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Title: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 26, 2017, 09:47:13 am
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-manager-joe-girardi-reportedly-agree-to-part-ways-after-10-seasons/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-manager-joe-girardi-reportedly-agree-to-part-ways-after-10-seasons/)

Hope it's what he really wants rather than being pushed out.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 09:49:45 am
Hope it's what he really wants rather than being pushed out.

How were their TV ratings?
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: juliogotay on October 26, 2017, 09:51:06 am
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-manager-joe-girardi-reportedly-agree-to-part-ways-after-10-seasons/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-manager-joe-girardi-reportedly-agree-to-part-ways-after-10-seasons/)

Hope it's what he really wants rather than being pushed out.

I got a kick out of the "Are Astros mocking Puig" photo.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 26, 2017, 09:57:26 am
How were their TV ratings?

Ha.   Maybe he didn't score well with focus groups.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 26, 2017, 09:59:15 am
Farrell, then Girardi.
Roberts has extra pressure to win this series.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 26, 2017, 10:03:15 am
Farrell, then Girardi.
Roberts has extra pressure to win this series.

Manager-killers.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 26, 2017, 10:04:43 am
I'd take him as a replacement for Cora.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 26, 2017, 10:06:50 am
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-manager-joe-girardi-reportedly-agree-to-part-ways-after-10-seasons/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-manager-joe-girardi-reportedly-agree-to-part-ways-after-10-seasons/)

Hope it's what he really wants rather than being pushed out.

It sounds like it was the Yankmees' call. What a foolish error. There's no one available who is a better manager in my opinion than Joe Girardi.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: moriartp on October 26, 2017, 10:13:21 am
It sounds like it was the Yankmees' call. What a foolish error. There's no one available who is a better manager in my opinion than Joe Girardi.
I think that's probably right—especially after he led the team on a really improbable playoff run this year—what are the odds you'll find someone better for that clubhouse? It reeks of bad ownership.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: JimR on October 26, 2017, 10:34:41 am
He said after Game 7 he wanted to return. Pushed out.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: juliogotay on October 26, 2017, 10:38:30 am
He said after Game 7 he wanted to return. Pushed out.

Seems crazy to me. He'll manage again.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on October 26, 2017, 10:55:38 am
 So on the one hand I hate to see good people misused by bad ownership.

On the other hand I love to see the Yankees with bad ownership.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: chuck on October 26, 2017, 10:56:47 am
I guess these teams think that it's easy to find good to very good managers.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 26, 2017, 10:59:47 am
I'm no Girardi fan but that's insane.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Bench on October 26, 2017, 11:09:50 am
He said after Game 7 he wanted to return. Pushed out.

Bizarre.  Especially considering the year they had and that they are expecting to put together a good run with this team.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: geezerdonk on October 26, 2017, 11:29:25 am
I think that Brad "dark satanic" Mills is available.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 26, 2017, 12:58:28 pm
I think that Brad "dark satanic" Mills is available.
It is going to be a different Brad.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: BUWebguy on October 26, 2017, 01:28:25 pm
I think that's probably right—especially after he led the team on a really improbable playoff run this year—what are the odds you'll find someone better for that clubhouse? It reeks of bad ownership.

Buster Olney:
"Sources: The recommendation of Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman to owner Hal Steinbrenner was to change managers. ... The Astros’ A.J. Hinch could be a model for NYY next manager: Fluent in analytics, easy-going personality, open-minded, comfortable w/media."

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923567796956491776
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923587985638957062
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Fredia on October 26, 2017, 01:30:44 pm
it would kill my soul if Hinch ever became a yankee
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 26, 2017, 01:31:30 pm
Buster Olney:
"Sources: The recommendation of Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman to owner Hal Steinbrenner was to change managers. ... The Astros’ A.J. Hinch could be a model for NYY next manager: Fluent in analytics, easy-going personality, open-minded, comfortable w/media."

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923567796956491776
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923587985638957062


Hands off, fucksticks.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: juliogotay on October 26, 2017, 01:38:18 pm
MLB Network is reporting that a leading candidate may be Al Pedrique who is apparently managing in the MiL for NYY. He has a relationship with some of their young players like Judge. That doesn't mean it is anything more than speculation on some reporter.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 01:41:37 pm
it would kill my soul if Hinch ever became a yankee

His too.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 01:42:43 pm
Buster Olney:
"Sources: The recommendation of Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman to owner Hal Steinbrenner was to change managers. ... The Astros’ A.J. Hinch could be a model for NYY next manager: Fluent in analytics, easy-going personality, open-minded, comfortable w/media."

