of fastballs as well.   Right now, the top of the lineup isn’t getting on base enough to force pitchers to have to throw fastballs to Marwin, Reddick etc.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: doyce7 on May 15, 2018, 11:32:46 pm
Don't run on Josh Reddick kids

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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 15, 2018, 11:40:06 pm
Josh Reddick: being awesome.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 15, 2018, 11:47:24 pm
It is your time to shine, Jose.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Texifornia on May 15, 2018, 11:48:18 pm
Open up the loading dock and let's unload these bases!
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: astrojo on May 15, 2018, 11:50:35 pm
Altuve!
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 15, 2018, 11:50:39 pm
Jose!!!!!
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Texifornia on May 15, 2018, 11:51:51 pm
AHHHH yea!

Jose MVP Altuve!
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: chuck on May 15, 2018, 11:52:28 pm
Why the hell did Scioscia let that idiot pitch to Altuve?
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: MRaup on May 15, 2018, 11:55:11 pm
Jesus Christ, seriously Jose?
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: MRaup on May 15, 2018, 11:57:38 pm
I legitimately cannot stand Kalas when he defends stupid fucking decisions like that. That was SUCH a wasted out, don't kiss Altuve's ass for wasting a chance to add on.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: astrojo on May 15, 2018, 11:57:41 pm
Will Harris? I was expecting Devo.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 16, 2018, 12:03:40 am
Harris has to earn it at some point.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: astrojo on May 16, 2018, 12:04:55 am
Harris has to earn it at some point.

He’s been great his last few innings, I just thought it would be Devo then Giles.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on May 16, 2018, 12:11:47 am
Top of the 9th Astros lead 4 to 3, would love an insurance run.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: believin on May 16, 2018, 12:15:53 am
Top of the 9th Astros lead 4 to 3, would love an insurance run.

Ask and it shall be given.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: astrojo on May 16, 2018, 12:16:17 am
2nd error of the inning plates a run. 5-3 Astros
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Texifornia on May 16, 2018, 12:17:09 am
Top of the 9th Astros lead 4 to 3, would love an insurance run.
'ere ya go!
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 16, 2018, 12:21:11 am
Pujols hit against the shift.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: MRaup on May 16, 2018, 12:23:23 am
Jesus Christ, Valbuena. That was 100 percent on you. Go sit down.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 16, 2018, 12:24:10 am
I mean, yay for the K, but damn, that was way up in the zone.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: MRaup on May 16, 2018, 12:25:43 am
I mean, yay for the K, but damn, that was way up in the zone.

100 percent a strike, though. He should've mashed that junk.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: astrojo on May 16, 2018, 12:26:25 am
Surprised they didn’t pinch run for Pujols.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on May 16, 2018, 12:27:11 am
Nice come from behind win, fellas.   
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on May 16, 2018, 12:28:15 am
100 percent a strike, though. He should've mashed that junk.
That's what I was thinking. Still, Giles got the save and the team showed some 2017 cajones with the comeback win.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: JimR on May 16, 2018, 05:53:33 am
Part of the reason guys like Reddick and Marwin were so good last year is that they were in favorable lineup spots.  Reddick spent many games hitting in front of Altuve in the 2 hole and Marwin had Yuli hitting behind him for much of the season.  By stacking the lineup so top heavy right now, it is exposing their weaknesses.

We won the WS with this order:

Springer
Bregman
Altuve
Correa
Gurriel

Gonzalez, Reddick, and Gattis were moved around in 6-8 depending on who was pitching and McCann was 9th. I do not know when he switched to that 1-5, but it was productive. The question going into this year was whether Marwin’s 2017 was a career year or a breakout year, and so far he is the old Marwin: missing or taking FBs and chasing bad breaking balls.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 16, 2018, 06:15:13 am
Nice to wake up and see that score. Kudos to the hearty souls who kept the gz vigil.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 16, 2018, 06:34:37 am
Jesus Christ, seriously Jose?

