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General Discussion => Beer and Queso => Topic started by: Limey on October 08, 2012, 10:18:55 am
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I am starting to get nervous about this one. The Texans are rolling. Meanwhile, the Jets just lost their star receiver, are already without their top cornerback, have multiple injury issues up and down the roster, have a mis-firing QB and just got pounded at home.
It's a perfect snap and hold by Lucy...
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I'll be at the game - interested to see how the stadium is.
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Oops. Wrong forum.
Can an Admin move it to the B&Q. Ta very much.
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I'll be at the game - interested to see how the stadium is.
Hopefully, it'll be quiet.
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I'll be at the game - interested to see how the stadium is.
It's amazing how different the stadium seems when the Jets are playing than when the Giants play.
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I'm in NY. Gonna wear my Texans hat around town tonight and pray for safety.
ETA: Hey Biz, got an extra?
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I'm in NY. Gonna wear my Texans hat around town tonight and pray for safety.
ETA: Hey Biz, got an extra?
Going on an extra.
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Going on an extra.
Nice. That should be a blast.
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Apparently good sections of the stadium are still available. Cheap too. http://deadspin.com/5949800/the-jets-are-in-line-for-an-attendance-debacle-tonight (http://deadspin.com/5949800/the-jets-are-in-line-for-an-attendance-debacle-tonight)
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Funny (http://www.6magazineonline.com/2012/10/a-facebook-convo-between-nfl-qbs/)
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Funny (http://www.6magazineonline.com/2012/10/a-facebook-convo-between-nfl-qbs/)
I saw that this weekend, it is damn funny. I laughed out loud several times, but I think the Russell Wilson/Aaron Rodgers part is my favorite. That, or Romo.
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Funny (http://www.6magazineonline.com/2012/10/a-facebook-convo-between-nfl-qbs/)
"Damn, [those] bitches just got Discount Double SLAMMED!"
Great link EC!
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I saw that this weekend, it is damn funny. I laughed out loud several times, but I think the Russell Wilson/Aaron Rodgers part is my favorite. That, or Romo.
EAT SHIT AND DIE WILSON
I lost it.
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killing three dogs was the best.
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killing three dogs was the best.
I liked the "you would miss and hit a DB instead" that followed shortly thereafter
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That is some funny stuff.
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Had to wipe the tears out of my eyes after laughing so hard. That's funny right there...
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Someone needs to tell #33 that he's allowed to block an opponent. He just cost the Texans a touchdown on that interception.
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Berman has gone from just shitty to fucking incomprehensible.
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Berman has gone from just shitty to fucking incomprehensible.
MNF has turned into a sad caricature.
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I'm a little concerned that the Texans are only up 10 points at half. That's not much cushion for Kubiak's halftime coaching beatdown.
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Did Kubiak tell AJ to drop the ball?
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I'm a little concerned that the Texans are only up 10 points at half. That's not much cushion for Kubiak's halftime coaching beatdown.
Fortunately, he's pitted against Rex Ryan this week.
I find Gruden to be terribly grating.
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I find Gruden to be terribly grating.
I rarely listen to him. He at least makes an actual attempt at analysis.
Very grating: The snoar sound effect from Prometheus commercials.
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Well fuck
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Way to let them back in the game..
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Texans are dominating and are lucky as hell to be leading this game.
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Good call by Rex going for the onsides. Texans lucky to get it.
Edit: Kicker was actually offsides making the kick. Stepped past it and then kicked from behind, almost hit himself.
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Three timeouts wasted because Kubiak can't get off his dick and get a fucking play in.
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Are you fucking kidding me Kubiak? 3rd and goal from the six and you try an inside handoff?
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Your hatred of Kubiak has made you powerful.
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Texans better start getting some pressure on Sanchez.
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Your hatred of Kubiak has made you powerful.
Just made me Captain Obvious.
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How the hell can you make Sanchez look this good?
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Joseph has apparently been studying Kareem Jackson's moves.
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How the hell can you make Sanchez look this good?
