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General Discussion => Beer and Queso => Topic started by: MusicMan on September 13, 2015, 01:09:44 pm
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I only thought the Longhorn's offense was ass. Compared to the Texans, they are only skim ass, or 2% ass at worst.
This Texans offense is pure, unpasteurized, 100% whole ass.
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I only thought the Longhorn's offense was ass. Compared to the Texans, they are only skim ass, or 2% ass at worst.
This Texans offense is pure, unpasteurized, 100% whole ass.
Without Foster they are totally inept.
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Without Foster they are totally inept.
I knew that given the quarterback situation the loss of Foster would result in a deplorable offense. However I expected the defense to be pretty good but so far as a unit they have been bad bordering on terrible.
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I knew that given the quarterback situation the loss of Foster would result in a deplorable offense. However I expected the defense to be pretty good but so far as a unit they have been bad bordering on terrible.
I think they're straddling that border.
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I knew that given the quarterback situation the loss of Foster would result in a deplorable offense. However I expected the defense to be pretty good but so far as a unit they have been bad bordering on terrible.
Hoyer gave them 14 of the 27 points, but yes, they've been bad.
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Hoyer gave them 14 of the 27 points, but yes, they've been bad.
The Chiefs took a total of three plays to score two touchdowns after those two turnovers so the defense didn't exactly man up after those Hoyer mistakes.
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I thought the defense would be pretty good and exciting, instead they seem rather average and commonplace.
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Third and 22, time for the draw play to the FB!
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The Chiefs took a total of three plays to score two touchdowns after those two turnovers so the defense didn't exactly man up after those Hoyer mistakes.
The Chiefs bated the defense with draw plays, that they bit on with the enthusiasm of a coked-up puppy. However, once they calmed down, they did what they should have been doing all along, and shut down the Chiefs completely. Smith was running for his life and sacked a bunch of times.
The offense was awful: limited pass protection and no penetration off the line - hence no ability to run the ball. Hoyer is not good, we still have no tight end worth a fuck and without Foster's smarts our running game consists of a series of rectal examinations for Ben Jones. Oh, and special teams continues to be a joke - capped when the Chiefs' punt returner dropped the ball and was able to pick it up and run for a return longer than any we mustered all game.
I hope that O'Brien didn't blow all his anger and frustration at the ref just before halftime; the team deserved to get the lion's share of that hairdryer job.
One day, the Texans will realise what the league - literally, the NFL - knows; that a QB is the most valuable member of the team. Maybe we need to start a #failforcardale campaign...
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The defense was not particularly, good, but in their defense, two of the TDs had to go less than 15 yards, and they limited Jamal Charles to 57 yards on 16 carries. If you'd have told me that before the game, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat. They also made good adjustments at halftime. If the offense just stays off their dicks...doesn't play well, doesn't even not play terrible, just doesn't stomp their own scrotums, it's 13-10 at halftime, certainly a manageable game.
Special teams was awful. Limey hit the lowlights, but Bullock missing the extra point and nearly clanking the field goal at the end...punt coverage was putrid.
Offense....if I could say one thing to Bill O'Brien, it'd be "what the fuck did you expect?" This is the QB you've chosen.
On the plus side...good job on challenges, and clock management wasn't an issue.
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Offense....if I could say one thing to Bill O'Brien, it'd be "what the fuck did you expect?" This is the QB you've chosen.
For three years, Rick Smith has actively chosen to have no QB. This man still has a job.
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I realized yesterday how fucked our team is when I saw how now Bob and Cal come down to the sideline for "fist bumps" with JJ after he does his stupid run into the corner and scream at the fans before kick-off.
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On the plus side...good job on challenges, and clock management wasn't an issue.
Not to take away from good decision-making by the coaches - but WTF was going on with the officials? The deHopkins catch looked good from my perch in the club level, and that non-call on PI at the end of the half was a joke. Can't remember who was shaping for the catch, but they'd stopped, turned around to face the incoming ball and were about to receive it before getting wiped out by the cornerback. It could not have been more blatant.
Of course, that would've given the Texans a 1st and goal from the 1...
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For three years, Rick Smith has actively chosen to have no QB. This man still has a job.
Was Hoyer on Smith or O'Brien? I'd always assumed the latter due to their past affiliation,
I'd been deluding myself all preseason that Hoyer would be good enough to win behind this defense; i.e. lots of possession, few points to overcome and some help on that front from the D. I was not expecting the second coming of Schaub.
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Was Hoyer on Smith or O'Brien? I'd always assumed the latter due to their past affiliation,
I'd been deluding myself all preseason that Hoyer would be good enough to win behind this defense; i.e. lots of possession, few points to overcome and some help on that front from the D. I was not expecting the second coming of Schaub.
Hoyer is better than Schaub's last season here, and he's better than Fitzpatrick. But not by a lot. I don't know if Mallett is the answer or not, but at least Mallett brings something to the table that the others do not. When Mallett is on the field, the defense has to defend plays they do not have to with Hoyer. I think that gives them more options down the field, and it opens up the running game more.
And speaking of running, I'm a fan of Jonathan Grimes. I think he can be their most productive RB while Foster is out.
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...and he's better than Fitzpatrick.
I strongly do not believe that this is the case.
I do agree that Mallett gives the defense problems that the others do not. Of course he apparently also gives the offense problems that the others do not, hence their electing to start with Hoyer. But I see no sense in continuing with Hoyer. He has no upside at all. Can Mallett reach his upside? I don't know. Probably not. But it is considerably higher than Hoyer's.
The team isn't going to play any meaningful games this year so I think the obvious move is stay with Mallett. If Savage weren't hurt I would be stumping for him.
Grimes is better than Blue. I think Polk has shown the most of any of them but basically I'm in the anyone but Blue camp.
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Grimes is better than Blue. I think Polk has shown the most of any of them but basically I'm in the anyone but Blue camp.
I and, more importantly, Mrs Limey, are fans of Grimes - on and off the field.
Blue may be the dumbest running back I've ever seen. Let that sink in for a moment...
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According to reports, Mallett to start Sunday against Carolina.
That didn't take long.
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According to reports, Mallett to start Sunday against Carolina.
That didn't take long.
I expect these two to do-si-do all season; such is their equivalent mediocrity. If Savage was fit, it would be a three-way.
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"Quarterbacks are a crutch!"
-Bill O'Brien
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I expect these two to do-si-do all season; such is their equivalent mediocrity. If Savage was fit, it would be a three-way.
Savage is far worse than the other 2. Hard as it may be to believe.
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According to reports, Mallett to start Sunday against Carolina.
That didn't take long.
Texans have confirmed that this is the case.
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Savage is far worse than the other 2. Hard as it may be to believe.
Worse than cancer. More final than death. Tom Savage.
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Wonder how those Broncos fans are liking that Kubiak hire now?
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Wonder how those Broncos fans are liking that Kubiak hire now?
Watching Peyton try to run that offense is hilarious.
But the Chiefs' profound stupidity has given the Broncos a chance to go into halftime tied.
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Watching Peyton try to run that offense is hilarious.
But the Chiefs' profound stupidity has given the Broncos a chance to go into halftime tied.
It's time for Barnwell to resurrect his "Thank You For Not Coaching" bit over at Grantland. He's got no shortage of material.
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Andy Reid is the dumbest fucking Mormon on the face of the earth.
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Andy Reid is the dumbest fucking Mormon on the face of the earth.
Well, the fumble wasn't Reid's fault, but what a spectacular collapse. I know I saw at least three Manning flutterballs that KC DBs just dropped, and there were probably more that I didn't see. Combined with the red zone turnovers, you can't say KC didn't have their chances.
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Well, the fumble wasn't Reid's fault, but what a spectacular collapse. I know I saw at least three Manning flutterballs that KC DBs just dropped, and there were probably more that I didn't see. Combined with the red zone turnovers, you can't say KC didn't have their chances.
This is the team that emptied NRG Stadium at halftime 5 days ago. They neutered our offense and were notably better at special teams.
Let that sink in for a while...
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Well, the fumble wasn't Reid's fault, but what a spectacular collapse.
You're on your own 20 with 40 seconds to go in a tied game. What are you doing trying to advance the ball? Kneel it out and go meet at midfield for the flip.
Passing the ball at the end of the first half was nearly as stupid.
And BOB got outcoached by this guy.
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The Texans have finally come to their senses and are ditching the grass for field turf going forward.
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I've been flipping back and forth between the Astros and Texans since the start of the baseball game. Not sure why because this offense is putrid.
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The offense is making the defense look bad. The D is giving up a good ration of points per minute, and in a normal world they would be holding teams to low totals, but they're on the field for 3/4trs of the game!