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923567796956491776
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923587985638957062


Yeah, so they absolutely want Hinch, because he just beat their asses.

And people wonder why everyone hates the Yankees.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: NeilT on October 26, 2017, 02:01:37 pm

Yeah, so they absolutely want Hinch, because he just beat their asses.

And people wonder why everyone hates the Yankees.

I guess that whole pouring beer on his family was a recruiting ploy. 
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 26, 2017, 02:22:52 pm
Buster Olney:
"Sources: The recommendation of Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman to owner Hal Steinbrenner was to change managers. ... The Astros’ A.J. Hinch could be a model for NYY next manager: Fluent in analytics, easy-going personality, open-minded, comfortable w/media."

https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923567796956491776
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/923587985638957062

Sounds like the guy they want is Joe Girardi.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 02:30:52 pm
I guess that whole pouring beer on his family was a recruiting ploy.

Haha!  Yes, good point.  How to win friends and influence people.

Also, sacking the manager for only making it to the ALCS is not particularly warm and fuzzy, either. 
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Jacksonian on October 26, 2017, 02:33:24 pm
Sounds like the guy they want is Joe Girardi.

The want the Joe Girardi who never loses in the post-season.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Bench on October 26, 2017, 02:39:27 pm
The want the Joe Girardi who never loses in the post-season.

Haha!  Yes, good point.  How to win friends and influence people.

Also, sacking the manager for only making it to the ALCS is not particularly warm and fuzzy, either.

It's got to be more than this.  Nobody expected the Yankees to make the playoffs at all, much less win a wild card game, beat a 102 win team and take a 101 win team to game 7 of the ALCS. 
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Jacksonian on October 26, 2017, 02:50:11 pm
It's got to be more than this.  Nobody expected the Yankees to make the playoffs at all, much less win a wild card game, beat a 102 win team and take a 101 win team to game 7 of the ALCS.

It seems to me what they saw was a team that couldn't win a game in Houston.  I believe that their brass believes after what happened in New York they should have.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 02:56:59 pm
It seems to me what they saw was a team that couldn't win a game in Houston.  I believe that their brass believes after what happened in New York they should have.

I didn't see them making any mistakes - even in the two,2-1 games.  They just got beaten by a better team (who had home field advantage and used it).
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: homer on October 26, 2017, 03:01:28 pm
The missed replay/challenge call against the Indians, and his immediate response would likely be a factor. If they had lost that series, there would be no question it was the cause.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Mr. Appropriate on October 26, 2017, 03:03:02 pm
I guess that whole pouring beer on his family was a recruiting ploy.

And here I was upset at Yankee fan. I didn't see NY firing their  manager and going after Hinch. Now I appreciate yankee fan making it extra hard for Hinch to talk his family into letting him take the NY offer.  funny world. Really hope Cora is the only guy that the other teams hire away. Hope Hinch and Luhnow are here for a long time.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: VirtualBob on October 26, 2017, 03:08:01 pm
So on the one hand I hate to see good people misused by bad ownership.

On the other hand I love to see the Yankees with bad ownership.
There's pretty much no way to fill in that blank that I would not agree with.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: juliogotay on October 26, 2017, 03:14:40 pm
And here I was upset at Yankee fan. I didn't see NY firing their  manager and going after Hinch. Now I appreciate yankee fan making it extra hard for Hinch to talk his family into letting him take the NY offer.  funny world. Really hope Cora is the only guy that the other teams hire away. Hope Hinch and Luhnow are here for a long time.

I envision Hinch managing another couple of years and moving into a front office position. Hopefully with the Astros.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: David in Jackson on October 26, 2017, 03:43:18 pm
The Yankees lost in Game Seven of the ALCS to a better team after coming back from 0-2 to beat a better team in the ALDS.  Hard to blame a manager for that.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 26, 2017, 03:54:49 pm
I envision Hinch managing another couple of years and moving into a front office position. Hopefully with the Astros.

