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Title: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 01:14:46 pm
2 outs in the top of the first so far, nobody on base.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 01:18:43 pm
Khris Davis takes strike three right on the knees but it's inexplicably called a ball. Then a walk.

2 on with 2 outs, both on walks.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 01:19:35 pm
Khris Davis takes strike three right on the knees but it's inexplicably called a ball. Then a walk.

2 on with 2 outs, both on walks.

Healy rolls 5-3 to end the inning. I can't do pbp currently, so somebody will have to pick it up for a few innings if it's needed.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:19:46 pm
T1:

Joyce grounds out 4-3
Barreto strikes out swinging
Lowrie walks
Davis walks
Healy grounds out 5-3

No score
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:20:20 pm
Healy rolls 5-3 to end the inning. I can't do pbp currently, so somebody will have to pick it up for a few innings if it's needed.

I'll do what I can
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:25:51 pm
Reddick robbed of a HR as Joyce leaps over the wall and snatches it from the first row.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:27:04 pm
B1:

Springer grounds out 5-3
Reddick...full up...hits a drive to deep right feel...Joyce leaps and reaches over the stands to rob a home run from the first row
Altuve hits a ball off the ground for a little looping liner right at 2B

No score
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 01:27:19 pm
Reddick robbed of a HR as Joyce leaps over the wall and snatches it from the first row.

Reddick clearly choked on that swing.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 01:28:24 pm
Altuve chases more bad pitches than the rest of the lineup put together.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:31:00 pm
Altuve chases more bad pitches than the rest of the lineup put together.

Sometimes I don't understand why he ever sees a strike
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:31:52 pm
Peacock with his third walk in the first seven batters.  This was his issue last time out
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:35:13 pm
T2:

Olson flies out F9
Phegley walks
Brugman strikes out swinging
Rosales strikes out swinging

0-0
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:42:39 pm
B2:

Correa grounds out 6-3 on the first pitch
Beltran flies out F8
Gattis grounds out 6-3

Scoreless through two
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 01:43:05 pm
Astros doing a bang up job trying to pull outside pitches so far today.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 01:53:16 pm
T3:

Joyce...3-2...strikes out swinging
Barreto...3-0...3-1...walks
Lowrie flies out F8 at the wall in LCF
Davis strikes out swinging

0-0
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:02:20 pm
Bregman got robbed.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:02:24 pm
B3:

Marwin grounds out 4-3
Bregman lines out to 3B
Marisnick taps in front of the plate, out 2-3

No score
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: das on June 29, 2017, 02:03:15 pm
Reddick robbed of a HR as Joyce leaps over the wall and snatches it from the first row.

Reddick is so un-clutch.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: das on June 29, 2017, 02:04:41 pm
Peacock with his third walk in the first seven batters.  This was his issue last time out
I only see numbers via gameday.  Does he look rusty?  The K's are just as noteworthy as the BB's but I have no way to assess since I am not watching.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:06:02 pm
Healy with the game's first knock...a leadoff gork to shallow RF in the fourth
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:07:48 pm
I only see numbers via gameday.  Does he look rusty?  The K's are just as noteworthy as the BB's but I have no way to assess since I am not watching.

He's not been all over the place, and there have been some close pitches he didn't get.  But he's not been pounding the zone either.  He's thrown a lot of pitches, so look for another long day for the pen
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 02:08:18 pm
I only see numbers via gameday.  Does he look rusty?  The K's are just as noteworthy as the BB's but I have no way to assess since I am not watching.


Getting squeezed some
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:11:32 pm
Another walk loads the bases with nobody out for the A's...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:16:03 pm
Peacock finally wears down Brugman.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:17:34 pm
A's get a run on a bases loaded FC...two on, two out...1-0
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:20:14 pm
Another walk loads the bases again...two out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:21:18 pm
Peacock acts like he prefers the bases loaded.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:22:00 pm
T4:

Healy with a flair to RF for the game's first hit
Olson lines right at Marwin, who throws his glove up, but it bounces off...Healy to 2B.  Ball was smoked pretty good
Phegley...2-0...2-1...2-2...full count...walks, Healy to 3B, Olson to 2B
Brugman...quickly 0-2...1-2...fouling off pitches...finally strikes out swinging...but a 9-pitch at bat
Rosales grounds into FC in the hole at SS...Olson out 6-5 at 3B, Healy scores, Phegley to 2B
Joyce...3-2...walks, Phegley to 3B, Rosales to 2B
Barreto flies out F9

So Peacock manages to avoid a crooked number, but threw a ton of pitches.  Likely done for the day.