Foster coming back should help, but maybe O'Brien needs to have a stern chat with his offensive coordinator and coaches, because this offense is incompetence personified.
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The offense is making the defense look bad. The D is giving up a good ration of points per minute, and in a normal world they would be holding teams to low totals, but they're on the field for 3/4trs of the game!
Foster coming back should help, but maybe O'Brien needs to have a stern chat with his offensive coordinator and coaches, because this offense is incompetence personified.
The Panthers double teamed Watt and Clowney on almost every play. So, if it takes 4 players to stop 2 Texans, it's completely apparent how worthless all of the other Texans front 7 players truly must be, because they didn't do dick.
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it's completely apparent how worthless all of the other Texans front 7 players truly must be, because they didn't do dick.
Brian Cushing is the second-highest paid linebacker in the NFL.
Good job, Rick.
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The Panthers double teamed Watt and Clowney on almost every play. So, if it takes 4 players to stop 2 Texans, it's completely apparent how worthless all of the other Texans front 7 players truly must be, because they didn't do dick.
People keep talking about the "front 7"...actually, they're very strong on the front 4 (yes I know technically they're a 3-4, but Clowney is essentially playing defensive end), but they are brutal at linebacker. And as bad as they are at linebacker, they comically worse in the secondary.
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Now Hopkins is out for Sunday's game? They won't manage 100 yards passing.
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Now Hopkins is out for Sunday's game? They won't manage 100 yards passing.
Rest assured...this is the Buccaneers' secondary we are talking about here.
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Now Hopkins is out for Sunday's game? They won't manage 100 yards passing.
Wait, what?
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Wait, what?
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From Berman's twitter: (https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/647123424574226432) Nate Washington on DeAndre Hopkins: "like a hostage situation. If he's a hostage right now we/re going in to get him.
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Wait, what?
Apparently he suffered a concussion last Sunday. It's not clear where he is in the protocol, or whether he'll be allowed to play this weekend.
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Bullock cut and replaced by Nick Novak. Just really gold star quality work on the part of the front office to draft a kicker in the 5th round who is cut a couple years later. That's the "outside the box" type think that is the hallmark of championship franchises.
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Bullock cut and replaced by Nick Novak. Just really gold star quality work on the part of the front office to draft a kicker in the 5th round who is cut a couple years later. That's the "outside the box" type think that is the hallmark of championship franchises.
If you're looking for front office accountability, you're rooting for the wrong team.
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If you're looking for front office accountability, you're rooting for the wrong team.
Similar to if you're looking for quality in your 2nd-5th round draft picks. You needed help at CB, so you went out and got Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael...both gone. You needed help on the D-line, so you got Louis Nix...gone. You needed help at guard, so you shot your wad on Xavier Su'a Filo...can't beat out the scrubs on the waiver wire. You needed help at WR, so you traded up for Jaelen Strong...can't get on the field on a team that is comically weak at WR. The list goes on and on...
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Not sure this team is comically weak at WR, but yes, they do a pretty shitty job in the draft, and manage to retain their jobs.
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Similar to if you're looking for quality in your 2nd-5th round draft picks. You needed help at CB, so you went out and got Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael...both gone. You needed help on the D-line, so you got Louis Nix...gone. You needed help at guard, so you shot your wad on Xavier Su'a Filo...can't beat out the scrubs on the waiver wire. You needed help at WR, so you traded up for Jaelen Strong...can't get on the field on a team that is comically weak at WR. The list goes on and on...
The franchise has never had a quarterback of any repute, and usually has one who who would not be a starter on any other team in the league. We haven't had a tight end since Daniels left.
Unless and until McNair wakes up and fires the GM and all his cronies, this team will go nowhere.
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This team is indescribably bad.
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Putrid. Insult to injury is going to be drafting a weenie QB.
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Putrid. Insult to injury is going to be drafting a weenie QB.
I doubt they'll draft a quarterback. BOB knows that his clock doesn't start until he commits to 'his' quarterback. And on Planet McNair what happens on the field is not of primary importance.
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I doubt they'll draft a quarterback. BOB knows that his clock doesn't start until he commits to 'his' quarterback. And on Planet McNair what happens on the field is not of primary importance.
Is there a devout Christian available in the draft? #priorities
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How did they ever win one?
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How did they ever win one?
Tampa some how sucks even more.
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Tampa some how sucks even more.
I've just come from a charity event where Rick Smith was one of the community sponsors. I think I speak for everyone in the room when I say it was so hard no to walk up to him and say, simply, "WTF?!!!"
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This whole "a real quarterback is a crutch" thing has worked out just how you'd expect it to.
Bill O'Brien needs to be fired. Preferably out of a cannon, but a trebuchet will do in a pinch...
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In the last 30 years of Houston sports, where would you rank McNair as an owner?
This franchise is wretched, I can not believe people are willing to pay money to attend Bob's shitshow. It has to the least entertaining professional franchise in the any sport. IT starts at the top with the culture that McNair has brought. Boring, sterile, utra conservative.
Just a godawful tearfully boring product.
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This franchise is wretched, I can not believe people are willing to pay money to attend Bob's shitshow.
The stadium is sold out to us season ticket holders. The reluctance to give up the tickets is because maybe they'll be good one year, and you piss down the drain the PSL.
It's an incredibly smart marketing plan because it completely negates elasticity of demand.
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Understand, guess you are stuck. How hard is it these days to sell your tickets at face value on the secondary market.
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Understand, guess you are stuck. How hard is it these days to sell your tickets at face value on the secondary market.
You can easily sell them at a premium on the secondary market. No one is forcing anyone to purchase tickets to Texans games.
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You can easily sell them at a premium on the secondary market. No one is forcing anyone to purchase tickets to Texans games.
Mine are hard to sell lately - unless I want to take a big hit - because they're in the club and so have a limited market. A market that shrinks with every dick-stomping loss these guys put up.
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Mine are hard to sell lately - unless I want to take a big hit - because they're in the club and so have a limited market. A market that shrinks with every dick-stomping loss these guys put up.
I have a hard time developing any sympathy for you. I was a Saints season ticket holder back in the late 70's to mid-90's and saw some pretty rotten football, including the Aints season of 1980 where we went 1-15. just go and have fun.
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Mine are hard to sell lately - unless I want to take a big hit - because they're in the club and so have a limited market. A market that shrinks with every dick-stomping loss these guys put up.
First world problems...
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First world problems...
Since when did New Orleans join the first world?
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I have a hard time developing any sympathy for you. I was a Saints season ticket holder back in the late 70's to mid-90's and saw some pretty rotten football, including the Aints season of 1980 where we went 1-15. just go and have fun.
No worries; I wasn't looking for sympathy. Just channeling Chuck and speaking as to why McNair doesn't really have to do anything with the team because the big money streams - TV money and ticket sales - are all maxed out and won't change materially even with a Super Bowl win.
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First world problems...
Big time.
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No worries; I wasn't looking for sympathy. Just channeling Chuck and speaking as to why McNair doesn't really have to do anything with the team because the big money streams - TV money and ticket sales - are all maxed out and won't change materially even with a Super Bowl win.
Impressive display of self control, what, to have avoided sharing my remarks thus far.
Or maybe it's just apathy.
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Meanwhile, Berman just retweeted a Fox 26 report that McNair "has made a substantial donation to forces opposing the HERO ordinance."
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Meanwhile, Berman just retweeted a Fox 26 report that McNair "has made a substantial donation to forces opposing the HERO ordinance."
That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.
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That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.
It's nice for chuck that even though he has to abandon all his principles in rooting for this extremely fun team of Crane's, he still has the hapless Texans to rail on (and undeniably rightly so).
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*** Breaking News ***
O'Brien has named Hoyer as the Texans' QB to take at least the first snap against the Jaguars on Sunday.
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That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.
I still hate the Cowboys owner more... Fuck. I wish there was a NFL team I could get excited to root for.
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That motherfucker gave half a million dollars to Lindsey Graham. That's the level of dementia we're dealing with.
I wish I had that kind of money to waste on hopeless causes.
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I wish I had that kind of money to waste on hopeless causes.
Me too. No matter how unworthy the hopeless cause may be.
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Rick Smith is a buffoon, but he made the right call on DeAndre Hopkins.
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Meanwhile, Berman just retweeted a Fox 26 report that McNair "has made a substantial donation to forces opposing the HERO ordinance."
