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Title: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on September 30, 2011, 08:38:16 pm
So the Rangers get torched whilst only getting two hits in the process.

According to the punditry, it's the shadows fault they couldn't hit.  In their home park.  Against a team that plays in a dome.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on September 30, 2011, 11:03:17 pm
Matt Moore just has nasty stuff.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Uncle Charlie on October 01, 2011, 08:42:01 am
It's game 1.  Doesn't matter if they were beat by 1, 5,10, or 20.  The score to start today is 0-0.  In these short series though, they'll have to win today.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 01, 2011, 10:38:33 am
Go Rays.
Fuck the Cardinals.
Fuck the Yankees.
Fuck the Brewers.

That is all.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 01, 2011, 11:50:18 am
Matt Moore just has nasty stuff.

What an absolutely gutsy call by Maddon to start a green rookie with one big league start behind him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 01, 2011, 12:02:49 pm
What an absolutely gutsy call by Maddon to start a green rookie with one big league start behind him.

And in pushing all those chips to the table he gets Price and Shields set up to bring the hammer. Fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Alkie on October 01, 2011, 12:04:36 pm
And in pushing all those chips to the table he gets Price and Shields set up to bring the hammer. Fantastic.

Price has looked like shit recently.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 01, 2011, 12:37:47 pm
Price has looked like shit recently.

One bad start against the Yankees. Don't know if I agree.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 01, 2011, 01:05:54 pm
One bad start against the Yankees. Don't know if I agree.
How can you call that "bad"? He kept them in the ballgame, didn't he? Gave them a chance to come back? That's all you can really ask of a pitcher, y'know?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Alkie on October 01, 2011, 01:22:08 pm
One bad start against the Yankees. Don't know if I agree.

I didn't see the start before, but the 3 unearned runs aside, I heard from someone who saw the game and said Price didn't look good that game either.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: strosrays on October 01, 2011, 01:35:34 pm
What an absolutely gutsy call by Maddon to start a green rookie with one big league start behind him.

I had been hearing (on XM mainly) that Niemann would start Game 1.  Did Madden play a hunch, or was he planning on Moore all along, and MLB/XM just had bad info?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I haven't been able to keep up lately.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: mrpink on October 01, 2011, 01:41:07 pm
Apparently Maddon wanted Davis to start game 1.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Aour6QLzz4gNisgx7MEeUTYRvLYF?slug=jp-passan_rays_rangers_matt_moore_game_one_ALDS_093011
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 01, 2011, 02:04:36 pm
I had been hearing (on XM mainly) that Niemann would start Game 1.  Did Madden play a hunch, or was he planning on Moore all along, and MLB/XM just had bad info?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I haven't been able to keep up lately.

Hunch.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 01, 2011, 02:07:29 pm
How can you call that "bad"? He kept them in the ballgame, didn't he? Gave them a chance to come back? That's all you can really ask of a pitcher, y'know?

Let's just say that he wasn't very sharp. I saw part of his outing, and he was consistently missing his spots and was elevating.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 01, 2011, 07:01:36 pm
Ryan Howard says Fuck You to the Turdinals.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 01, 2011, 07:05:18 pm
What's happening in the Philadelphia-St. Louis game?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 01, 2011, 07:08:13 pm
What's happening in the Philadelphia-St. Louis game?

St Louis got their asses kicked, that's what.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 01, 2011, 07:46:12 pm
St Louis got their asses kicked, that's what.

Music to my ears.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 01, 2011, 10:48:56 pm
Let's just say that he wasn't very sharp. I saw part of his outing, and he was consistently missing his spots and was elevating.
Sorry, I was trying to make a lame joke.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 02, 2011, 01:56:51 am
Sorry, I was trying to make a lame joke.

Well, my sarc-mater hasn't worked in years.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 02, 2011, 05:33:15 pm
Dear Lord,

Please do not let Valverde blow this game.

Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 02, 2011, 05:44:12 pm
Thank you.

Now, about those Astros.....
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 02, 2011, 06:03:56 pm
So, who do you guys all want to make it to the World Series?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 02, 2011, 06:05:09 pm
So, who do you guys all want to make it to the World Series?

I'd be happy with Rays vs Phils.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 02, 2011, 06:12:35 pm
I'd be happy with Rays vs Phils.
Rays vs. _____. I'm not crazy about any of the NL teams. The ones I dislike least are the Dbacks and Phils.

If the Rays get knocked out, Tigers would be next.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 02, 2011, 06:46:47 pm
Phils vs Tigers
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 02, 2011, 06:55:05 pm
I'm a fan of Longoria but also I also like Verlander. As an Astros fan I'm kind of bitter and hate to see upstart teams like the D'Backs, Rays, or Rangers, in the WS. There's even an old school part of me that would like to see a rematch of the 1968 series but I think my hatred for the Cardinals is too great to root for that.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 02, 2011, 07:44:52 pm
So, who do you guys all want to make it to the World Series?

The Yog-Sothoths vs. the Sluts de Boxcar works for me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: mrpink on October 02, 2011, 09:29:21 pm
So, who do you guys all want to make it to the World Series?

Astros.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 02, 2011, 09:45:42 pm
I'm a fan of Longoria but also I also like Verlander. As an Astros fan I'm kind of bitter and hate to see upstart teams like the D'Backs, Rays, or Rangers, in the WS. There's even an old school part of me that would like to see a rematch of the 1968 series but I think my hatred for the Cardinals is too great to root for that.

Fuck the Jakes.

Rays over Phils.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: astrosfan76 on October 03, 2011, 08:07:16 am
So, who do you guys all want to make it to the World Series?

I'd like to see a Rays-Phils series, though I wouldn't care about the NL as long as the Cardinals get bounced well before then.  Though, it would be hard for me to get excited about a series with the D-Backs and I'd rather not see an NL Central team (Brewers) make it.  However it turns out, I'd just like to see the Rays win.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 03, 2011, 09:33:30 am
If the D-backs win the world series my 30-1 August bet would pay off nicely.

However, that wager's on life support now.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 03, 2011, 10:54:58 am
Forearms to the face are "playing the game the right way. (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19824417)

Fuck the Jakes, and doublefuck that sanctimonious prick LaRussa.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: jbm on October 03, 2011, 11:06:29 am
Was a hell of a play by Ruiz.  I think he kept his mask on for the later play at the plate. 

For people who know the rules real well.  Is there a line that the runner can't cross on that play?  For example, what if they came in with a closed fist to Ruiz' face?  Can an ump do something and if he does, what is the penalty?  Just an ejection?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 03, 2011, 11:41:51 am
Ruiz actually put himself into harms way... he jumped in front of the plate right as the ball and runner arrived.  I don't believe a runner should throw a forearm, but as a catcher, if you jump in front of a plate, they (the runner) own the right to get to said plate which includes running right over you.

