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Title: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Tralfaz on August 23, 2012, 11:53:53 am
Says he's been contacted by Astros for interview after seaon. On Dan Patrick Show. 
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Mr. Happy on August 23, 2012, 12:09:05 pm
Says he's been contacted by Astros for interview after seaon. On Dan Patrick Show. 

Can I Get a Retread!!!
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Tralfaz on August 23, 2012, 12:15:24 pm
Can I get an Ausmus!
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: MusicMan on August 23, 2012, 12:16:48 pm
Can we have an actual sacrificial lamb as manager?  Surely there are some in College Station.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Jacksonian on August 23, 2012, 02:51:42 pm
Can we have an actual sacrificial lamb as manager?  Surely there are some in College Station.

They are too valuable there for them to be sacrificed in that way.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Noe on August 23, 2012, 05:42:02 pm
Can I Get a Retread!!!

FWIW, Riggleman passes the "someone like Art Howe" test. Whoever manages this team next season (and the one after that) has to be a manager that understands teaching and patience (not making lineups to try win today's game). It's a whole different gig in Houston right now.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Ron Brand on August 23, 2012, 05:51:03 pm
I don't think Jim Riggleman passes the "I'm not a quitter" test.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Mr. Happy on August 23, 2012, 05:53:15 pm
FWIW, Riggleman passes the "someone like Art Howe" test. Whoever manages this team next season (and the one after that) has to be a manager that understands teaching and patience (not making lineups to try win today's game). It's a whole different gig in Houston right now.

You may be right about passing the "someone like Art Howe" test. It is indeed a different gig. It'll be interesting to see who Luhnow picks snookers into the job.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: strosrays on August 23, 2012, 06:10:59 pm
I don't think Jim Riggleman passes the "I'm not a quitter" test.

Right. I haven't seen much made of this.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Fredia on August 23, 2012, 07:11:13 pm
he said some kind of gobblygoop bout making a list of candidates to fit the teams need. at least that is what i think he said
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on August 23, 2012, 08:55:16 pm
He quit because he felt he was getting screwed over. I thought of it more like a preemptive, " you can't fire me, I quit."

I wasn't there so I don't know.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Mr. Happy on August 23, 2012, 09:10:23 pm
He quit because he felt he was getting screwed over. I thought of it more like a preemptive, " you can't fire me, I quit."

I wasn't there so I don't know.

Wasn't it over a denial of extension of a contract? That's my recollection.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Noe on August 23, 2012, 09:14:50 pm
Wasn't it over a denial of extension of a contract? That's my recollection.

Yup. Then, supposedly, the GM acted shocked that he quit. Ahum, if you're going to play a bluff, don't be surprised when they lay down their cards and walk away.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Gizzmonic on August 24, 2012, 09:52:18 am
I don't think Jim Riggleman passes the "I'm not a quitter" test.

Yup.  Plus he has the stink of a Cub about him!
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Mr. Happy on August 24, 2012, 11:52:49 am
Yup.  Plus he has the stink of a Cub about him!

Who was the last former Cub manager that we hired? Had to be the Lip, who I loved for his fire. But he didn't last too long due to illness, which brought on the Preston Gomez suck years.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: strosrays on August 24, 2012, 05:40:50 pm
Yup. Then, supposedly, the GM acted shocked that he quit. Ahum, if you're going to play a bluff, don't be surprised when they lay down their cards and walk away.

Right. Riggleman quit.

Fuck him.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Ron Brand on August 24, 2012, 06:00:45 pm
Right. Riggleman quit.

Fuck him.

+1.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Mr. Happy on August 24, 2012, 07:44:55 pm
Right. Riggleman quit.

Fuck him.

+2
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: austro on August 24, 2012, 07:55:36 pm
+2

I'm not so sure. If he told the club that he was quitting if they didn't extend him, and then they didn't extend him, and then he *didn't* quit, wouldn't that be more spineless?
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Ron Brand on August 24, 2012, 08:58:58 pm
I'm not so sure. If he told the club that he was quitting if they didn't extend him, and then they didn't extend him, and then he *didn't* quit, wouldn't that be more spineless?

It was in the middle of the season. He whined about not getting a meeting with the GM, then told the GM that he'd quit if he didn't get a meeting, then he quit and whined about it to the press. If you don't like the job and you want to quit, fine, but don't try to play the victim card. People don't quit those jobs, they retire or they get fired. It's a great job, it's one you want and you ride it as long as you can. If you put yourself in front of the success of the team because you feel like you didn't get respect, well, tough shit. Take it like a man, don't whine about how hurt you feel in the papers.

He quit. Damn few people do, and most of them are burned out or can't handle the pressure and they don't come back. He quit because he didn't feel respected, but he wants back in. That shows me too much ego and it puts him in a very, very small class of guys.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Jose Cruz III on August 25, 2012, 05:44:35 pm
I'm not gonna quote her, but Fredia can spell gobblygoop?
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: subnuclear on August 25, 2012, 05:52:55 pm
I'm not gonna quote her, but Fredia can spell gobblygoop?

Fredia can spell.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on August 25, 2012, 07:48:11 pm
It was in the middle of the season. He whined about not getting a meeting with the GM, then told the GM that he'd quit if he didn't get a meeting, then he quit and whined about it to the press. If you don't like the job and you want to quit, fine, but don't try to play the victim card. People don't quit those jobs, they retire or they get fired. It's a great job, it's one you want and you ride it as long as you can. If you put yourself in front of the success of the team because you feel like you didn't get respect, well, tough shit. Take it like a man, don't whine about how hurt you feel in the papers.

He quit. Damn few people do, and most of them are burned out or can't handle the pressure and they don't come back. He quit because he didn't feel respected, but he wants back in. That shows me too much ego and it puts him in a very, very small class of guys.

I ain't gonna sing his praises but I ain't gonna damn him either. I wasn't there.
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: das on August 28, 2012, 08:15:42 am
Some interesting comments in here re: Riggleman's relationship with the players and how he instructed his hitters to defensively hit the other way:
http://mlb.mlb.com/redirector/article.jsp?ymd=20120827&content_id=37426038&vkey=news_was&c_id=was
Title: Re: Riggleman on the short list
Post by: David in Jackson on August 28, 2012, 08:57:25 am
Saw Riggleman last night managing the Pensacola Blue Wahoos (AA - Reds).  Their SS, Billy Hamilton, is unbelievable.  Just broke professional baseball record for most steals in a season (set by Vince Coleman).  Stole four bags last night.