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Title: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Mr. Happy on July 15, 2016, 05:04:17 pm
Finally, baseball is back! Your lineups for tonight's late show:

Astros

FGeorge Springer (R)
1BMarwin Gonzalez (S)
2BJose Altuve (R)
SSCarlos Correa (R)
CFCarlos Gomez (R)
3BLuis Valbuena (L)
DHEvan Gattis (R)
LFJake Marisnick (R)
CJason Castro (L)

HOU: Doug Fister (R)  (8-6, 3.55)

Sea Pukes

SS Ketel Marte (S)
LF Seth Smith (L)
2B Robinson Cano (L)
RF Nelson Cruz (R)
3B Kyle Seager (L)
1B Dae-Ho Lee (R)
DH Adam Lind (L)
C Chris Iannetta (R)
CF Leonys Martin (L)

SEA: James Paxton (L)  (2-3, 3.91)
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: geezerdonk on July 15, 2016, 05:28:37 pm
Rangers lose 6-0 to an unidentified National League team.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:13:18 pm
That Springer guy leads off with an opposite field HR. 1-0.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 09:18:59 pm
That Springer guy leads off with an opposite field HR. 1-0.

He really seems to dislike those Starbucks sippin seafarin simps.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:26:04 pm
Fister sets them down 1-2-3 in the first with a couple of flyouts and something else I missed when the wife beckoned.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:32:43 pm
Paxton puts the Astros down 1-2-3 in the second. Gomez hit the ball hard but lined out to 3rd. I wish the Astros had a southpaw SP that threw like Paxton. I did a Similarity Search for him and the #1 comp was JA Happ.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: jbm on July 15, 2016, 09:35:58 pm
He doesn't look like the Happ I remember. 
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:43:52 pm
Fister gets out of the 2nd with a K after allowing a single to the talented Seager from the Silver Bullet Band.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:45:50 pm
Marisnick nearly decaps Paxton with a line single up the middle. One on, no outs, Castro up.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:48:06 pm
Line drive single by Castro to LF puts runners first and second. Springer hits first pitch to SS who bobbles a DP chance but gets the force at 2b. Runners on the corners with one down.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:50:44 pm
Inning fizzles with a 5-4-3 DP hit into by Marwin.  Where is everybody? It's not football season yet.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Aussie Astro on July 15, 2016, 09:55:17 pm
Inning fizzles with a 5-4-3 DP hit into by Marwin.  Where is everybody? It's not football season yet.

Friday night, I assume a number will be passed out drunk by now?
Title: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 09:56:13 pm
Great slap tag there by Valbuena


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: pots on July 15, 2016, 09:56:38 pm
Inning fizzles with a 5-4-3 DP hit into by Marwin.  Where is everybody? It's not football season yet.

Still trying to fathom where Gurriel fits
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 09:58:56 pm
Friday night, I assume a number will be passed out drunk by now?

Late game so I am tea-totaling or I would not make it.

3 up 3 down for Fister as he gives up a  2-out 2b to Marte who is out trying to stretch it to 3rd. Called out on the replay after appearing to be safe. Valbuena placed the tag right on his coconut as he slid in. Marte also seemed to be shaken a bit. Gomez made the nice throw.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 09:59:50 pm
Still trying to fathom where Gurriel fits

A concern that is finally nice to have, an abundance of talented players.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:00:13 pm
Still trying to fathom where Gurriel fits

Repeat after me:  In Luhnow We Trust.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Aussie Astro on July 15, 2016, 10:00:52 pm
Great slap tag there by Valbuena


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Very well done, I thought the runner was safe after every replay, until the slow motion view.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: jbm on July 15, 2016, 10:01:40 pm
Still trying to fathom where Gurriel fits
Third

Nice to see those ropes by Jose and Correa.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:02:43 pm
Very well done, I thought the runner was safe after every replay, until the slow motion view.

Gomez did not take the most efficient route to that ball that Marte hit. Marisnick catches it.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:04:08 pm
Gomez, of course, chased two pitcher's pitches to kill the inning.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:04:35 pm
Altuve and Correa on first and second with two line singles. Gomez bounces in DP with Altuve advancing to 3rd.

