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Title: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 03:05:10 pm
So I'm watching football, flipping back and forth between Seattle/Indy and KC/TN. Why in the name of all that's holy can't the Texans have anyone...even Ryan Fitzpatrick...anyone other that Matt Schaub?  They'd be simply unbeatable.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 06, 2013, 03:37:22 pm
So I'm watching football, flipping back and forth between Seattle/Indy and KC/TN. Why in the name of all that's holy can't the Texans have anyone...even Ryan Fitzpatrick...anyone other that Matt Schaub?  They'd be simply unbeatable.

I'm guessing you know the answer to this question.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: BudGirl on October 06, 2013, 03:37:31 pm
Even Romo?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 06, 2013, 03:46:53 pm
Even Romo?

Even Tony Romo.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 04:16:54 pm
I'm guessing you know the answer to this question.

Yes, it was rhetorical. Just lamenting how one player is costing them multiple Super Bowls.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 04:19:09 pm
Even Romo?

Any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 06, 2013, 05:31:25 pm
Even Romo?
Yes!
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 06, 2013, 07:34:01 pm
If you didn't see that coming, then you haven't been watching...
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: remy on October 06, 2013, 07:34:28 pm
That didn't take long.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 06, 2013, 07:34:46 pm
Matt Schaub breaks a record previously held by Peyton Manning and John Elway. I'm so sick of him.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: BudGirl on October 06, 2013, 07:36:49 pm
Peyton has some pretty cool records.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 07:37:37 pm
And if not for the fact that his pick in San Diego wasn't run back, it would be 9 straight games. He's a caricature of an NFL QB.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 06, 2013, 07:42:00 pm
And while we're having fun, ths Tate-Foster tandem is idiotic.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 07:45:11 pm
Time for Bullock to earn his job. 

What? Oh.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 07:46:09 pm
Time for Bullock to earn his job. 

What? Oh.

For the record, that was posted before he actually missed the kick.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 06, 2013, 07:46:30 pm
Is there a better kicker available?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 07:47:46 pm
If you didn't see that coming, you haven't been watching.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 06, 2013, 07:47:57 pm
Schaub and Bullock are both squarely on Kubes at this point.  He doesn't show his other skill players such patience/forgiveness
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 07:55:59 pm
If the other team has 3rd and 8 or more, it's pretty much an automatic first down.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 06, 2013, 07:56:56 pm
Schaub and Bullock are both squarely on Kubes at this point.  He doesn't show his other skill players such patience/forgiveness

He doesn't fucking have to.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 07:58:02 pm
And if not for the fact that his pick in San Diego wasn't run back, it would be 9 straight games. He's a caricature of an NFL QB.

Can that be right?   4 straight games is a new record.  To get to 9 he had to have 4 both sides of the Chargers failed effort.  Right?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 08:00:15 pm
Can that be right?   4 straight games is a new record.  To get to 9 he had to have 4 both sides of the Chargers failed effort.  Right?

Maybe it was 8 then. Either way, this is not a new phenomenon with Schaub.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 08:00:21 pm
Can that be right?   4 straight games is a new record.  To get to 9 he had to have 4 both sides of the Chargers failed effort.  Right?

Do you remember the end of last season?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 08:04:24 pm
Counting last week's overtime that went nearly the full 15 minutes, that's now 4 quarters of play in which the offense has scored ZERO points and given away 17.  

How can this be allowed to continue?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 08:06:22 pm
Do you remember the end of last season?

Hours of therapy.  Many, many fucking hours of therapy. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 06, 2013, 08:22:21 pm
He's fucking weak mentally too.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 06, 2013, 08:22:49 pm
No one could be worse at this point.  He's just handing the ball off and dinking and dunking anyways
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 08:23:35 pm
No one could be worse at this point.  He's just handing the ball off and dinking and dunking anyways

Do no harm.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: jbm on October 06, 2013, 08:24:04 pm
Will he ever make a change?  There has to be some point where even that dumbass sees the light.  
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 08:27:52 pm
Will he ever make a change?  There has to be some point where even that dumbass sees the light.  

He will give TJ the ball now - down 21 points against one of the leagie's best defenses - and say after the game that he did no better than Schaub. 

