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Title: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 07:23:13 pm
T1:

Springer walks
Bregman strikes out swinging
Altuve singles to CF, Springer to 2B
Correa bounces into 6-4-3 double play on the first pitch

No score.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 07:31:01 pm
Keuchel already in a battle of wills with HPU.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: austro on April 10, 2018, 07:39:53 pm
Well, after I-don't-know-how-many-years, hitters seem to be learning how to out-wait Keuchel.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 07:40:54 pm
B1: 

Dozier slow roller to 3B... Bregman with a nice barehanded play, ruled out, but Twins challenging, and overturned.  Davis was in bad position at 1B and may have cost an out.
Mauer...full count...walks, Dozier to 2B
Sano...full count...chops one over the mound, only play is to 1B...4-3...Dozier to 3B, Mauer to 2B
Escobar...infield in...sac fly to RF...Dozier scores, Mauer to 3B
Grossman doubles to LCF, Mauer scores
Morrison...full count...grounds out 6-3

2-0 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 10, 2018, 07:42:23 pm
Giving up 2 in the first must seem like a mountain to climb for this offense right now.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 07:42:27 pm
Finally.

What happened on the Bregman play? Just beat the throw or was there another issue?
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 07:43:18 pm
Well, after I-don't-know-how-many-years, hitters seem to be learning how to out-wait Keuchel.
Combination of that and being just slightly off with control.  If he wants the low strike call, he’s got to hit that spot really consistently, he just doesn’t seem to be doing that. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 07:43:22 pm
Finally.

What happened on the Bregman play? Just beat the throw or was there another issue?

Nevermind.  Saw the pbp. Thanks HH.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 07:50:23 pm
Nevermind.  Saw the pbp. Thanks HH.

Really close play.  Davis got his feet a little out of whack, was at the back of the bag, and didn't get a good stretch.  If he's one or two inches closer, it's an out and no runs score.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 07:51:47 pm
Astros just missing really good pitches to hit.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 07:54:51 pm
Jake with a RBI single!
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 07:55:29 pm
 Jake!
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 07:57:59 pm
T2:

Reddick with a leadoff walk
Marwin flies out  F8
McCann flies out F9
Davis...full count...walks, Reddick to 2B
Marisnick...3-0...3-1...singles to LF, Reddick scores, Davis to 3B
Springer...0-2...stikes out swinging

Astros leave a pair, but cut the lead in half.  2-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 08:01:52 pm
Ok.  That’s enough of ALCS George. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: austro on April 10, 2018, 08:05:58 pm
Ok.  That’s enough of ALCS George. 

Yeah, George seems to be swinging harder and harder as things get worse and worse. Hopefully the light will go on soon.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:09:05 pm
Twins with bases juiced, one out...
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on April 10, 2018, 08:10:33 pm
Dallas got none of the borderline calls. Hope the Astros get the same leeway.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 10, 2018, 08:12:08 pm
Time to get McHugh up


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Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:13:00 pm
Keuchel walks in a run...he's getting squeezed a bit, and he's hitting his spots, but just refuses to bring it up an inch...
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: austro on April 10, 2018, 08:13:10 pm
Dallas got none of the borderline calls. Hope the Astros get the same leeway.

Ump hasn't given that low, outside (to RH hitter) corner to either pitcher.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on April 10, 2018, 08:13:31 pm
Dallas is totally getting squeezed. Good God.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 08:13:44 pm
Dallas got none of the borderline calls. Hope the Astros get the same leeway.
To be fair, a lot of those borderline pitches were just outside the zone.  Keuchel has to get more of the zone. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:16:54 pm
B2:

Garver singles up the middle
Buxton...full count...grounds to 2B, perfect double play ball, but...shift on...Marwin eventually gets to it on the infield, but no play...Garver to 2B
Lamarre strikes out swinging
Dozier...3-0...walks, Garver to 3B, Buxton to 2B
Mauer...3-1...walks, Garver scores, Buxton to 3B, Dozier to 2B
Sano...0-2...1-2...2-2...strikes out on a check swing...Kalas thinks the inning is over, but it's only the second out.
Escobar...0-2...grounds into FC, Mauer out 5-4 at 2B

3-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:18:28 pm
To be fair, a lot of those borderline pitches were just outside the zone.  Keuchel has to get more of the zone.