A's up 1-0
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 02:22:31 pm
Good escape
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:24:58 pm
Only getting 1 run out of that was anti-clutch of them.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:27:28 pm
Astros get their first baserunner...Reddick with a 1-out double
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:28:06 pm
Reddick gets another extra-base hit with no one on.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 02:29:14 pm
Reddick gets another extra-base hit with no one on.

Bottom of the 4th is apparently not considered high leverage.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 29, 2017, 02:29:54 pm
Bottom of the 4th is apparently not considered high leverage.

With nobody on? Correct.


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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:30:26 pm
Altuve trying to pull everything
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 02:30:52 pm
Reddick gets another extra-base hit with no one on.

What is the point of this?
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:33:42 pm
What is the point of this?
Just goofing on that article about Reddick some egghead wrote.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:34:10 pm
woohoo!!!!
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 29, 2017, 02:34:13 pm
What is the point of this?

I mistakenly thought something would be interesting. I was wrong, because there were numbers involved.


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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:34:19 pm
Correa!!!

2-run tater gives the Astros a 2-1 lead
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BizidyDizidy on June 29, 2017, 02:35:13 pm
Goddamn is he overrated.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: astrojo on June 29, 2017, 02:35:38 pm
Thank you, Correa! Friends don't leave friends stranded at third.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:35:50 pm
B4:

Springer grounds out 3-1
Reddick doubles down LF line...first Astro to reach base
Altuve flies out F8, Reddick moves to 3B
Correa...3-0...3-1...full count...homers to RCF, Reddick scores
Beltran taps up the 1B line...out 1-3

But Astros take a 2-1 lead
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: das on June 29, 2017, 02:36:13 pm

Getting squeezed some

Thanks @jimr and @hh
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:37:00 pm
Goddamn is he overrated.

Goddamn you are an insufferable prick
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BizidyDizidy on June 29, 2017, 02:37:23 pm
Goddamn you are an insufferable prick

I'm glad you think so.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:37:52 pm
I mistakenly thought something would be interesting. I was wrong, because there were numbers involved.


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I thought it was interesting.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:39:25 pm
I'm glad you think so.

It's what you do.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Lefty on June 29, 2017, 02:41:09 pm
I thought it was interesting.

Haven't had a chance to read it yet, but I'm guessing the gist is that he's the anti-Bobby Abreau.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:44:49 pm
Peacock on a very short leash, gets the first two batters.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:46:28 pm
T5:

Lowrie lines out to LF
Davis strikes out swinging
Healy pops out F4

2-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 02:46:39 pm
Good job
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:47:33 pm
Good job

Glad he was able to get through five.  I assume that's it for him for sure now.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: das on June 29, 2017, 02:47:46 pm
Well done to Peacock to labor thru 5.  Good day's work after a layoff.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 02:48:16 pm
A couple of rough innings but overall through the five innings, Peacock did his job well.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: das on June 29, 2017, 02:48:40 pm
Glad he was able to get through five.  I assume that's it for him for sure now.

I should think so after 106 pitches.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Lefty on June 29, 2017, 02:50:05 pm
I should think so after 106 pitches.