I'm over the bench Schaub thing.  I'm all about FIRE KUBIAK!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 08:30:24 pm
The dodgers-braves game is exciting.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 08:31:35 pm
He will give TJ the ball now - down 21 points against one of the leagie's best defenses - and say after the game that he did no better than Schaub. 

I'm over the bench Schaub thing.  I'm all about FIRE KUBIAK!!!!!!!!!

Kubiak is oblivious. This is the first football game he's ever seen. He's not going to make any meaningful change
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 08:32:43 pm
I can hear Schaub now..."we have to get better".
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2013, 08:35:22 pm
Time for a screen
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 08:39:31 pm
I can hear Schaub now..."we have to get better".

[Handraise] I have a suggestion...
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 08:39:59 pm
Time for a screen

Over the screen?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 08:42:28 pm
Al Michaels is forgetting OT against Seattle.  It's close to 75 minutes of clock time since this offense scored a single, measly, fucking point.  Also, now -24 points in that time.  
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 06, 2013, 08:48:19 pm
Did anyone else take Cris Collinsworth's advice and feel their breasts for lumps?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 08:51:10 pm
It's fascinating watching a team quit on its coach in real time.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 08:54:38 pm
In Schaub's last 14 quarters, he's thrown 4 TD to the opponents and 5 to his own team.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 06, 2013, 09:11:59 pm
The score is 49ers 7, Texans 3, Schaub -14
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 09:19:17 pm
Can we have Chris Collingsworth take over as head coach?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 06, 2013, 09:22:05 pm
Can we have Chris Collingsworth take over as head coach?

At this point I'd be happy with Michele Tafoya.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 09:28:04 pm
Kappernick is 4-13 for 45 yards.

He is the better QB in the game.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 06, 2013, 09:29:34 pm
Kappernick is 4-13 for 45 yards.

He is the better QB in the game.

Kubiak said the defense was his concern at half.  I know it's coach speak deflection, but, at some point, fuck you, buddy.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 06, 2013, 09:36:18 pm
Astros fan.  Longhorns fan.  Texans fan.

Yaaaaaaaay.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 09:38:51 pm
Kubiak said the defense was his concern at half.  I know it's coach speak deflection, but, at some point, fuck you, buddy.

They should kick his ass.  Literally.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 06, 2013, 09:42:07 pm
This is fascinating.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 06, 2013, 09:44:51 pm
This is fascinating.

If you're David carradine, it's downright exhilarating
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 09:45:29 pm
Kubiak said the defense was his concern at half.  I know it's coach speak deflection, but, at some point, fuck you, buddy.

I missed that. It's gobsmacking.  No wonder this team is quitting on him live on TV. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 09:54:34 pm
This is fascinating.

Seriously. You can see the team quitting in real time.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 09:57:37 pm
Seriously. You can see the team quitting in real time.

Kubiak's got bigger problems. Like what's his excuse for Schaub this week.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 06, 2013, 10:00:27 pm
I would fire Marciano this week for the lone reason that I firmly believe he failed to inform the returner that you are awarded the 20 if the ball is kneeled in the end zone.  It took the up man to finally break the news to wood on the last play. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 10:01:58 pm
I would fire Marciano this week for the lone reason that I firmly believe he failed to inform the returner that you are awarded the 20 if the ball is kneeled in the end zone.  It took the up man to finally break the news to wood on the last play. 

Right, because having the worst unit in the league year after year isn't  enough
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2013, 10:03:51 pm
Kubiak's got bigger problems. Like what's his excuse for Schaub this week.

This is now on McNair.  He knows what needs to be done. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 06, 2013, 10:10:19 pm
This is now on McNair.  He knows what needs to be done. 

He won't do it.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 06, 2013, 10:24:53 pm
He won't do it.

Tonight my wife said "you know, say what you will about Bud Adams, but he wouldn't put up with this shit".
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: The Spleen on October 06, 2013, 11:48:43 pm
Tonight my wife said "you know, say what you will about Bud Adams, but he wouldn't put up with this shit".

Say what you like about the tenets of being a total asshole, dude, at least it's an ethos.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 07, 2013, 09:02:17 am
Tonight my wife said "you know, say what you will about Bud Adams, but he wouldn't put up with this shit".