McNair rescinded his donation (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-owner-Bob-McNair-rescinds-contribution-to-6586869.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop) to the anti-HERO campaign:
His statement (excerpted):
"I recently made a personal contribution to Campaign for Houston because my thorough review of the HERO ordinance led me to believe that a thoughtful rewrite would provide a better ordinance that would provide strong non-discrimination protections for all Houstonians, which I would support, and would be less divisive of our city.
It was on these principles that I made my personal contribution to Campaign for Houston. To my great dismay, Campaign for Houston made numerous unauthorized statements about my opposition to HERO in print, broadcast and social media – including attributing certain statements of belief to me. Their actions and statements were never discussed with nor approved by me. Therefore I instructed the Campaign to return my contribution."
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What a fucking shitstain.
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Texans forgot to make the trip to Miami. Maybe they were too busy campaigning.
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The first half of the first quarter has been putrid in every aspect of the game. I can't honestly think of one play that has been "good".
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Shitty owner. Shitty GM. Shitty coach.
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Biggest piece of shit franchise in pro sports. What an utter disgrace.
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Bigoted fucking shitstain owner, ignorant fucking sheep who pay to support this disgusting abortion.
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The thing that make him a shitty owner is that he doesn't care about winning.
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Is it too soon to ask whether O'Brien has what it takes to do the job?
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Is it too soon to ask whether O'Brien has what it takes to do the job?
No. He's in over his head but so is everyone else in any position of authority.
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It's a hollow organization bereft of any capable leadership at any level.
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The thing that make him a shitty owner is that he doesn't care about winning.
Correct.
The bigotry makes him a shitty person, but that's a separate matter.
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Is it too soon to ask whether O'Brien has what it takes to do the job?
The emperor's had no clothes on for over a year now. O'Brien is so far in over his head he makes Ray Handley look like Vince Lombardi.
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The emperor's had no clothes on for over a year now. O'Brien is so far in over his head he makes Ray Handley look like Vince Lombardi.
I don't understand his sideline demeanor. Just stands there with that stupid look on his face. Then he keeps Foster in at the end of the game when it's meaningless.
I want to pull for the Texans but I just can't get behind them. First it was the Aggie coach and now they just suck. It's hard to believe with all the draft picks that Houston has not had a quarterback since Warren Moon.
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I don't understand his sideline demeanor. Just stands there with that stupid look on his face. Then he keeps Foster in at the end of the game when it's meaningless.
I have a strong liking for O'Brien, but I don't know enough about coaching to rate him at that. He's better than Kubiak, that's for damn sure, and having a dumb look on your face watching this team play is mostly universal. Leaving Foster in was not a mistake, though, as the Texans were having a tilt at winning the game. He got hurt breaking off the line, which could've happened at any time.
I want to pull for the Texans but I just can't get behind them. First it was the Aggie coach and now they just suck. It's hard to believe with all the draft picks that Houston has not had a quarterback since Warren Moon.
That's on Rick Smith, who has deserved the boot for a long while now. He consistently fails to assemble a major league squad - QB being the most glaring omission.
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Time to clean house. Fire Rick Smith, get a proper GM who knows WTF he's doing and then tank the rest of the season for the #1 pick. Spend it on a QB, either in the draft or via trade.
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He's better than Kubiak, that's for damn sure,
Im no longer convinced of this. Kubiak's teams never got blown completely out of the game the way this one consistently does.
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Time to clean house. Fire Rick Smith, get a proper GM who knows WTF he's doing and then tank the rest of the season for the #1 pick. Spend it on a QB, either in the draft or via trade.
My understanding is that BOB is making the personnel decisions, not Rick Smith.
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What roles do GMs have in football anyways? It always seems like the head coaches are the ones with all the power.
I don't know if it's preparation or what, but BOB is consistently putting together a team and gameplan that are outmatched from the first snap of the game.
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O'Brien is trying to build his team as if he was still at Penn State and the objective was to finish a strong second in the Big 10 to Ohio State and make it to a bowl game that's not named after a garden tool. But the NFL doesn't quite work that way. First of all, you need a real quarterback...
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What roles do GMs have in football anyways? It always seems like the head coaches are the ones with all the power.
I don't know if it's preparation or what, but BOB is consistently putting together a team and gameplan that are outmatched from the first snap of the game.
It depends on the team. Some GM's are responsible for selecting player personnel, but others defer to the coach and are responsible for the contract negotiation, salary cap management, overseeing the scouting departments, etc.
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O'Brien is trying to build his team as if he was still at Penn State and the objective was to finish a strong second in the Big 10 to Ohio State and make it to a bowl game that's not named after a garden tool. But the NFL doesn't quite work that way. First of all, you need a real quarterback...
Their problems run far deeper than QB. It's a breakdown in almost every area. One could make an argument that they need major help at every position, except defensive end and Hopkins. Basically, it's been the same story for years. Seems hopeless.
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Im no longer convinced of this. Kubiak's teams never got blown completely out of the game the way this one consistently does.
Kubiak managed to squeeze 6-8 wins out of 14-win talent. That's extraordinary. O'Brien doesn't have near the talent Kubiak did. And I'll say this for OB...as unprepared as they are at the start of games, he and his staff knows how to make in-game adjustments. Kubiak was just the opposite. Kubiak was simply outcoached, in every aspect, by every other coach in the league.
Kubiak had no brains. OB appears to have no heart. McNair has no courage. Dorothy would do a better job.
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Their problems run far deeper than QB. It's a breakdown in almost every area. One could make an argument that they need major help at every position, except defensive end and Hopkins. Basically, it's been the same story for years. Seems hopeless.
Look at the defense for example:
JJ Watt - 1st round pick, huge contract
Clowney - 1st overall pick
Wilfork - FA $$
J Joe - FA $$$
Johnson - 1st round pick
Jackson - 1st round pick
Cushing - 1st round pick, big extension
When considering draft picks and financial commitment, the organization has made a huge investment in the defense. Other than Arian's contract, Hop's 1st round pick, and Duane Brown's 1st round pick, the major investments made on this roster have all been on the defensive side of the football. The defensive performance yesterday was one of the worst that I've ever seen watching the NFL. So, the organization should ask itself, how is the defense, which we've invested nearly all of our resources in putting together, capable of that abortion of a performance yesterday, one that is not entirely dissimilar from all the games this year not played in Jacksonville? The only conclusions available are that you have a) the wrong coaches managing those resources, b) did a poor job assessing talent in the draft and signing free agents, including extensions to your own players, or c) a combination of the two. My money is most definitely on option C, but not to address either A or B by firing/re-assigning Crennel or Rick Smith is a major organizational failure that starts at the top.
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@ChronBrianSmith: O'Brien tried and wanted to cut Mallett on Saturday after he missed team plane. GM Rick Smith wouldn't allow it and overruled #Texans' coach
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My guess is that Mallett gets cut the day after the game going into the bye. That will allow them to bring somebody else in and get him up to speed.
Did Mallett at least blame the missed flight on the rain?
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Did Mallett at least blame the missed flight on the rain?
Blame it on the rain? Only worked for Milli Vanilli.
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@ChronBrianSmith: O'Brien tried and wanted to cut Mallett on Saturday after he missed team plane. GM Rick Smith wouldn't allow it and overruled #Texans' coach
I guess that answers the question of who cares nitrous the roster decisions.
IMHO, Mallett should've been cut the day he didn't show up for practice.
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I guess that answers the question of who cares nitrous the roster decisions.
I don't know what that autocorrected from, but I'm glad "nitrous" is in your recent dictionary.
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I don't know what that autocorrected from, but I'm glad "nitrous" is in your recent dictionary.
Never even saw that happen. I think it was meant to be "has control of"; how it got to "cares nitrous" - which should be an actual phrase - I have no idea.
At least it didn't autocorrect to "midget goat porn".
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At least it didn't autocorrect to "midget goat porn".
Are the goats tiny and peoples regular size? Or are midget peoples having relations with normal size goats?
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At least they're tanking properly.
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 3m3 minutes ago
Texans not expected to bring in running back with Foster out http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Tua
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At least they're tanking properly.
Losing the AFC South is going to be much, much harder than winning it.
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@ChronBrianSmith: O'Brien tried and wanted to cut Mallett on Saturday after he missed team plane. GM Rick Smith wouldn't allow it and overruled #Texans' coach
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Looks like BOB got his wish. Mallett cut, according to the twitterverse.
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@MarkBermanFox26: Have confirmed #Texans signing T.J. Yates as the team's backup QB replacing Ryan Mallett who was released.
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I wonder what the Texans roster would look like, if instead of letting Rick Smith make picks, the just put the draft in auto-mode and just used McShay/Kiper/Whomevers rankings make the picks for them.
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I guess that answers the question of who cares nitrous the roster decisions.