Ruiz did that for the team and should be applauded.  Now, if the Phils think that the forearm was intentional, then take care of business and send one to the middle of the back of Jay to let him know.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 03, 2011, 01:32:50 pm
I always thought the proper way to steamroll the catcher was shoulder first.

Ruiz is a tough motherfucker. He also did a great job not letting his legs get trapped in a breakable position. That could've been ugly.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 03, 2011, 02:16:37 pm
For people who know the rules real well.  Is there a line that the runner can't cross on that play?  For example, what if they came in with a closed fist to Ruiz' face?  Can an ump do something and if he does, what is the penalty?  Just an ejection?

The runner must be trying to reach the plate (or any other base for that matter).  A runner can't just run up and sucker punch a fielder for the hell of it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 03, 2011, 03:29:56 pm
The runner must be trying to reach the plate (or any other base for that matter).  A runner can't just run up and sucker punch a fielder for the hell of it.

What about of your Alex Rodriguez?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 03, 2011, 04:50:45 pm
What about of your Alex Rodriguez?

I don't think hitting a guy with your purse as you run by counts as anything.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 03, 2011, 09:38:37 pm
First time I've seen Verlander this season. Holy shit, he's amazing. Throwing 98, 99, 100 in the sixth inning, back to back pitches to A-Rod a hair's breadth apart at 98. Yipes.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 03, 2011, 10:12:30 pm
First time I've seen Verlander this season. Holy shit, he's amazing. Throwing 98, 99, 100 in the sixth inning, back to back pitches to A-Rod a hair's breadth apart at 98. Yipes.
I tuned in just in time to see him shit the bed. Damn.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 03, 2011, 10:14:25 pm
I tuned in just in time to see him shit the bed. Damn.
Nice to see them get the lead right back, though. By the way, the other night my wife thought the announcers were calling Delmon "Dumb and Young".
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 03, 2011, 10:15:18 pm
Nice to see them get the lead right back, though. By the way, the other night my wife thought the announcers were calling Delmon "Dumb and Young".

I just call him "One-pitch AB" Young.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 03, 2011, 10:23:19 pm
Geez, Verlander is still bringing it at 100mph in the 8th inning.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 03, 2011, 10:27:51 pm
I just call him "One-pitch AB" Young.
The Astros have several guys who could have that nickname if they shared Young's ability to put the ball in play. Instead it's more like "Three-pitch AB".
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 03, 2011, 10:45:08 pm
I had forgotten how exasperating Valverde can be.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 03, 2011, 10:59:53 pm
I had forgotten how exasperating Valverde can be.

I thought Leyland was going to hurl.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 04, 2011, 09:08:47 am
I had forgotten how exasperating Valverde can be.

I hadn't.  But then I had Verlander on my fantasy team, and had to suffer through Valverde save situations all season.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 04, 2011, 10:36:17 am
First time I've seen Verlander this season. Holy shit, he's amazing. Throwing 98, 99, 100 in the sixth inning, back to back pitches to A-Rod a hair's breadth apart at 98. Yipes.

I've seen him several times this season. I saw him throw 101 in the ninth before.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 04, 2011, 10:53:32 am
I still think the Rangers are winning the whole thing, especially if the Yankees go down.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 04, 2011, 11:29:34 am
This is a mildly intersting set of graphs (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/5524/an-infographic-baseball-playoff-adventure) about the playoff teams.

Seeing what Rule 5(V?) guys end up on playoff teams is always fun, as is the draft/FA balance amongst the teams.

I have no idea what "Cumulative season length of the playoff teams" means.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BUWebguy on October 04, 2011, 11:43:41 am
I have no idea what "Cumulative season length of the playoff teams" means.

Cool link -- thanks. I'm guessing maybe that's adding up the length of all 162 games for each team?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 11:45:30 am
Cool link -- thanks. I'm guessing maybe that's adding up the length of all 162 games for each team?

Bingo.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 11:46:08 am
This is a mildly intersting set of graphs (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/5524/an-infographic-baseball-playoff-adventure) about the playoff teams.

Looking at the number of international signings on the Yankees makes me weep for what we no longer do.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 04, 2011, 12:01:51 pm
Looking at the number of international signings on the Yankees makes me weep for what we no longer do.

Fucking foreigners!!  Coming here...taking our jobs!!

Eh? Oh.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 04, 2011, 04:14:36 pm
Well, I guess the Rays blew their wad in game 163.  Sigh.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 04:17:39 pm
Bye, Rays.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 04, 2011, 05:15:17 pm
Well, I guess the Rays blew their wad in game 163.  Sigh.
The 7-0 comeback? That was Game 162.

Fuckin' Rangers. The epitome of American League ball.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 05:30:28 pm
Fuckin' Rangers. The epitome of American League ball.

Maybe, but they pitch their asses off.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 04, 2011, 05:58:31 pm
The 7-0 comeback? That was Game 162.

Fuckin' Rangers. The epitome of American League ball.

I was referring to the 9-0 blowout in game 1.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 04, 2011, 06:19:33 pm
Good old predictable Tanked Commander, burned by the backfired IBB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA4YWZHmNl0) once again.  Jakes down 3-0, middle of 7th.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 04, 2011, 06:31:15 pm
Phils over Co-ards
Brewers over Snakes
Phils in a great series over Brewers

Rays over Rangers (yeah, I've been hanging out with Shaefer, what of it... *cough, cough* hehe, I'm hungry)
Tigers over Yanks
Tigers over Rays

Phils and Tigers in the world series.... Tigers win!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 04, 2011, 06:33:03 pm
BTW - I had the Rays before today's game so hence what I posted.  So just keeping it real.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 04, 2011, 06:34:04 pm
BTW - I had the Rays before today's game so hence what I posted.  So just keeping it real.

Your a good man, Charlie Brown.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 04, 2011, 07:45:23 pm
Game over, 3-2 Phils.  Oswalt set to end another Jakes' season tomorrow night at Busch.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 04, 2011, 07:58:23 pm
Ok, that was annoying. Somehow the disaster that is A.J. Burnett escaped the first inning without allowing any runs.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 04, 2011, 08:07:50 pm
Game over, 3-2 Phils.  Oswalt set to end another Jakes' season tomorrow night at Busch.

He's done it before.  Can he do it again?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 04, 2011, 08:26:05 pm
Ok, that was annoying. Somehow the disaster that is A.J. Burnett escaped the first inning without allowing any runs.

I can't figure out either Burnett or Lackey.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 04, 2011, 08:34:03 pm
I can't figure out either Burnett or Lackey.
If you could, I bet their teams would pay you a LOT of money.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 08:44:50 pm
I can't figure out either Burnett or Lackey.

Lackey's a terrible person.  Karma happens.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 04, 2011, 08:57:21 pm
If you could, I bet their teams would pay you a LOT of money.

But how could two effective pitchers go south so quickly?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 04, 2011, 08:59:36 pm
What a luck and skillful play by Porcello and Betemit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 04, 2011, 09:00:55 pm
What a luck and skillful play by Porcello and Betemit.