After totalling 3 points in the last 7 quarters of football, he'd likely order the firing of the offensive coordinator.  Who is that, by the way?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 07, 2013, 09:34:12 am
Like everyone else, I'm wondering...when will the accountability come?

Really curious about what Rick Smith is thinking/feeling.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 07, 2013, 11:43:18 am
A colleague told me this morning that the 49ers' (W)hitner was interviewed after the game.  He said that their entire strategy was to stop the run and force Schaub to throw.  He said that he knew they would win from the get-go, because Schaub looked terrified.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 07, 2013, 11:44:15 am
And yet Bill Barnwell continues to insist that it's just a statistical oddity.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 07, 2013, 12:14:24 pm
And yet Bill Barnwell continues to insist that it's just a statistical oddity.

Well it's odd, and it can be charted with stats...
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Lefty on October 07, 2013, 08:16:14 pm
After totalling 3 points in the last 7 quarters of football, he'd likely order the firing of the offensive coordinator.  Who is that, by the way?
Kevin Gilbride? 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2013, 08:39:01 am
The Matt Schaub radio spot for BMW still uses his voice, they just removed the part where he says "Matt Schaub here...".

Maybe he's a reverse-tinkerbell:  if we think negative thoughts about him, he'll just disappear.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2013, 09:18:50 am
The Case for Keenum (http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/10-07-13-free-case-keenum-makes-sense-if-not-cents-stubbornly-sticking-with-schaub-killing-kubiak-texans-season/)
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 08, 2013, 12:19:45 pm
And the hits keep on coming: Daniels out 4-6 weeks with a broken fibula (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9791594/owen-daniels-houston-texans-4-6-weeks).
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 08, 2013, 12:49:19 pm
And the hits keep on coming: Daniels out 4-6 weeks with a broken fibula (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9791594/owen-daniels-houston-texans-4-6-weeks).


I guess I picked the wrong year to give up not having season tickets.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 09, 2013, 10:53:29 am
Schaub accosted by fans at his house. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/houston-texans-quarterback-matt-schaub-reportedly-accosted-house-033149227--nfl.html)
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 09, 2013, 10:57:00 am
Schaub accosted by fans at his house. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/houston-texans-quarterback-matt-schaub-reportedly-accosted-house-033149227--nfl.html)

Police: no, he wasn't. (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/10/houston-police-say-no-angry-fans-were-at-schaubs-home/)
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 09, 2013, 11:25:20 am
Police: no, he wasn't. (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/10/houston-police-say-no-angry-fans-were-at-schaubs-home/)

Way to intercept my sympathy.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 09, 2013, 12:34:00 pm
HPD reports:

Contrary to some reports, there was not a group of "angry fans" outside the Schaub residence on Monday.#hounews

Police were not called to the home. No other information to release at this time. #hounews


If HPD wasn't called to the house and were not there how do they know there weren't a couple of dbags yelling at the Schaub's?

Has Matt addressed the situation with media yet?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: remy on October 09, 2013, 03:18:45 pm
Has Matt addressed the situation with media yet?

He tried to phone in and give his account, but the call was intercepted and returned for a touchdown.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 09, 2013, 03:37:20 pm
HPD reports:

Contrary to some reports, there was not a group of "angry fans" outside the Schaub residence on Monday.#hounews

Police were not called to the home. No other information to release at this time. #hounews


If HPD wasn't called to the house and were not there how do they know there weren't a couple of dbags yelling at the Schaub's?

Has Matt addressed the situation with media yet?

Berman: Matt Schaub on incident w/fan: "There really wasn't an incident. No one came to the door. Did not hear anyone yell obscenities."
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 09, 2013, 03:51:44 pm
He tried to phone in and give his account, but the call was intercepted and returned for a touchdown.

SFN
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Randy Watson on October 10, 2013, 04:23:43 pm
Astros fan.  Longhorns fan.  Texans fan.

Yaaaaaaaay.

Same
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: mrpink on October 10, 2013, 08:53:13 pm
Astros fan.  Longhorns fan.  Texans fan.

Yaaaaaaaay.

As a Texas State fan I have no sympathy for you.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: remy on October 10, 2013, 11:00:02 pm
Astros fan.  Longhorns fan.  Texans fan.

