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Title: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on March 28, 2014, 08:57:20 pm
You ready... here you go...
RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Contest Rules:
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1.  Whatever the rules are, BudGirl (your RFTL judge and jury for 2014) can change them any time for any reason, including whim.  The purpose of this rule is not to promote chaos, but to preempt wailing, moaning, whining, and griping.  Particularly griping.
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2.  A Pick is determine the number of wins.  Picks below 60 should not win, even if they’re right they’re wrong.  They will be accepted and you can be a winner but no one will like you.
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3.  All picks are in this thread.  Picks out of this thread are DQ’d unless BudGirl changes the rules.
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4.  One pick per person.
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5. If there are gaps in the high picks, say, between 95 and 162, the low pick gets the gaps down to the next highest pick.  This does not work in reverse, i.e., above 95.  We all win if the Astros lose fewer than the low pick.
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6. The grand prize, of course, is an Astros cap of BudGirl's choosing from Astros.com.  BudGirl is allowed to make rulings on prize disputes that may arise... namely, she gets to tell you to go to hell if you whine that you should get the prize!
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7.  NO PICKS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE OFFICIAL COMMENCEMENT TIME, WHICH IN THIS CIRCULAR DEFINITION WILL BE ON OR ABOUT 9:00 p.m., Friday, March 28th and close on Tuesday, April 1st at the first pitch of the Astros home opener against the New York Yankees and the last opening day for Derek Jeter (the Official Commencement Time).  Anyone who posts before then will be DQ'd.  No picks will be accepted after the first pitch on Opening Day.  Or thereabouts.
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8.  Ron Brand will assist in the verification of picks.  He will also assist in any additional matters determined by BudGirl.
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9.  If there is no correct pick BudGirl and Ron Brand will find a winner by a method of their choosing.
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10.  Here’s the list of past winners:

2013 - Fynn
2012 – Ebby Calvin
2011 – no winner
2010 - Lurch
2009 - Ron Brand
2008 - EasTexAstro
2007 - no winner
2006  - Fredia
2005  - Drew Corleone
2004  - Andyzipp
2003  - Jim R
2002  - no winner
2001  - Neil T.
2000  - no winner
1999  - Astrobabe

Good Luck and may be the best fan win!
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: subnuclear on March 28, 2014, 09:02:15 pm
67
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Post by: Ebby Calvin on March 28, 2014, 09:06:38 pm
63
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Post by: austro on March 28, 2014, 09:08:18 pm
66
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Post by: Ron Brand on March 28, 2014, 09:10:34 pm
64
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on March 28, 2014, 09:12:01 pm
you guys are full of optimism.  bunch of ninnys. 
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Post by: Ron Brand on March 28, 2014, 09:14:27 pm
I've got optimism in one hand, and the desire for a cool hat in the other...
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Post by: HudsonHawk on March 28, 2014, 09:19:59 pm
70
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Post by: austro on March 28, 2014, 09:25:50 pm
you guys are full of optimism.  bunch of ninnys. 

I'm +15 over last year. That seems pretty optimistic. I'd probably be more optimistic if I had some cookies.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Nate Colbert on March 28, 2014, 09:38:44 pm
60
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Post by: chuck on March 28, 2014, 10:14:00 pm
58

I remember when the even if they’re right they’re wrong threshold was 80. Or was it 90? Anyway, change with the changing times I guess.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Bench on March 28, 2014, 10:20:54 pm
72
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Post by: Reuben on March 28, 2014, 10:22:33 pm
69. Huh huhhuh.
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Post by: believin on March 28, 2014, 10:26:13 pm
71
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Bench on March 28, 2014, 10:31:29 pm
Hooray for all us cool kids on a Friday night. I think we're all winners no matter how few games the Astros win.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: EasTexAstro on March 28, 2014, 10:33:59 pm
87
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Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on March 28, 2014, 10:35:14 pm
68
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: chuck on March 28, 2014, 10:46:25 pm
87

I can't figure out whether this is your guess or the number of Shiners it would take to make someone think they'd win 87.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 28, 2014, 11:29:25 pm
5965 Enthusiasm! A 14 game improvement will be a good thing.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: EasTexAstro on March 28, 2014, 11:29:44 pm
I can't figure out whether this is your guess or the number of Shiners it would take to make someone think they'd win 87.

