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Title: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 07:17:12 am
I just read the Jerome Solomon column. The whiny little baby wants out in the worst way. I hope he gets his wish soon.

Sorry if the column has been talked about elsewhere. My Cabrera meter is in the shop.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Mr. Happy on June 21, 2013, 07:28:02 am
I just read the Jerome Solomon column. The whiny little baby wants out in the worst way. I hope he gets his wish soon.

Sorry if the column has been talked about elsewhere. My Cabrera meter is in the shop.

Link?
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ty in Tampa on June 21, 2013, 07:47:59 am
Link?

It's behind the Chron pay wall.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Mr. Happy on June 21, 2013, 07:53:56 am
It's behind the Chron pay wall.

Well then, fuck Bud Norris and the Chron.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: jaklewein on June 21, 2013, 07:59:44 am
Well then, fuck Bud Norris and the Chron.

+1

I saw the article yesterday and refuse to pay for their coverage.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: pots on June 21, 2013, 08:15:12 am
I just read the Jerome Solomon column. The whiny little baby wants out in the worst way. I hope he gets his wish soon.

Sorry if the column has been talked about elsewhere. My Cabrera meter is in the shop.

Yeah, can you provide a quote?  Bud hadn't said a single thing prior to whatever this guy in the article may have quoted that calls for this kind of attack.  The only border line thing he said was when asked what his feelings on a possible trade to the Giants (after they showed interest), he said it would be a dream come true, but immediately followed it with he also loves playing for the Astros.  He grew up in SF and dreamed of playing for them as a kid.  Luhnow was asked about it and said it was not a big deal and was not shocked that a person would dream of playing for their hometown team.

Here's the other quote that Bud has made recently that was risky (but not bad and but unfortunatelky easily abused by somebody trying to sell newspapers):
Quote
"There's a lot going on around me. I've seen a lot of trades in my 3 1/2 years up here.
"I've seen stable, veteran players get moved to new organizations. Sometimes you don't understand why it's not you. So, it's been tough. ... Now that my name's the one popping up, it's a little different feeling. At the end of the day, I need to prepare myself to pitch every five days for the team I'm on. I've been in Houston my entire career. All I know is pitching for this team. If it changes, it changes. But it's not going to change my aspect of going out there and pitching."
"You have to be informed," he said. "I don't think you want to be blindsided by it: One day, you come to the park and, boom, you're gone. I don't pay too much attention to it, but I'm definitely in the loop. I get tidbits here and there ... But it comes down to the front office. I have to impress somebody enough where they want to come get me."

Unless Solomon had something new, this thread should be whacked
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 08:52:36 am
it is in today's Austin American-Statesman.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 08:55:11 am
the article said after a recent loss, he blamed everybody and everything, including the air conditioning.

sorry, pots, if he is your cousin, but fuck Bud Norris. shut up and pitch.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: NeilT on June 21, 2013, 08:59:35 am
Bud doesn't come across whiny in those quotes. Sorry, I don't see it.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ty in Tampa on June 21, 2013, 09:09:42 am
it is in today's Austin American-Statesman.

Fuck the Statesman, too.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 09:11:27 am
Fuck the Statesman, too.

that is SOP for its sports department. run a day old column from another paper.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ron Brand on June 21, 2013, 09:18:43 am
that is SOP for its sports department that newspaper. run a day old column from another paper.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ty in Tampa on June 21, 2013, 09:23:46 am
While I certainly agree with "shut up and pitch" and I haven't read the column, Solomon gets blasted by David Coleman of Crawfish Boxes. (http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/6/21/4451008/jerome-solomon-bud-norris-and-the-decline-and-fall-of-western)
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 09:29:40 am
While I certainly agree with "shut up and pitch" and I haven't read the column, Solomon gets blasted by David Coleman of Crawfish Boxes. (http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/6/21/4451008/jerome-solomon-bud-norris-and-the-decline-and-fall-of-western)

if he was misquoted, fine. shut up and pitch still applies, however.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: pots on June 21, 2013, 09:32:48 am
the article said after a recent loss, he blamed everybody and everything, including the air conditioning.

sorry, pots, if he is your cousin, but fuck Bud Norris. shut up and pitch.

