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General Discussion => The Championship Season Game Zone 2017 => Topic started by: Mr. Happy on April 23, 2017, 10:34:07 am
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Your lineups for today's road matinee:
Astros
RFJosh Reddick (L)
DHCarlos Beltran (S)
2BJose Altuve (R)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
CBrian McCann (L)
3BAlex Bregman (R)
1BY. Gurriel (R)
LFNorichika Aoki (L)
CFJake Marisnick (R)
HOU: Joe Musgrove (R) (1-1, 5.87)
Rays
LF Corey Dickerson (L)
DH Logan Morrison (L)
3B Evan Longoria (R)
2B Brad Miller (L)
CF Steven Souza (R)
RF Shane Peterson (L)
1B Rickie Weeks (R)
C Jesus Sucre (R)
SS Tim Beckham (R)
TB: Matt Andriese (R) (1-0, 3.38)
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Lead off man Dickerson reaches on a strikeout/wild pitch, and it results in a run on the two out triple by Miller.
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God damn it
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And Souza follows with a homer. Giving teams extra outs is not something Musgrove can handle.
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Bullpen better be ready
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When would Martes be a realistic option
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That was a damned fine time for Correa to break the slump
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That was a damned fine time for Correa to break the slump
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No shit huh
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He still just 1 for his last 20. He's got to hit a few more before it's not still a slump.
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Marisnick out, Reddick to CF, Marwin in LF, Aoki to right.
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Is the Correa at bat commercial national? Rizzo used to be featured on the commercial in Houston, so not sure if Carlos took his spot or they are regionalizing the ads.
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Jose!
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Marisnick out, Reddick to CF, Marwin in LF, Aoki to right.
In two days our defensive outfield has gone from studly to ugly.
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When would Martes be a realistic option
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No time soon. In 3 starts Martes has logged only 12 IP. He has issued 12 BBs in those 12 IP.
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Marisnick out, Reddick to CF, Marwin in LF, Aoki to right.
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Possible concussion for Jake
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Great job by Musgrove to hold the line after that ugly first inning.
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I wonder how many calls Luhnow is getting about Peacock's availability?
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This team's situational hitting fucking sucks.
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rays defense sucks more
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Gattis with a big sac fly!
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I am pleased with the way Musgrove pitched after that first inning.
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Damn, got up to watch the Rockets and thought this would over. Half a dozen extra innings would nice right now.
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McCann's arm is not good.
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Nice work by Gregerson.
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Free baseball!
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I'm expecting the double steal.
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McCann's arm is not good.
But he can hit.
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Nice
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McCann!!
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Yuli can swing it too.
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Astros plate two on three hits in the 10th.
Giles will try to close it out, Astros up 6-4
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Gurriel is Mr. Consistency.
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Astros win!!!
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Sweet sweet victory!
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Wow. Great win! Didn't expect that after the 1st.
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Wow. Great win! Didn't expect that after the 1st.
Boy, no kidding. Great job of righting the ship by Musgrove and Peacock, and solid work by Gregerson and Giles.
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Yuli might have the best hair in sports.
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Yuli might have the best hair in sports.
I can't think of anyone else who even comes close.
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This team's situational hitting fucking sucks.
That's a little strong, don't you think?
RISP: .275 AVG (8th), .742 OPS (14th), 48 RBI (17th)
RISP w/ 2 outs: .339 AVG (1st), .914 OPS (2nd), 25 RBI (T-4th)
Bases loaded: .235 AVG (16th), .653 OPS (20th), 11 RBI (14th)
They're a little worse than average with the bases loaded, but overall they've been good to very good with situational hitting.
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I can't think of anyone else who even comes close.
Carlos Valderrama back in the day but no active players come to mind.
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That's a little strong, don't you think?