The same number I pick every year. It allows the better picks to be chosen by someone else.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 28, 2014, 11:35:50 pm
The same number I pick every year. It allows the better picks to be chosen by someone else.

Always the gentleman.
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Post by: Fynn on March 28, 2014, 11:44:51 pm
55
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Post by: Jacksonian on March 28, 2014, 11:48:23 pm
65
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Post by: drew corleone on March 28, 2014, 11:52:46 pm
73
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Mr. Happy on March 29, 2014, 03:59:55 am
65

That number was already taken by me.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Ty in Tampa on March 29, 2014, 07:35:52 am
62
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Post by: mrpink on March 29, 2014, 08:07:36 am
72
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Post by: Outlawscotty on March 29, 2014, 09:14:00 am
61
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Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on March 29, 2014, 09:18:31 am
74.
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Post by: jaklewein on March 29, 2014, 09:40:40 am
75. Go Stros!
Title: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: geezerdonk on March 29, 2014, 09:49:29 am
54
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Post by: jmontessi on March 29, 2014, 10:16:48 am
77
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Post by: Jose Cruz III on March 29, 2014, 10:55:09 am
76 for the 3rd.
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Post by: hostros7 on March 29, 2014, 12:04:27 pm
78
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Post by: Craig on March 29, 2014, 12:37:06 pm
59
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Post by: Aussie Astro on March 29, 2014, 06:11:55 pm
57
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on March 29, 2014, 06:27:08 pm
You ready... here you go...
RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Contest Rules:
________________________________________
1.  Whatever the rules are, BudGirl (your RFTL judge and jury for 2014) can change them any time for any reason, including whim.  The purpose of this rule is not to promote chaos, but to preempt wailing, moaning, whining, and griping.  Particularly griping.
________________________________________
2.  A Pick is determine the number of wins.  Picks below 60 should not win, even if they’re right they’re wrong.  They will be accepted and you can be a winner but no one will like you.
________________________________________
3.  All picks are in this thread.  Picks out of this thread are DQ’d unless BudGirl changes the rules.
________________________________________
4.  One pick per person.
________________________________________
5. If there are gaps in the high picks, say, between 95 and 162, the low pick gets the gaps down to the next highest pick.  This does not work in reverse, i.e., above 95.  We all win if the Astros lose fewer than the low pick.
________________________________________
6. The grand prize, of course, is an Astros cap of BudGirl's choosing from Astros.com.  BudGirl is allowed to make rulings on prize disputes that may arise... namely, she gets to tell you to go to hell if you whine that you should get the prize!
________________________________________
7.  NO PICKS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE OFFICIAL COMMENCEMENT TIME, WHICH IN THIS CIRCULAR DEFINITION WILL BE ON OR ABOUT 9:00 p.m., Friday, March 28th and close on Tuesday, April 1st at the first pitch of the Astros home opener against the New York Yankees and the last opening day for Derek Jeter (the Official Commencement Time).  Anyone who posts before then will be DQ'd.  No picks will be accepted after the first pitch on Opening Day.  Or thereabouts.
________________________________________
8.  Ron Brand will assist in the verification of picks.  He will also assist in any additional matters determined by BudGirl.
________________________________________
9.  If there is no correct pick BudGirl and Ron Brand will find a winner by a method of their choosing.
________________________________________
10.  Here’s the list of past winners:

2013 - Fynn
2012 – Ebby Calvin
2011 – no winner
2010 - Lurch
2009 - Ron Brand
2008 - EasTexAstro
2007 - no winner
2006  - Fredia
2005  - Drew Corleone
2004  - Andyzipp
2003  - Jim R
2002  - no winner
2001  - Neil T.
2000  - no winner
1999  - Astrobabe

Good Luck and may be the best fan win!