Give him all day, and someone is going to get open.
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3Q: Texans ran 20 plays and had the ball 13 minutes, got six points. Jets ran 4 plays, had the ball 2 minutes, got 7 points. Recipe. For. Disaster.
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What in the actual fuck, Holliday.
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Holliday is just taking up a useful roster spot.
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Trindon holliday's locker being boxed up as we speak
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3rd and 11...here comes the inside handoff.
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Fuck I wish I wasn't right about Kubiak all the time.
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Still waiting for Kubiak's balls to drop.
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And here is the dick stepping
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3rd and 11...here comes the inside handoff.
There's the kubiak dick stepping we all know and love.
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10 points at half simply isn't enough for him. Kubiak is going to get schooled in the second half. You can set your watch by it.
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They're going to lose this fucking game. Incredible.
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This game is a bad coaching clinic.
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D looks pedestrian, which has been my biggest concern.
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J. J. FUCKING. WATT.
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J. J. FUCKING. WATT.
Beasting
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We are going to lose this fucking game.
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Punting team.
Balls, still not dropped.
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HUGE!!!!! I will happily be wrong. But Kubiak is still a dumb ass.
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Holy shit... McLain's predicted score will be exactly right.
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Appropriate to end that with a Watt knockdown.
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Appropriate to end that with a Watt knockdown.
Did you hear the field mic? "You can't throw that over my head!"
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I hated how overconfident the city was going into this game. This is a good win and still the best team in the NFL.
JJ Watt is special.
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I hated how overconfident the city was going into this game. This is a good win and still the best team in the NFL.
Fortunately, what the city thinks isn't relevant in any way, shape or form.
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Cushing probably done
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Cushing probably done
Torn ACL. Out for the year.
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Torn ACL. Out for the year.
Anyone know when Sharpton is supposed to be back?
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Anyone know when Sharpton is supposed to be back?
He's on the PUP list right now, which means they can activate him in Week 7, if he's ready. I've not heard whether he is or not.
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Kubiak outcoached.
Just enough talent to win.
Next, Packers threaten.
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Kubiak did fine. He played conservative to limit any potential turnovers on the Texans side of the field, which was smart because that's the only way the Jets had a chance.
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Kubiack did fine. He played conservative to limit any potential turnovers on the Texans side of the field, which was smart because that's the only way the Jets had a chance.
Kubiak gets fixated on one type of play, and waits too long before trying something else. E.G., his love affair with play-action, which worked for a while, but you need to run the ball at least some of the time to stop the defense sitting on it. So then he only ran the ball.
My real concern was that the Jets' shitty offense was teaching the rest of the country how to counter the Texans' blitz. It took Wade a Kubiak* to adjust to the Jets running draws and screens. When he did, they shut 'em down again.
* A measure of time that is too fucking long.
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My real concern was that the Jets' shitty offense was teaching the rest of the country how to counter the Texans' blitz. It took Wade a Kubiak* to adjust to the Jets running draws and screens. When he did, they shut 'em down again.
I think losing Cushing for most of the game had an effect on their defense. He is solid at picking up on the plays, giving the line more opportunity to focus on the pass rush and blitz. It may take some time to adjust to not having one of the most solid LBs holding the line.
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Kubiak gets fixated on one type of play, and waits too long before trying something else. E.G., his love affair with play-action, which worked for a while, but you need to run the ball at least some of the time to stop the defense sitting on it. So then he only ran the ball.
My real concern was that the Jets' shitty offense was teaching the rest of the country how to counter the Texans' blitz. It took Wade a Kubiak* to adjust to the Jets running draws and screens. When he did, they shut 'em down again.
* A measure of time that is too fucking long.
Kubiak wasn't perfect (and never is), but I thought he did a good job last night. There are adjustments that are made from both sides throughout the game, but the Jets still have a good defense even though everyone seems to think they're the joke of the league. I thought he did a good job of limiting the turnover risks and letting the defense beat their offense.
