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Title: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 02:46:55 pm
Checking in from Arrowhead. LOT'S of Texans fans here. Hope springs eternal.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: chuck on October 20, 2013, 02:51:03 pm
Checking in from Arrowhead. LOT'S of Texans fans here. Hope springs eternal.

Where are your seats?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 20, 2013, 02:55:27 pm
Have a great time. I hope Keenum does well.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: BudGirl on October 20, 2013, 03:45:52 pm
Are you wearing red?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 04:50:50 pm
I'm in the lower bowl of the end zone. The Texans bench is to my right and Hopkins caught that TD right in front of me. I'm wearing blue, as are most of the other Texans fans.

Keenum makes throws Schaub simply can't. The Texans secondary is simply awful. Kubiak is in typical idiot form today. He will get badly out coached at halftime.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 20, 2013, 04:55:11 pm
Keenum see things Schaub doesn't see.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: BudGirl on October 20, 2013, 04:56:51 pm
It will probably be very obvious by the end of the game if Kubiak has any idea how to win.  Sucks that Foster got hurt.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 05:17:28 pm
It will probably be very obvious by the end of the game if Kubiak has any idea how to win.  Sucks that Foster got hurt.

How does McNair not fire Kubiak in the this game after that horseshitplay calling?  How many pictures of McNair and donkeys does Marciano have?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: subnuclear on October 20, 2013, 05:40:55 pm
Reverse fake or something. (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2013/10/alex-smiths-fake-worked-okay.html)
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: The Spleen on October 20, 2013, 05:55:43 pm
Keenum see things Schaub doesn't see.

He sees dead coaches?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2013, 05:56:03 pm
Reverse fake or something. (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2013/10/alex-smiths-fake-worked-okay.html)

Well, it's pretty easy to understand their confusion. There are invisible players everywhere you look, so it's got to be hard to figure out which ones to cover. In fact, this probably explains Kareem Jackson's performance most weeks.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 20, 2013, 06:36:49 pm
Keenum acquitted himself well.  Hopefully this will close the book on Schaub's time as a starter. 

Kubiak always gives up on possessions at the end of the first half, then seems to change his mind when it's too late.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 06:55:45 pm
Keenum acquitted himself well.  Hopefully this will close the book on Schaub's time as a starter. 

Kubiak always gives up on possessions at the end of the first half, then seems to change his mind when it's too late.

Kubiak was absolutely fucking schooled in football today. It's mindboggling how bad of a football coach he is compared to the rest of the league.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 20, 2013, 07:03:35 pm
Kubiak was absolutely fucking schooled in football today. It's mindboggling how bad of a football coach he is compared to the rest of the league.

+1
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: chuck on October 20, 2013, 07:10:27 pm
Kubiak was absolutely fucking schooled in football today. It's mindboggling how bad of a football coach he is compared to the rest of the league.

The Texans have no time outs (which is another story) yet Reid throws the ball two or three times that last drive. This is the sort of coach that massively outwits Kubiak. Mull on that for a while.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 08:01:44 pm
The Texans have no time outs (which is another story) yet Reid throws the ball two or three times that last drive. This is the sort of coach that massively outwits Kubiak. Mull on that for a while.

Not to mention the coach that's up by 1, fourth and goal and elects to *not* make it a touchdown game. And yet he's Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, Amos Alonzo Stagg and Knute fucking Rockne combined compared to Kubiak.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 08:05:01 pm
On a positive note, Kansas City is a great place to visit for a road game. The Chiefs front office folks were great, the fans were great to us, the stadium is nice for beng of that era. The barbecue was also passable.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: hostros7 on October 20, 2013, 09:11:02 pm
F kubiak.  That stupid motherlover lost the game
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: chuck on October 20, 2013, 09:15:35 pm
The Colts just finished the half with a perfectly competent and purposeful 2-minute drill that went for a touchdown.

Kubiak takes the ball every time he wins a toss but time and time again is perfectly content to waste final possessions in the first half. If there is a better encapsulation of his being a total motherfucking idiot then I would love to know about it.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: chuck on October 20, 2013, 09:32:19 pm
Bob McNair disagrees (https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/statuses/392109988442669056) with the SNS consensus.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2013, 09:55:23 pm
Bob McNair disagrees (https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/statuses/392109988442669056) with the SNS consensus.

Doesn't sound like it's only the SnS consensus.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 20, 2013, 10:05:59 pm
Bob McNair disagrees (https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/statuses/392109988442669056) with the SNS consensus.