Yaaaaaaaay.

Astros fan.  Baylor fan.  Texans fan.

I'm still batting .333.  Don't fuck this up, Bears.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 11, 2013, 08:23:09 am
Question for the Baylor fans:

Is the offense called the Prayer Raid?

And if not, WHY THE HECK NOT?!?!
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 11, 2013, 09:07:39 am
Question for the Baylor fans:

Is the offense called the Prayer Raid?

And if not, WHY THE HECK NOT?!?!

SFN
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 11, 2013, 09:32:13 am
As a Texas State fan I have no sympathy for you.

Mrs Limey is a Longhorn by birth and TSU by affiliation.  Also, Crystal Palace are 1-6 (in American parlance) to open the Premier League season.  We bought Texans' season tickets this year, and our seats are behind the only other guy in the World, besides Kubiak, who thinks that Schaub is an elite QB.

#FML  #FWP
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 12:37:47 pm
Now 8 quarters with a grand total of 3 points scored. I believe that's the fifth turnover in the red zone.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 12:51:58 pm
Another first and goal field goal. Yay.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 13, 2013, 12:52:27 pm
Arian Foster is pretty good, it's a shame to he his efforts go for so little.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 13, 2013, 01:04:29 pm
Overall, the team looks worse week by week.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 01:05:26 pm
They are manhandling the Rams and are getting blown out. But Bob McNair doesn't give a shit.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2013, 01:18:46 pm
This is awful. Empty seats and no energy in the stadium. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 01:19:11 pm
Going into the half only three field goals down.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 13, 2013, 01:20:36 pm
This is awful. Empty seats and no energy in the stadium. 

Empty seats will be the only thing that registers with McNair.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 01:28:50 pm
Empty seats will be the only thing that registers with McNair.

I doubt even that matters if the empty seats do not equate to unsold tickets.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 01:38:03 pm
First down at midfield. Averaging 9 yards a carry on the ground. I know, let's throw little 2yard dump passes. Attaboy Kubes.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 13, 2013, 01:43:55 pm
I wish the Texans had Bradford.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 01:47:04 pm
I wish the Texans had Bradford.

I wish they had Jeff Fisher. The gap in coaching ability between Kubiak and everyone else is astonishing.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 01:49:15 pm
This is absolutely crazy. How the entire coaching staff isn't fired ten minutes after this game I have no idea. Of course they won't be because McNair is a fucking pussy just like his motherfucking head coach.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 13, 2013, 01:49:19 pm
Who didn't see that coming?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 01:50:02 pm
Now the special teams giving up touchdowns on kick *returns*. They certainly are something special.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 01:55:35 pm
Huddle up, boys, take your time.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2013, 01:57:33 pm
Crowd is cheering Schaub getting hurt.  Classless, but this is what Kubiak has sewn.  Giant cheer for TJ. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 01:59:09 pm
Huddle up, boys, take your time.

Sad when you're playing one of worst teams in the league and your so far down that you give up half way through the third quarter.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2013, 02:01:24 pm
Sad when you're playing one of worst teams in the league and your so far down that you give up half way through the third quarter.

This D gave up when Schaub was named the starter. And I can't blame them.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: BudGirl on October 13, 2013, 02:05:21 pm
This D gave up when Schaub was named the starter. And I can't blame them.

Bullshit.  They are paid to play a game.  If that is true they deserve what just happened. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 13, 2013, 02:06:30 pm
No there's some delicious irony.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:07:38 pm
Four trips into the red zone, you get 6 points and give up 7.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 02:08:52 pm
Four trips into the red zone, you get 6 points and give up 7.

Gary Kubiak, quarterback guru and offensive genius.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2013, 02:09:27 pm
Bullshit.  They are paid to play a game.  If that is true they deserve what just happened. 

Professionals still follow the guidance of their leader.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:10:46 pm
Will one of the Texans tackle Martin in the end zone.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 02:13:02 pm
Will one of the Texans tackle Martin in the end zone.

You're asking a Texans special teamer to make a tackle. That's a pretty tall order.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 13, 2013, 02:18:47 pm
At some point, doesn't even McNair get embarrassed by this?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:22:06 pm
At some point, doesn't even McNair get embarrassed by this?