Did he try to score from 2nd on a grounder?  Gameday has his double then Correa FC 4-2.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 16, 2018, 06:36:14 am
Why the hell did Scioscia let that idiot pitch to Altuve?

There's no doubt Scioscia is kicking himself for only using 4 pitchers in a 9 inning game.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 16, 2018, 06:51:51 am
Wait a second...I went to bed...woke up in the middle of the night to check MLB app, and it showed the Astros lost 3-1.  Now I'm reading something different.  Either MLB is fucking with me or I'm really loopy when I wake up at 2:00 am
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: jbm on May 16, 2018, 07:46:58 am
Are you in Bermuda or something?

Anyways, nice to read that the offense woke up while I slept.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: doyce7 on May 16, 2018, 08:27:48 am
Did he try to score from 2nd on a grounder?  Gameday has his double then Correa FC 4-2.
Yes. He was stealing 3rd on the pitch and thought he could catch Kinsler off guard. Bad baserunning

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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on May 16, 2018, 08:46:07 am
Yes. He was stealing 3rd on the pitch and thought he could catch Kinsler off guard. Bad baserunning

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So he's a Willie Mays Hayes fan.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 16, 2018, 08:48:34 am
Yes. He was stealing 3rd on the pitch and thought he could catch Kinsler off guard. Bad baserunning

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The ball was also up the middle, and many times the second baseman will immediately throw to 1B because he has to hurry to get the batter.  It was very aggressive by Altuve, but that's not always a bad thing.  There are a couple of guys I don't mind being hyper aggressive on the bases, and Altuve is one of them.  If he's not, he doesn't score from 1B on Correa's double in the ALCS, for example.  Sometimes you get the reward, sometimes you get thrown out when the other team makes a play.  That doesn't make it bad base running.  I would be very disappointed if they never got caught stealing or never got picked off or never got nabbed trying to take an extra base.  Yes these is aggressive and then there is foolish, but I didn't mind last night's. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on May 16, 2018, 09:36:44 am
Well put and agree.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on May 16, 2018, 12:27:56 pm
Well put and agree.


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Well, Mark might want to kick me in the ass for defending it.  I keep looking over my shoulder.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: geezerdonk on May 16, 2018, 12:50:51 pm
2017 ball. Best win so far this year?
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: JimR on May 16, 2018, 12:57:45 pm
The ball was also up the middle, and many times the second baseman will immediately throw to 1B because he has to hurry to get the batter.  It was very aggressive by Altuve, but that's not always a bad thing.  There are a couple of guys I don't mind being hyper aggressive on the bases, and Altuve is one of them.  If he's not, he doesn't score from 1B on Correa's double in the ALCS, for example.  Sometimes you get the reward, sometimes you get thrown out when the other team makes a play.  That doesn't make it bad base running.  I would be very disappointed if they never got caught stealing or never got picked off or never got nabbed trying to take an extra base.  Yes these is aggressive and then there is foolish, but I didn't mind last night's.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Astros @ Angels, May 15, 2018
Post by: DVauthrin on May 16, 2018, 11:45:57 pm
We won the WS with this order:

Springer
Bregman
Altuve
Correa
Gurriel

Gonzalez, Reddick, and Gattis were moved around in 6-8 depending on who was pitching and McCann was 9th. I do not know when he switched to that 1-5, but it was productive. The question going into this year was whether Marwin’s 2017 was a career year or a breakout year, and so far he is the old Marwin: missing or taking FBs and chasing bad breaking balls.

It’s hard to argue with getting your five best hitters as many at bats as possible, especially considering that was the lineup that won the World Series.   I was simply pointing out that when the offense was vaunting much of the regular season, Reddick had plenty of at bats in front of Altuve and Marwin was often protected by Yuli in the order.   Also, after the Red Sox series, both Marwin and Reddick went into extended slumps.