I'm still not convinced that he touched the bag.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 09:03:58 pm
I'm still not convinced that he touched the bag.

Martin didn't on the 2-run double.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 04, 2011, 09:09:36 pm
Martin didn't on the 2-run double.

Yeah, it looked like his hand might have bounced over the plate.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 09:13:22 pm
Yeah, it looked like his hand might have bounced over the plate.

Missed third.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 04, 2011, 09:17:17 pm
AJ Burnett is one ugly motherfucker.  He's not quite Julian Tavarez level ugly, but he's up there.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 04, 2011, 09:18:10 pm
He's not quite Julian Tavarez level ugly

Only Otis Nixon was, in my experience.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 04, 2011, 09:25:17 pm
Only Otis Nixon was, in my experience.

You've got that right. Nixon is one ugly duck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 04, 2011, 09:41:56 pm
In a year of losing, I like to point out any Astros victory.

Zeke Estacio.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 04, 2011, 09:51:37 pm
In a year of losing, I like to point out any Astros victory.

Zeke Estacio.

What? That was just Jeff Bagwell in a bad mask.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: mrpink on October 04, 2011, 11:27:01 pm
Lackey's a terrible person.  Karma happens.
Holy crap, thank God for Google. I was about to respond with, "His wife has cancer, how the FUCK do you call that karma?" Never mind however; he is a terrible person.

In other news, how the fuck did Goldschmidt not get drafted until the 8th round?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 05, 2011, 07:07:06 am
Lackey's a terrible person. 

John Edwards thinks he's an okay guy. So does Newt.
Title: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: geezerdonk on October 05, 2011, 08:48:47 am
Ogando is getting into Zeke territory.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 05, 2011, 11:14:52 am
This is a mildly intersting set of graphs (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/5524/an-infographic-baseball-playoff-adventure) about the playoff teams.

Seeing what Rule 5(V?) guys end up on playoff teams is always fun, as is the draft/FA balance amongst the teams.

I have no idea what "Cumulative season length of the playoff teams" means.

Of the 8 franchises without a World Series title, 6 have been to the World Series.  3 of those 6 made the playoffs this year, and the Brewers and Rangers have a chance to make the Astros' World Series drought group a little smaller.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 05, 2011, 11:39:49 am
Inane playoff factoid: 3 of the 4 starters going tonight had a 3.69 ERA this year (Oswalt, Wolf, and Saunders); the other had a 3.79 (Jackson).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 05, 2011, 01:51:54 pm
Brewers and Rangers have a chance to make the Astros' World Series drought group a little smaller.

Good.  Ladies first.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 05, 2011, 07:51:27 pm
He's done it before.  Can he do it again?


Negative, Ghostrider.

Pitchers   IP    H    R   ER   BB   SO   HR   PC-ST   ERA
R Oswalt
(L, 0-1)   6.0     6     5    5    1    5      1     82-56      7.50
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: believin on October 05, 2011, 09:01:37 pm
Arizona hits grand slams in 4 straight home games.
Wow.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 06, 2011, 09:26:19 am

Negative, Ghostrider.

Pitchers   IP    H    R   ER   BB   SO   HR   PC-ST   ERA
R Oswalt
(L, 0-1)   6.0     6     5    5    1    5      1     82-56      7.50

Philadelphia...meet Roy "All Mouth and No Trousers" Oswalt.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 06, 2011, 01:46:44 pm
Philadelphia...meet Roy "All Mouth and No Trousers" Oswalt.

I'm not so sure I agree with this.  Roy, for all his faults as a pitcher known for throwing teammates under the bus for lousy performances, was not "all mouth" when it came to put up or shut up.  He put up... a lot of times, including the one game that got him a tractor from the owner.  I think the problem with Roy now is that the nagging injury to his back has made him suspect as an ACE-like pitcher.  He's pretty average on some days and others days if his curveball isn't spinning the wrong way, he's pretty darn good.  The thing is, what Roy Oswalt takes the hill on any given day is anyone's guess now.

He pretty pitches like a guy who is hurting to me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 06, 2011, 01:51:13 pm
"Oswalt innings" had an excuse?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 06, 2011, 02:00:42 pm
"Oswalt innings" had an excuse?

"I think the problem with Roy now..."
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 02:46:29 pm
"I think the problem with Roy now..."

But what Coach was pointing out was that didn't explain his bad innings, ostensibly before back pain crept into his life.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 06, 2011, 03:24:37 pm
But what Coach was pointing out was that didn't explain his bad innings, ostensibly before back pain crept into his life.

But that is not entirely about what I posted either.  I said Roy Oswalt, much as I would love to bash him for those incidents of macho bravado that lead to Oswalt innings (including in the World Series), Roy did have much more successes as an Astros than failures.  But to me, today... right now... what Phillie fans have to root for.... is indeed a less than 100% Roy Oswalt.  To tell a Phillie fan that this is how Roy has always been is not something I can agree with 100%.  The Phillie Roy is a shell of what he once was because of the gimpy back.  Any player would be.  Same as the Lance Berkman with the gimpy knees is not the same as he used to be as an Astro.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 03:42:34 pm
But that is not entirely about what I posted either.  I said Roy Oswalt, much as I would love to bash him for those incidents of macho bravado that lead to Oswalt innings (including in the World Series), Roy did have much more successes as an Astros than failures.  But to me, today... right now... what Phillie fans have to root for.... is indeed a less than 100% Roy Oswalt.  To tell a Phillie fan that this is how Roy has always been is not something I can agree with 100%.  The Phillie Roy is a shell of what he once was because of the gimpy back.  Any player would be.  Same as the Lance Berkman with the gimpy knees is not the same as he used to be as an Astro.

I agree with you on this score. I just saw Coach's point.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 08:52:29 pm
I agree with you on this score. I just saw Coach's point.

Roy didn't like Angel's charging him with a ball instead of a no pitch when the squirrel crossed the plate. My question: What the fuck is the Angel of death doing in the playoffs. Country Joe is there too. Where's fucking CB?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 06, 2011, 09:39:12 pm
the squirrel

I had it all planned.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 09:57:08 pm
I had it all planned.

If you had planned it well, you would have taken a bite out of one of Roy's nuts, being a nut lover and all. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2011, 10:05:46 pm
This Yankees-Tigers game is taking forever, but quite dramatic.

Down 3-1 in the bottom of the seventh, the Yanks load the bases with one out.  A-Rod K's, Texieria walks to put the tying run 90 feet away.

And Swisher...  K's as well.

Awesome.  Hang in there, Tigres.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 06, 2011, 10:06:30 pm
Can't believe Benoit got out of that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 10:15:42 pm
This Yankees-Tigers game is taking forever, but quite dramatic.

Down 3-1 in the bottom of the seventh, the Yanks load the bases with one out.  A-Rod K's, Texieria walks to put the tying run 90 feet away.