Too many rules. I'm sitting this year out in protest.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: NeilT on March 29, 2014, 10:36:37 pm
93 wins.  you can figure out the losses.
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Post by: Nate in IA on March 30, 2014, 09:11:23 pm
81 wins
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Post by: tbone421998 on March 31, 2014, 07:01:35 am
79
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Post by: David in Jackson on March 31, 2014, 10:21:45 am
I don't think 56 is taken.  Hoping I don't win.
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Post by: Navin R Johnson on March 31, 2014, 10:37:52 am
64
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Post by: BUWebguy on March 31, 2014, 10:53:14 am
80
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Post by: Jacksonian on March 31, 2014, 11:33:27 am
Since I can't have 65 I'll take 82.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on March 31, 2014, 11:51:24 am
64

you are welcome to try another number.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on March 31, 2014, 11:52:35 am
Here's the current picks.

55   Fynn
56   David in Jackson
57   Aussie Astro
57   geezerdonk
58   chuck
59   Craig
60   Nate Colbert
61   Outlawscotty
62   Ty in Tampa
63   Ebby Calvin
64   Ron Brand
65   Mr. Happy
66   austro
67   subnuclear
68   Astros Fan in Big D
69   Rueben
70   HudsonHawk
71   believin
72   Bench
72   mrpink
73   drew corleon
74   Knoxbanedood
75   jaklewein
76   Jose Cruz III
77   jmontessi
78   hostros7
79   tbone421998
80   BUWebguy
81   Nate in IA
82   Jacksonian
87   EasTexAstro
93   Neil T
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: T. J. on March 31, 2014, 11:55:09 am
83.  It could happen.
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Post by: astrosfan76 on March 31, 2014, 11:58:07 am
84.  Should have checked sooner.
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Post by: JimR on March 31, 2014, 12:58:04 pm
85
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Post by: VirtualBob on April 01, 2014, 06:53:16 am
86
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Post by: David in Jackson on April 01, 2014, 08:36:23 am
It's a Process.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: VirtualBob on April 01, 2014, 10:19:11 am
Too many rules. I'm sitting this year out in protest.
WFW
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on April 01, 2014, 10:19:59 am
WFW

You have a great chance of winning this year because of that response.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: das on April 01, 2014, 01:18:37 pm
I guess I'm 88 then.  Look away for a moment and see what happens?  Peacock will vulture in for the first of his 30 wins tonight, I guess.
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Post by: JackAstro on April 01, 2014, 01:38:57 pm
159. I figure they're bound to lose a few here and there, just on unlucky bounces and the such.
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Post by: Fredia on April 02, 2014, 09:21:56 am
88
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Post by: Bench on April 02, 2014, 10:09:34 am
62

This was Mattress Mac's pick as well.  If the Astros win 63 you'll get $6,300 of furniture refunded. (http://www.galleryfurniture.com/baseball-promo-1?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook%20Landing%20Page&utm_campaign=Facebook%20Baseball%20Promo%201)
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Uncle Charlie on September 08, 2014, 04:17:01 am
This was Mattress Mac's pick as well.  If the Astros win 63 you'll get $6,300 of furniture refunded. (http://www.galleryfurniture.com/baseball-promo-1?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook%20Landing%20Page&utm_campaign=Facebook%20Baseball%20Promo%201)

Mac lost (or actually probably won from a purely business perspective).  Anyway, he says $4 MM being returned to customers.  Any of you participate?
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on September 08, 2014, 11:54:09 am
Mac lost (or actually probably won from a purely business perspective).  Anyway, he says $4 MM being returned to customers.  Any of you participate?

I knew I would win, but I didn't want to pony up the ante.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: drew corleone on September 11, 2014, 01:24:54 pm
Wulaw Horn, who posts on Shaggy and used to post here, won $8400 in furniture. He's a good dude that I've known for a number of years, so I was happy to see it.