Why would he?  The game was a sellout.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:35:59 pm
The best thing about California is I can watch the Texans step on their dicks and still have time to enjoy most of the day.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 02:36:04 pm
Why would he?  The game was a sellout.

You are going to see the Chiefs score 50 points next week.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2013, 02:37:43 pm
The Browns are trying to tank, and are still clearly better than the Texans.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:41:46 pm
You are going to see the Chiefs score 50 points next week.

The Texans have a shot against Jacksonville at home, but I can't see them beating anyone else. I'll be shocked if they win more than one more game.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:45:40 pm
You are going to see the Chiefs score 50 points next week.

And I'll be seeing it all right, as I'll be at the game my first road game. At least the party Sat night will be fun.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 13, 2013, 02:46:12 pm
If Schaub's injury forces him to miss time, people are going to learn the cold truth about why Yates lives on the bench.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 02:51:12 pm
If Schaub's injury forces him to miss time, people are going to learn the cold truth about why Yates lives on the bench.

People would rather lose with Yates than with Schaub.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: BudGirl on October 13, 2013, 02:54:57 pm
And that is why inmates shouldn't run the asylum.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 02:59:02 pm
And I'll be seeing it all right, as I'll be at the game my first road game. At least the party Sat night will be fun.

Kansas City is a severely under-appreciated town. I really like it there.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 02:59:47 pm
People would rather lose with Yates than with Schaub.

And I'd rather lose with Keenum than with Yates.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 03:01:51 pm
And I'd rather lose with Keenum than with Yates.

I would too. But Keenum ain't gonna play. No way, no how. If Schaub some how goes out for an extended period, the Texans will acquire a veteran to back up Yates. But look for Schaub to start next week.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2013, 03:02:35 pm
Kansas City is a severely under-appreciated town. I really like it there.

Never been. But will be there next weekend. Should be fun, apart from the game, of course.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: hostros7 on October 13, 2013, 03:36:28 pm
Kansas City is a severely under-appreciated town. I really like it there.

Any food/drink advice?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 03:50:52 pm
Any food/drink advice?

I always camp out in Westport and as far as bars go I like Kelly's and McCoy's. But there are neighborhoods that merit exploration from Westport all the way to City Market in downtown. I've not paid a lot of attention to food in KC, sadly.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: cougar on October 13, 2013, 03:53:18 pm
So, what's the catchy motto for the rest of the season?  "Bombing for Boyd"? I've tried to look on the bright side so far this season, but after today there isn't one any more.  This loss was embarrassing and should pretty much signal the end of this season's relevance.  At least a few years ago I expected the Texans to be bad so I was prepared for it and was thrilled at any signs of life.  This just sucks.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 13, 2013, 04:26:11 pm
And I'd rather lose with Keenum than with Yates.

I'm not completely convinced Keenum'd make that happen...  Think the kid may have a pleasant surprise or two up his sleeve for Texans fans.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2013, 04:44:43 pm
I'm not completely convinced Keenum'd make that happen...  Think the kid may have a pleasant surprise or two up his sleeve for Texans fans.

We'll never know.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2013, 05:11:16 pm
And that is why inmates shouldn't run the asylum.

Only crazy people staff a team with 3 QBs, none of which are qualified to play at this level.  
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Savage on October 13, 2013, 06:37:52 pm
Any food/drink advice?

I really like Jack Stacks especially their beans.  And I realize this is sacrilege to some on this board, but I always try to bring home some arthur bryant's rich and spicy sauce for burgers.  You're going to have a great time.  Chiefs - Raiders is on my bucket list.  Also, if you stumble across some povitica, give it a try. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 14, 2013, 08:16:07 am
Two things I learned from Mrs Limey's front office source at the Texans:

1)  After the media leave, the locker room devolves into Lord of the Flies, with everyone attacking everyone else; and

b)  "Changes are coming" (no timetable).


It seems clear that the coaching staff has lost the team.  If the Special Teams coaches - who should've been fired loooong before now - survive the week, there's something even more wrong with this franchise.  Of course, the change could just as easily be the firing of Phillips because the defense gave up 30+ points the last two weeks.