And Swisher...  K's as well.

Awesome.  Hang in there, Tigres.

I hate the fucking Yankees. Go Tigers!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 10:16:18 pm
Can't believe Benoit got out of that one.

He had to. It was too early for Valverde.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:18:38 pm
This Yankees-Tigers game is taking forever, but quite dramatic.

Down 3-1 in the bottom of the seventh, the Yanks load the bases with one out.  A-Rod K's, Texieria walks to put the tying run 90 feet away.

And Swisher...  K's as well.

Awesome.  Hang in there, Tigres.

I agree.  Go Tigers!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:20:12 pm
Can't believe Benoit got out of that one.

Twas a nailbiting situation...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:25:17 pm
Dadgum announcers are doing all they can to jinx the Tigers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: believin on October 06, 2011, 10:26:36 pm
I agree.  Go Tigers!!

+1
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:27:54 pm
+1

Don't stop!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2011, 10:28:19 pm
Holy shit, Jeter with the warning track power.

Great showing by Benoit.  I will now chug pepto in anticipation of Valverde.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 10:29:28 pm
Dadgum announcers are doing all they can to jinx the Tigers.

They're so obviously in the tank for the Yankmes, it's sickening. Fucking Jeter almost put the fucking Yankmes in front. BUT  HE DIDN'T!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:30:33 pm
Holy shit, Jeter with the warning track power.

Great showing by Benoit.  I will now chug pepto in anticipation of Valverde.


CHUG!! CHUG!! CHUG!! CHUG!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 10:31:57 pm

CHUG!! CHUG!! CHUG!! CHUG!!

No shit!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:32:02 pm
Shut the fuck up about Jetah already.  It was an OUT.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:32:56 pm
No shit!

No, he said Pepto, not Kaopectate or Immodium.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 06, 2011, 10:36:59 pm
I had not heard the Valverde for MVP argument before.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2011, 10:37:23 pm
No shit!

At Griff's everyone is no doubt doing a water moccasin shot.  That's Valverde's signature.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 06, 2011, 10:42:34 pm
Valverde was fucking clinical.

What a game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:42:41 pm
He did it!!

Tigers win!!

Love that it was at Yankee stadium!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 06, 2011, 10:42:47 pm
Some nice pitching there.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 10:42:53 pm
Valverde!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 06, 2011, 10:42:57 pm
PAPA GRANDE!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: believin on October 06, 2011, 10:44:11 pm
Man, that was good game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 06, 2011, 10:45:31 pm
Sore losers!!!! Fuck you Yankee bastards!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 06, 2011, 10:47:02 pm
Man, that was good game.

Yes it was.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 06, 2011, 10:53:23 pm
Fuck you Yankees.  Viva Grande!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 06, 2011, 10:56:51 pm
I hadn't realized that Papa Grande was 49 for 49 in save opportunities this year.  I wonder if any other former Astros closer has gone 49 for 49 in save opportunities within 2 years after being the Astros closer. Hmmmm...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 06, 2011, 11:27:48 pm
I hadn't realized that Papa Grande was 49 for 49 in save opportunities this year.  I wonder if any other former Astros closer has gone 49 for 49 in save opportunities within 2 years after being the Astros closer. Hmmmm...

Nope.  Valverde is the only one who did that.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 07, 2011, 02:07:48 pm
I really enjoyed ARod not looking upset at all in the dugout post-game.

"See you guys next Spring! Can't wait to go home and think about banging Madonna!"
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 02:45:54 pm
I really enjoyed ARod not looking upset at all in the dugout post-game.

"See you guys next Spring! Can't wait to go home and think about banging Madonna!"

It was great watching him fail in two crucial situations. And not just to fail, but to fail by whiffing.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 07, 2011, 02:47:07 pm
It was great watching him fail in two crucial situations. And not just to fail, but to fail by whiffing.

That would be a whiffail?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 07, 2011, 05:08:01 pm
That would be a whiffail?

Epiwhiffail.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 07, 2011, 07:45:45 pm
5 games wasn't enough for the Snakes-Brewers.

The shitbirds jump out to an early lead.  Cocksuck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 07, 2011, 07:49:58 pm
Nyjer please.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Fredia on October 07, 2011, 07:55:59 pm
nightmare on playoff street..auggg..someone light a candle
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 07, 2011, 07:56:27 pm
Shitfuck, Putz! Brewers win!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 07, 2011, 08:15:13 pm
While I'm a little dismayed that the D-Backs lost after having good chances, and I'm annoyed that the Cards have jumped out to an early lead, it's going to take a lot more than that to remove my smile resulting from A-Rod's strikeout to end the Yankees' season.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 08:33:11 pm
Phillies are the fucking Fiat of playoff teams.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 08:41:11 pm
Utley gets plunked, but Thunder Pants follows up with a first-pitch FC.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: jnh on October 07, 2011, 09:14:32 pm
Shitfuck, Putz! Brewers win!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=311007108

"Despite 78-degree temperatures and sunny conditions at game time, the retractable roof to Miller Park was closed."

hmmm...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 07, 2011, 09:16:41 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=311007108

"Despite 78-degree temperatures and sunny conditions at game time, the retractable roof to Miller Park was closed."

hmmm...

That line may piss me off more than almost anything else I read this decade.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 07, 2011, 09:17:27 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=311007108

"Despite 78-degree temperatures and sunny conditions at game time, the retractable roof to Miller Park was closed."

hmmm...

So insulting.  Fuck him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 07, 2011, 09:18:58 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=311007108

"Despite 78-degree temperatures and sunny conditions at game time, the retractable roof to Miller Park was closed."

hmmm...
I heard them say that. Gee, where the hell was Bud, ordering them to open the roof?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: moriartp on October 07, 2011, 09:39:57 pm
Epiwhiffail.

Why are we speaking Welsh all of a sudden?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 07, 2011, 09:44:26 pm
Halladay great there.  Lance, f your hair
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 09:53:28 pm
Fucking Phillies. There's no way this should be happening.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 07, 2011, 09:55:17 pm
The Phillies bottom of the order has been bleak in this series. How could this juggernaut go cold when it counts the most?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 09:56:23 pm
The Phillies bottom of the order has been bleak in this series. How could this juggernaut go cold when it counts the most?

Chokers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 07, 2011, 09:58:00 pm
Pence has beem grounding out a lot this series. Who knew he did that?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 07, 2011, 10:06:02 pm
Brew crew vs cards is going to suck to watch
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 10:06:58 pm
Brew crew vs cards is going to suck to watch

Just another part of a magical season.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 07, 2011, 10:09:09 pm
Just another part of a magical season.

Shit sammich.  Didn't think carp would be all tatted
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 07, 2011, 10:11:17 pm
Fucking hell, this means I have to root for goddamn Braun?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 07, 2011, 10:11:39 pm
Fuck Carpenter, that cocky fuckface.