Devo for the 6th.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:53:53 pm
Astros start off their half of the 5th with two singles...two on, nobody out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:55:39 pm
Walk loads the bases for Handsome Jake...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 02:56:08 pm
Devo for the 6th.

and 7th, I hope
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 02:59:30 pm
Marisnik got a SUPER hittable 3-2 slider and swung ahead of it.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 02:59:34 pm
Marisnick strikes out...Springer up with the bases juiced, one out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:00:10 pm
B5:

Gattis with a sharp single to LF
Marwin lines a single to RF, Gattis to 2B
Bregman...3-0...3-1...walks, Gattis to 3B, Marwin to 2B
Marisnick strikes out swinging
Springer lines into 6-4 double play

Thud

2-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 03:00:18 pm
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. Fucking awful baserunning strikes again.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 03:07:43 pm
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT. Fucking awful baserunning strikes again.
Marwin knew he blew that one.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 03:09:20 pm
Marwin knew he blew that one.

Yup. You could tell just by the look on his face.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:10:42 pm
2-out single and a walk...A's with two on, two out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:11:04 pm
T6:

Devo the Dragon in...

Olson grounds out 6-3
Phegley pops out F4 on a tweener to RCF...Altuve funs it down without Jake or George taking him out
Brugman...0-2...1-2...singles up the middle
Brugman steals 2B
Rosales...3-1...walks
Joyce taps back to the mound on the first pitch

2-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 03:14:39 pm
2-3-4 in 7th
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:16:21 pm
Reddick single..Atluve RBI double...3-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 03:16:34 pm
Reddick read that ball GREAT
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: doyce7 on June 29, 2017, 03:16:44 pm
Nobody on this team plays quite as hard as josh reddick

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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 03:18:18 pm
Nobody on this team plays quite as hard as josh reddick

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Or as smart
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:18:41 pm
Correa numero dos!!!

5-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: doyce7 on June 29, 2017, 03:18:57 pm
Oh man correa

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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 03:19:10 pm
I don't care how he is rated, he's pretty good.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: hostros7 on June 29, 2017, 03:19:45 pm
That was a jack! Correa!


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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 03:19:51 pm
Relentless
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:19:57 pm
And that chases Gossett
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:27:22 pm
B6:

Reddick singles to CF
Altuve doubles off the RCF wall, Reddick scores
Correa homers to CF, Altuve scores

That's all for Gossett...Hendriks in...

Beltran pops out F5
Gattis flies out F8
Marwin strikes out swinging

5-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BizidyDizidy on June 29, 2017, 03:27:55 pm
Whatever the fuck WAR is, the Astros currently have the #3, #5, and #13 position players (and #13 hit two HRs today that aren't included in that stat).
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 03:34:02 pm
Whatever the fuck WAR is, the Astros currently have the #3, #5, and #13 position players (and #13 hit two HRs today that aren't included in that stat).

Wallabies
Arresting
Rockettes
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:34:47 pm
T7:

Barreto strikes out swinging
Lowrie grounds to SS, but no one is there on the shift...single
Davis...3-0...3-1...3-2...strikes out swinging
Healy flies out F7

5-1 Astros at the stretch
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 29, 2017, 03:38:27 pm
Wallabies
Arresting
Rockettes

Rockettes had it coming.


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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BizidyDizidy on June 29, 2017, 03:41:34 pm
That was a very aggressive take of third base.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:42:50 pm
Astros with runners at 2B and 3B...nobody out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:44:26 pm
Bases loaded, nobody out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:45:21 pm
Sac fly from Reddick...6-1
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 03:46:09 pm
Nice job by Springer getting to second with one out.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 29, 2017, 03:47:11 pm
That was a very aggressive take of third base.

Gary Pettis says that he thought it was pretty boring.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:47:36 pm
Another lineout with the infield in...Correa intentionally walked to load the bases with two out for Beltran...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:48:50 pm
B7:

Brady in for the A's

Bregman...quickly down 0-2...1-2...singles to LF
Marisnick singles up the middle, Bregman to 3B, Marisnick to 2B on the throw
Springer...3-0...infield in...hacking, fouls is off...3-1...swings and misses ball four up and in...full count...walks
Reddick sac fly to CF...Bregman scores, Marisnick to 3B, Springer to 2B
Altuve...infield in...lines to 2B on the first pitch
Correa intentionally walked
Beltran flies out to CF on the first pitch

Astros pick up one run and lead 6-1
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:50:35 pm
Astros had bases loaded and nobody out...three pitches later, inning over. 
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 03:57:18 pm
T8:

Guduan in for the Astros

Olson strikes out swinging
Phegley strikes out swinging...2-3 to complete the putout
Brugman strikes out looking

6-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 04:09:23 pm
B8:

Gattis doubles to LCF
Marwin strikes out swinging
Bregman strikes out swinging
Marisnick grounds out 3U

To the 9th...6-1 Astros
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 04:13:24 pm
To the 9th...Hoyt in to try to close it out...
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Texifornia on June 29, 2017, 04:18:01 pm
Hoyt is "Mr. Excitement".
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: HudsonHawk on June 29, 2017, 04:20:23 pm
T9:

Hoyt in...

Rosales strikes out swinging
Joyce pops to 3B, but no one is there on the shift, so it's a double
Barreto strikes out swinging
Lowrie flies out F8

Astros win 6-1
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: jwhudson on June 29, 2017, 04:23:56 pm
Thanks HH
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: das on June 29, 2017, 04:30:08 pm
 28 games above .500. A new high water mark for the season. Very impressive prior to the All-Star break.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 04:37:25 pm
The at em line drives cost us 4 runs.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: geezerdonk on June 29, 2017, 04:44:12 pm
Thread bare rotation; erratic bullpen =  8-2 in the last ten.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Lefty on June 29, 2017, 04:47:25 pm
Thread bare rotation; erratic bullpen =  8-2 in the last ten.

I love this team.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: JimR on June 29, 2017, 05:16:41 pm
Thread bare rotation; erratic bullpen =  8-2 in the last ten.

More tired than erratic, plus AAA pitchers in big roles.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 29, 2017, 05:57:44 pm
More tired than erratic, plus AAA pitchers in big roles.
One is a symptom, the other's a cause, The diagnosis is too many innings forced on relievers due to starters leaving games earlier than desired. The treatment is rest, which is not really an option even with AAA pitchers in big roles. But playing fucking great regardless.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: WVastro on June 29, 2017, 11:03:34 pm
It's midnight est and the Yankees just finished the third inning in Chicago. I'll be curious what their arrival time in Houston will be.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: chuck on June 29, 2017, 11:33:47 pm
I mistakenly thought something would be interesting. I was wrong, because there were numbers involved.

You're either profoundly tone-deaf or this is presidential-level dissimulation. It's OK, though; either suits my purposes.

I'll say this - I gave up talking about clutch performance around here ten years ago or more. Because any time I or anyone else had the temerity to mention clutch we were met with a lively chorus of naysayers who were all too happy to assert that it's a completely fucked-up conceit, as far as I could ever tell because it was ostensibly completely unquantifiable.

The basso profondo of this choir are guys whose high-level competitive experience consists mainly of Dungeons and Dragons and Donkey Kong.

But now... Well! Apparently one of these guys in the Donkey Kong Chorus ran the fuck out of Cheez Whiz and had a couple of minutes to contemplate what might happen if you compared performance in high-leverage situations to global performance or low-leverage spots or whatever it is and now magically clutch is a thing.

People all over the world, join hands. Start a clutch train, a clutch train.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BudGirl on June 30, 2017, 08:01:21 am
It's midnight est and the Yankees just finished the third inning in Chicago. I'll be curious what their arrival time in Houston will be.

6 am according to McTaggart
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/880765275259510784
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MRaup on June 30, 2017, 10:38:28 am
You're either profoundly tone-deaf or this is presidential-level dissimulation. It's OK, though; either suits my purposes.

I'll say this - I gave up talking about clutch performance around here ten years ago or more. Because any time I or anyone else had the temerity to mention clutch we were met with a lively chorus of naysayers who were all too happy to assert that it's a completely fucked-up conceit, as far as I could ever tell because it was ostensibly completely unquantifiable.

The basso profondo of this choir are guys whose high-level competitive experience consists mainly of Dungeons and Dragons and Donkey Kong.

But now... Well! Apparently one of these guys in the Donkey Kong Chorus ran the fuck out of Cheez Whiz and had a couple of minutes to contemplate what might happen if you compared performance in high-leverage situations to global performance or low-leverage spots or whatever it is and now magically clutch is a thing.