Who the fuck knows with this owner?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 14, 2013, 09:53:05 am
Two things I learned from Mrs Limey's front office source at the Texans:

1)  After the media leave, the locker room devolves into Lord of the Flies, with everyone attacking everyone else; and

b)  "Changes are coming" (no timetable).


The former seems much more likely.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 15, 2013, 11:41:25 am
Today in "No shit, Sherlock":

Quote
Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 4m
Just interviewed Rodney Harrison and will play the interview tomorrow morning.  He believes Gary Kubiak will be gone after the season.

Harrison went on to say if he were a player in that locker room, he would have lost confidence in Kubiak after he continued to play Schaub
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Uncle Charlie on October 15, 2013, 07:30:20 pm
Of course, the change could just as easily be the firing of Phillips because the defense gave up 30+ points the last two weeks.

Not that the defense has been great, but they hardly have been solely responsible for the points pile up.  They cannot run onto the field to stop the return of a turnover.  That said, they need to create turnovers and quit commuting dumb penalties.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 16, 2013, 08:57:43 am
Harrison went on to say if he were a player in that locker room, he would have lost confidence in Kubiak after he continued to play Schaub while blaming the defense for losing games

FIFH
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 16, 2013, 08:59:50 am
That said, they need to create turnovers and quit commuting dumb penalties.

You're thinking of special teams.

The defense is fine.  It's just worn out and fed up with defending short fields and trying to make stands, knowing that the offense does nothing but rack up points for the opposition.  The may be super-human athletes, but they're still human.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: BUWebguy on October 16, 2013, 03:58:33 pm
Some crazy Texans stats I've seen this week:
* 1st team since 1940 to outgain opponent by 200+ yards and lose by 25 points.
* Houston has allowed 7 touchdowns when the defense hasn't been on the field this year. Record is 12, set by '99 Miami.

Houston offense: 7th most yards per game in the NFL (396), but 7th fewest points per game (17.7).
Houston defense: Fewest yards allowed per game (253), but 5th most points per game allowed (29.5)

Why? Turnovers.

"So far this season the Texans have given up the ball 15 times and out of these 15 giveaways, opponents have scored touchdowns on 6 of those giveaways (5 pick-sixes) for a total of 42 points. In total, the Texans have given up 66 points off of giveaways (8 of the turnovers led to field goals) - this is equal to 11 giveaway points per game, which is the highest since the 2004 San Francisco 49ers (152 total and 9.5 per game).

"To throw another stat at you, the Texans have had 40% (6/15) of the turnovers lead directly to touchdowns, which is again the highest of any team in the last 24 seasons - 2007 Atlanta Falcons had the highest full season percentage at 29% (7/24). Further, of the 20,660 turnovers over the last 24 seasons, just 1,739 led to touchdowns or just 8.4%."

http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/the-curious-case-of-the-houston-texans.aspx
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 16, 2013, 04:16:51 pm
Some crazy Texans stats I've seen this week:

Thanks for that.  It puts into numbers what everyone* has been seeing week-in, week-out.

* Except Kubiak and the drunken-twat who sits in front of me.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 16, 2013, 08:29:21 pm
While they have a point, there's also the matter of terrible play calling in the red zone and a spotty kicker.  Lots of meaningless yardage between the 20s...

Some crazy Texans stats I've seen this week:
* 1st team since 1940 to outgain opponent by 200+ yards and lose by 25 points.
* Houston has allowed 7 touchdowns when the defense hasn't been on the field this year. Record is 12, set by '99 Miami.

Houston offense: 7th most yards per game in the NFL (396), but 7th fewest points per game (17.7).
Houston defense: Fewest yards allowed per game (253), but 5th most points per game allowed (29.5)

Why? Turnovers.

"So far this season the Texans have given up the ball 15 times and out of these 15 giveaways, opponents have scored touchdowns on 6 of those giveaways (5 pick-sixes) for a total of 42 points. In total, the Texans have given up 66 points off of giveaways (8 of the turnovers led to field goals) - this is equal to 11 giveaway points per game, which is the highest since the 2004 San Francisco 49ers (152 total and 9.5 per game).