IMHO, Mallett should've been cut the day he didn't show up for practice.
Who did you think made roster decisions?
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Who did you think made roster decisions?
It was suggested in here that O'Brien held those reins, when I'd always thought is was the GM's job.
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O'Brien wanted Mallet, Smith got him.
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The the shock of ones of people, OB and Smith aren't on the best of terms.
Warning: If ou're in a good mood, don't read this article (http://www.battleredblog.com/2015/10/26/9619062/report-bill-obrien-tried-to-cut-ryan-mallett-before-dolphins-game).
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O'Brien wanted Mallet, Smith got him.
He was merely completing his collection of Patriot back-ups.
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Blame it on the rain? Only worked for Milli Vanilli.
For a while.
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I just hope the situation spirals to the point they have to fire everyone. Who can fire McNair?
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For a while.
Yeah. I heard that wasn't really them dancing on the videos.
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Yeah. I heard that wasn't really them dancing on the videos.
Two fakes eventually get uncovered and only one of them survives. There are parallels one could run with if one were so inclined.
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Texans confirmed that they've signed Yates. Maybe he'll get a shot now, instead of being left out to dry by Kubiak. He won a playoff game once...
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Texans confirmed that they've signed Yates. Maybe he'll get a shot now, instead of being left out to dry by Kubiak. He won a playoff game once...
He's the anti-Ryan Mallet:
- good guy
- solid teammate
- respected in the locker room
- hard worker
- pretty sharp
- short on talent
I wouldn't get your hopes up. He had peak Arian at his disposal and the best Texans defense ever to take the field when that playoff game was won.
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Dolphins probably thought they were pretty good after last week's game, particularly on offense. The distance between the Texans and the Patriots is measured on an astronomical scale.
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The Patriots are in such a FU mood, they could break whatever the modern record for points is when they play the Texans.
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I'm seriously considering wagering an absurdly large amount of money on Patriots-Texans.
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I'm seriously considering wagering an absurdly large amount of money on Patriots-Texans.
What would the line have to be to *not* take the Patriots?
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What would the line have to be to *not* take the Patriots?
This article shows the widest spreads in history. Only two of the eleven favorites covered in games presented. The most lopsided favorite was the Broncos (-28) against the Jags in 2013. The Patriots have provided some memorable streaks for the gambling community -- most notably perhaps, the 2008 Pats/Over parlay that paid out nearly every week (IIRC) until the game listed here against Miami of all teams which was 1-14.
http://www.si.com/nfl/photos/2013/10/14/biggest-point-spreads-nfl-history
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This article shows the widest spreads in history. Only two of the eleven favorites covered in games presented. The most lopsided favorite was the Broncos (-28) against the Jags in 2013. The Patriots have provided some memorable streaks for the gambling community -- most notably perhaps, the 2008 Pats/Over parlay that paid out nearly every week (IIRC) until the game listed here against Miami of all teams which was 1-14.
So, basically, the Texans represent a banana skin in front of those who bet on the Pats.
If I was inclined to bet (which I'm not), I'd bet a small amount on the Texans and get stupid odds.
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Most points scored in a NFL game (Superbowl era) is 62. It has happened 4 times. Of course O'Brien's friendship with Brady and Belicheck probably preclude them from running it up that much.
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Watching Titans-Texans was like watching a pillow fight between 2 quadriplegics.
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Watching Titans-Texans was like watching a pillow fight between 2 quadriplegics.
It was awful. Hoyer is a less-talented Schaub: he makes quick, bad decisions but isn't as tall/strong.
The defense is better with Clowney off the field.
The Titans have a worse QB than we do.
DeAndre Hopkins may be better than AJ.
Alfred Blue is one of the dumbest RBs I've ever seen, and that's a low bar.
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T.J. Yates!!!!!
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T.J. Yates!!!!!
I wonder how many of the current Texans even knew who he was before last week. Hell, before today.
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I wonder how many of the current Texans even knew who he was before last week. Hell, before today.
The only offensive player left from that 2011 team that I can think of off the top of my head is Duane Brown. On defense...you have Watt, Cushing, Joseph...but that's about it.
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T.J. Yates!!!!!
He kills more Bengals than Minnesota dentists.
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It was awful. Hoyer is a less-talented Schaub: he makes quick, bad decisions but isn't as tall/strong.
The defense is better with Clowney off the field.
The Titans have a worse QB than we do.
DeAndre Hopkins may be better than AJ.
Alfred Blue is one of the dumbest RBs I've ever seen, and that's a low bar.
What was different from the Titans game was that Clowney wasn't available and Hoyer had time - and used it - in the pocket. Everything else remains true. Still not convinced that we make the game-winning TD drive with Hoyer under center, though.
Still, if Eifort hangs onto a couple of catches in the 4th queater, it's a different result. Regardless, that was a much better Texans' performance all round....once Hoyer remembered that DeAndre is on the field somewhere and probably open.
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He kills more Bengals than Minnesota dentists.
So how many dentist has he killed, 2?
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So how many dentist has he killed, 2?
At least.
BTW, what's the collective name for dentists; a drill?
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What was different from the Titans game was that Clowney wasn't available and Hoyer had time - and used it - in the pocket. Everything else remains true. Still not convinced that we make the game-winning TD drive with Hoyer under center, though.
Still, if Eifort hangs onto a couple of catches in the 4th queater, it's a different result. Regardless, that was a much better Texans' performance all round....once Hoyer remembered that DeAndre is on the field somewhere and probably open.
Hoyer still has the same problem he's always had and that's the football seems glued to his hands. He holds on to it FOREVER, and every pass he throws is late. The ball is either behind the receiver or the receiver has to slow down, which usually means he's no longer open. He's also terrified to throw the ball more than 10 yards. So no, I don't think the Texans win that game with Hoyer in there all night.
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Hoyer still has the same problem he's always had and that's the football seems glued to his hands. He holds on to it FOREVER, and every pass he throws is late. The ball is either behind the receiver or the receiver has to slow down, which usually means he's no longer open. He's also terrified to throw the ball more than 10 yards. So no, I don't think the Texans win that game with Hoyer in there all night.
He has a chronic double-clutch problem that stops him making snap-passes. Might explain some of the tardiness of his balls (NTTAWWT).
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Meanwhile, ex-Texan Case Keenum is replacing Nick Foles as the starter for the Rams.
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Meanwhile, ex-Texan Case Keenum is replacing Nick Foles as the starter for the Rams.
...and ex-Texan (and erstwhile Limey man-crush) Ryan Fitzpatrick starts against the Texans on Sunday.
Also, the Texans rescue Brandon Weeden from the Cowboys' dumpster, where he was thrown after not being able to re-take the starting job from Matt "oh and four" Cassell.
TJ Yates better be packed in bubblewrap between games.
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The defense is better with Clowney off the field.
It's not just me (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/nov/20/nfl-previews-tony-romo-jets-texans) that's noticing...
Whitney Mercilus has lived up to his surname since being granted greater pass-rushing responsibilities, and it will be interesting to see how coaches manage the reintegration of Jadeveon Clowney, returning from injury, in that context.
I hope he's left on the bench as much as possible. Clowney never penetrates the o-line and only seems to make tackles behind him once someone else has held up the runner. He also can't stay healthy for more than a quarter or two at a time. My opinion: cut him and move on.
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Clowney never penetrates the o-line and only seems to make tackles behind him once someone else has held up the runner. He also can't stay healthy for more than a quarter or two at a time. My opinion: cut him and move on.
You're watching different games than I am then. Clowney is consistently the one who *causes* other players to make plays behind the line, even if he's not the one to make them.
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My opinion: cut him and move on.
His injuries have been frustrating, but there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't put in a waiver claim if the Texans were to cut him. He's been disruptive in his limited playing time. The challenge for the coaching staff will be to come up with schemes that allow both Clowney and Mercilus to thrive.
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You're watching different games than I am then. Clowney is consistently the one who *causes* other players to make plays behind the line, even if he's not the one to make them.
I agree. Mercilus has been great, but Clowney has been just fine.
Their defense has been better, IMO, because their corners have been way better, the safeties and linebackers have started to actually tackle and Watt has been Watt, just with more assignment integrity.
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I agree. Mercilus has been great, but Clowney has been just fine.
Their defense has been better, IMO, because their corners have been way better, the safeties and linebackers have started to actually tackle and Watt has been Watt, just with more assignment integrity.
The corners are actually covering people, and that has made all the difference in the world.
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For those of you who pay much closer attention to the Texans, considering what we know now about Mallett... why was he kept on the team for as long as he was?