RISP: .275 AVG (8th), .742 OPS (14th), 48 RBI (17th)
RISP w/ 2 outs: .339 AVG (1st), .914 OPS (2nd), 25 RBI (T-4th)
Bases loaded: .235 AVG (16th), .653 OPS (20th), 11 RBI (14th)
They're a little worse than average with the bases loaded, but overall they've been good to very good with situational hitting.
At the time he said it they had just stunk up the joint. I think he worked a reverse jinx, It's like being at a long stop light. The moment you say "wtf?!?!" The light changes green.
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I can't think of anyone else who even comes close.
Jake
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I can't think of anyone else who even comes close.
I have to put in a vote for Beltran's drawn in hair from last year.
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That's a little strong, don't you think?
RISP: .275 AVG (8th), .742 OPS (14th), 48 RBI (17th)
RISP w/ 2 outs: .339 AVG (1st), .914 OPS (2nd), 25 RBI (T-4th)
Bases loaded: .235 AVG (16th), .653 OPS (20th), 11 RBI (14th)
They're a little worse than average with the bases loaded, but overall they've been good to very good with situational hitting.
I'm not talking numbers, I'm talking mental mistakes.
McCann walks on 5 pitches, the pitcher is all over the place.
Bregman take a ball. Check swings at the same pitch. Swings at another borderline pitch and rolls over in to an easy double play.
Shitty situational hitting.
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I'm not talking numbers, I'm talking mental mistakes.
McCann walks on 5 pitches, the pitcher is all over the place.
Bregman take a ball. Check swings at the same pitch. Swings at another borderline pitch and rolls over in to an easy double play.
Shitty situational hitting.
I don't disagree. But calling that "shitty situational hitting" and saying "this team fucking sucks at situational hitting" are two very different things.
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Musgrove showed a lot today. No hits Tampa for the last 5 innings
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I can't think of anyone else who even comes close.
I can't think of anyone who would want to come close. For a guy nicknamed troll doll, it could only be better if it were purple.
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I don't disagree. But calling that "shitty situational hitting" and saying "this team fucking sucks at situational hitting" are two very different things.
I can think of dozens of examples in the young season. Also, the Astros have hit in to almost 30 double plays already this year, which is putrid.
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I can think of dozens of examples in the young season. Also, the Astros have hit in to almost 30 double plays already this year, which is putrid.
And there are at least as many examples of good situational hitting, without which they would probably be .500 or worse.
I guess we have different definitions of what "fucking sucks" means.
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And there are at least as many examples of good situational hitting, without which they would probably be .500 or worse.
I guess we have different definitions of what "fucking sucks" means.
"Situational hitting" does not refer to your batting average with runners in scoring position. It's about altering approach to effectively take advantage of a particular situation. Things like taking strikes, "productive outs", bunting, moving runners on ground balls, sacrifice flies, etc. It's about efficiency and getting the most bang for your hitting buck (which includes not striking out and not hitting into double plays).
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"Situational hitting" does not refer to your batting average with runners in scoring position. It's about altering approach to effectively take advantage of a particular situation. Things like taking strikes, "productive outs", bunting, moving runners on ground balls, sacrifice flies, etc. It's about efficiency and getting the most bang for your hitting buck (which includes not striking out and not hitting into double plays).
Sure, but they wouldn't be 13-6 if they didn't already do all of those things in at least an adequate capacity, especially given the way that some of those 13 wins have transpired. I'm not saying there aren't areas for improvement (e.g. the GIDPs).
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Sure, but they wouldn't be 13-6 if they didn't already do all of those things in at least an adequate capacity, especially given the way that some of those 13 wins have transpired. I'm not saying there aren't areas for improvement (e.g. the GIDPs).
Well, likely not...unless they were scoring runs in bunches and on home runs. The idea of situational hitting is how well you manufacture runs or score runs because you sustained an inning by moving runners, staying out of a double play, not punching out immediately after a leadoff double, etc. Sure there examples of them doing that well. But there are also many examples of them doing it poorly. I haven't looked at numbers, but my instinct is that they are not particularly good at situational hitting, mainly because they haven't had to be. Are they horrible at it? Eh...probably not. But they could use some improvement.