Way to fall flat, Phils. Their fans must be feeling real great about Howard's contract right now.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 07, 2011, 10:13:00 pm
I'm thinking Philadelphia is kind of a shitty place to be a sports fan right now given the performance of their two "dream teams."
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 07, 2011, 10:15:50 pm
Fucking hell, this means I have to root for goddamn Braun?

Fuck that. Go Tigers!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 07, 2011, 10:15:59 pm
I'm thinking Philadelphia is kind of a shitty place to be a sports fan right now given the performance of their two "dream teams."

fifm.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 07, 2011, 10:16:23 pm
Fuck that. Go Tigers!

Oh I completely agree, but the Tigers are not playing the Jakes next week.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 08, 2011, 12:18:52 am
I heard them say that. Gee, where the hell was Bud, ordering them to open the roof?

To be fair, Bud only stepped in during the World Series, since MLB owned that or something.  Apparently, the MLB doesn't own League Championship Series or League Division Series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 08, 2011, 12:20:34 am
Fuck that. Go Tigers!

The Tigers are the only non-annoying team left.   I actually don't mind the Rangers.  It's their city full of Delta Bravos that pisses me off.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 08, 2011, 09:28:06 am
Conjuring up inner SEC Fan....

NL CENTRAL!!
NL CENTRAL!!
NL CENTRAL!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 08, 2011, 10:20:17 am
The Tigers are the only non-annoying team left.   I actually don't mind the Rangers.  It's their city full of Delta Bravos that pisses me off.
I don't mind the Rangers players per se. It's Lynn Nolan and his methodical evil agenda to swallow the Astros fanbase that pisses me off.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: juliogotay on October 08, 2011, 01:08:27 pm
I don't mind the Rangers players per se. It's Lynn Nolan and his methodical evil agenda to swallow the Astros fanbase that pisses me off.

The Rangers have created a juggernaut. Their ML team is fairly young with an ownership, of which Ryan only has about 5%, that says they will pay for players. Their farm system is among the best. They should be good for awhile. Having said that, Go Tigers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: astrosfan76 on October 08, 2011, 08:03:51 pm
With the NLCS matchup, I felt left with a team I despise and a team I really felt ambivalent toward (though I was hoping the D-Backs would have shut their team up in Game 5).  This article, however, makes me respect the Brewers a lot more and they at least for now, have my backing (which could be a curse, if you ask the Rays and Phillies).  Oh, and Nyjer Morgan, I'm looking to you to do something memorable against the Cards; great memorable or stupid memorable, I don't care which.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/15705462/cards-vs-brewers-in-nlcs-think-thrilla-in-manila-baseballstyle
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 09, 2011, 01:10:54 pm
With the NLCS matchup, I felt left with a team I despise and a team I really felt ambivalent toward (though I was hoping the D-Backs would have shut their team up in Game 5).  This article, however, makes me respect the Brewers a lot more and they at least for now, have my backing (which could be a curse, if you ask the Rays and Phillies).  Oh, and Nyjer Morgan, I'm looking to you to do something memorable against the Cards; great memorable or stupid memorable, I don't care which.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/15705462/cards-vs-brewers-in-nlcs-think-thrilla-in-manila-baseballstyle
Eh, Fuck 'em both. All I care about is that they both lose their last game.

...okay, maybe I slightly prefer the Cards to lose theirs first.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 09, 2011, 03:51:16 pm
I'll say it now.  The Rangers are going to win the whole fucking thing. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 09, 2011, 04:04:15 pm
I'll say it now.  The Rangers are going to win the whole fucking thing. 

You didn't have to tell us, did you?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 09, 2011, 04:07:06 pm
Please note, I am not happy about it at all.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 10, 2011, 07:59:00 pm
Please note, I am not happy about it at all.

Fucking Rangers.

Who knew that a billionaire businessman would be so completely outsmarted by a small-town country boy who could chunk a ball real hard? McLane did some good things, but ultimately he killed this club so dead that it has to go to the American League. Thanks a goddamn truckload, Grocer.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 10, 2011, 08:28:55 pm
God damn Rangers! Shitfuck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 10, 2011, 08:56:41 pm
In my living memory I have never not watched a world series.  Cards-Rangers might do that to me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: believin on October 10, 2011, 09:23:25 pm
In my living memory I have never not watched a world series.  Cards-Rangers might do that to me.

I know.  The 2011 postseason has been excruciating. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 10, 2011, 09:24:53 pm
What a shitty fucking year of baseball.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 10, 2011, 09:56:01 pm
For me, what makes this even harder to swallow is that the Jakes can partly thank your Houston Astros for bending over so graciously in that last series, and especially that godawful final game, and putting them into the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 10, 2011, 10:43:44 pm
For me, what makes this even harder to swallow is that the Jakes can partly thank your Houston Astros for bending over so graciously in that last series, and especially that godawful final game, and putting them into the playoffs.

Hey, temper that one with the realization that of all those ex-Astros in the playoffs, the team that is going to win it all doesn't have one on their roster.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 10, 2011, 11:15:43 pm
I wonder what Robin Ventura is thinking tonight as "First ever walk-off Grand Slam in postseason history" goes across the scroll at the bottom of the screen and will be repeated elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 10, 2011, 11:38:32 pm
I wonder what Robin Ventura is thinking tonight as "First ever walk-off Grand Slam in postseason history" goes across the scroll at the bottom of the screen and will be repeated elsewhere.

With a name like Robin, he probably wasn't ever going to get to second base anyway.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: believin on October 11, 2011, 12:08:57 am
With a name like Robin, he probably wasn't ever going to get to second base anyway.

Especially since Lynn Nolan was there to stop him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 11, 2011, 08:24:42 am
I wonder what Robin Ventura is thinking tonight as "First ever walk-off Grand Slam in postseason history" goes across the scroll at the bottom of the screen and will be repeated elsewhere.

That's what he gets for being a cocksucking Met.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 11, 2011, 08:40:56 am
Hey, temper that one with the realization that of all those ex-Astros in the playoffs, the team that is going to win it all doesn't have one on their roster.

The ex-Astro just owns the roster.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 11, 2011, 09:06:25 am
With a name like Robin, he probably wasn't ever going to get to second base anyway.

That's pretty funny.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 11, 2011, 09:07:35 am
The ex-Astro just owns the roster.

Exactly.  Exactly this.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 11, 2011, 09:16:49 am
At least I don't have to endure taunting. I've got two mousy coworkers, one of whom I have a lot of respect for, and they're both giddy about the Rangers. One of them wears a team shirt every day they play, often a hat as well. They both scurry in every morning to go over the previous game and then to talk about what's coming up, all bright-eyed and filled with wonder and anticipation and happiness. I look at them and remember what that was like, unable to wait for the next game because it was going to be so much fun.