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Kubiak wasn't perfect (and never is), but I thought he did a good job last night. There are adjustments that are made from both sides throughout the game, but the Jets still have a good defense even though everyone seems to think they're the joke of the league. I thought he did a good job of limiting the turnover risks and letting the defense beat their offense.
The lack of execution in the red zone is a concern. If the Texans execute inside the 20, the game is a blowout, with or without the woeful special teams play.
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The lack of execution in the red zone is a concern. If the Texans execute inside the 20, the game is a blowout, with or without the woeful special teams play.
Bingo! The Texans mopped the floor with the Jets yesterday, and it took a tipped pass to hold on for a win. The play calling inside the red zone was atrocious (as has become a pattern). They wasted 3 timeouts last night because they couldn't get a play called in time. The offense simply did not look good last night, and it wasn't all Jets defense.
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Bingo! The Texans mopped the floor with the Jets yesterday, and it took a tipped pass to hold on for a win. The play calling inside the red zone was atrocious (as has become a pattern). They wasted 3 timeouts last night because they couldn't get a play called in time. The offense simply did not look good last night, and it wasn't all Jets defense.
To be fair re: time outs, it was clear that they had an equipment issue, not a coaching issue, that forced those to be called.
If you want to point out a sideline clusterfuck, look at how the Jets wasted their timeouts, and picked up penalty yards, because they couldn't get their players on/off the field in any semblance of order. If they don't burn those timeouts, they have more time on the clock at the end, don't have to try to force a play prior to the 2-minute warning, which then won't get picked off, and they most likely win the game.
I agree that the redzone play-calling was horrible. Also, someone needs to modify Shaub's neck so that his head can turn independently from the rest of his body.
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To be fair re: time outs, it was clear that they had an equipment issue, not a coaching issue, that forced those to be called.
That sound you hear is Vince Lombardi rolling over in his grave. Coaches relayed in plays for decades prior to the very recent advent of headsets in the QB's helmet. Hand signals, shuttling plays in, etc are all alternative methods that teams practice for just such a situation. Once...OK. Three times and you still can't figure it out? Swift kick in the junk.
Also, someone needs to modify Shaub's neck so that his head can turn independently from the rest of his body.
Schaub is glued to the field. He moves like a hippopotamus neck deep in molasses. I wish he was more graceful out there too, but it's who he is.
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Schaub is glued to the field. He moves like a hippopotamus neck deep in molasses. I wish he was more graceful out there too, but it's who he is.
He passed up at least one wide-ass-open scramble for a first down to throw the ball away.
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He passed up at least one wide-ass-open scramble for a first down to throw the ball away.
He only looks where he's facing / running. I know that throwing back across the field is a no-no, but he won't even look up the middle when scrambling to the side.
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I will say, the only saving grace to Kubiak's red zone offense is Arian Foster. He just knows how to find the end zone. Other than that I think a combination of (a) Kubiak's scheme, (b) Schaub's skills, and (c) Andre's skills do not work together in the red zone. OD plays well around the goal line, too.
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Kubiak outcoached.
Just enough talent to win.
Next, Packers threaten.
This bullshit you guys are spewing about Kubiak is just embarrassingly stupid, especially in light of the Texans 5-0 record. Rex Ryan pulled out all the stops last night and his Jets still lost. That onside kick attempt was comically dumb. The only reason the Jets were even in this game was that Joe McKnight kick return, which oh by the way shouldn't have counted since Bryan Braman was held from behind and the refs inexplicably missed it.
http://screencast.com/t/LWG7GeiaZgwD
Funny how quiet ya'll are when the Texans are just grinding other teams in the dirt. But, get into an obvious trap game against a beleaguered home dog on a Monday night and not blow them out and it's "dick-stepping Kubiak" stupidity all over again from the usual suspects.
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The only reason the Jets were even in this game was that Joe McKnight kick return, which oh by the way shouldn't have counted since Bryan Braman was held from behind and the refs inexplicably missed it.
I thought I saw that live, but they never went back to it later. These replacement refs suck.
Eh?
Oh.