Then McNair is the stupidest motherfucker in the history of organized sports. If he's that fucking stupid, he deserves Kubiak and the misery it brings. Anyone who has ever seen a football game, not coached but just watched, knew what KC was doing, but did Kubiak?  Never dawned on him. Even the Chiefs fans "why don't the Texans keep someone in the backfield for pass protection?  Is this Derek Newton's first game?  If you guys never fielded a kick, you'd start with better field position..."
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 21, 2013, 05:39:18 am
Who makes the decision to only activate 2 running backs?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 21, 2013, 06:24:06 am
He's the anti-Jerry Jones.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: drew corleone on October 21, 2013, 10:06:43 am
Did you tailgate with the Mojo crew?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 21, 2013, 10:24:49 am
Did you tailgate with the Mojo crew?

Don't know the Mojo Crew. We tailgated with the Traveling Texans. There were about 500 in our group I'd guess, but the Chiefs guy who helped organize said there were about 1,500 "organized" Texans fans. I'd guess there were probably 2,000 at least, counting the ones who were on their own. The KC Live party downtown Saturday night was probably 90% Texans fans.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: drew corleone on October 21, 2013, 11:09:07 am
Gotcha. A guy I tailgate with for UT games runs his own Texans Mojo tailgate and I saw they were up in KC with what seemed to be a ton of Texans fans. He's a big dude named Pat, who likes to shotgun Miller Lite.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: hostros7 on October 21, 2013, 02:36:22 pm
The Texans cut Sam Montgomery, Willie Jefferson, and Cierre Wood for violating team rules at the hotel in KC.  I bet Marciano was the hall monitor. 

Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: austro on October 21, 2013, 07:03:59 pm
The Texans cut Sam Montgomery, Willie Jefferson, and Cierre Wood for violating team rules at the hotel in KC.  I bet Marciano was the hall monitor. 

There's our answer. Somehow we need to tempt/trick Kubiak into violating team rules.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: cougar on October 21, 2013, 08:36:40 pm
There's our answer. Somehow we need to tempt/trick Kubiak into violating team rules.

Assuming the Texans ever win a game again, hand him a victory cigar.  That's apparently enough to get the boot.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 21, 2013, 10:29:46 pm
Assuming the Texans ever win a game again, hand him a victory cigar.  That's apparently enough to get the boot.

Riiiight...because when three known potheads tell you they had all snuck out after curfew and gathered in a hotel bathroom to just smoke some Black and Milds, there's no reason to doubt their explanation.  At least none of them fell asleep in the drive thru at Jack In The Box.  Again. 
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: strosrays on October 21, 2013, 10:54:54 pm
He's a big dude named Pat, who likes to shotgun Miller Lite.

Appreciate the descriptiveness, but that doesn't really narrow things down much.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MusicMan on October 22, 2013, 09:17:57 am
Riiiight...because when three known potheads tell you they had all snuck out after curfew and gathered in a hotel bathroom to just smoke some Black and Milds, there's no reason to doubt their explanation.  At least none of them fell asleep in the drive thru at Jack In The Box.  Again.  

In a world where there were any accountability, Rick Smith would now be on the chopping block.  Montgomery was an asinine draft pick - a known "character issue" who didn't fit the Texans' defense, either.

(Forgot to mention the 6th-rounder that the Texans decided to draft, cut, and is now wrecking shit for the Patriots.)
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 22, 2013, 10:06:23 am
Keenum acquitted himself well.  Hopefully this will close the book on Schaub's time as a starter. 

Mrs Limey heard on the news that Kubiak is planning to start Schaub again after the bye week.

I didn't see much of the game, but Keenum look infinitely more poised and comfortable out there than Schaub.  He looked like he was playing catch.  He also knew where the pocket was, where the pressure was coming from* and was able to move around to buy time for a receiver to get open.  It was like nothing we've ever seen from a Texans' QB.

And Kubiak wants to put the cowardly statue back in.


* This was assuming there was some effort at pass protection.  They seemed to give up on this aspect of the game in the 4th quarter.  Anyone else think that Kubes was trying to make Keenum look bad so that he can justify putting his buddy back in?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MusicMan on October 22, 2013, 10:21:14 am
* This was assuming there was some effort at pass protection.  They seemed to give up on this aspect of the game in the 4th quarter.  Anyone else think that Kubes was trying to make Keenum look bad so that he can justify putting his buddy back in?

No, the Chiefs figured out that Keenum wasn't making hot reads, so they overloaded the line.  I'll give ubiak the benefit of the doubt and say that he was in a bind, as he couldn't keep an RB in to block as Tate was playing with broken ribs.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: BizidyDizidy on October 22, 2013, 10:24:51 am
No, the Chiefs figured out that Keenum wasn't making hot reads, so they overloaded the line.  I'll give ubiak the benefit of the doubt and say that he was in a bind, as he couldn't keep an RB in to block as Tate was playing with broken ribs.

The fullback can't block?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MusicMan on October 22, 2013, 10:33:47 am
The fullback can't block?

