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Title: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 05:08:26 pm
The walk-fest continues. Keuchel just walked three in a row after a lead-off single, and the A's now lead 2-1. He's certainly not been getting any help from the ump, but damn this is frustrating.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 05:09:43 pm
Now he "hits" a guy by grazing his toe. This really sucks.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:10:54 pm
Odd things happen at The Mausoleum.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:12:40 pm
20 BBs this series by Astros.

Did you think Altuve was going to catch that?
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: doyce7 on September 10, 2017, 05:12:44 pm
The walk-fest continues. Keuchel just walked three in a row after a lead-off single, and the A's now lead 2-1. He's certainly not been getting any help from the ump, but damn this is frustrating.
He's getting squeezed but he's also REALLY nibbling

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Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:14:20 pm
He's getting squeezed but he's also REALLY nibbling

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he's nibbling and the A's are REALLY patient.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 05:16:27 pm
And he walks another. And, no, I did not think Altuve would catch that, especially given how this inning is going.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:17:09 pm
on his 41st pitch of the inning Keuchel walks in the second batter this inning. 4-1 A's.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:19:33 pm
So Martes who is not known for his pinpoint control is in. If I'm an Oakland batter I leave my bat on my shoulder.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 05:22:06 pm
A's get three runs without putting a ball in play.

Keuchel did the same fucking thing his last time out. He didn't get a call on Davis, he pouted, them crumbled.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: MusicMan on September 10, 2017, 05:22:15 pm
I am likely to throw something at my TV. Hopefully my aim is as good as our pitchers'.


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Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:25:35 pm
What we need is a good old-fashioned rally but I don't think it's in them.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Lefty on September 10, 2017, 05:27:23 pm
Fuck this whole weekend.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on September 10, 2017, 05:28:41 pm
Fuck this whole weekend.

This.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: The Third Man on September 10, 2017, 05:29:47 pm
A's get three runs without putting a ball in play.

Keuchel did the same fucking thing his last time out. He didn't get a call on Davis, he pouted, them crumbled.

Dallas has not exactly showed the kind of fortitude you would like from your staff ace.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:30:42 pm
none of them seem very interested this weekend.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: chuck on September 10, 2017, 05:31:02 pm
I am likely to throw something at my TV. Hopefully my aim is as good as our pitchers'.

Throw it quick before someone from Jacksonville slams you through the coffee table.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 05:33:06 pm
Dallas has not exactly showed the kind of fortitude you would like from your staff ace.

He's pretty much been a whiny little bitch.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 10, 2017, 05:33:16 pm
Springer with a "we've got a plane to catch" swing on strike 3.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 05:41:45 pm
Martes' philosophy:  if a guy is really late on the fastball, hang a curveball.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: doyce7 on September 10, 2017, 05:42:14 pm
Team wide don't give a shit this series. I hope aj tears this team a new asshole before they leave the ballpark

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Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 05:42:46 pm
I give up. I can't take this game anymore.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: David in Jackson on September 10, 2017, 05:48:01 pm
This weekend has really sucked. Does not inspire confidence. Walks. Errors. Pickoffs. Can anybody pitch?


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Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: doyce7 on September 10, 2017, 05:48:19 pm
Ok that's it for me. See y'all Tuesday.

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Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:17:29 pm
Wow. That at bat by Beltran was the worst I've ever seen at any level of baseball.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: chuck on September 10, 2017, 06:18:45 pm
Beltran is a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on September 10, 2017, 06:24:39 pm
Beltran is a fucking joke.

He's so done.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:32:36 pm
Gregerson with more walks and home runs, and it's now 8-2. In case anyone was wondering.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 06:33:16 pm
Fuck 100 wins. This team will be lucky to get to 90.

Way to put the Boog back into Powell.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Aussie Astro on September 10, 2017, 06:37:56 pm
Gregerson with more walks and home runs, and it's now 8-2. In case anyone was wondering.

Hard to watch, but I got up 4 o'clock so I am gonna see it through.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:39:00 pm
Sipp didn't want to be left out. 10-2
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 06:39:16 pm
This is fucking embarrassing. This is like 2013 all over again.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:40:13 pm
Lost in the shitfest on the mound is that J.D. Davis is playing 1B
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:41:05 pm
This is fucking embarrassing. This is like 2013 all over again.

And the A's are the 2013 Astros. They are TRYING to lose these games.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: The Spleen on September 10, 2017, 06:42:00 pm
An injury scare and one tough late inning loss was enough to completely break this team's composure.
How would they deal with postseason pressure?
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Lefty on September 10, 2017, 06:42:33 pm
Wow. That at bat by Beltran was the worst I've ever seen at any level of baseball.
All hyperbole considered, no, it's not.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Lefty on September 10, 2017, 06:44:13 pm
Beltran is a fucking joke.

I kept waiting, and I understand what he brings to the clubhouse, but are we supposed to wait until his magical playoff run?
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:45:44 pm
All hyperbole considered, no, it's not.

Seriously. I don't remember a worse one. Ever.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: The Spleen on September 10, 2017, 06:46:51 pm
I kept waiting, and I understand what he brings to the clubhouse, but are we supposed to wait until his magical playoff run?

The problem is that the veteran leadership part isn't working either.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:48:13 pm
Fuck Sipp works incredibly ducking slow.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Aussie Astro on September 10, 2017, 06:50:35 pm
Fuck Sipp works incredibly ducking slow.
And that is not the worst part.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: MRaup on September 10, 2017, 06:52:33 pm
Remember when Keuchel said he lost his composure after getting squeezed in the Rangers series and it would never happen again? Good times.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 06:53:56 pm
Kalas, talking about sweeps and clinching. I fucking hate that guy.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 06:56:17 pm
Finally, it's over. I hope they use the off-day to think about what the fuck they're doing.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: Aussie Astro on September 10, 2017, 06:57:23 pm
Lame
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: chuck on September 10, 2017, 07:04:29 pm
Kalas, talking about sweeps and clinching. I fucking hate that guy.