Val flies out...promising inning derailed by DP.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Aussie Astro on July 15, 2016, 10:06:08 pm
Gomez did not take the most efficient route to that ball that Marte hit. Marisnick catches it.

Foxing the runner into trying for third?
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:06:55 pm
Gomez did not take the most efficient route to that ball that Marte hit. Marisnick catches it.

Only 86% route efficiency according to the statcast or whatever Darren Willman uses
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:07:06 pm
Foxing the runner into trying for third?

Yes, he would rather throw 'em out than catch the ball.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:09:01 pm
Jake catches Fly ball near foul line and then holds finger up saying he's number 1. Or, maybe he wants Gomez to know there is one out.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: austro on July 15, 2016, 10:09:52 pm
Scoring question for the wizards here about a situation that came up in my friend's son's game this afternoon. Situation: runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Batter hits a pop-up to 2nd, but the 2B drops it. He recovers and forces the runner at 2nd, with the batter replacing him at 1st and the runner on 3rd staying put. How do you score that? I called it a fielder's choice and no error, but the official scorer charged an error to the 2B. How would you score it?
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:10:33 pm
When the weather is on point as it appears to be this evening, Seattle is a phenomenal place to be.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: jbm on July 15, 2016, 10:12:07 pm
Scoring question for the wizards here about a situation that came up in my friend's son's game this afternoon. Situation: runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Batter hits a pop-up to 2nd, but the 2B drops it. He recovers and forces the runner at 2nd, with the batter replacing him at 1st and the runner on 3rd staying put. How do you score that? I called it a fielder's choice and no error, but the official scorer charged an error to the 2B. How would you score it?
I don't think that's an error, just an out at second.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:13:19 pm
Scoring question for the wizards here about a situation that came up in my friend's son's game this afternoon. Situation: runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Batter hits a pop-up to 2nd, but the 2B drops it. He recovers and forces the runner at 2nd, with the batter replacing him at 1st and the runner on 3rd staying put. How do you score that? I called it a fielder's choice and no error, but the official scorer charged an error to the 2B. How would you score it?

I would score it how you did.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:13:59 pm
Scoring question for the wizards here about a situation that came up in my friend's son's game this afternoon. Situation: runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Batter hits a pop-up to 2nd, but the 2B drops it. He recovers and forces the runner at 2nd, with the batter replacing him at 1st and the runner on 3rd staying put. How do you score that? I called it a fielder's choice and no error, but the official scorer charged an error to the 2B. How would you score it?

I'm not sure you can have an error without a runner reaching or, in this case, advancing. But I really don't know.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: austro on July 15, 2016, 10:14:24 pm
Damn it, Gattis, still no triples.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:14:58 pm
If Gattis can get going and Gurriel and/or Bregman contribute, this offense could be fierce.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: jbm on July 15, 2016, 10:15:34 pm
That's will get the run in Jake. Now add on.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: austro on July 15, 2016, 10:16:24 pm
I'm not sure you can have an error without a runner reaching or, in this case, advancing. But I really don't know.

Yeah, it seems to me that there has to be some sort of harm: extra out, extra base, extra run, something. The net effect after this play was no different than if he had caught the pop-up.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:17:11 pm
That's will get the run in Jake. Now add on.

Man, I wish he could do that with some consistency. I'd love to see Jake be the guy in CF next year. Almost seems like there is enough offense to support his defense anyway.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: NeilT on July 15, 2016, 10:17:15 pm
I surely like Marisnick.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Aussie Astro on July 15, 2016, 10:18:11 pm
Yes, he would rather throw 'em out than catch the ball.

I resolved to be more optimistic in the second half.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:18:41 pm
Yeah, it seems to me that there has to be some sort of harm: extra out, extra base, extra run, something. The net effect after this play was no different than if he had caught the pop-up.