The only air conditioning comment I can find is when they were at fielding practice the AC shutoff temproarily and joked to a teammate that it was due to Appel's contract (saving money).  Wasn't made to the press, wasn't meant to be serious.  Maybe there is a different air conditioning comment?
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: pots on June 21, 2013, 09:39:57 am
From what I can tell from this side of the pay wall most of solomon's comments were based off of cherry-picking this aricle:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/houston-astros-bud-norris-good-bet-to-be-on-move-by-trade-deadline-jeff-luhnow-san-francisco-giants-061813- (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/houston-astros-bud-norris-good-bet-to-be-on-move-by-trade-deadline-jeff-luhnow-san-francisco-giants-061813-)
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ron Brand on June 21, 2013, 09:44:43 am
I think we should change the title of this thread to at least add Jerome Solomon's name to it.

Because, Fuck Jerome Solomon.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 09:49:57 am
The only air conditioning comment I can find is when they were at fielding practice the AC shutoff temproarily and joked to a teammate that it was due to Appel's contract (saving money).  Wasn't made to the press, wasn't meant to be serious.  Maybe there is a different air conditioning comment?

look, pal, I am sorry I offended your brother.

take it up with Solomon.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: MusicMan on June 21, 2013, 10:02:28 am
I just read the Jerome Solomon column. The whiny little baby wants out in the worst way. I hope he gets his wish soon.

Sorry if the column has been talked about elsewhere. My Cabrera meter is in the shop.

Take a step back, Jim, and read this column (http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/6/21/4451008/jerome-solomon-bud-norris-and-the-decline-and-fall-of-western) (link courtesy of Footer).

Summary: Norris made some very innocent comments about how IF he is traded, as rumored, he'd love to play in his hometown.  Said comments were NOT to the Chron, and so Solomon pulls a hatchet job on him.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: pots on June 21, 2013, 10:12:26 am
look, pal, I am sorry I offended your brother.

take it up with Solomon.

Not offended by Solomon.  He is who he is.  Just didn't want his blog write up given credibility.  And whether you realize it or not, your opinion holds credibility.  
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ty in Tampa on June 21, 2013, 10:14:25 am
Shut up and pitch.

Don't read shitty newspapers.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Bench on June 21, 2013, 10:15:25 am
Solomon is an ass.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: juliogotay on June 21, 2013, 10:29:27 am
Solomon is an ass.


Man, Footer really torched him. I miss her being on the beat.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: jaklewein on June 21, 2013, 10:34:01 am

Man, Footer really torched him. I miss her being on the beat.

Though I love to see that she still seems to have the Astros back.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ty in Tampa on June 21, 2013, 10:35:08 am

Man, Footer really torched him. I miss her being on the beat.

Nice little Twitter tiff going on between her and Solomon. She called him out good.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Bench on June 21, 2013, 10:36:40 am
Nice little Twitter tiff going on between her and Solomon. She called him out good.

And he's such a dick in his responses to her.  "Little bit pregnant?" 
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: MusicMan on June 21, 2013, 10:40:10 am
And he's such a dick in his responses to her. 

Shocking.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: roadrunner on June 21, 2013, 10:53:02 am
Solomon is the worst. 

I hate that this thread was even started.  Norris did nothing wrong and it's just Solomon continuing to add to his legacy of being a shitty Houston columnist.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: JimR on June 21, 2013, 11:12:41 am
Solomon is the worst. 