Then I realize what the hell is going on here, I'm watching the fucking takeover right before my eyes and it is like the seventh round of a fifteen-round beating.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 11, 2011, 10:06:24 am
Then I realize what the hell is going on here, I'm watching the fucking takeover right before my eyes and it is like the seventh round of a fifteen-round beating.

War's over, man.  Nolan dropped the big one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 11, 2011, 10:09:53 am
War's over, man.  Nolan dropped the big one.

Yeah, but we've got eight more rounds of pounding to go before this crap is over.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 11, 2011, 10:13:42 am
War's over, man.  Nolan dropped the big one.

Ryan??? DEAD!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 11, 2011, 10:25:46 am
For me, what makes this even harder to swallow is that the Jakes can partly thank your Houston Astros for bending over so graciously in that last series, and especially that godawful final game, and putting them into the playoffs.

If they need to thank anyone, it's the Phillies.  Their sweep for the Braves in the final series let the Jakes in.  Then their failure to score runs in the NLDS let the Jakes through.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 11, 2011, 10:55:47 am
If they need to thank anyone, it's the Phillies.  Their sweep for the Braves in the final series let the Jakes in.  Then their failure to score runs in the NLDS let the Jakes through.

That's what you get when you make Thunderpants your 3 hitter.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 11, 2011, 10:57:50 am
That's what you get when you make Thunderpants your 3 hitter.

Yep.  I presume watching Pence swing from the on-deck circle is what fucked up Howard, in the same way that watching Derek Bell at-bats used to fuck up my golf swing (I'm serious).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 11, 2011, 11:15:46 am
Yep.  I presume watching Pence swing from the on-deck circle is what fucked up Howard, in the same way that watching Derek Bell at-bats used to fuck up my golf swing (I'm serious).

When you can see your watch on your backswing, commence Operation Shutdown.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jose Cruz III on October 11, 2011, 02:37:36 pm
Phils over Co-ards
Brewers over Snakes
Phils in a great series over Brewers

Rays over Rangers (yeah, I've been hanging out with Shaefer, what of it... *cough, cough* hehe, I'm hungry)
Tigers over Yanks
Tigers over Rays

Phils and Tigers in the world series.... Tigers win!
Man your bracket got crapped on.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Noe on October 11, 2011, 09:13:35 pm
Man your bracket got crapped on.

You say that as if it is not a regular occurrence for me and brackets/playoff predictions/RFTL picks.  You are gen-u-wine-lee surprised?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 11, 2011, 09:27:49 pm
Boy, the Tigers are getting some swings tonight.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 11, 2011, 09:34:09 pm
Boy, the Tigers are getting some swings tonight.

When I left, Cabrera looked completely lost. I hope they wake up for good after this.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 11, 2011, 11:06:56 pm
When I left, Cabrera looked completely lost. I hope they wake up for good after this.

As an aside, I noticed the scoreboard lists Miguel Cabrera as 240 lbs.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jose Cruz III on October 12, 2011, 06:20:15 am
You say that as if it is not a regular occurrence for me and brackets/playoff predictions/RFTL picks.  You are gen-u-wine-lee surprised?
Just another reason to hate the Turds.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 12, 2011, 07:56:07 am
The Onion AV Club has it right:

Quote
Brewers at Cardinals (TBS, 8 p.m.): We're totally unbiased about which team should win the NLCS (it's the Brewers), because we don't want to antagonize any of you (who don't like the Brewers), and we value all of our readers (just not the ones in St. Louis). It's game three, with the series tied up 1-1.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 12, 2011, 08:28:39 am
The Onion AV Club has it right:

Hard to argue with logic like that.  Go Brewers!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 12, 2011, 06:48:26 pm
Shouldn't Detroit close their roof?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 12, 2011, 07:03:44 pm
I'm wondering* how the Brewers keep winning the prime time lottery.

*Not really.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 12, 2011, 07:19:02 pm
Detroit just went all Astroish
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 12, 2011, 07:24:13 pm
Detroit just went all Astroish

Hey! Someone's sporting some stylish headgear!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 12, 2011, 07:38:20 pm
I am ready to root for the AL in the WS this year. I can't cheer for either NL team. Actually, I may just not care.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 12, 2011, 07:40:07 pm
Why wouldn't DH Prince lead the Brewers to the AL, where they belong?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 12, 2011, 07:47:18 pm
Why wouldn't DH Prince lead the Brewers to the AL, where they belong?

The answer I've seen is because Milwaukee had a long NL tradiition. So you see the kind of lying bastards we're dealing with here.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 12, 2011, 07:53:00 pm
The answer I've seen is because Milwaukee had a long NL tradiition. So you see the kind of lying bastards we're dealing with here.

Houston has been in the NL longer than the Milwaukee clubs. Remember, the Braves started out in Boston. I ain't buying it, Bud. You shitface.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 12, 2011, 07:58:21 pm
Ha ha! No sooner had the words "It would be unusual for Inge to pull Ogando" left McCarver's lips than Inge pulled to LCF for a homer.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 12, 2011, 07:59:46 pm
The answer I've seen is because Milwaukee had a long NL tradiition.

The club that's in Atlanta now? Because the team they've got now started life in Seattle as an AL team. Fuckers. But they've learned that in today's world if you just keep repeating shit, people will come to believe it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 12, 2011, 08:30:32 pm
Heck of a throw by Cruz to get Cabrera at the plate in the bottom of the 8th. Gave Napoli plenty of time to set up for the collision.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 12, 2011, 08:34:37 pm
Heck of a throw by Cruz to get Cabrera at the plate in the bottom of the 8th. Gave Napoli plenty of time to set up for the collision.

Shut up.  It sucked.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 12, 2011, 08:46:59 pm
Lot of pitches for Benoit but he got them through it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 12, 2011, 08:55:00 pm
Nine fouls by Santiago in that AB.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 12, 2011, 09:22:12 pm
Valverde's save streak is still intact. Unfortunately for him, his win streak isn't.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 12, 2011, 09:22:17 pm
Nelson Cruz's bat is the one that says BAMF on it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 12, 2011, 09:26:16 pm
I really miss when the Rangers were a joke.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 13, 2011, 01:39:16 am
The answer I've seen is because Milwaukee had a long NL tradiition. So you see the kind of lying bastards we're dealing with here.
Their "long NL tradition" moved to Atlanta.  We are talking about the Seattle Pilots here.  They do not even have a short tradition.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 13, 2011, 06:46:12 am
Can't get the sour grape taste out of my mouth, but, I guess I hate the Brewers more than the Cards. Thanks Bud.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 08:07:27 am
I guess I hate the Brewers more than the Cards.

This should not be possible.

However, my strongest preference would be for the Brewers to win it all, but Bug gets excluded from the ceremony.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 13, 2011, 08:08:59 am
This should not be possible.

However, my strongest preference would be for the Brewers to win it all, but Bug gets excluded from the ceremony.