"To throw another stat at you, the Texans have had 40% (6/15) of the turnovers lead directly to touchdowns, which is again the highest of any team in the last 24 seasons - 2007 Atlanta Falcons had the highest full season percentage at 29% (7/24). Further, of the 20,660 turnovers over the last 24 seasons, just 1,739 led to touchdowns or just 8.4%."

http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/the-curious-case-of-the-houston-texans.aspx
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 16, 2013, 08:34:15 pm
While they have a point, there's also the matter of terrible play calling in the red zone and a spotty kicker.  Lots of meaningless yardage between the 20s...


Has Bullock missed a kick from inside the 40? 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: BizidyDizidy on October 17, 2013, 08:16:47 am
Has Bullock missed a kick from inside the 40? 

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7610/randy-bullock

4-6 in the 40s, 0-3 from 50+

As with most Texans problems, it primarily stems from an Aggie coach who kept running a Rookie out to kick 50 yarders
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 17, 2013, 08:28:09 am
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7610/randy-bullock

4-6 in the 40s, 0-3 from 50+

As with most Texans problems, it primarily stems from an Aggie coach who kept running a Rookie out to kick 50 yarders

Or a coach whose playcalling stalls out before getting to the red zone, but won't use the best (coughAggiecough) punter in NFL history to pin the opposing team inside the 20.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 17, 2013, 08:40:38 am
Or a coach whose playcalling stalls out before getting to the red zone, but won't use the best (coughAggiecough) punter in NFL history to pin the opposing team inside the 20.

So much stems from the coach.  The play calling; the seemingly willfully negligent clock management; hanging onto clearly incompetent special teams' coaching staff all on top of his marriage to an average-at-best but aging QB who he will protect even to the point of shitting on the functioning elements of the team to deflect criticism.

The only reason this team was playoff worthy recently was the defense.  I don't know, but I suspect Kubiak was not instrumental in getting Phillips on board, but was instrumental in getting Schaub's ridiculous contract extension after one game last season.  He makes bad decisions on micro and macro scales.  The culpability for the team's ongoing struggles is rolling uphill - the buck stops on McNair's desk.

Fire Kubiak, install Wade as interim HC and get him someone who can  run an offense.  The Colts are only +2 games, and we still are yet to play them.  This isn't beyond redemption, but it is with Kubiak at the helm.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 17, 2013, 01:46:09 pm
And there it is...

‏@MarkBermanFox26
Gary Kubiak announces Case Keenum will start Sunday against the Chiefs.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Duke on October 17, 2013, 01:53:51 pm
And there it is...

‏@MarkBermanFox26
Gary Kubiak announces Case Keenum will start Sunday against the Chiefs.


WOW!  At least I'll tune in now.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 17, 2013, 02:04:14 pm
They didn't exactly set the kid up for success, but it'll be interesting to see how he does. I'm hoping well, but I'm also realistic.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 17, 2013, 02:06:13 pm
Gary Kubiak announces Case Keenum will start Sunday against the Chiefs.[/i]

It's the only option that makes sense.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 17, 2013, 02:09:01 pm
Good luck Case.  You're going to need it.

Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 17, 2013, 02:10:31 pm
Good luck Case.  You're going to need it.

Would've been better to start him at home last week, against a lesser opponent.  But that's just Kubiak thinking outside the box.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: homer on October 17, 2013, 02:13:01 pm
Quote
"It reminds me a little bit of Tony Romo's story. Hopefully it ends out that way," Texans defensive coordinator and former Dallas Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said. "He's got some moxie. That's what Romo has."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9839777/houston-texans-name-case-keenum-qb-matt-schaub-out
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: MusicMan on October 17, 2013, 02:27:16 pm
So our QB depth chart next year will both have been coached by our new head coach, Kevin Sumlin?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 17, 2013, 02:30:35 pm
So our QB depth chart next year will both have been coached by our new head coach, Kevin Sumlin?

I will hunt you down.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 17, 2013, 02:44:55 pm
Would've been better to start him at home last week, against a lesser opponent.  But that's just Kubiak thinking outside the box.

Schaub wasn't hurt last week.  

They should have put Case in once TJ was foundering and forfeited the game, but given Keenum some reps.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 17, 2013, 02:47:02 pm
So our QB depth chart next year will both have been coached by our new head coach, Kevin Sumlin?

Bradford?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 17, 2013, 02:49:22 pm
Schaub wasn't hurt last week.  

