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General Discussion => Archive => Game Zone 2013 Archive => Topic started by: Mr. Happy on August 20, 2013, 05:57:51 pm
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Your lineups for tonight's game:
Astros
LFRobbie Grossman
RFL.J. Hoes
2BJose Altuve
CJason Castro
1BChris Carter
3BMatt Dominguez
DHMax Stassi
CFBrandon Barnes
SSMarwin Gonzalez
HOU: Jarred Cosart (1-0, 1.15)
stRangers
CF Leonys Martin
SS Elvis Andrus
2B Ian Kinsler
DH Adrian Beltre
C A.J. Pierzynski
RF Alex Rios
1B Mitch Moreland
3B Jurickson Profar
LF David Murphy
TEX: Travis Blackley (1-1, 4.89)
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Love seeing the huge grins on the kids faces as they make their MLB debuts. Time to crush a couple off Blacley there kid!
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That's just what we need. Missed calls.
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That's just what we need. Missed calls.
Not only was 1B off the bag, but Hoes might've also beat the throw as well... Pretty impressive to make the wrong call for two different reasons... Ugh!
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Not only was 1B off the bag, but Hoes might've also beat the throw as well... Pretty impressive to make the wrong call for two different reasons... Ugh!
I saw it live and yet the umpire missed it standing 5 feet away.
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I haven't watched a game in a couple of weeks. I can't wait to see what kind of defensive idiocy Carter contributes tonight.
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I haven't watched a game in a couple of weeks. I can't wait to see what kind of defensive idiocy Carter contributes tonight.
Last night it was Villar.
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Springer hit HR #36
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And another crappy call on the Kinsler swing-and-miss-called-foul-ball. Fortunately, no harm caused as Kinsler filed out on the 3-2 pitch.
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Springer hit HR #36
“@azfreedman: Springer's latest work of art: a screaming line drive off the LED board in LF for #36. Now has 101 RBI and 100 runs scored.”
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Matty Dominguez got all of that.
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Last night it was Villar.
I heard.
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Stassi K's on 3 pitches in his debut AB
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If Dominguez could get that batting average up another 30 points I would be happy.
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Matty D with the 2-run blast!!!
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that could have been an outstanding play if rios had been out.
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Looks like Cosart is going to be tested tonight.
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Looks like Cosart is going to be tested tonight.
This defense and this HPU will test his mettle.
His curve is really causing trouble for the Rangers right now.
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They need to jump all over Blackley now.
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yeah!
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yeah!
Was that for the Grossman hit? If so, this FSSW telecast is a couple of minutes behind whatever source you're using.
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I was agreeing with Matt.
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Nevermind.
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Ok, my mistake.
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that was the play that didn't get turned last night, and Harrell never overcame.
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that was the play that didn't get turned last night, and Harrell never overcame.
I don't think Harrell could overcome opening a tough jar of pickles at this point.
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If Cosart could locate his fastball consistently...
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Hoes is a good looking player.
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Wow. There wasn't much ballpark left for that one. I hope the offense can get him a little rest this inning.
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Wow. There wasn't much ballpark left for that one. I hope the offense can get him a little rest this inning.
Surprised Beltre was able to go up after that one...
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Nice little hit for Stassi.
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Hey Hap. Did you see where the FTC traded Dejesus to make a place in their outfield for Bogusevic. Thought that might interest you
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Stassi! Stay on the bag!
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Well, I hope that Stassi learned something there.
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And then Stassi falls for the hidden ball trick.
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Hoes has a lot more confidence in his arm than I do.
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Hey Hap. Did you see where the FTC traded Dejesus to make a place in their outfield for Bogusevic. Thought that might interest you
He homered!
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Well fuck. Beltre has had good swings off Cosart all night.
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Fuck. Beltre with the 2-run opposite field shot. Rangers lead 3-2. First time Cosart has allowed more than two runs.
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Well fuck. Beltre has had good swings off Cosart all night.
CB in his eyes.
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Let's not forget that Beltre is the player that noted genius Lance Berkman chided the Rangers for signing.
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And then Stassi falls for the hidden ball trick.
Nope, just deked himself out...
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And then Stassi falls for the hidden ball trick.
What was this in regard to? I didn't see the first half of the game.
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What was this in regard to? I didn't see the first half of the game.