I'm still pulling for a Tigers/Brewers Series, but I think BG is right.  Rangers will win this thing.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 08:28:04 am
Right now I'm not even sure where I stand on a Jakes - Rangers series. Hoping for another earthquake, maybe.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 08:44:02 am
Right now I'm not even sure where I stand on a Jakes - Rangers series. Hoping for another earthquake, maybe.

Fuck the Jakes.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 08:47:38 am
Fuck the Jakes.

Well, yeah, but fuck the Rangers too.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 13, 2011, 08:48:13 am
Fuck the Jakes.

+1
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 08:51:16 am
Well, yeah, but fuck the Rangers too.

Fuck the Jakes is rule one.  I can at least be happy for the people in my life that ended up Rangers fans, misguided as it may be.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 08:53:52 am
Fuck the Jakes is rule one.  I can at least be happy for the people in my life that ended up Rangers fans, misguided as it may be.

Ok, but Fuck the Creeping Malaise That Is The Ranger Takeover doesn't sound as snappy.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 13, 2011, 09:05:51 am
Since I like to go to bed before midnight, I'm hoping that LaRussa doesn't come anywhere near the WS. What an overbearing, micromanaging SOB.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 13, 2011, 09:18:50 am
I still think the Rangers are winning the whole thing, especially if the Yankees go down.

9 days later and it's becoming more and more obvious.  The Rangers right now are by far the best team left.  The Rangers remind me of the 1998 Astros ... just starting to win and have a great core that expects to be good for the next decade.  Except they don't have to deal with John Smoltz, Kevin Brown, and Kevin Millwood each having the games of their lives, and Glavine and Maddux in their primes.   I know, WFW.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 13, 2011, 09:25:46 am
9 days later and it's becoming more and more obvious.  The Rangers right now are by far the best team left.  The Rangers remind me of the 1998 Astros ... just starting to win and have a great core that expects to be good for the next decade.  Except they don't have to deal with John Smoltz, Kevin Brown, and Kevin Millwood each having the games of their lives, and Glavine and Maddux in their primes.   I know, WFW.

If only the '98 Astros got that far. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2011, 09:57:26 am
Fuck the Jakes is rule one.  I can at least be happy for the people in my life that ended up Rangers fans, misguided as it may be.

So Mrs MM is a Rangers fan.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 10:03:56 am
So Mrs MM is a Rangers fan.

No, but my brother is.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 13, 2011, 10:05:54 am
i do not begrudge Ranger fans their success. we had a chance to keep Ryan an Astro twice and ran him off both times. the Rangers' rise to the top is completely Houston's fault.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 13, 2011, 10:10:03 am
i do not begrudge Ranger fans their success. we had a chance to keep Ryan an Astro twice and ran him off both times. the Rangers' rise to the top is completely Houston's fault.

What was the second time?  If his objective was to own a team and the Rangers were ripe, was there a way to keep him an Astro?  Was a deal with Drayton an option at the time?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2011, 10:19:11 am
Ok, but Fuck the Creeping Malaise That Is The Ranger Takeover doesn't sound as snappy.

FTCMTITRT works
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 13, 2011, 10:54:51 am
What was the second time?  If his objective was to own a team and the Rangers were ripe, was there a way to keep him an Astro?  Was a deal with Drayton an option at the time?

that is my point. Drayton was so jealous of Ryan by then that he would not consider selling to him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 13, 2011, 10:56:34 am
Fuck the Jakes is rule one.  I can at least be happy for the people in my life that ended up Rangers fans, misguided as it may be.

This may not make me popular in certain circles around here, but I'm going to root for the NL.  Whomever that may be.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 13, 2011, 11:06:18 am
This may not make me popular in certain circles around here, but I'm going to root for the NL.  Whomever that may be.

i am right there with you, HH. you're my idol.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 13, 2011, 12:18:44 pm
"Yankees-Phillies Playing Sad Little World Series of Their Own"

 -- The Onion (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/yankees-phillies-playing-sad-little-world-series-o,26355/)
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 05:13:03 pm
Verlander at 96 pitches through five, tied 2-2. Leyland says Benoit and Valverde are off-limits today, he's going to ride Verlander as long as he can.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 13, 2011, 05:27:04 pm
Verlander at 96 pitches through five, tied 2-2. Leyland says Benoit and Valverde are off-limits today, he's going to ride Verlander as long as he can.
Wow. Six innings was almost too long, there. I'm listening on the radio- how hard-hit was the Kinsler DP ball?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 13, 2011, 05:57:06 pm
Gameday says Verlander just threw 5 consecutive changeups to strike out Josh Hamilton. Damn.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 06:18:54 pm
Wow. Six innings was almost too long, there. I'm listening on the radio- how hard-hit was the Kinsler DP ball?

Fairly routinely hit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 06:19:52 pm
Gameday says Verlander just threw 5 consecutive changeups to strike out Josh Hamilton. Damn.

Yeah, he'd leaned on his change a lot more in the last two innings, looks like he's got a couple of different versions of the pitch. And then he threw a 99 mph fastball and a 100mph fastball in the eighth, for pitches #132 and #133...but the last one was a two-run HR to Cruz.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 13, 2011, 06:44:49 pm
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit. Tigers win!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 13, 2011, 07:59:55 pm
Pullin for the wolf man tonight but not bud.  cards have two solo shots so far
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 13, 2011, 08:01:59 pm
Pullin for the wolf man tonight but not bud.  cards have two solo shots so far
Yeah. Wolf reminds me that there are a few Brewers I can root for. Him, Hawkins, Craig Counsell I guess...um. Carlos Gomez?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 13, 2011, 08:29:01 pm
Pullin for the wolf man tonight but not bud.  cards have two solo shots so far

Clap for the wolf man.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 13, 2011, 09:03:25 pm
The gratuitous shot of Jim "Reach-Around" Edmonds in the stands was totally uncalled for.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 13, 2011, 09:03:54 pm
Clap for the wolf man.

I'm for any pitcher throwing in the 60's.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 13, 2011, 09:15:22 pm
Yeah. Wolf reminds me that there are a few Brewers I can root for. Him, Hawkins, Craig Counsell I guess...um. Carlos Gomez?

Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with Prince Fielder?  Dude can rake and seems pretty well-spoken in the interviews I've seen.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 09:27:19 pm
I'm for any pitcher throwing in the 60's.

Gibson? Koufax? McClain?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 13, 2011, 09:27:36 pm
I'm for any pitcher throwing in the 60's.

Last half inning, the tbs gun clocked him at 90 on a high heater. Jus sayin
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lefty on October 13, 2011, 09:31:35 pm
Gibson? Koufax? McClain?

Jim?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2011, 09:32:18 pm
Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with Prince Fielder?

No. And from my many years around here I am quite certain that I am the only person who doesn't have any particular problem with Braun, either. I don't have any particular problem with the Brewers other than their association with that cocksucker Selig.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 09:34:21 pm
No. And from my many years around here I am quite certain that I am the only person who doesn't have any particular problem with Braun, either. I don't have any particular problem with the Brewers other than their association with that cocksucker Selig.

