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Title: McHugh
Post by: MusicMan on February 10, 2018, 10:44:38 am
Rosenthal says that McHugh has drawn trade interest for teams that miss out on FAs like Cobb or Lynn.

The Phillies are looking for a veteran pitcher. Any chance they’d part with Jorge Alfaro for him?


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Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Jacksonian on February 10, 2018, 11:12:24 am
Rosenthal says that McHugh has drawn trade interest for teams that miss out on FAs like Cobb or Lynn.

The Phillies are looking for a veteran pitcher. Any chance they’d part with Jorge Alfaro for him?


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Considering how injury prone both McCullers and Morton are, I’m not convinced they are going to deal McHugh.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: JimR on February 10, 2018, 12:02:33 pm
Considering how injury prone both McCullers and Morton are, I’m not convinced they are going to deal McHugh.

I think they will if Luhnow can get what he wants for him. Martes should some time soon have his chance to be what they hope he will be or else he should be traded. McHugh is nice Insurance, but I cannot imagine he is happy about being the 6th starter insurance policy.

ETA: which team has a LH hitting OF we would like to have?
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: toddthebod on February 10, 2018, 11:26:30 pm
The Phillies are looking for a starter as are the Brewers.

Both teams have decent prospects if the Astros want to trade McHugh.

I don’t think that any team looking for a pitcher like McHugh is going to be trading a player off of the ML roster.

Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: NeilT on February 11, 2018, 07:05:58 am
Considering how injury prone both McCullers and Morton are, I’m not convinced they are going to deal McHugh.

Peacock's there.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: TerryPuhl21 on February 11, 2018, 08:34:35 am
Peacock's there.
True, but I worry about Peacock and Morton. It has been a while since either of them have pitched as deep into the calendar as they did last year. At least with Keuchel, LMJ and McHugh they spent large portions of last season on the DL. They should be fresh in spring training. I think Peacock and Morton will be watched like a hawk.

I’m torn over the idea of moving McHugh. I love what he’s done as a member of this team. Look at his record as Astros pitcher. You can probably count on two hands the number of pitchers with records that good over the same span. I keep reading that the brass fully expects Whitley in the show this year. It is going to be awful crowded if that is the case. He may have to be moved eventually to make room. It may be possible to get more for him later in the year.


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Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: toddthebod on February 11, 2018, 12:15:11 pm
Apparently, its the Twins and Orioles who are interested.

https://www.mlb.com/news/trade-rumor-about-jake-odorizzi-collin-mchugh/c-266104652
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: JimR on February 15, 2018, 01:19:49 pm
Orioles signed Cashner. Maybe they are out of the McHugh derby.

auotocorrect butchered this.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: toddthebod on February 15, 2018, 03:05:55 pm
They need more than 1 starting pitcher. 

Happy about the Cashner signing.  The Yankmees and Red Sox play the Orioles 19 times.  And it would suck if they just rolled all over the Orioles.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Bench on February 15, 2018, 03:30:56 pm
McHugh won his arbitration hearing.  I liked this comment:  "It's not always a comfortable process," McHugh said Thursday prior to finding out the results of his hearing. "That's kind of built into the idea of it, but it's an important privilege that players have negotiated, and I feel honored to be able to go through it as a second-year [arbitration] player."
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: JimR on February 15, 2018, 03:33:27 pm
McHugh won his arbitration hearing.  I liked this comment:  "It's not always a comfortable process," McHugh said Thursday prior to finding out the results of his hearing. "That's kind of built into the idea of it, but it's an important privilege that players have negotiated, and I feel honored to be able to go through it as a second-year [arbitration] player."

Read Stoman’s comments today about his hearing. Shows why avoiding them is best.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: doyce7 on February 15, 2018, 03:50:26 pm
Read Stoman’s comments today about his hearing. Shows why avoiding them is best.
In most cases it does far more damage than the (relatively) small amount you might save

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Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Bench on February 15, 2018, 04:05:05 pm
Read Stoman’s comments today about his hearing. Shows why avoiding them is best.

I saw that and thought McHugh's comments were an interesting contrast.  Especially given that McHugh's comments came before he found out the result. 



Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: JimR on February 15, 2018, 05:08:33 pm
I saw that and thought McHugh's comments were an interesting contrast.  Especially given that McHugh's comments came before he found out the result.

He seems to be a very thoughtful, classy guy.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: chuck on February 15, 2018, 06:51:12 pm
He does strike me as a very thoughtful guy. He almost immediately became one of my favorite players on the team for any number of reasons and I am hoping that he sticks around this year.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: juliogotay on February 15, 2018, 11:38:33 pm
He does strike me as a very thoughtful guy. He almost immediately became one of my favorite players on the team for any number of reasons and I am hoping that he sticks around this year.

Me too. Not sure it is best for him though.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: JimR on February 16, 2018, 07:08:49 am
Me too. Not sure it is best for him though.