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This bullshit you guys are spewing about Kubiak is just embarrassingly stupid, especially in light of the Texans 5-0 record. Rex Ryan pulled out all the stops last night and his Jets still lost. That onside kick attempt was comically dumb. The only reason the Jets were even in this game was that Joe McKnight kick return, which oh by the way shouldn't have counted since Bryan Braman was held from behind and the refs inexplicably missed it.
http://screencast.com/t/LWG7GeiaZgwD
Funny how quiet ya'll are when the Texans are just grinding other teams in the dirt. But, get into an obvious trap game against a beleaguered home dog on a Monday night and not blow them out and it's "dick-stepping Kubiak" stupidity all over again from the usual suspects.
After years and years of getting your ass handed to you re: football, and especially the Texans, I'll give you points for having to the guts/stupidity to come back here and ask for more. But it's like the punchline to the old joke: let's face it...you're not here for the hunting, are you?
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This bullshit you guys are spewing about Kubiak is just embarrassingly stupid, especially in light of the Texans 5-0 record. Rex Ryan pulled out all the stops last night and his Jets still lost. That onside kick attempt was comically dumb. The only reason the Jets were even in this game was that Joe McKnight kick return, which oh by the way shouldn't have counted since Bryan Braman was held from behind and the refs inexplicably missed it.
http://screencast.com/t/LWG7GeiaZgwD
Funny how quiet ya'll are when the Texans are just grinding other teams in the dirt. But, get into an obvious trap game against a beleaguered home dog on a Monday night and not blow them out and it's "dick-stepping Kubiak" stupidity all over again from the usual suspects.
I'm elated the Texans are 5-0, but 5-0 isn't the goal. The goal is to look like--and to eventually become--a team that can win the super bowl. The Texans appear to be of a high caliber in many facets of the game, but the red zone offense and special teams need work. The margin for error is only going to get thinner with Cushing out for the year.
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After years and years of getting your ass handed to you re: football, and especially the Texans, I'll give you points for having to the guts/stupidity to come back here and ask for more. But it's like the punchline to the old joke: let's face it...you're not here for the hunting, are you?
Oh, please. Get off your fucking high horse, you've done nothing of the sort. You've been proven wrong time after time after time with regards to Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak, and the successes they've enjoyed the last two seasons are proof positive. You've been nothing but a Kubiak hater with an axe to grind. Forchrissakes they are one of two undefeated teams in the NFL but you demand nothing but perfection in the boxscore AND the scoreboard. They could score TDs on three out of every four red zone trips and you'd bitch about his use of a timeout.
With all things Kubiak, you are a clown HH.
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Oh, please. Get off your fucking high horse, you've done nothing of the sort. You've been proven wrong time after time after time with regards to Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak, and the successes they've enjoyed the last two seasons are proof positive. You've been nothing but a Kubiak hater with an axe to grind. Forchrissakes they are one of two undefeated teams in the NFL but you demand nothing but perfection in the boxscore AND the scoreboard. They could score TDs on three out of every four red zone trips and you'd bitch about his use of a timeout.
With all things Kubiak, you are a clown HH.
With all things football, you're a fucking idiot.
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I'm elated the Texans are 5-0, but 5-0 isn't the goal. The goal is to look like--and to eventually become--a team that can win the super bowl. The Texans appear to be of a high caliber in many facets of the game, but the red zone offense and special teams need work. The margin for error is only going to get thinner with Cushing out for the year.
They've been a team that could win the Super Bowl since last year. In fact, I'm pretty sure they would have been there against the Giants if not for Schaub's injury. They were very good last year, they're even better now. Last night was a tough win, but it wasn't a surprise to me because I fully expected the Jets to play up to the circumstances and the MNF stage. That game was one the Texans of old usually lose, but they've been winning a lot of these games going back to last year. They have finally learned how to win and expect to do so. Much credit goes to Wade Phillips, obviously, but it's also a credit to Kubiak, Smith, and McNair. They have this franchise headed in the right direction for the foreseeable future.