Stassi was running for second as the pitcher fielded a ground ball. He overthrew the player covering the bag and Stassi was safe at second. The umpire stood there idly watching the play without giving a safe signal. The ball had been cleanly caught by the other middle infielder who was backing up the play a dozen feet or so behind the bag. Stassi looked around and assumed that the play had been made for the force out and started to walk back to the dugout. The player with the ball charged at him and tagged him out. The umpire delighted in making the out call with excessive dramatics.
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Stassi was running for second as the pitcher fielded a ground ball. He overthrew the player covering the bag and Stassi was safe at second. The umpire stood there idly watching the play without giving a safe signal. The ball had been cleanly caught by the other middle infielder who was backing up the play a dozen feet or so behind the bag. Stassi looked around and assumed that the play had been made for the force out and started to walk back to the dugout. The player with the ball charged at him and tagged him out. The umpire delighted in making the out call with excessive dramatics.
The ump was wrong on this one. He should have given a safe signal.
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The ump was wrong on this one. He should have given a safe signal.
And if the ump doesn't give you a signal, you stand on the bag and ask him a direct question. Stassi still blew it.
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And if the ump doesn't give you a signal, you stand on the bag and ask him a direct question. Stassi still blew it.
He did blow it, he didn't argue. I think he learned the lesson.
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The ump was wrong on this one. He should have given a safe signal.
Was the ump just fucking with the rookie then?
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Was the ump just fucking with the rookie then?
I doubt that he knew he was a rookie (although maybe he did, since they threw the ball out after his hit). I suspect he was just applying the same rule as the HPU does on a play at the plate where the runner doesn't touch the plate and the catcher hasn't made the tag: no signal is given until a definitive event takes place. In this case, the ball wasn't dead, Stassi left the base, so it's inappropriate for the ump to give any indication until he either returns to the base safely or the fielder tags him out.
I'm pretty sure that the umpire did signal safe when the throw went past the bag, but unfortunately for Stassi, he was sliding into the bag at the time and he never saw it.
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I doubt that he knew he was a rookie (although maybe he did, since they threw the ball out after his hit). I suspect he was just applying the same rule as the HPU does on a play at the plate where the runner doesn't touch the plate and the catcher hasn't made the tag: no signal is given until a definitive event takes place. In this case, the ball wasn't dead, Stassi left the base, so it's inappropriate for the ump to give any indication until he either returns to the base safely or the fielder tags him out.
I'm pretty sure that the umpire did signal safe when the throw went past the bag, but unfortunately for Stassi, he was sliding into the bag at the time and he never saw it.
I don't think the ump did signal safe. I remember looking for it on the replay. Stassi slid into second. Kept his hand on the base while standing. Then walked off. The ump rather stood there. That is when he got tagged out. I think Stassi learned to ask the ump what the call was before leaving the base and not assuming anything about major league umpires.
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Stassi succeeded in arriving at the base before the fielder made the tag so I have no idea why a safe call, which the umpire most certainly did not make, would have been inappropriate.
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Here's the link to the video. No call was made at the time of the play.
Please note, the link is from the Rangers broadcast, so you may want to mute it.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_20_houmlb_texmlb_1&mode=video&content_id=29889105&tcid=vpp_copy_29889105
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Stassi succeeded in arriving at the base before the fielder made the tag so I have no idea why a safe call, which the umpire most certainly did not make, would have been inappropriate.
It was a force play, no tag necessarry...there really should have been a call of some sort made. That being said, Stassi should not have assumed anything. The lack of a call should have been red flag enough for Stassi to stay put until he figured what the hell was going on.
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Stassi succeeded in arriving at the base before the fielder made the tag so I have no idea why a safe call, which the umpire most certainly did not make, would have been inappropriate.
My point was that it's inappropriate after Stassi has left the bag.
I just looked at video again, and BG is right: there was never a safe call, which is bogus. My guess is that Stassi felt the tag from Andrus and assumed Andrus had the ball, so he assumed he was out. As he gets up he gives a very brief glance at the ump and then just walks away with his head down. Oops. I suspect that had something to do with it being his first game and not wanting to show up an ump.
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Reuben catches you up (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2013/08/21/too-much-and-not-enough/).
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You can't get that kind of news just anywhere. Pretty riveting, and good luck on the rubber game.