I hate that this thread was even started.  Norris did nothing wrong and it's just Solomon continuing to add to his legacy of being a shitty Houston columnist.

mea culpa, all you Solomon-haters. he may be a dick. is he lying in his column? if so, ban me from posting for a week.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Bench on June 21, 2013, 11:20:26 am
mea culpa, all you Solomon-haters. he may be a dick. is he lying in his column? if so, ban me from posting for a week.

He's certainly misrepresenting.  

Footer puts it best:  "I feel you focused on the Giants part and didn't acknowledge the comments in their full context. He also said some things about feeling comfortable being an Astro.  The way you said it, you made him sound like he just wants out period. Which isn't what he was saying, at all."

And then in response to the "little bit pregnant" retort:  "You took the one controversial element in a longer story and blew it up thus slanting the original content. I find it unfair. It's how NY papers survive but it doesn't make it right. Just my $.02"

But don't take a week off on his account. 
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: MusicMan on June 21, 2013, 11:22:44 am
mea culpa, all you Solomon-haters. he may be a dick. is he lying in his column? if so, ban me from posting for a week.

Counselor, you know that misrepresenting someone's words is not the same as lying.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Mr. Happy on June 21, 2013, 01:13:05 pm
mea culpa, all you Solomon-haters. he may be a dick. is he lying in his column? if so, ban me from posting for a week.

Don't. You. Go. Anywhere. Without you, I might get out of control!
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: chuck on June 21, 2013, 01:54:46 pm
Footer: "it was the lowest of the low even by Chron standards."

OUCH. And I love how Norris refuses to talk to Solomon. This is good.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Reuben on June 21, 2013, 03:12:54 pm
Footer: "it was the lowest of the low even by Chron standards."

OUCH. And I love how Norris refuses to talk to Solomon. This is good.
I haven't read the Solomon piece, but seems like she's conveniently forgetting a lot of JdJO and Justice columns.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: roadrunner on June 21, 2013, 04:00:49 pm
Footer: "it was the lowest of the low even by Chron standards."

OUCH. And I love how Norris refuses to talk to Solomon. This is good.

Honestly, Norris could have handled this so much worse.  He could call out Solomon if he wanted to for completely taking his quotes out of context.

Can we change this thread title already?  It angers me thinking that Solomon probably has seen this thread and that it will give him some satisfaction.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: drew corleone on June 21, 2013, 04:11:42 pm
Wait... so Footer is pregnant?
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Ty in Tampa on June 21, 2013, 04:12:31 pm
Wait... so Footer is pregnant?

A little bit.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Bench on June 21, 2013, 04:34:51 pm
Wait... so Footer is pregnant?

Not completely. 
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on June 22, 2013, 09:10:08 am
Wow. What Solomon did shows a total lack of journalistic capability and is void of any professional integrity. On several levels. I doubt he even knows it. He must be a real dick.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: juliogotay on June 22, 2013, 02:35:04 pm
Wow. What Solomon did shows a total lack of journalistic capability and is void of any professional integrity. On several levels. I doubt he even knows it. He must be a real dick.

Isn't the Chronicle now a Hearst paper? For ten years or so? They don't improve anything they touch.
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: Reuben on June 22, 2013, 02:46:27 pm
Isn't the Chronicle now a Hearst paper? For ten years or so? They don't improve anything they touch.
Sometimes quite the opposite! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkFn7FySyZw)
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: austro on June 22, 2013, 03:01:19 pm
Sometimes quite the opposite! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkFn7FySyZw)

"Mr. Solomon! Mr. Solomon! I'm so sorry!"
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: The Spleen on June 23, 2013, 09:59:31 pm
Isn't the Chronicle now a Hearst paper? For ten years or so? They don't improve anything they touch.

But at least the Chronicle has been out in front on the USS Maine scandal... Fucking Spaniards...
Title: Re: Fuck Bud Norris
Post by: pots on June 25, 2013, 09:13:01 am
In case you missed it, McTaggart to the PR rescue (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130624&content_id=51641672&vkey=news_hou&c_id=hou)