Would they have any packages where Jones had practiced in the RB spot?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: hostros7 on October 22, 2013, 10:41:12 am
It's important to note that the Texans were 2-3 and getting their teeth kicked in at home against the lowly Rams before Schaub, Manning, Daniels, Cushing, Foster and Tate were injured.  We should all remember this when McNair waffles at the end of the year and said that Kubes got the team to play so hard and battlefight despite all the injuries and adversity. 
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 01:01:29 pm
No, the Chiefs figured out that Keenum wasn't making hot reads, so they overloaded the line.  I'll give ubiak the benefit of the doubt and say that he was in a bind, as he couldn't keep an RB in to block as Tate was playing with broken ribs.

I don't.  He had guys to block.  If nothing else, he could have kept a TE in to block.  He simply didn't recognize what was going on or didn't have any idea how to fix it.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 01:03:35 pm
Mrs Limey heard on the news that Kubiak is planning to start Schaub again after the bye week.

I didn't see much of the game, but Keenum look infinitely more poised and comfortable out there than Schaub.  He looked like he was playing catch.  He also knew where the pocket was, where the pressure was coming from* and was able to move around to buy time for a receiver to get open.  It was like nothing we've ever seen from a Texans' QB.

And Kubiak wants to put the cowardly statue back in.

When asked directly, Kubiak said "Matt's our starting QB, but we'll continue to evaluate our options".  All the talking heads agreed that it was just coachspeak, and there is no way in hell he sticks Schaub back out there against Indy, unless something with Keenum goes to shit.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 22, 2013, 01:19:20 pm
When asked directly, Kubiak said "Matt's our starting QB, but we'll continue to evaluate our options".  All the talking heads agreed that it was just coachspeak, and there is no way in hell he sticks Schaub back out there against Indy, unless something with Keenum goes to shit.


You have more faith in him than me.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 01:43:13 pm

You have more faith in him than me.

Oh I don't have any faith in Kubiak.  I'm just repeating the general interpretation of his remarks.

And I have tremendous faith in you.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 22, 2013, 01:57:27 pm
Oh I don't have any faith in Kubiak.  

I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Bench on October 22, 2013, 02:02:00 pm
Oh I don't have any faith in Kubiak.  

I have plenty of faith in Kubiak to keep doing what he's always been doing.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 22, 2013, 02:11:45 pm
I find your lack of faith disturbing.

What...I said I have tremendous faith in Limey. At least he was able to recognize "they're hitting our QB because we can't seem to get them blocked" and reasoned "we should probably try more blockers". Kubiak never thought on that level.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 22, 2013, 02:21:42 pm
What...I said I have tremendous faith in Limey. At least he was able to recognize "they're hitting our QB because we can't seem to get them blocked" and reasoned "we should probably try more blockers". Kubiak never thought on that level.

Should've linked it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Ee02WLxGk)
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 22, 2013, 03:03:21 pm
What...I said I have tremendous faith in Limey. At least he was able to recognize "they're hitting our QB because we can't seem to get them blocked" and reasoned "we should probably try more blockers". Kubiak never thought on that level.

I think "not blocking" doesn't come close to describing the gaping holes in the O-Line that I saw.  Hali, in particular, seemed to be invisible to them.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 22, 2013, 03:38:35 pm
If Kubiak runs Schaub out there vs Indy, Matt is going to get booed relentlessly for every incompletion.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: BudGirl on October 22, 2013, 03:42:37 pm
While I prefer Keenum to Schaub, there is no way Kubiak isn't going to start Schaub if he is healthy.  He is technically your #1 QB. 
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 22, 2013, 03:47:35 pm
If Kubiak runs Schaub out there vs Indy, Matt is going to get booed relentlessly for every incompletion.

I am torn between wanting to see more of Keenum (NTTAWWT) and thinking that, by persisting with Schaub and drawing the ire of the crowd, Kubiak will be booking his ticket out of town.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: chuck on October 22, 2013, 03:49:15 pm
If Kubiak runs Schaub out there vs Indy, Matt is going to get booed relentlessly for every incompletion.

I imagine Robert Mathis will take care of that unpleasantness in relatively short order.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 22, 2013, 03:56:49 pm
While I prefer Keenum to Schaub, there is no way Kubiak isn't going to start Schaub if he is healthy.  He is technically your #1 QB. 

Sure there is, he even gave himself some wiggle room with his statements on Monday. 
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MusicMan on October 28, 2013, 11:06:25 am
It appears that Kubiak's stupidity continues to know no bounds.

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 10m
Sources: #Texans QB Matt Schaub has torn ankle ligaments that he’ll be attempting to play through. He may not be “right” all season.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MusicMan on October 28, 2013, 11:38:17 am
Nope... bullet, dodged.