He's pretty much putting the ball where he wants.  But he's not getting the call, and continues to throw the same pitch over and over. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on April 10, 2018, 08:21:51 pm
Dallas did well to get out of that inning. Let's see if we can get something back.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:23:34 pm
Kalas cannot keep track of the count or the outs to save his life.  Does he not write this shit down?
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: austro on April 10, 2018, 08:26:32 pm
I hope Hoyt is rested.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on April 10, 2018, 08:28:00 pm
Sit on one, Marwin!
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:28:32 pm
T3:

Bregman...3-0...3-1...walks
Altuve hammers one to 3B...Sano takes it off the chest, regroups, finds the ball and throws out Altuve by a hair, Bregman to 2B
Correa pops out F3 in foul territory
Reddick...3-1...walks
Marwin...0-2...pops out F6

Astros leave a pair...again.  3-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 08:30:19 pm
So we've turned 5 walks  and 2 hits into 1 run.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:36:08 pm
B3:

Grossman grounds out 5-3 on the first pitch
Morrison singles to CF on the first pitch, raising his season batting average to .080
Garver...0-2...1-2...2-2...strikes out looking
Buxton grounds into FC on the first pitch...Morrison out 6-4 at 2B

3-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 08:37:17 pm
Finally a zero in the bottom of a frame.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: JimR on April 10, 2018, 08:42:42 pm
Blum: “The strike zone is more like a mail slot than the actual strike zone.”
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:43:27 pm
T4:

McCann pops out F5 in foul territory
Davis singles to RF on the first pitch
Marisnick...0-1 on an attempted bunt at a pitch that would have hit him in the face...strike...ball...strikes out swinging
Springer...0-2...grounds out 5-3

3-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 08:45:32 pm
 Was the Jake bunt attempt against a shifted infield?
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:48:12 pm
Was the Jake bunt attempt against a shifted infield?

No.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2018, 08:52:03 pm
Boston just dropped a 9 spot on Yankees bot 6 and lead 14-1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 08:54:13 pm
i'd love to see the Astros drop a 9 spot on the Twins. I forgot what that looks like.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 08:56:37 pm
Baseball is alright but "fireworks to country music" holy shit!
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Jacksonian on April 10, 2018, 08:56:57 pm
i'd love to see the Astros drop a 9 spot on the Twins. I forgot what that looks like.

2017 wasn’t that long ago.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: WVastro on April 10, 2018, 08:58:27 pm
i'd love to see the Astros drop a 9 spot on the Twins. I forgot what that looks like.

No worries. The vaunting will happen. Maybe not tonight but we’ll see plenty of it.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 08:59:48 pm
B4:

Lamarre strikes out swinging
Dozier...0-2...1-2...2-2...3-2...walks
Mauer strikes out looking
Sano taps up the 3B line...Keuchel over, but whiffs at it...E1, Dozier to 2B
Escobar strikes out swinging, 2-3 on the putout

3-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: astrojo on April 10, 2018, 09:00:30 pm
2017 wasn’t that long ago.

My thoughts exactly. Plenty of baseball left.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 09:02:23 pm
Whew.

Keuchel already at 101 pitches?
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 09:06:22 pm
Wtf, Bregman?!
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: The Third Man on April 10, 2018, 09:07:59 pm
Bregman needs to get his head out of his ass.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 09:10:36 pm
T5:

Bregman slaps a single to RF
Bregman picked off of 1B
Altuve bunts for a single
Correa grounds into 6-4-3 double play

3-1 Twins
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Tom Servo on April 10, 2018, 09:10:56 pm
Correa is a double play machine.