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For those of you who pay much closer attention to the Texans, considering what we know now about Mallett... why was he kept on the team for as long as he was?
Because he has twice as much talent as any other QB they have.
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Rams QB Nick Foles has the kind of talent Mallet has, and he is being benched in favor of Case Keenum.
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Rams QB Nick Foles has the kind of talent Mallet has, and he is being benched in favor of Case Keenum.
Mallet has far more talent than Foles and Keenum put together. He has 10% the brains as either one of them. Mallet is not a star because he's a dumbass, not because he can't play QB.
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For those of you who pay much closer attention to the Texans, considering what we know now about Mallett... why was he kept on the team for as long as he was?
Because he was 1 of 2 non-injured QBs. If Savage hadn't gone down, he'd have been cut a while back.
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Because he has twice as much talent as any other QB they have.
Yates >>> Mallett.
Like Falco >>> Martel
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Rams QB Nick Foles has the kind of talent Mallet has, and he is being benched in favor of Case Keenum.
I thought that it was interesting to see, this weekend, that the former Texans' QBs who were overlooked by Kubiak in favour of Schaub - Yates and Keenum - were starting this weekend.
Meanwhile, Schaub has just slid into the Ravens' starting role after Flacco's season-ending injury. He'll start on MNF next week.
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Meanwhile, Schaub has just slid into the Ravens' starting role after Flacco's season-ending injury. He'll start on MNF next week.
Excuse me while I book a Vegas trip that will almost certainly pay for itself.
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Who stomped on their dick more last night: the Texans or the officials?
It seemed to me that the referees - either by accident or by design - favoured the Patriots on every 50/50 call. I was surprised that NY HQ overturned their on field fuck-ups; maybe it was just poor refereeing or maybe the calls were so obviously wrong that they could not let them stand in good conscience with a nation watching.
Meanwhile, the Texans offense plumbed new lows. Hoyer seems laser-focused on one small patch of the field whenever he drops back; he certainly wasn't watching for sacks coming from the non-blind side. Hopkins seemed intent on hiding behind the one guy covering him. To be fair, that corner had him for speed, so why not try a go-and-stop, come back for the catch and put some doubt in the corner's head, instead of everything being a dead-heat foot race?
Oh, and W...T...F... is up with that Hoyer in a wideout position play? They ran it twice last night. TWICE!
I know Foster is out, but they had some success running the ball early. What they couldn't do was pass, with the exception of a couple of nice completions to Washington and Griffin. Everything else was dogshit. That let the Pats stuff the line and we were then completely neutered. The 4-play series when gifted possession inside the Pats' 20 was an amazing sequence in which they stepped on their dick so hard that they tore it off, then they shot it, then they blew their own balls off just to make sure.
Now they have to go to Indy next week and win. Is this the team to finally break the Indy curse? I'm not betting on it.
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Who stomped on their dick more last night: the Texans or the officials?
They're both who we thought they were.
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Meanwhile, the Texans offense plumbed new lows. Hoyer seems laser-focused on one small patch of the field whenever he drops back; he certainly wasn't watching for sacks coming from the non-blind side....I know Foster is out, but they had some success running the ball early. What they couldn't do was pass, with the exception of a couple of nice completions to Washington and Griffin. Everything else was dogshit. That let the Pats stuff the line and we were then completely neutered.
Limey...meet Brian Hoyer. That's who he is. That was textbook Hoyer.
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As bad as the offense was, Hoyer missed a couple wide open long balls that could have completely changed the game. Patriots almost assuredly still win but it would have been in question late. Nice to see Clowney play like he did. Maybe he is finally healthy.
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Hoyer and Luck both ruled out for Sunday's game.
I know which set of fans will be less upset with this news...
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Hoyer and Luck both ruled out for Sunday's game.
I know which set of fans will be less upset with this news...
I'm conflicted - I cannot root for a loss and am always happy with a Division Championship and playoff run, but realistically, this team will not get past the Divisional round and it only hurts their chances of drafting a quality QB in the spring. Unless they think they can get Brees this offseason, it's a problem.
Then there is this article on Chron today: http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2015/12/texans-owner-bob-mcnair-covets-franchise-qb-wants-to-keep-gm-rick-smith/
“I think Bill and Rick get along and the way we’re organized is good. We’ve actually done fairly well. I know there’s been criticism of the draft but look back at it. On offense, nine of our 11 players are guys we drafted and on defense it’s eight.”
Fine, that's the numbers but the question is are these guys "just guys" or do you have a vast majority of "good" players. There are a few "great players" - normal I would say for the NFL on the Texans, there are very few "good" players and a lot of "average" to "below average" players. It's that simple. I don't care how many of the guys were drafted - I care about their quality. Missing on so many 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders is why the Texans are not a consistent playoff team.
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Damn, that's depressing. Rick Smith is a problem, McNair not recognizing that is fatal.
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McNair is a problem
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McNair is a problem
He's probably the single biggest problem, closely followed by the subservient necks who'll keep buying tickets regardless of the garbage he offers.
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It was always going to take an awful lot of planets aligning to break that losing streak in Indianapolis. I never expected that they would line up in such a fucked up pattern, though.
Texans still alive; Cowboys eliminated - by the Texans' former QB and kicker; Cowboys' reject QB wins it for the Texans. So many ways to enjoy this.
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I never thought Weeden was the only reason the Cowboys lost those games. He's a fine back-up quarterback.
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I never thought Weeden was the only reason the Cowboys lost those games. He's a fine back-up quarterback.
There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.
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It was always going to take an awful lot of planets aligning to break that losing streak in Indianapolis. I never expected that they would line up in such a fucked up pattern, though.
The Texans may screw around and give this thing back, but the Colts are a mess right now, and that's what it took. Now if they can just stay off their dicks for another couple of weeks...
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There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.
So what's the scoop on Hoyer? Will he back next week? If not, the Texans will need to sign their 6th string QB from off the street, and make him the backup next week. Who's available?
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There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.
I thought Moore looked pretty good, actually.
Also, I'm not sure I could argue with any conviction that Yates and Weeden look significantly worse than Hoyer and Mallett.
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There's definitely something very wrong in Dallas that they cut Weeden only to end up benching Cassell for a career back-up who'd never taken a snap for real in the NFL before.
I think they are evaluating him to see what they need to address in the draft. IMO, their season was done when they couldn't win a game without Romo - which I blame quite a bit on the defense. If Moore does well in the last couple of games, then QB is not as much of a priority as it could be.
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So what's the scoop on Hoyer? Will he back next week? If not, the Texans will need to sign their 6th string QB from off the street, and make him the backup next week. Who's available?
Grossman and Tebow are the only ones that come to mind.
Hoyer is still being evaluated. I suspect the fact that they haven't signed anyone yet is a good sign for hoyer?
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Grossman and Tebow are the only ones that come to mind.
Hoyer is still being evaluated. I suspect the fact that they haven't signed anyone yet is a good sign for hoyer?
Actually, they signed B.J. Daniels, a wide receiver, off the Seahawks' practice squad. He played QB in college, and some in Seattle before they moved him to WR. I think it's safe to say the QB barrel is officially empty.
Hoyer has to meet with specialists this week. So far, he's not been cleared.
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They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game? If so, is he #2 if Hoyer can't go, or if they didn't have a #3 going into the Indy game, will the Seattle receiver be #2 if Hoyer can't go?
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They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game?
No. As it stands the people who could conceivably play quarterback for the Texans during this critical playoff run are Hoyer, who has suffered at least six concussions in his career, Weeden, this new guy Daniels, and Shane Lechler. I would imagine that if Cecil Shorts is healthy (he left Sunday's game with a groin issue) he'll might some snaps at quarterback this week, too.
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So, it's plausible that they could have a receiver at the helm causing them to miss the playoffs in the weakest division they've ever faced, all while they've squirreled away on IR the only QB they have drafted in recent years. Seems kind of fitting for this organization.
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So, it's plausible that they could have a receiver at the helm causing them to miss the playoffs in the weakest division they've ever faced, all while they've squirreled away on IR the only QB they have drafted in recent years. Seems kind of fitting for this organization.
I believe you have hit upon the nub of the matter, yes.
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They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game? If so, is he #2 if Hoyer can't go, or if they didn't have a #3 going into the Indy game, will the Seattle receiver be #2 if Hoyer can't go?
What has been the overall run of QBs on the year? Hoyer, Mallet, Yates, Weeden, (Savage on IR), Daniel? Am I missing someone?
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So, it's plausible that they could have a receiver at the helm causing them to miss the playoffs in the weakest division they've ever faced, all while they've squirreled away on IR the only QB they have drafted in recent years. Seems kind of fitting for this organization.