They should have put Case in once TJ was foundering and forfeited the game, but given Keenum some reps.

Agreed on all fronts.  But people (actual journos) were making the case for Case (http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=116210.msg483652#msg483652) to start last week anyway.

The important thing is that, now the reality that the #1 and #2 QBs can't cut it, Keenum gets some time to evaluate his prospects before next year's draft.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: cougar on October 17, 2013, 07:29:54 pm
Schaub wasn't hurt last week.  

They should have put Case in once TJ was foundering and forfeited the game, but given Keenum some reps.

I think Case was inactive and not dressed out last week.  Actually, I think this week is going to be the first time this season he's even going to be on the active roster on game day.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 17, 2013, 07:48:24 pm
Schaub wasn't hurt last week.  

They should have put Case in once TJ was foundering and forfeited the game, but given Keenum some reps.

Keenum was not active last Sunday. In fact, this will be the first time he actually gets to wear a uniform in a regular NFL game.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 17, 2013, 07:59:06 pm
Keenum was not active last Sunday. In fact, this will be the first time he actually gets to wear a uniform in a regular NFL game.

Unfortunately, I fear that he's going to be wearing a bunch of Chiefs all day, too. This will definitely be a trial by fire.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 17, 2013, 09:10:33 pm
I'm starting the Chiefs in our Fantasy Football league. My brain says it's the right thing my to do. My heart says I hope the Chiefs do shitty. I really like Case and hope he does well
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 17, 2013, 09:16:43 pm
I'm starting the Chiefs in our Fantasy Football league. My brain says it's the right thing my to do. My heart says I hope the Chiefs do shitty. I really like Case and hope he does well

What the fuck difference does it make? You're playing me and I'm the Matt Millen of fantasy football.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 17, 2013, 09:32:15 pm
What the fuck difference does it make? You're playing me and I'm the Matt Millen of fantasy football.
I'm leading the league in scoring and am in the bottom half of the standings. But, yeah, your having a worse year.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: chuck on October 17, 2013, 09:39:58 pm
I'm leading the league in scoring and am in the bottom half of the standings. But, yeah, your having a worse year.

The last time I looked I was leading the league in points scored against which is basically an annual certainty but several of my losses were due to blistering incompetence and fuckwittery, just complete roster mismanagement.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: austro on October 17, 2013, 10:03:10 pm
I'm starting the Chiefs in our Fantasy Football league. My brain says it's the right thing my to do. My heart says I hope the Chiefs do shitty. I really like Case and hope he does well

So you're the bastard who out-waivered me for the Chiefs!
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 18, 2013, 12:49:16 pm
The Chiefs are heading for a fall; so says the Limey press (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/oct/17/kansas-city-chiefs-undefeated-end).  It doesn't say that it'll necessarily be this weekend, though.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Randy Watson on October 22, 2013, 09:52:24 am
Has Bullock missed a kick from inside the 40? 

If you spend a draft pick on a kicker, the bastard needs to make about half the 50+ yarders.  Bullock sucks.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Limey on October 24, 2013, 09:15:13 am
7 plays that justify keeping Keenum over Schaub (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/10/six_plays_that_justify_case_ke.php)
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: Bench on October 24, 2013, 09:57:50 am
7 plays that justify keeping Keenum over Schaub (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2013/10/six_plays_that_justify_case_ke.php)

Pendergast has been all over the Kubiak/Schaub nonsense for the last several years.  He seems to be the only "journalist" in Houston that is watching the same games everybody else is.
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 24, 2013, 10:04:20 am
Pendergast has been all over the Kubiak/Schaub nonsense for the last several years.  He seems to be the only "journalist" in Houston that is watching the same games everybody else is.

He's not feasting from the Texans' trough like McLain is.

...


Of course I mean that literally, what kind of question is that?
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 24, 2013, 10:14:32 am
Pendergast has been all over the Kubiak/Schaub nonsense for the last several years.  He seems to be the only "journalist" in Houston that is watching the same games everybody else is.

In other words, he's been saying what I've been saying for years. 
Title: Re: Why Texans?
Post by: NeilT on October 24, 2013, 10:39:02 am
In other words, he's been saying what I've been saying for years. 

Not nearly as well though.