Is he discussing the Indians? The Angels? Who the hell is he talking about?
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: The Spleen on September 10, 2017, 07:08:58 pm
Kalas, talking about sweeps.

Sweep? The Angels came from behind to win today and are going to be pumped for this series, knowing that a sweep restarts the division race.
The Astros will be coming into this series longing for the sweet embrace of death.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 10, 2017, 07:18:42 pm
Sweep? The Angels came from behind to win today and are going to be pumped for this series, knowing that a sweep restarts the division race.
The Astros will be coming into this series longing for the sweet embrace of death.

The Astros need 7 more wins.  I can't seem them winning one of the last 7 in Arlington or Boston, so that means 7 of the next 13 are "must wins", and 3 of them are against the White Sox who beat them like a drum a few weeks ago.  So that's really 7 of the next 10
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: The Third Man on September 10, 2017, 08:13:45 pm
With the way this team fires scouts and parted ways with Tony Defrancesco, I would expect Hinch to be on the hot seat if they continue to play this bad.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: austro on September 10, 2017, 08:20:47 pm
I"m hopeful that -- given the way that Luhnow changed the offense over the offseason (from all homers and K's all the time to high contact rate, at least for the first 2/3 of this season) -- we'll see a big makeover of the bullpen this winter.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 11, 2017, 09:15:02 am
With the way this team fires scouts and parted ways with Tony Defrancesco, I would expect Hinch to be on the hot seat if they continue to play this bad.

When Dierker was in the broadcast booth last month as part of the 20th anniversary of the 1997 division-winning club they asked him how he got the managers' job. He said that the club had collapsed in the second half of the previous season and that tends to get managers fired.
I'm not expecting that now, nor hoping for it, but the seat could be warm if the club doesn't regain its' mojo.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: BlownRanger on September 11, 2017, 11:52:51 am
When Dierker was in the broadcast booth last month as part of the 20th anniversary of the 1997 division-winning club they asked him how he got the managers' job. He said that the club had collapsed in the second half of the previous season and that tends to get managers fired.
I'm not expecting that now, nor hoping for it, but the seat could be warm if the club doesn't regain its' mojo.

I share everyone's frustration with Hinch's lineups.  Why the hell would you rest Bregman or Reddick when the series is surrounded by off-days?

But I'm a lot more frustrated with Strom.  I assume he's the guy that has dictated "I don't want to see any 0-2 or 1-2 pitch anywhere near the strike zone!".  I'm sick of seeing Astros pitchers get ahead and then nibble their way to 3-2.  (Actually, the huge majority of 0-2 and 1-2 pitches aren't nibbles, they're in the dirt, which is always fun with Houston's catchers).  Seems to me this philosophy also drives up pitch counts.

I've never pitched or coached pitchers, but I'm venting anyway.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: HudsonHawk on September 11, 2017, 01:48:52 pm
I share everyone's frustration with Hinch's lineups.  Why the hell would you rest Bregman or Reddick when the series is surrounded by off-days?

Both Reddick and Bregman played three games in three days, Bregman playing both ends of the double header.  More importantly, neither of them pitched.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: juliogotay on September 11, 2017, 04:08:52 pm
I share everyone's frustration with Hinch's lineups.  Why the hell would you rest Bregman or Reddick when the series is surrounded by off-days?

But I'm a lot more frustrated with Strom.  I assume he's the guy that has dictated "I don't want to see any 0-2 or 1-2 pitch anywhere near the strike zone!".  I'm sick of seeing Astros pitchers get ahead and then nibble their way to 3-2.  (Actually, the huge majority of 0-2 and 1-2 pitches aren't nibbles, they're in the dirt, which is always fun with Houston's catchers).  Seems to me this philosophy also drives up pitch counts.

I've never pitched or coached pitchers, but I'm venting anyway.

It will be interesting to see how Verlander approaches 0-2 counts. I would not think they would tell him "this is how we do it".
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: BlownRanger on September 12, 2017, 09:05:34 am
It will be interesting to see how Verlander approaches 0-2 counts. I would not think they would tell him "this is how we do it".

Indeed, his first start was a welcome change from the "get ahead, then waste a few pitches" approach.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: JimR on September 12, 2017, 10:11:20 am
I do not believe in wasting an 0-2 pitch by throwing one so bad no one would chase it, but I HATE 0-2 base hits. See Powell, Boog leading off the 9th in the Game That Ruined The Weekend.
Title: Re: Astros @ A's, 9/10/17
Post by: BlownRanger on September 12, 2017, 11:11:02 am
I do not believe in wasting an 0-2 pitch by throwing one so bad no one would chase it, but I HATE 0-2 base hits. See Powell, Boog leading off the 9th in the Game That Ruined The Weekend.

Agreed, the old "don't give him anything to hit, but don't walk him" joke applies, and it's a fine line to traverse, but in my layman's opinion things have gotten ridiculous with the Astros.  Nearly every 0-2 or 1-2 pitch is in the dirt and a foot outside, pitches that nobody is going to chase (except the poor catcher every now and then).  Truly "wasted" pitches that do nothing but drive up the pitch count.

Peacock actually snuck an 0-2 pitch over the outside corner for a called strikeout during his initial flurry of Ks on Saturday.  The A's hitter seemed amazed that he would do that.