While I agree with you, I think it's highly unlikely (<20% chance) they miss the playoffs. As I've said before, I'm a bit torn on this matter. They have no real chance in the playoffs, period. QB plays a part in that. If they had an aboslutely dominate defense, I might think differently...but they don't. It's a good to better than average defense, but not great and certainly not dominate. Unfortunately, the ramifications of winning this terrible division are compounding. As of now they lose 5 spots in the draft order vs. the Colts....this could be worse if they get lucky and win the first playoff game - something that "could" happen against the Chiefs IMHO. They also finish first in the division, meaning the 2016 schedule includes a trip to Foxboro instead of playing at the Jets. Their 2016 away schedule is absolutely brutal at this point, including trips to Foxboro, Green Bay and Denver.
Now that I'm done moaning about the impacts - there is a possiblity the Texans have a QB with potential next year. Kap, RG III, and Brees are all likely to be FA's next year and not going back to their teams.
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Seriously, RG3 is on your radar? You know he sucks, right? He's not even the back-up for the Redskins. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the Texans but surely they can find someone better.
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Seriously, RG3 is on your radar? You know he sucks, right? He's not even the back-up for the Redskins. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the Texans but surely they can find someone better.
You do realize that he is where he is in part b/c of the $16 million option which is guaranteed for injury. They don't want him, for reasons clearly related to relationships, and would be forced to pay him if he got injured...at all.
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They have gone through so many, it is hard to keep up. Did they have a 3rd stringer, presumably on the practice squad, going into the Indy game? If so, is he #2 if Hoyer can't go, or if they didn't have a #3 going into the Indy game, will the Seattle receiver be #2 if Hoyer can't go?
#3 going into the Indy game was Weeden. He wasn't on the practice squad, he was on the 53-man roster. And yes, if Hoyer is out, Daniels will be the backup for Sunday.
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I'd love to find a way to get Brees here for a year or 2, while they groom a QB they take in the 1st/2nd round this year or next.
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If the Texans can somehow win one of their two remaining contests they are virtually guaranteed to win the division regardless of what the Colts do. It is not a certainty but it would require a highly unlikely sequence of events that will I believe clarify themselves after next week's games.
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I'd love to find a way to get Brees here for a year or 2, while they groom a QB they take in the 1st/2nd round this year or next.
If you take the view that he won't return to NO after they cut him (as happens with so many older FA's) and then go team by team to look at both the QB situation as well as the style of offense played, I think the Texans have a real shot at Brees
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I wouldn't mind giving Stafford a look see.
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If the Texans can somehow win one of their two remaining contests they are virtually guaranteed to win the division regardless of what the Colts do. It is not a certainty but it would require a highly unlikely sequence of events that will I believe clarify themselves after next week's games.
With the bizarre machinations of NFL tie-breakers, the Texans clinch the division with a win on Sunday and either: (1) a Colts loss; or (b) a Broncos loss. Yasee, if the Broncos lose, it reduces the Colts' strength of opponent factor (or whateverthefuck they call it) such they they cannot overtake the Texans in that category. As the Texans and Colts are tied in every other tie-breaker prior to strength of opponent - it makes all the difference.
The Colts go to Miami on Sunday and the Broncos host the Bengals on Monday night. So, the Texans have a good chance of getting what they need in either or both of those games. Of course, the Texans don't do it easy, which means they'll probably lose to the fucking Titans and have to beat the Jags on the final weekend.
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According to this...and results from later in the day, a CIN win tomorrow night will result in the division title. If DEN wins, then it goes to next week. I'm not exactly sure how the tiebreakers work there.
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/UPDATED-Texans-can-lock-up-playoff-bid-if/6017248a-b87e-41e0-bf42-ca0862a23d4c
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According to this...and results from later in the day, a CIN win tomorrow night will result in the division title. If DEN wins, then it goes to next week. I'm not exactly sure how the tiebreakers work there.
It's here (http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures):
Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in common games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss
Strength of Victory can't change next week as it involves unique wins, IIRC, and the last round are all games within the division.
Strength of Schedule is next; if it's based on the going-in SOS, then the Texans have it from the Colts by a pube (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25066031/2015-nfl-strength-of-schedule-steelers-at-no-1-falcons-at-no-32). If it's based on the results of the season...fuck knows.
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If I'm reading this (http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/14810/texans-will-clinch-division-title-if-the-bengals-beat-the-broncos) right, the Texans have already locked up Strength of Schedule, so we just need to match the Colts' result to clinch. Or just win. Or if the Bengals beat the Broncos tonight.
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Bill O'Brien has done a really good job with this team considering the QB situation and the poor start.
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The Texans have clinched at least a tie for "strength of victory". For the Colts to tie in that, a lot has to happen, starting with tonight:
Tonight:
Broncos beat the Bengals
Next Week:
Jags beat the Texans
Colts beat the Titans
Dolphins beat Patriots
Broncos beat Chargers
Falcons beat Saints
Bengals beat Ravens
Bills beat Jets
If all of those things happen, the Colts and Texans will be tied in SOV. It will then go to "Strength of Schedule", which means the Colts need:
Raiders beat Chiefs
Steelers beat Browns
If all of that happens, they'd be tied in SOS and it would go to "Combined Points Ranking within Conference", where you look at where the respective teams rank in points allowed and points scored within the conference. The Texans are well ahead of the Colts on that one, which means that the Colts would have to win next week by scoring something like 80 points while shutting out the Titans, AND the Bills would have to win by scoring only like 6 points.
Again...ALL of those things have to happen for the Colts. So while they're not mathematically eliminated, a lot of crazy shit has to happen for them.
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Again...ALL of those things have to happen for the Colts. So while they're not mathematically eliminated, a lot of crazy shit has to happen for them.
So, I'm putting $50 on the Colts then.
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Outside of Brady, the list of likely AFC playoff starting QBs is borderline comical.
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So, I'm putting $50 on the Colts then.
SFN
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Outside of Brady, the list of likely AFC playoff starting QBs is borderline comical.
I think that this is the second week that all of the Texas QB alumni have won.
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The Texans have clinched at least a tie for "strength of victory". For the Colts to tie in that, a lot has to happen, starting with tonight:
Tonight:
Broncos beat the Bengals
Well, that happened, so the Colts only have 9 more victories to count on to take down the Texans. At least next week "means something" (sort of) since I'm making the trek down from Dallas to see it.
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Well, according to an email from the Texans, my playoff tickets just shipped, which was an event that was supposed to occur after clinching a playoff spot. Might as well up that $50 bet to $100.
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Well, according to an email from the Texans, my playoff tickets just shipped, which was an event that was supposed to occur after clinching a playoff spot. Might as well up that $50 bet to $100.
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Triple it if Greg Abbott congratulates them.
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Well, according to an email from the Texans, my playoff tickets just shipped, which was an event that was supposed to occur after clinching a playoff spot. Might as well up that $50 bet to $100.
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I did too. Talked to the account rep - apparently they aren't charging cards until official clinch but have to send out the tickets now due to logistics.
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I did too. Talked to the account rep - apparently they aren't charging cards until official clinch but have to send out the tickets now due to logistics.
Got mine today. Hopefully they don't end up like my 2004 World Series tickets.
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Hoyer to start. I'd prefer Weeden. Yes, I know that's weird to read; you should try typing it.
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I got to give the Texans credit for hanging around.
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The Jags suck, and they were on,y eliminated two weeks ago. Hoyer is not a good QB. The defense may carry this team past the Chiefs, but surely no further.
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The Texans have a punchers chance vs every AFC playoff team not named the Patriots.
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The Texans have a punchers chance vs every AFC playoff team not named the Patriots.
If Brady is properly hurt, you can remove the exemption of the Patriots.
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So, it's the Chiefs. They schooled us on opening day: taking an over-enthusiasm for the pass rush and jamming it up our asses to the tune of 27 points in the 1st half. Of course, they score zero...zilch...nada in the 2nd half, so who the fuck knows.
As Navin said, we have a puncher's chance against anyone. The defense has to keep the other team off the board, though, because we aren't going to score many points off Hoyer's weak and inaccurate arm. Also, Duane Brown...ugh!
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Got mine today. Hopefully they don't end up like my 2004 World Series tickets.
Got mine last week too - got billed for them today.
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So: no win today, worse draft pick, tougher schedule next year. Just good enough to ensure mediocrity.
It's becoming clear that there is no way to escape the NFL gravity well except to draft a good QB. Nobody will ever sell you a good QB, and none will ever show up on the free agent market. If you can't identify QB talent, or if you can't maneuver your way into a position to draft one that you can identify, you're doomed to a life of irrelevance.