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Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 09:11:57 pm
Correa has hit into 7 double plays in his last 11 plate appearances.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: HudsonHawk on April 10, 2018, 09:12:54 pm
Someone else grab PBP.  It's my bed time.

Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: BudGirl on April 10, 2018, 09:24:11 pm
I think McHugh is showing that he is a bad ass and a man too.  Stuck out the fan.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 09:25:00 pm
Twins bottom of 5th

Collin McHugh relieved Dallas Keuchel

R. Grossman: Strike looking, Ball, Foul, Ball, Strike swinging, Grossman struck out swinging
L. Morrison: Strike swinging, Ball, Ball, Strike swinging, Foul, Foul, Foul, Foul, Foul, Foul tip, Morrison struck out on foul tip
M. Garver: Strike looking, Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Strike looking, Garver struck out looking

End of the 5th  Twins lead 3-1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: loganck on April 10, 2018, 09:31:48 pm
I wish they hadn't pointed out that annoying yell/whoo whatever it is.  Now it's all I hear.  Annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 09:32:51 pm
Astros Top of the 6th

J. Odorizzi Pitching:

J. Reddick: Foul, Reddick grounded out to first
M. Gonzalez: Ball, Strike looking, Strike looking, Gonzalez lined out to second
B. McCann: Strike looking, Strike looking, Ball, Strike swinging, McCann struck out swinging

Middle of the 6th Astros 1 Twins 3
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: BudGirl on April 10, 2018, 09:35:00 pm
I wish they hadn't pointed out that annoying yell/whoo whatever it is.  Now it's all I hear.  Annoying as hell.

You had been able to tune that out?  Blessed. I've heard it constantly.  I think even when it's not being done.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 09:44:02 pm
Twins bottom of 6th

C. McHugh Pitching:

B. Buxton: Foul, Foul, Foul, Strike looking, Buxton struck out looking
Max Kepler hit for Ryan LaMarre
M. Kepler: Foul, Ball, Kepler flied out to deep left
B. Dozier: Ball, Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Dozier walked
J. Mauer: Ball, Ball, Mauer singled to shallow center, Dozier to second
M. Sano: Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Strike looking, Strike swinging, Sano struck out swinging

End of 6 Twins lead the Astros 3-1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 09:49:27 pm
Oye oye, vamos!
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 09:50:08 pm
Didn’t work.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 09:51:58 pm
Astros top of the 7th

Ryan Pressly relieved Jake Odorizzi

J. Davis: Davis flied out to deep right
J. Marisnick: Strike looking, Marisnick flied out to deep center
G. Springer: Springer reached on an infield single to first
A. Bregman: Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Bregman flied out to center

Middle of the 7th  Astros down 3-1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: hostros7 on April 10, 2018, 09:58:08 pm
I wish they hadn't pointed out that annoying yell/whoo whatever it is.  Now it's all I hear.  Annoying as hell.

The Astros fan equivalent of the vuvuzela.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 10:00:26 pm
Bottom of 7

Hector Rondon relieved Collin McHugh

E. Escobar: Strike looking, Foul, Escobar lined out to right
R. Grossman: Foul, Foul, Ball, Foul, Strike looking, Grossman struck out looking
L. Morrison: Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Morrison grounded out to pitcher

End of the 7th  3-1 Twins over Astros
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on April 10, 2018, 10:08:44 pm
Well it ain't happening tonight.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: jbm on April 10, 2018, 10:14:13 pm
Damn fine catch there George.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 10:14:44 pm
Wow. What a play by Springer.  Probably four stars
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 10:15:20 pm
Astros top of 8

Zach Duke relieved Ryan Pressly

Eddie Rosario in left

J. Altuve:Strike looking, Foul, Foul, Ball, Altuve flied out to center
C. Correa:Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Correa grounded out to pitcher
Evan Gattis hit for Josh Reddick
E. Gattis:Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Ball, Foul, Ball, Gattis walked
M. Gonzalez:Strike looking, Gonzalez grounded out to catcher