I disagree. Hinch is a young man. He's here as long as Luhnow is here at least.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Mr. Appropriate on October 26, 2017, 03:57:40 pm
I envision Hinch managing another couple of years and moving into a front office position. Hopefully with the Astros.
No doubt that Hinch can score a front office job if that's the goal. Seems like a guy who is doing the job he wants most, though it may lack something in the way of job security.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 26, 2017, 03:58:57 pm
Where are y'all seeing that Hinch is being considered for the Yankee job?  Only thing I have seen is Buster saying they want someone like Hinch, not that they are going after Hinch.   Hinch is under contract thru 2018.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: BlownRanger on October 26, 2017, 04:01:27 pm
I disagree. Hinch is a young man. He's here as long as Luhnow is here at least.

You can never make that kind of assumption about MLB managers.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 04:11:59 pm
Where are y'all seeing that Hinch is being considered for the Yankee job?  Only thing I have seen is Buster saying they want someone like Hinch, not that they are going after Hinch.   Hinch is under contract thru 2018.

Just don't trust those fuckers.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: BizidyDizidy on October 26, 2017, 04:21:40 pm
Maybe they like Hinch's fire:

https://www.tmz.com/2017/10/26/astros-a-j-hinch-hotel-bar-fight-police/
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: geezerdonk on October 26, 2017, 04:21:52 pm
If Girardi had been catching in the ALCS, he might still be managing.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 04:26:57 pm
Maybe they like Hinch's fire:

https://www.tmz.com/2017/10/26/astros-a-j-hinch-hotel-bar-fight-police/

If true, what classless pricks. 
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: MusicMan on October 26, 2017, 04:32:19 pm
If true, what classless pricks.

They were arguing for Pitt the Elder over Lord Palmerston.


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Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2017, 04:33:01 pm
They were arguing for Pitt the Elder over Lord Palmerston.

Exactly.  Classless pricks!

(dilly dilly)
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on November 17, 2017, 06:30:28 am
Steinbrenner says Giardi would have been gone even if they'd won the WS:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hal-steinbrenner-would-have-fired-joe-girardi-even-if-he-won-world-series/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hal-steinbrenner-would-have-fired-joe-girardi-even-if-he-won-world-series/)
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: HudsonHawk on November 17, 2017, 08:49:43 am
I don't get why everyone keeps saying the Yankees were just babies.

Castro is 27
Gregorius is 27
Headley is 33
Gardner is 33
Ellbury is 33
Holliday is 38
Hicks is 27
Frazier is 31
Sabathia is 36
Pineda is 28
Chapman is 29
Betances is 29

Yes, they have a couple of young players, all teams do.  But this idea that they were just a bunch of rookies who took the league by storm and surprise is just bizarre. 
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Jacksonian on November 17, 2017, 08:53:06 am
I don't get why everyone keeps saying the Yankees were just babies.

Castro is 27
Gregorius is 27
Headley is 33
Gardner is 33
Ellbury is 33
Holliday is 38
Hicks is 27
Frazier is 31
Sabathia is 36
Pineda is 28
Chapman is 29
Betances is 29

Yes, they have a couple of young players, all teams do.  But this idea that they were just a bunch of rookies who took the league by storm and surprise is just bizarre.

Because Judge is 25, and that's all we're going to talk about.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: BlownRanger on November 17, 2017, 09:25:24 am
Steinbrenner says Giardi would have been gone even if they'd won the WS:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hal-steinbrenner-would-have-fired-joe-girardi-even-if-he-won-world-series/ (https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hal-steinbrenner-would-have-fired-joe-girardi-even-if-he-won-world-series/)

If the Yanks had won it all, I'm pretty sure Cashman would have talked Steinbrenner out of that PR disaster.
Title: Re: Giardi, Yankees parting ways
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on November 17, 2017, 09:56:18 am
I don't get why everyone keeps saying the Yankees were just babies.

Castro is 27
Gregorius is 27
Headley is 33
Gardner is 33
Ellbury is 33
Holliday is 38
Hicks is 27
Frazier is 31
Sabathia is 36
Pineda is 28
Chapman is 29
Betances is 29

Yes, they have a couple of young players, all teams do.  But this idea that they were just a bunch of rookies who took the league by storm and surprise is just bizarre.

Thus proving that statement was a pile of horse crap.

Giardi rubbed one or both of them the wrong way. 

Here's hoping Hal is as stable a hand as his father when it comes to managers.