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I know it's no surprise but fuck, that's about the worst QB performance I've seen in the playoffs.
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That's the sort of QB performance that gets the coach fired.
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That's the sort of QB performance that gets the coach fired.
I doubt that it was the QB who wasted a down at the 2-yard line by bringing in JJ Watt in the wildcat.
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That's the sort of QB performance that gets the coach fired.
You're new as a Texans fan, I gather.
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I doubt that it was the QB who wasted a down at the 2-yard line by bringing in JJ Watt in the wildcat.
OutSTANding call. I liked it even more than the Chris Brown halfback pass that Lickey came up with some years ago.
Sadly, the Texans were soundly outclassed this year (and, probably, for all time) in the fuckwit play category by the Colts and their fake punt or whatever that was.
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That was the Texans Letterman jacket of playoff performances.
Also, Fuck Kansas City.
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You're new as a Texans fan, I gather.
Actually, I figured it was a very Texans thing to do. Rearranging the coaching deckchairs, so to speak.
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OutSTANding call. I liked it even more than the Chris Brown halfback pass that Lickey came up with some years ago.
Sadly, the Texans were soundly outclassed this year (and, probably, for all time) in the fuckwit play category by the Colts and their fake punt or whatever that was.
I didn't mind that play so much. It was a goal line formation, you just ran your two biggest defensive linemen out here in an attempt to move the pile three feet. Now if Watt would have tried to throw to Wilfork...that would have been awesome. Positively Kubiakian.
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I didn't mind that play so much. It was a goal line formation, you just ran your two biggest defensive linemen out here in an attempt to move the pile three feet. Now if Watt would have tried to throw to Wilfork...that would have been awesome. Positively Kubiakian.
I didn't mind it either. Now the pass thrown on the next down is another thing.
I cannot see how Hoyer starts another game in Houston. He was absolutely awful this season. I think he was responsible for 3 wins...that's it. Other than that it was a combo of Mallett, Yates and Weeden. He was far worse at getting the team moving than the other QBs...including Mallet.
The carousel needs to end. They need to have Kap, RGIII or Brees here next year, along with Savage and a draft pick in camp.
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Gotta say I was totally shocked that Weeden didn't start the second half.
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Man, he was just terrible Saturday. Isn't that turd signed for another year?
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Gotta say I was totally shocked that Weeden didn't start the second half.
Not me. OB had made up his mind that he was never pulling Hoyer from a game again. Ever. They were going down the drain together.
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Man, he was just terrible Saturday. Isn't that turd signed for another year?
He's signed for another year, but that doesn't mean they have to keep him for another year. They could trade him, like they did with Fitzpatrick, or simply release him.
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Not me. OB had made up his mind that he was never pulling Hoyer from a game again. Ever. They were going down the drain together.
Then he needs to go, That was the worst QB play I've seen in a ling time.
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Then he needs to go, That was the worst QB play I've seen in a ling time.
In general, I think OB is a decent football coach. But he either has a huge blind spot at QB or he has a massive god complex thinking he can win with anyone. We all know it's not gonna happen, but McNair needs to tell him "look, I know you haven't liked any of the QBs coming out of college the last few years, but you'd better learn to like one, damn quick." If he can't find a QB that "fits his system", he needs to change his fucking system. Wishful thinking, I know.
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He's signed for another year, but that doesn't mean they have to keep him for another year. They could trade him, like they did with Fitzpatrick, or simply release him.
Don't worry guys, they've isolated the problem and fixed it
Houston Texans fire three coaches (http://www.click2houston.com/sports/houston-texans-fire-three-coaches-report-says)
Seriously though, what do we have to do to get decent special teams some day.
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Don't worry guys, they've isolated the problem and fixed it
Houston Texans fire three coaches (http://www.click2houston.com/sports/houston-texans-fire-three-coaches-report-says)
Seriously though, what do we have to do to get decent special teams some day.
Special teams has been garbage since Day One with this organization. It's mindboggling that one organization can be so bad at one aspect for basically the entirety of its existence.
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Don't worry guys, they've isolated the problem and fixed it
Houston Texans fire three coaches (http://www.click2houston.com/sports/houston-texans-fire-three-coaches-report-says)
Seriously though, what do we have to do to get decent special teams some day.
I'd like to see them go after Thomas McGaughey.
So is there any chance that Brees or Rivers or some halfway decent older QB becomes available?
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What about the kid at Penn State he coached before he got the Texans gig?
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I think one of the many teams drafting before the Texans will nab him. I'm hoping the #4 pick gets him.
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I'd like to see them go after Thomas McGaughey.
So is there any chance that Brees or Rivers or some halfway decent older QB becomes available?
Expect Brees to sign a contract extension with the Saints.
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Don't worry guys, they've isolated the problem and fixed it
Houston Texans fire three coaches (http://www.click2houston.com/sports/houston-texans-fire-three-coaches-report-says)
Seriously though, what do we have to do to get decent special teams some day.
Clearly the wide receivers were the big problem with the offense this year.
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I'd like to see them go after Thomas McGaughey.
So is there any chance that Brees or Rivers or some halfway decent older QB becomes available?
If I were a betting man, and I'm not, betting that is, I'd bet they'll have either RGIII or Manziel starting next season.
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If I were a betting man, and I'm not, betting that is, I'd bet they'll have either RGIII or Manziel starting next season.
This franchise keeps coming up with new and interesting ways to try and get me to quit being a fan.
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If someone can cure Johnny football of his affluenza, he'd be worth a look.
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If someone can cure Johnny football of his affluenza, he'd be worth a look.
No, he wouldn't. He's a poor man's RGIII on his best day.
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I think one of the many teams drafting before the Texans will nab him. I'm hoping the #4 pick gets him.
If they need to trade up to draft a guy they want, they need to trade up. They can't keep saying "oh well, someone else took the guy we wanted".
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If they need to trade up to draft a guy they want, they need to trade up. They can't keep saying "oh well, someone else took the guy we wanted".
According to this mock draft, neither of us would get a QB in the first round.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2606744-nfl-draft-2016-updated-order-and-1st-round-mock-draft-predictions
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According to this mock draft, neither of us would get a QB in the first round.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2606744-nfl-draft-2016-updated-order-and-1st-round-mock-draft-predictions
The Cowboys don't need to, unless they think Romo is done.
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The Cowboys don't need to, unless they think Romo is done.
I don't think he is done, but the timer is about to ding. Plus, it would keep JJ from wanting Manziel.
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I don't think he is done, but the timer is about to ding. Plus, it would keep JJ from wanting Manziel.
Sure, at some point Romo will have to be replaced. But it's not as an immediate need as the Texans'. The Texans have had garbage at QB for three years running now. The Cowboys can afford to wait, at least a little while longer, for "their guy". The Texans can't.
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Would O'Brien really start a non-traditional QB like RG3 or Manziel? Hard to see him playing anyone but a traditional pocket passer -- a guy who looks the part, so to speak.
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If someone can cure Johnny football of his affluenza, he'd be worth a look.
I think I'd rather have Hoyer after he'd been on a 3-day bender.
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If I were a betting man, and I'm not, betting that is, I'd bet they'll have either RGIII or Manziel starting next season.
One of these is not like the other. RGIII is a legit QB, or at least he was...not sure now after the injury. I wonder if he could be more of a pocket guy then in the past...
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legit QB
I'm not sure the Texans use the same criteria for choosing a quarterback that you do.
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I'm not sure the Texans use the same criteria for choosing a quarterback that you do.
Clearly not having used Fitz, Hoyer and Mallet as their selections for training camp over the last 2 years.
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Reports now saying that the Texans are going to release Foster.
Moving in the right direction as always.
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...and reporting that they intend to fix the QB situation - also right direction. Kap will not be part of that though given Chip Kelly's statement today.
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Reports now saying that the Texans are going to release Foster.
Moving in the right direction as always.
Why wouldn't they? This was expected even before the injury. Restructure? Sure. They're going to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 mil in cap room this offseason, maybe they can spend it wisely for once?
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They're going to have somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 mil in cap room this offseason, maybe they can spend it wisely for once?
Do you know something about Rick Smith getting fired that we don't?
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He's probably the single biggest problem, closely followed by the subservient necks who'll keep buying tickets regardless of the garbage he offers.
...aking News! Limey has foregone his season tickets and PSL Bre...
With Mrs Limey being a Realtor, she was pretty much effed at attending games. We considered keeping the tickets and selling them but, considering that over a three year period when trying we had failed to sell our tickets - through either StubHub or the NFL Exchange - on all-but one occasion, we didn't see this as viable. The one time we did sell our tickets, it was at a massive loss.