Also, Fangraphs apparently has the Astros projected at 72.5 and 89.5, and I hope that rounds up. I really want to be the first two-time RFTL winner!
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on October 08, 2014, 08:05:35 am
I did not forget.  Mr. Hudson Hawk is the winner of the Race for the Lid XVI.  I will offer you your choice of caps via PM.  Congratulations!
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 08, 2014, 09:23:53 am
I did not forget.  Mr. Hudson Hawk is the winner of the Race for the Lid XVI.  I will offer you your choice of caps via PM.  Congratulations!

Well done, HH!!! Thanks again, BG, for doing this again this season.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: NeilT on October 08, 2014, 09:25:58 am
There's only one cap that's right for HH:

http://www.click2houston.com/news/fans-swamp-academy-as-astros-bun-b-release-limited-edition-astros-cap/28361290
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 08, 2014, 09:30:10 am
Alas...I've already made my selection.  A nice little cotton replica to replace the one I left at the IHOP in Midland a last year. 

What I'm really wonderin, however, is what is the status of the Derek Bell card?
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2014, 09:33:59 am
Alas...I've already made my selection.  A nice little cotton replica to replace the one I left at the IHOP in Midland a last year. 

If you'd left it on your head, you'd still have it.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: NeilT on October 08, 2014, 09:34:07 am
JimR had it last, I think.  I may have located another though.
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Post by: Bench on October 08, 2014, 09:37:21 am
There's only one cap that's right for HH:

http://www.click2houston.com/news/fans-swamp-academy-as-astros-bun-b-release-limited-edition-astros-cap/28361290


That is a good looking cap.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BizidyDizidy on October 08, 2014, 09:37:59 am
Why the fuck are you eating at IHOP?
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 08, 2014, 10:11:56 am
Why the fuck are you eating at IHOP?

That was going to be my question.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: chuck on October 08, 2014, 10:13:09 am
Why the fuck are you eating at IHOP?

Chili's is closed in the morning.
Title: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: geezerdonk on October 08, 2014, 10:17:10 am
To see the one-legged waitress.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Ron Brand on October 08, 2014, 10:28:28 am
What I'm really wonderin, however, is what is the status of the Derek Bell card?

I'm pretty sure Ebby Calvin has it, unless he mailed it to Fynn. I passed it on.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 08, 2014, 11:23:25 am
Why the fuck are you eating at IHOP?

And just what the hell is wrong with eating flapjacks?
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Bench on October 08, 2014, 11:42:56 am
Why the fuck are you eating at IHOP?

Midland has really grown up since the last time you were there.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BudGirl on October 08, 2014, 11:44:05 am
And just what the hell is wrong with eating flapjacks?

Nothing, but his probably need wheat germ or some "fancy" ingredient. 
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Bench on October 08, 2014, 11:55:00 am
Nothing, but his probably need wheat germ or some "fancy" ingredient. 

And lots of salt. 
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 08, 2014, 12:01:36 pm
I'm pretty sure Ebby Calvin has it, unless he mailed it to Fynn. I passed it on.

Nope.  Never seen it.  I won a cap a year or so ago but never the card.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Ron Brand on October 08, 2014, 12:56:31 pm
I brought it, along with the other things I handed out, to SF the year after I won. I know it was passed around for people to see but that's all I remember about it.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 08, 2014, 01:06:07 pm
I brought it, along with the other things I handed out, to SF the year after I won. I know it was passed around for people to see but that's all I remember about it.

And how have the Astros done since you necks managed to lose the card? Hmmm??  Thanks.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: das on October 08, 2014, 01:29:45 pm
And just what the hell is wrong with eating flapjacks?

My question exactly.  I don't understand elitist foodies at all.  Food that tastes good, whether layered and complex or simple peasant food, is still good.

The CTO of a big French engineering firm was in town a couple of years ago and while there, blathered on and on about the superiority of french food.  He and I agreed to grab some lunch but were tight on time.  I took him out to my favorite hot dog stand here in DC and ordered up a couple of chili, cheese and onion dogs for each of us and we ate them on the roof of the building.  Afterwards, he said, "thank you, that was one of the best meals I've had in months" and talked about it to anyone who would listen for the rest of the week.  Good food is good food.