People all over the world, join hands. Start a clutch train, a clutch train.

I'm just glad you're not bitter at all.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 30, 2017, 12:25:15 pm
You're either profoundly tone-deaf or this is presidential-level dissimulation. It's OK, though; either suits my purposes.

It's rare that you're honest enough to admit that you're completely ignoring what I said and replying to what you're pretending I said.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: chuck on June 30, 2017, 12:47:18 pm
Friends, we are living in a dangerously anti-intellectual age. Signs of this are abundant. One sign surely is the derisive term 'flip-flopper.' Myself, I view intellectual development as a positive, indeed a necessity. How did the act of changing one's mind as new information is revealed become stigmatized? I do not know. But these crude crusaders of intellectual paralysis are philosophically deficient, that's for sure.

Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

Or, in the local vernacular better suited to our insufficiently celebrated diversity, I's agin' hit afore I's fer hit!
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 30, 2017, 12:55:54 pm
Friends, we are living in a dangerously anti-intellectual age. Signs of this are abundant.

The basso profondo of this choir are guys whose high-level competitive experience consists mainly of Dungeons and Dragons and Donkey Kong.

But now... Well! Apparently one of these guys in the Donkey Kong Chorus ran the fuck out of Cheez Whiz and had a couple of minutes to contemplate what might happen if you compared performance in high-leverage situations to global performance or low-leverage spots or whatever it is and now magically clutch is a thing.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: chuck on June 30, 2017, 01:49:05 pm
It's cute that for you to embrace any idea or belief you need approbation, confirmation, and validation from one of your various totems, sacred or profane, and that you frame my casting a soft if not completely flattering light on that fact as somehow anti-intellectual.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Bench on June 30, 2017, 02:13:13 pm
This is a clutch GZ performance.  Spilling into the afternoon of the day following the game is definitely a high leverage scenario. 
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 30, 2017, 02:17:39 pm
It's cute that for you to embrace any idea or belief you need approbation, confirmation, and validation from one of your various totems, sacred or profane, and that you frame my casting a soft if not completely flattering light on that fact as somehow anti-intellectual.

If you thought I didn't believe in a clutch situation before, you're even dumber than I thought.


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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: chuck on June 30, 2017, 02:47:19 pm
We're not talking about situations, Cletus, we're talking about players. Or at least you are; you're the one who brought this up.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: MusicMan on June 30, 2017, 02:54:13 pm
We're not talking about situations, Cletus, we're talking about players. Or at least you are; you're the one who brought this up.

Nothing in the article I linked stated that clutch players exist. It pointed out that  Reddick's issues are unusual precisely because they have occurred every year, which is a pattern seldom seen in any significant level.

Given your well established lack of any degree of reading comprehension, I'm not surprised the point sailed over your head.


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Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: chuck on June 30, 2017, 03:42:06 pm
Nothing in the article I linked stated that clutch players exist.

No, of course not, they're just measuring leveraged situational performance of individual players and noting the outliers among that data both over careers and over seasons.

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Although research suggests that those attributes exist

You might as well be arguing that it's impossible to call someone with a career average of .320 a good hitter because his last two years he hit .260.

Or .236 in the case of a fellow whose organization apparently values his "clutchness."
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: geezerdonk on June 30, 2017, 03:58:35 pm
Clutchability may be the preferred term.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BizidyDizidy on June 30, 2017, 07:38:20 pm
So chuck, what is is the preferred huffing solvent in Panama these days?
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: geezerdonk on June 30, 2017, 07:47:14 pm
Solvent not clinically indicated. Peyote is.
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: BizidyDizidy on June 30, 2017, 07:52:38 pm
Solvent not clinically indicated. Peyote is.

Thought you had to go further south for that
Title: Re: A's at Astros Getaway Day! 6/29
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on July 05, 2017, 05:54:54 pm
Altuve chases more bad pitches than the rest of the lineup put together.

The 2017 Altuve is the worst elite hitter I've ever seen.