Losing Cushing is a huge blow, however. Fuck you Slauson.
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That onside kick attempt was comically dumb.
I agree...why give a high-powered offense the ball at midfield? Especially down by 6...I figured that would be the best opportunity you have (as a Jet) to have the crowd going crazy and get a stop on defense. Not only did the Texans get a short field, the Jets lost the opportunity to gain some field position (in the event of a subsequent three and out)...either way they were going to fuck themselves if the kick did not pan out. That play call was the ultimate show of respect for the Texans...they knew their chances of winning a multiple possession game were slim. Which leads to the subsequent playcalling. Up 6 at the end of the third quarter you HAVE to take sacks and interceptions out of the equation and get into a two possession game. Kubiac merely accepted the gift given and turned it into a sure three points. Tom Landry would have been proud.
Also, the "Just enough talent to win" portion of the haiku was in itself one of the dumbest things I have read on the internet this year.
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They've been a team that could win the Super Bowl since last year. In fact, I'm pretty sure they would have been there against the Giants if not for Schaub's injury Jacoby Jones.
FIFY
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Also, the "Just enough talent to win" portion of the haiku was in itself one of the dumbest things I have read on the internet this year.
You obviously don't read your own posts. You're a bitter Cowboys fan in search of a fight, we get it. I hear this shit all day long at work, and it's pretty tired by now.
The Texans were one J.J. Watt deflection away from falling behind, and Kubiak's ultra-conservative game plan would have guaranteed failure. As Limey already pointed out, Phillips' defense made the Jets 2nd-stringers look like Pro Bowlers for at least half the game. I don't hate Kubiak or Phillips, but I don't think they're above-average coaches either, particularly Kubiak.
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You obviously don't read your own posts. You're a bitter Cowboys fan in search of a fight, we get it. I hear this shit all day long at work, and it's pretty tired by now.
The Texans were one J.J. Watt deflection away from falling behind, and Kubiak's ultra-conservative game plan would have guaranteed failure. As Limey already pointed out, Phillips' defense made the Jets 2nd-stringers look like Pro Bowlers for at least half the game. I don't hate Kubiak or Phillips, but I don't think they're above-average coaches either, particularly Kubiak.
Phillips isn't an above average coach? You are a blithering idiot.
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I don't hate Kubiak or Phillips, but I don't think they're above-average coaches either, particularly Kubiak.
I think Phillips has more than proved his mettle as a defensive coordinator.
As for Kubiak, he's no great genius at managing a game, but I think it's fair to say that he has improved with experience and is less likely then he used to be to get in the way of the talent on the team.
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Phillips isn't an above average coach? You are a blithering idiot.
That's a fine compliment from someone who's proven again and again that he's worse than Hitler.
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I think Phillips has more than proved his mettle as a defensive coordinator.
As for Kubiak, he's no great genius at managing a game, but I think it's fair to say that he has improved with experience and is less likely then he used to be to get in the way of the talent on the team.
Yup, I don't really know...my general opinion is that both guys are very good coordinators, but not great head coaches. Overall I am very happy with Phillips and I hope he stays with the Texans for a long long time.
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Yup, I don't really know...my general opinion is that both guys are very good coordinators, but not great head coaches. Overall I am very happy with Phillips and I hope he stays with the Texans for a long long time.
Oh, I see. Yes, Wade was a shitty head coach. However, especially given how he immediately turned one of the worst defenses in the league into one of the best, I think even "very good coordinator" is selling him short. And he looks so fucking friendly.
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....Phillips' defense made the Jets 2nd-stringers look like Pro Bowlers for at least half the game. I don't hate Kubiak or Phillips, but I don't think they're above-average coaches either, particularly Kubiak.
Wow!
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However, especially given how he immediately turned one of the worst defenses in the league into one of the best, I think even "very good coordinator" is selling him short. And he looks so fucking friendly.
Yeah, but he had just enough talent to do it with. I'd rather look at his daughter.