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Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26 57s
Case Keenum will start on Sunday.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Bench on October 28, 2013, 11:49:46 am
"Matt's health is fine. It's a decision based on what I saw take place last week with Case." Kubiak on QB decision

That must have been difficult for him. 
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:05:02 pm
"Matt's health is fine. It's a decision based on what I saw take place last week with Case." Kubiak on QB decision

That must have been difficult for him. 

Per the Lackey Rag (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/10/case-keenum-will-start-for-texans-vs-colts/?cmpid=hpfc):

Quote
“(Schaub) is obviously disappointed,” Kubiak said. “I wouldn’t expect anything else. 
“I know it’s very difficult on him. It’s very difficult on me, too.”

I presume they hugged.  Maybe shed some tears.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Bench on October 28, 2013, 01:12:38 pm
Per the Lackey Rag (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/10/case-keenum-will-start-for-texans-vs-colts/?cmpid=hpfc):

I presume they hugged.  Maybe shed some tears.

It's pretty much the ending to Old Yeller. 
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MikeyBoy on October 28, 2013, 01:17:28 pm
Per the Lackey Rag (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/10/case-keenum-will-start-for-texans-vs-colts/?cmpid=hpfc):

I presume they hugged.  Maybe shed some tears.

Something is not adding up with the info being shared by Kubiak. I was told by someone close to the situation that I trust and has been spot on accurate about many things that Schaub is hurt and likely has played his last down of football for the Texans. Also, my wife's best friend (i know, I know 31 flavors...it's very serious...blah..blah) saw Matt and his wife at Aria in Vegas two nights last week, which seems odd to me.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:18:10 pm
It's pretty much the ending to Old Yeller. 

I saw somewhere (maybe in here) that there's a way to cut him after June 2014 and save some money.  He'll end up on another team, as a backup, in the same way that the Top Gear guys always have a backup car in the form of a VW Beetle or a Morris Marina.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Randy Watson on October 28, 2013, 01:26:18 pm
I saw somewhere (maybe in here) that there's a way to cut him after June 2014 and save some money.  He'll end up on another team, as a backup, in the same way that the Top Gear guys always have a backup car in the form of a VW Beetle or a Morris Marina.

His salary is $14.5 million for 2014.

If we cut him before June 1, 2014, there is a $10 million dollar cap hit for 2014.  So that means by cutting him prior to June 1, you have an extra $4.5 million.

If we cut him after June 1, there is a $4 million cap hit for 2014 and a $6 million cap hit for 2015.  So you have an extra $10 million for 2014.

I think they cut him prior to June 1 and just take all the medicine in 2014. If Case is good enough, the cap won't be an issue because we can apply the $4.5 million in savings to address other needs.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:35:53 pm
Something is not adding up with the info being shared by Kubiak. I was told by someone close to the situation that I trust and has been spot on accurate about many things that Schaub is hurt and likely has played his last down of football for the Texans. Also, my wife's best friend (i know, I know 31 flavors...it's very serious...blah..blah) saw Matt and his wife at Aria in Vegas two nights last week, which seems odd to me.

He went to put $100 on black, missed and hit red.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 28, 2013, 01:41:18 pm
I saw somewhere (maybe in here) that there's a way to cut him after June 2014 and save some money.  He'll end up on another team, as a backup, in the same way that the Top Gear guys always have a backup car in the form of a VW Beetle or a Morris Marina.

Why would Schaub being in Vegas during his week off seem odd to you?
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 28, 2013, 01:43:09 pm
He went to put $100 on black, missed and hit red.

And the dealer booed him off the table.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 28, 2013, 01:58:52 pm
Why would Schaub being in Vegas during his week off seem odd to you?

Because he's miserably boring?

He did stay at the wrong hotel, of course.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: hostros7 on October 28, 2013, 02:06:52 pm
Because he's miserably boring?

He did stay at the wrong hotel, of course.

To be fair, kubiak made the reservation, and Schaub wasn't allowed to change it
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MusicMan on October 28, 2013, 02:14:03 pm
Why would Schaub being in Vegas during his week off seem odd to you?

The whole team was supposed to go, but they missed their window.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: MikeyBoy on October 28, 2013, 02:36:04 pm
Why would Schaub being in Vegas during his week off seem odd to you?

I didn't realize they had the week off. I assumed (without actually checking) that they had practice last week.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: homer on October 28, 2013, 02:45:32 pm
Why would Schaub being in Vegas during his week off seem odd to you?

It was odd to Kubiak because he is saving his vacations until he retires.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Limey on October 28, 2013, 02:46:46 pm
I didn't realize they had the week off. I assumed (without actually checking) that they had practice last week.

Why on earth would they need to practice?

Eh?  Oh.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 28, 2013, 03:15:03 pm
It was odd to Kubiak because he is saving his vacations until he retires.

Solid.
Title: Re: Texans-Chiefs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 28, 2013, 09:50:20 pm
It was odd to Kubiak because he is saving his vacations until he retires.

Killin' it, homer!