That was my thinking...there was no damage done.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:19:21 pm
Castros did a nice job to advance the runner to 3rd


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:25:14 pm
Don't you know it.....a single after getting thrown out at home.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Tralfaz on July 15, 2016, 10:28:34 pm
Scoring question for the wizards here about a situation that came up in my friend's son's game this afternoon. Situation: runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Batter hits a pop-up to 2nd, but the 2B drops it. He recovers and forces the runner at 2nd, with the batter replacing him at 1st and the runner on 3rd staying put. How do you score that? I called it a fielder's choice and no error, but the official scorer charged an error to the 2B. How would you score it?
Wait, did the 2B drop the ball with intent?
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:28:42 pm
Correa just missed a knock but still pretty solid!


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: pots on July 15, 2016, 10:29:12 pm
Wow, when the wheels come off..
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:29:41 pm
Correa scores from second on a wild pitch! That's one of the really exciting plays that you don't see all that often, and it wasn't even close


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Fynn on July 15, 2016, 10:30:36 pm
Why did they even pitch to Correa when Gomez was on deck?
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:31:01 pm
Correa scores from second on a wild pitch! That's one of the really exciting plays that you don't see all that often, and it wasn't even close


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An inning Iannetta would like to forget.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: doyce7 on July 15, 2016, 10:31:35 pm
Correa scores from second on a wild pitch! That's one of the really exciting plays that you don't see all that often, and it wasn't even close


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I was paying attention to something else and hear "Correa scores on a wild pitch" wait what? He was on second!

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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: austro on July 15, 2016, 10:40:17 pm
Wait, did the 2B drop the ball with intent?

No, I don't think so.
Title: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:43:06 pm
Important situation for fister here with one in, two in scoring position, and two out with O'malley up


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: pots on July 15, 2016, 10:44:59 pm
Wheels are everywhere
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: hostros7 on July 15, 2016, 10:47:55 pm
This inning is getting fisted.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: jbm on July 15, 2016, 10:48:31 pm
Surprised they're leaving him in.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: Tralfaz on July 15, 2016, 10:49:21 pm
No, I don't think so.
So why no error if he dropped the ball?
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:49:27 pm
Surprised they're leaving him in.

Trying to get him the W.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:51:15 pm
So why no error if he dropped the ball?

Because there was no benefit to the offensive team. No runner advanced and no extra on base.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:52:03 pm
fister to pitch to Cano as the tying run.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 10:55:33 pm
Whew!!!  Cano dribbles out to the mound to end the inning with two on.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: juliogotay on July 15, 2016, 11:14:35 pm
Feliz struggles a little but gets through the 6th with no damage. still 6-3 Houston after 6.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: jbm on July 15, 2016, 11:35:34 pm
That was an adequate play there by Correa
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: pots on July 16, 2016, 12:07:33 am
Astros win.  Devenski closes it out.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: HudsonHawk on July 16, 2016, 05:15:34 am
Scoring question for the wizards here about a situation that came up in my friend's son's game this afternoon. Situation: runners on 1st and 3rd, less than 2 outs. Batter hits a pop-up to 2nd, but the 2B drops it. He recovers and forces the runner at 2nd, with the batter replacing him at 1st and the runner on 3rd staying put. How do you score that? I called it a fielder's choice and no error, but the official scorer charged an error to the 2B. How would you score it?

No error should be charged here. The rule book, at least the professional one, specifically addresses this situation and states that no error is charged for a dropped ball if the fielder recovers in time to get a force out.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: austro on July 16, 2016, 07:09:37 am
No error should be charged here. The rule book, at least the professional one, specifically addresses this situation and states that no error is charged for a dropped ball if the fielder recovers in time to get a force out.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: MusicMan on July 16, 2016, 08:38:37 am
Still trying to fathom where Gurriel fits

If you thought the shift pissed people off before, wait until we play three 3b and a 2b.


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Title: Re: Astros @ Sea Pukes July 15, 2016
Post by: MusicMan on July 16, 2016, 08:39:43 am
Only 86% route efficiency according to the statcast or whatever Darren Willman uses

Daren now basically runs Statcast for MLBAM.


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