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You obviously don't read your own posts. You're a bitter Cowboys fan in search of a fight, we get it. I hear this shit all day long at work, and it's pretty tired by now.
The Texans were one J.J. Watt deflection away from falling behind, and Kubiak's ultra-conservative game plan would have guaranteed failure. As Limey already pointed out, Phillips' defense made the Jets 2nd-stringers look like Pro Bowlers for at least half the game. I don't hate Kubiak or Phillips, but I don't think they're above-average coaches either, particularly Kubiak.
Not really looking to fight, was merely agreeing to Matadorph's statement RE the onside kick and defending what I thought was a good coaching move, albeit conservative, by Kubiak on the subsequent red zone apperance. Seeing how the playcalling was called into question...at that point of the game I believe it was the right call. Most "old school" coaches would agree with what occurred in that sequence, especially given the fact it was an away game against an inferior opponent and the FG gave you a two possession lead (with one quarter left to play against a fairly inept offense, no less). You play the odds there by protecting the football and then let your defense do its job. As far as your artistic prowess, I stand beside my statement. If wins and losses were based solely on talent, the Texans would probably go undefeated....they have an abundance of talented players. Implying they have just enough talent to win is fucking idiocy at its finest.
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Glad this is a baseball board or someone might just take this football shit seriously. Yall should stop...well, half of you.
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Oh, I see. Yes, Wade was a shitty head coach. However, especially given how he immediately turned one of the worst defenses in the league into one of the best, I think even "very good coordinator" is selling him short. And he looks so fucking friendly.
I would not judge his head coaching ability on the Dallas job. Garrett was there screwing shit up knowing he wad going to get his job.
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I would not judge his head coaching ability on the Dallas job. Garrett was there screwing shit up knowing he wad going to get his job.
Someone should probably let him know that he's got the job, so he can stop screwing up.
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Texans sign Ruud, release Holliday (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/10/texans-add-some-veteran-lb-depth-with-barrett-ruud/)
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Texans sign Ruud...
He might still be their leading tackler but they'll all be 10+ yards up the field.
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Texans sign Ruud, release Holliday (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/10/texans-add-some-veteran-lb-depth-with-barrett-ruud/)
No surprise there. If all you do is return kicks, you'd better be pretty awesome at it. Holliday simply wasn't getting it done.
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He might still be their leading tackler but they'll all be 10+ yards up the field.
Ruud will get as much playing time as Derek Mason did last year for the Texans. He's depth and that is all.
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Ruud will get as much playing time as Derek Mason did last year for the Texans. He's depth and that is all.
I just had to get a Ruud shot in. He was maddening here in Tampa.
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I just had to get a Ruud shot in. He was maddening here in Tampa.
I think anyone smart enough to spot a seam in coverage and zip through it on a regular basis, is going to be an offensive back somewhere. Therefore, kick returners typically are going to be whippets who run into brick walls on a regular basis.
As long as they have enough brain power to run away from a ball that's about to land, or has actually just landed, on the 3 yard line, then I'm happy. #Jacoblitheringidiot
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As long as they have enough brain power to run away from a ball that's about to land, or has actually just landed, on the 3 yard line, then I'm happy. #Jacoblitheringidiot
I am 99% certain he has been planted as a sleeper agent for our eventual playoff showdown.
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I think anyone smart enough to spot a seam in coverage and zip through it on a regular basis, is going to be an offensive back somewhere. Therefore, kick returners typically are going to be whippets who run into brick walls on a regular basis.
Huh?
-Dante Hall, Devin Hester, Josh Cribbs
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I think anyone smart enough to spot a seam in coverage and zip through it on a regular basis, is going to be an offensive back somewhere. Therefore, kick returners typically are going to be whippets who run into brick walls on a regular basis.
Kick returners are usually guys who can play elsewhere...backup WR, DB, RB...cover on punt team, etc. If returning kicks is *all* you do, you'd better be one of those guys who can spot the seam.
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Kick returners are usually guys who can play elsewhere...backup WR, DB, RB...cover on punt team, etc.
signed, Rock Cartwright