This is where I am also. I, as does chuck, like him a lot, and he is great to have around in case one of the starters goes down. He was a #2 starter on a playoff team not too long ago. My guess is, however, he is/will be frustrated by a role of middle relief/starter-in-waiting, and although he likely does not want to leave the Astros, he also likely would welcome being an important part of another team’s rotation. This will be interesting to watch how it plays out.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Waldo on February 16, 2018, 08:00:29 am
He seems to be a very thoughtful, classy guy.

He hasn't posted on it in a while, but he does have a blog (http://www.adayolderadaywiser.com/) that has some pretty thoughtful stuff on it.  In particular, he talks about dealing with his sense of failure after being traded or cut in the past.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Jacksonian on February 16, 2018, 08:29:02 am
This is where I am also. I, as does chuck, like him a lot, and he is great to have around in case one of the starters goes down. He was a #2 starter on a playoff team not too long ago. My guess is, however, he is/will be frustrated by a role of middle relief/starter-in-waiting, and although he likely does not want to leave the Astros, he also likely would welcome being an important part of another team’s rotation. This will be interesting to watch how it plays out.

And yet it is a near certainty that McCullers, Morton, and likely Keuchel will spend, collectively, a significant amount of time on the disabled list.  A guy in McHugh's likely position could still pile up 120-150 innings this season.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Reuben on February 16, 2018, 08:50:30 am
This is where I am also. I, as does chuck, like him a lot, and he is great to have around in case one of the starters goes down. He was a #2 starter on a playoff team not too long ago. My guess is, however, he is/will be frustrated by a role of middle relief/starter-in-waiting, and although he likely does not want to leave the Astros, he also likely would welcome being an important part of another team’s rotation. This will be interesting to watch how it plays out.
I feel the same way.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: juliogotay on February 16, 2018, 08:56:32 am
I feel the same way.

I felt a little bad for Collin last year sitting and watching from the dugout as the team he joined when they were at their absolute low-point were doing so well and having so much success. At least publicly, he never expressed any bitterness or challenges to management. He's always been a classy guy.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Bench on February 16, 2018, 09:02:58 am
During and after Harvey McHugh basically took on the role of team spokesperson.  His comments about the team's connection with the community, how the team can help, and how the team was being affected were all really insightful and heart warming. 

I echo everyone else's sentiment.  He's a great guy, and a great asset for the Astros.  But his current role might not be his highest and best use for him personally, especially given the fleeting nature of a professional athlete's career.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: juliogotay on February 16, 2018, 09:11:53 am
Maybe not the best place to put this post but Gerrit Cole (well, he's one reason McHugh isn't in the rotation) says this about his brief time in Houston: It's a special vibe here. The hellos are genuine. The hugs are genuine. It's not like you can't get that on other clubs, but you can just see it and feel it here. When we get in the room and have a meeting, the manager is not walking around the room preaching to everybody. Everybody is kind of sitting down, the same level. There's an atmosphere that just fosters that unselfishness, which ultimately is what separates you in meaningful games.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/the-killer-move-that-could-put-astros-in-rare-world-series-air/

BTW, just saw where Justice said on MLB tv that the Yankees only have one starting pitcher that could crack the Astros rotation (Severino).
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: JimR on February 16, 2018, 09:53:34 am
And yet it is a near certainty that McCullers, Morton, and likely Keuchel will spend, collectively, a significant amount of time on the disabled list.  A guy in McHugh's likely position could still pile up 120-150 innings this season.

I do not disagree with this, but it does not make it easier on McHugh.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Jacksonian on February 16, 2018, 10:36:19 am


BTW, just saw where Justice said on MLB tv that the Yankees only have one starting pitcher that could crack the Astros rotation (Severino).

I would start Tanaka over McCullers.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: BUWebguy on February 16, 2018, 10:43:05 am
McHugh was one of the first players AJ Hinch mentioned earlier this offseason on AstroLine when talking about team leaders and guys who made this clubhouse special.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Waldo on February 16, 2018, 10:44:14 am
I would start Tanaka over McCullers.

Only because you wouldn't be starting Tanaka against the Astros.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: Lefty on February 18, 2018, 12:32:18 am
ETA: which team has a LH hitting OF we would like to have?
Corey Dickerson just got DFA'd by the Rays.
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: toddthebod on February 18, 2018, 07:32:45 am
All-Star last season with 27 HRs last season, a decent batting average, and relatively cheap.  On the other hand, his second half numbers were truly awful .241/.282/.408 and he strikes out a ton.  Still hard to believe that the Rays are simply letting him go. 

 
Title: Re: McHugh
Post by: MusicMan on February 18, 2018, 03:24:36 pm
All-Star last season with 27 HRs last season, a decent batting average, and relatively cheap.  On the other hand, his second half numbers were truly awful .241/.282/.408 and he strikes out a ton.  Still hard to believe that the Rays are simply letting him go. 

 

DFA could be a prelude to a trade. Rays got active in a hurry.


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