Middle of 8 Twins 3 Astros 1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 10:21:40 pm
Twins bottom of 8

Joe Smith relieved Hector Rondon

M. Garver: Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Foul, Ball, walked
B. Buxton: Ball, Strike swinging, Buxton flied out to right
M. Kepler: Strike looking, Strike swinging, Kepler flied out to center
B. Dozier: Ball, Ball, Ball, Ball, Dozier walked, Garver to second
J. Mauer: Strike looking, Mauer singled to shallow left, Garver scored, Dozier to third
M. Sano: Foul, Strike swinging, Foul, Strike swinging, Sano struck out swinging

End of the 8th now 4-1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 10:25:27 pm
Excuse me, Sir, but your hat’s on crooked. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: LonghornCDR on April 10, 2018, 10:31:39 pm
HPU doesn’t call the high strike until he’s ready to go home. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on April 10, 2018, 10:35:40 pm
Astros top of 9

Fernando Rodney relieved Zach Duke

B. McCann: Strike looking, Strike looking, Ball, Strike looking, McCann struck out looking
J. Davis: Strike looking, Foul, Foul, Davis singled to right
J. Marisnick: Ball, Ball, Strike looking, Foul, Ball, Marisnick reached on fielder's choice to second, Davis out at second
G. Springer: Foul, Strike looking, Marisnick to second on fielder's indifference, Ball, Foul, Springer flied out to center

Final, Astros lose to Twins 4-1
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: JimR on April 11, 2018, 06:24:16 am
Last night may have been the tightest strike zone for Keuchel I have ever seen. I am amazed he did not explode and get tossed.

I know “it is early,” yada yada, but the strikeout graphic pointed out vividly what is wrong with the lineup in the early going.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: juliogotay on April 11, 2018, 10:28:45 am
*For the third time in five games the Astros were held without an extra-base hit and went 1x6 w/RISP. Carlos Correa was 0x4 with 2 GIDPs.
Title: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on April 11, 2018, 10:39:20 am
Last night may have been the tightest strike zone for Keuchel I have ever seen. I am amazed he did not explode and get tossed.

I know “it is early,” yada yada, but the strikeout graphic pointed out vividly what is wrong with the lineup in the early going.
Agree Jim. In the first inning Dallas’ first pitch to Mauer was PERFECT! It was a pitch that as a hitter I would want thrown to me, and the HPU called it a ball. Dallas did ask where it was and I can’t believe after the way things went that he held his cool.

The strikeout graphic you mentioned was enlightening to say the least. What troubles me so much is that the issues are pretty much team wide. Too many fastballs are being taken early in the count to fall behind and then they chase spin. It’s almost like there has been a philosophical change the team has made towards hitting, but I’m sure that isn’t the case. Opposing teams are attacking us differently and that is probably the root of all of this. I just know that with the possible exception of Reddick, no one looks comfortable at the plate. Our batters are ducking out of the way from breaking balls and letting fastballs go by and immediately turn and look at the ump like a little leaguer in hopes he doesn’t call it a strike. Not time to panic yet but it is damn frustrating to watch.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: JimR on April 11, 2018, 10:42:10 am
Part of me is not displeased with Keuchel’s early struggles. Maybe now he will STFU and pitch.
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: Jacksonian on April 11, 2018, 11:04:22 am
*For the third time in five games the Astros were held without an extra-base hit and went 1x6 w/RISP. Carlos Correa was 0x4 with 2 GIDPs.

Trying to pull everything?
Title: Re: Astros @ Twins, April 10, 2018
Post by: juliogotay on April 11, 2018, 11:11:14 am
Last night may have been the tightest strike zone for Keuchel I have ever seen. I am amazed he did not explode and get tossed.

I know “it is early,” yada yada, but the strikeout graphic pointed out vividly what is wrong with the lineup in the early going.

I thought Keuchel showed remarkable restraint last night and was surprised the ump didn't have a wider zone due to the weather. A hurry-up and get the hell outta here approach.