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Are they horrible at it? Eh...probably not.
The only point I'm trying to make.
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Well, likely not...unless they were scoring runs in bunches and on home runs. The idea of situational hitting is how well you manufacture runs or score runs because you sustained an inning by moving runners, staying out of a double play, not punching out immediately after a leadoff double, etc. Sure there examples of them doing that well. But there are also many examples of them doing it poorly. I haven't looked at numbers, but my instinct is that they are not particularly good at situational hitting, mainly because they haven't had to be. Are they horrible at it? Eh...probably not. But they could use some improvement.
Whenever a team has been horrible at something for an extended time (ie. the Astros and situational hitting), fans will continue to notice it and be disgusted by it even if it's not happening as often.
Now, if you want to talk about something the Astros truly suck at, let's talk base running.
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Whenever a team has been horrible at something for an extended time (ie. the Astros and situational hitting), fans will continue to notice it and be disgusted by it even if it's not happening as often.
Now, if you want to talk about something the Astros truly suck at, let's talk base running.
There's probably some truth to that. But there are examples of the Astros being really bad at some things, like base running. And it's hard to overlook the aforementioned GIDP. The Astros lead the majors in that dubious category. By a lot. They rank near the bottom in LOBsters too.
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There's probably some truth to that. But there are examples of the Astros being really bad at some things, like base running. And it's hard to overlook the aforementioned GIDP. The Astros lead the majors in that dubious category. By a lot. They rank near the bottom in LOBsters too.
To have a lot of LOB and GIDP you have to have a lot of guys on base. Could it be that simple as that?
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I don't think there's been an Astros team in the Luhnow era that wasn't pretty damn bad at situational hitting. It seems to be one of those things that raw talent can mask in the regular season but that will fuck us in the playoffs.
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There's probably some truth to that. But there are examples of the Astros being really bad at some things, like base running. And it's hard to overlook the aforementioned GIDP. The Astros lead the majors in that dubious category. By a lot. They rank near the bottom in LOBsters too.
Houston would have a lot fewer double plays if Hinch were a little more aggressive on sending runners on 3-2 counts with less than two outs.
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the Astros are 2nd in the AL in .OBP tied with the NYYs.
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the Astros are 2nd in the AL in .OBP tied with the NYYs.
Yet just 7th in the AL in runs scored.
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Yet just 7th in the AL in runs scored.
Is there an OBP-GIDP stat?
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Whenever a team has been horrible at something for an extended time (ie. the Astros and situational hitting), fans will continue to notice it and be disgusted by it even if it's not happening as often.
Now, if you want to talk about something the Astros truly suck at, let's talk base running.
This is not just a baseball thing, give a dog a bad name...
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Is there an OBP-GIDP stat?
Astros have hit into 28 GIDP...the most in the MLs. The Angels are next at 25. As I previously reported the Astros are tied for 2nd in .OBP in the AL. The GIDP # is both leagues. When it comes to men-stranded, Houston has left 6.53 per game which is the 13th fewest in all of MLB.
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Houston would have a lot fewer double plays if Hinch were a little more aggressive on sending runners on 3-2 counts with less than two outs.
Seems like a good recipe for increasing the caught stealing.
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Houston would have a lot fewer double plays if Hinch were a little more aggressive on sending runners on 3-2 counts with less than two outs.
You're kidding, right? In my opinion, that's a recipe for running yourself out of a bunch of innings.
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You're kidding, right? In my opinion, that's a recipe for running yourself out of a bunch of innings.
No, I'm not kidding. The Astros are striking out less, but they're hitting a shitload of ground balls right at infielders.
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No, I'm not kidding. The Astros are striking out less, but they're hitting a shitload of ground balls right at infielders.
Would you start McCann? Gattis? Marwin? I don't know what to do about the double plays. Hopefully, it was just a streak of bad luck.