Bad food is bad food.  Dodger Dogs, I'm looking at you...
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: JimR on October 08, 2014, 02:01:42 pm
JimR had it last, I think.  I may have located another though.

not me. I sent it on.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 08, 2014, 02:19:05 pm
My question exactly.  I don't understand elitist foodies at all.  Food that tastes good, whether layered and complex or simple peasant food, is still good.

Exactly.  It's 5:00am, I've got to get out in the field, and I'm hungry.  Yet there are two types of critics; one who says "I can't believe you didn't fly to California and drop $4,000 at some Michelin starred bistro" and the other who says "I can't believe you eat food that wasn't cooked in the back of a van."  It was breakfast people...I LIKE pancakes. 
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2014, 02:59:47 pm
Nothing, but his probably need wheat germ or some "fancy" ingredient. 

Gluten-free.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2014, 03:01:36 pm
My question exactly.  I don't understand elitist foodies at all.  Food that tastes good, whether layered and complex or simple peasant food, is still good.


I had lunch at Punk's (http://punkssimplesouthernfood.com/) today.  How I'm still up and moving after that CFS I have no idea.  Awesome in its simplicity and delivery.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 08, 2014, 03:03:01 pm

I had lunch at Punk's (http://punkssimplesouthernfood.com/) today.  How I'm still up and moving after that CFS I have no idea.  Awesome in its simplicity and delivery.

How much is a lunch CFS there?
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2014, 03:05:15 pm
How much is a lunch CFS there?

$21.  Comes with horseradish mash (not the green beans per the website photo (http://punkssimplesouthernfood.com/upload/gallery/Punks-3.jpg)).  They don't appear to have lunch menu, it's the same menu all day except for brunch or happy hour).
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: das on October 08, 2014, 03:11:49 pm
$21.  Comes with horseradish mash (not the green beans per the website photo (http://punkssimplesouthernfood.com/upload/gallery/Punks-3.jpg)).  They don't appear to have lunch menu, it's the same menu all day except for brunch or happy hour).

Holy cow. I just sat mesmerized by the scrolling pics in that link. If I do indeed make it down there for opening day in April, I gotta go to Punks. DC is just a hair too far north to get in on much good southern cooking.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2014, 03:17:31 pm
Holy cow. I just sat mesmerized by the scrolling pics in that link. If I do indeed make it down there for opening day in April, I gotta go to Punks. DC is just a hair too far north to get in on much good southern cooking.

It's got a full bar and some cool (southern-themed) cocktails too.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: NeilT on October 08, 2014, 03:32:25 pm
It's got a full bar and some cool (southern-themed) cocktails too.

A couple of weeks ago we went to The Barbecue Inn on the corner of Crosstimbers and Yale.  It's been there for a long time, and is circa 1965 sourthern cooking.  The barbecue isn't important, but we went for the fried chicken, which is pretty amazing.  I suspect they have a chicken fried steak that will cause me to go back as soon as I get to Punk's.

Beer, but no bar.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: BizidyDizidy on October 08, 2014, 08:22:15 pm
It always did strike me as strange that the only two restaurants in the world are IHOP and the French Laundry
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: NeilT on October 08, 2014, 08:29:19 pm
Exactly.  It's 5:00am, I've got to get out in the field, and I'm hungry.  Yet there are two types of critics; one who says "I can't believe you didn't fly to California and drop $4,000 at some Michelin starred bistro" and the other who says "I can't believe you eat food that wasn't cooked in the back of a van."  It was breakfast people...I LIKE pancakes. 

They've got better coffee at IHop than either of those other places.
Title: Re: RACE FOR THE LID XVI
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 08, 2014, 09:30:51 pm
It always did strike me as strange that the only two restaurants in the world are IHOP and the French Laundry

Well, there's a Waffle House, but it's in Odessa.