There was no way to justify keeping the tickets even knowing that we're pissing away the PSL. Basically, it was an expensive lesson to learn, but throwing good money after bad is always the wrong call.
The Texans sent me a questionnaire as to why we were binning the tickets. There were numerous options, but I went with "Play on the Field". Everything came back to this as a proximate cause*.
* "Bad/Greedy Owner" or "Dumbshit Playcalling" were not options.
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...aking News! Limey has foregone his season tickets and PSL Bre...
With Mrs Limey being a Realtor, she was pretty much effed at attending games. We considered keeping the tickets and selling them but, considering that over a three year period when trying we had failed to sell our tickets - through either StubHub or the NFL Exchange - on all-but one occasion, we didn't see this as viable. The one time we did sell our tickets, it was at a massive loss.
There was no way to justify keeping the tickets even knowing that we're pissing away the PSL. Basically, it was an expensive lesson to learn, but throwing good money after bad is always the wrong call.
The Texans sent me a questionnaire as to why we were binning the tickets. There were numerous options, but I went with "Play on the Field". Everything came back to this as a proximate cause*.
* "Bad/Greedy Owner" or "Dumbshit Playcalling" were not options.
Did you sell your PSLs?
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Or did you have the pseudo PSLs in the club level? If I remember correctly, club level seats require that PSLs AND season tickets must be renewed annually, which basically doubles the cost of the tickets (at least). It's been a while since I went though all that though prior to buying my PSLs, so I could be mistaken.
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I had non-Club, 300-level seats. Section 354, Row H, seats 1 and 2. I chose those because they offered the best combination of sight lines and reasonable (relatively) PSL cost. The individual tickets themselves weren't expensive, $60 or so, maybe less. Limey, I think you had Club seats, am I correct? If so, those are many times more expensive than what I had. I mention that because I am certain that I could have made money by keeping my seats and selling the pair every week. They were inexpensive enough to begin with to get away with that. I'll bet I could have sold the entire season to a scalper at a profit even before everyone knew just what flavor of shitty the team would be any given year.
But, as I may have mentioned, I got to the point where I wanted no financial relationship whatsoever with that motherfucking shitstain of an owner, even if I were the one making the money for a change. Perhaps that strolls casually from stubbornness into stupidity but I have no regrets.
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These motherfuckers are already laying the ground work to hold the city hostage for a new stadium or 100s of millions in upgardes.
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/Can-NRG-Stadium-keep-up-with-new-stadiums-6812777.php
NRG Stadium is facing a mid-life crisis of sorts.
As the $449 million multi-use facility prepares to host its second Super Bowl in 2017, a new wave of glitzy, billion-dollar stadiums is pushing it toward the back of the line as a venue for the premier event.
Since NRG's debut in 2002, six NFL stadiums have been built across the country, each at a greater cost than Houston's facility. The final price for stadiums in northern California, Dallas and the New York area exceeded $1 billion, and two more billion-dollar venues are under construction - Minneapolis, which will be completed this summer, followed by Atlanta in 2017.
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It is kind of a shitty, sterile stadium.
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It is kind of a shitty, sterile stadium.
you misspelled team.
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I love how these stupid necks plan to keep up with the Jonses and keep NRG on the bleeding edge by - wait for it - adding wi-fi.
Why, that's just the sort of inventive, out of the box thinking that keeps the team among the conference elite year after year!
I wonder how much they'll charge for a day's worth of wi-fi.
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I love how these stupid necks plan to keep up with the Jonses and keep NRG on the bleeding edge by - wait for it - adding wi-fi.
Why, that's just the sort of inventive, out of the box thinking that keeps the team among the conference elite year after year!
I wonder how much they'll charge for a day's worth of wi-fi.
Wifi was added at some point last year, and it seemed to work reasonably well. Of course, I never had any problems with AT&T in the stadium either. For years, McNair and the Texans argued that it wasn't technologically possible to have wifi in the stadium, despite the fact that every other stadium has it. The NFL mandated they add it as a condition of getting the Super Bowl next year, and all of the sudden, they "found" the technology.
I personally think NRG is a great stadium. The sightlines are good, the concourses are wide and easy to navigate, plenty of restrooms. I'm not sure what else anyone would want, unless you're the type that demands a 16" flat screen at your seat so you can watch the game on TV. You want to see a horribly designed, horribly constructed, awful place to see a football game, go to Miami.
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Or did you have the pseudo PSLs in the club level? If I remember correctly, club level seats require that PSLs AND season tickets must be renewed annually, which basically doubles the cost of the tickets (at least). It's been a while since I went though all that though prior to buying my PSLs, so I could be mistaken.
This was my predicament. Club level seats require season (and playoff) ticket purchase, or they're forfeited. They're expensive seats, so they were always going to be hard to sell.
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This was my predicament. Club level seats require season (and playoff) ticket purchase, or they're forfeited. They're expensive seats, so they were always going to be hard to sell.
All PSLs require that. So you just forfeited your PSLs back to the Texans, rather than sell them?
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I was up in Minneapolis at the time of the playoff game between Seattle and Minnesota. Had ample opportunity to see that new expensive stadium they are building up there. What an ugly viking sailing ship. I am not a fan of postmodern architecture.
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All PSLs require that. So you just forfeited your PSLs back to the Texans, rather than sell them?
Wasn't aware that selling them was an option.
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I was up in Minneapolis at the time of the playoff game between Seattle and Minnesota. Had ample opportunity to see that new expensive stadium they are building up there. What an ugly viking sailing ship. I am not a fan of postmodern architecture.
I think it looks great. I'm a fan of architecture.
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Wasn't aware that selling them was an option.
Of course it is. You own the PSLs, you can transfer them or sell them to whomever you like:
https://texans.seasonticketrights.com/Permanent-Seat-Licenses/Permanent-Seat-Licenses.aspx
Right now, looks the asking price for club level seats are $3,000-$10,000 per seat. But you could have sold them for anything you can get for them rather than forfeiting them back to the Texans.
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I find it borderline unethical that the Texans' ticket office did not inform you of your right to sell the PSLs. They are an asset that you legally own and have rights of transfer (Texans charge $200 or so fee because they can).
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I find it borderline unethical that the Texans' ticket office did not inform you of your right to sell the PSLs. They are an asset that you legally own and have rights of transfer (Texans charge $200 or so fee because they can).
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The Texans have made that very clear to me on many occasions. It's not a secret, buying and selling of PSLs is identified prominently on the Texans' ticket webpage, and I find it extremely odd that a PSL holder would not know that.
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So what happened to the "forfeited " PSL? Does it just cease to exist?
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So what happened to the "forfeited " PSL? Does it just cease to exist?
It goes back to the Texans where they can sell it to someone else.
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Wasn't aware that selling them was an option.
Have you contacted the ticket office? Most likely they will reinstate your account and give you the opportunity to sell the PSL.
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Of course it is. You own the PSLs, you can transfer them or sell them to whomever you like:
https://texans.seasonticketrights.com/Permanent-Seat-Licenses/Permanent-Seat-Licenses.aspx
Right now, looks the asking price for club level seats are $3,000-$10,000 per seat. But you could have sold them for anything you can get for them rather than forfeiting them back to the Texans.
There may not be a better way to buy and sell PSLs, but the Texans PSL marketplace is ridiculously frustrating. The sellers are not obligated to sell, even if one bids the asking price. A potential buyer can waste his time for months bidding on seats that the listing owner has no intention of selling unless he or she gets an offer too insane to pass up and/or they prefer a new custom bedazzled grill or whatever at the moment. Obviously, since it is a reasonable assumption that the bidder is a Texans fan, the entire experience is really quite fitting and should be considered valuable preparation time for the OTPHJs the Texans organization so values providing to its fans.
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There may not be a better way to buy and sell PSLs, but the Texans PSL marketplace is ridiculously frustrating. The sellers are not obligated to sell, even if one bids the asking price. A potential buyer can waste his time for months bidding on seats that the listing owner has no intention of selling unless he or she gets an offer too insane to pass up and/or they prefer a new custom bedazzled grill or whatever at the moment. Obviously, since it is a reasonable assumption that the bidder is a Texans fan, the entire experience is really quite fitting and should be considered valuable preparation time for the OTPHJs the Texans organization so values providing to its fans.
I think it's the only way to buy and sell PSLs. You have to go through the Texans to transfer ownership. And I'm sure it's frustrating. But given the choice of simply ceding your PSLs back to the Texans or getting a few thousand bucks for them, I'm not sure why you wouldn't opt for the latter.