I have no problem with Braun, and reiterate my position that a Brewers world championship is the most desirable outcome, so long as Selig gets excluded from the ceremony.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2011, 09:37:38 pm
I have no problem with Braun, and reiterate my position that a Brewers world championship is the most desirable outcome, so long as Selig gets excluded from the ceremony.

Closely followed by a Tigers championship and the news that Selig has been arrested on child pornography charges.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 13, 2011, 09:38:06 pm
Closely followed by a Tigers championship and the news that Selig has been arrested on child pornography charges.

Given the latter, I'm OK with anyone winning.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 13, 2011, 09:39:28 pm
Given the latter, I'm OK with anyone winning.

Or just a homosexual love affair with Craig sager.  Think of the children.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 13, 2011, 09:42:34 pm
No. And from my many years around here I am quite certain that I am the only person who doesn't have any particular problem with Braun, either. I don't have any particular problem with the Brewers other than their association with that cocksucker Selig.

Also, they're not Cardinals.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2011, 09:42:42 pm
Or just a homosexual love affair with Craig sager.  Think of the children.

For some reason this brought to mind the image of Selig - Sager offspring which naturally led to my considering which of the two would be tasked with dressing them. I'm not sure there is a preferable scenario.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2011, 09:44:10 pm
Also, they're not Cardinals.

Quite so. Just think, once the Astros move to the AL we can root against the Cardinals guilt-free whenever they reach the World Series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 13, 2011, 09:44:49 pm
For some reason this brought to mind the image of Selig - Sager offspring which naturally led to my considering which of the two would be tasked with dressing them. I'm not sure there is a preferable scenario.

I'm not so worried about the kid's attire, but I'm glad someone is.

/stabs eyes out
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 13, 2011, 09:48:35 pm
I'm not so worried about the kid's attire, but I'm glad someone is.

I was inspired by hostros to think of the children.

Friends, sending that boy to school in a neon pink blazer and a pair of scruffed brown Rockports with white tube socks is not going to do him any favors.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 13, 2011, 10:08:26 pm
I don't have any problem with Fielder, but only the constant reaffirmation of my intense Card hatred is making me able to stomach rooting for Bud's team. I'd still gladly watch the Tigers trounce either one of them.

MM: How would Selig be excluded from the ceremony? Isn't he normally the trophy presenter?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 13, 2011, 10:12:43 pm
MM: How would Selig be excluded from the ceremony? Isn't he normally the trophy presenter?

Quit making sense, man.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Arky Vaughan on October 13, 2011, 10:30:00 pm
I don't have any problem with Fielder, but only the constant reaffirmation of my intense Card hatred is making me able to stomach rooting for Bud's team. I'd still gladly watch the Tigers trounce either one of them.

MM: How would Selig be excluded from the ceremony? Isn't he normally the trophy presenter?

A case of stink palm might keep him away. Any volunteers?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 13, 2011, 10:34:13 pm
I'm happy for Wolf. Great game for him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 14, 2011, 01:33:22 am
Hey, temper that one with the realization that of all those ex-Astros in the playoffs, the team that is going to win it all doesn't have one on their roster.

What, Darren Oliver's 2004 drive-by didn't endear you to him?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 14, 2011, 03:24:36 am
This may not make me popular in certain circles around here, but I'm going to root for the NL.  Whomever that may be.
I've been trying to get there but I just can't.  I grew up near Detroit, but when I moved I started following the NL more ... especially since I arrived in Texas about when the Colt 45's did.  1968 was like heaven, but it really did not lure me back.  Then the Senators showed up while I was overseas; they almost won me back, but not quite.  Even the chance to see an ALDS game at Arlington (with Clemens getting the win for the hated Yankme's) could not sway me from my NL loyalty.

All of that said, though, the defection of Round Rock and the impending/threatened move of the Astros to the junior circuit is really messing with my loyalties.  Rooting for the Cardinals is almost unthinkable (see 1968 reference above) and I will NOT root for Bud's Beermen.  And on top of everything, the only two teams I care about in the AL are the ones left standing.  So ...

This may not make me popular in certain circles around here, but I'm going to root for the AL.  Whomever that may be.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 14, 2011, 03:26:24 am
Gibson? Koufax? McClain?
Satchel Paige
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: roadrunner on October 14, 2011, 07:23:20 am
Here's a nice little attempt

saveourstros.org
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 14, 2011, 08:05:05 am
Here's a nice little attempt

saveourstros.org

/signed
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BizidyDizidy on October 14, 2011, 09:44:03 am
Here's a nice little attempt

saveourstros.org

Oh thank god, I was wondering when an online petition would save us
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 14, 2011, 12:10:35 pm
2011 Playoffs Trivia:

Without looking, name the one LCS team that has scored more runs than their opponents in this postseason.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Fredia on October 14, 2011, 12:16:02 pm
anyone have a way to just cancel this years world serues would make my headache a lot better
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 14, 2011, 12:19:23 pm
anyone have a way to just cancel this years world serues would make my headache a lot better
An earthquake might do it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on October 14, 2011, 12:56:31 pm
An earthquake might do it.

Uhh... Oakland v. San Fran, circa 1989??
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 14, 2011, 01:26:11 pm
MM: How would Selig be excluded from the ceremony? Isn't he normally the trophy presenter?

I'm talking fantasyland, here.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 14, 2011, 01:49:03 pm
Uhh... Oakland v. San Fran, circa 1989??
ding. ding. DING.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on October 14, 2011, 03:00:05 pm
ding. ding. DING.

My Sarc-O-Meter must be busted. They finished that series, no?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 14, 2011, 09:04:30 pm
Okay, this is annoying me... who the hell is the color commentary guy in the booth on these TBS games that sounds exactly like Rudy Giuliani?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 14, 2011, 11:48:53 pm
Okay, this is annoying me... who the hell is the color commentary guy in the booth on these TBS games that sounds exactly like Rudy Giuliani?
Isn't it John Smoltz and Ron Darling? I've been wondering who the PBP guy is...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 15, 2011, 07:42:43 pm
Nelson Cruz has been locked in this series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 15, 2011, 08:04:23 pm
Nelson Cruz has been locked in this series.

He must be cheating somehow.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 15, 2011, 08:11:48 pm
It's been said over and over, but I'm going to say it again: Tim McCarver is an idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 15, 2011, 08:30:34 pm
It's been said over and over, but I'm going to say it again: Tim McCarver is an idiot.

McCarver has me fucking screaming at the TV. McCarver said that Santiago's play was to 1B-he didn't notice that Cabrera also wentfor the ball so there was no one at first. YOU FUCKING FOOL!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 15, 2011, 08:32:32 pm
This game got ugly faster than a butt-faced cheetah on crank.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 15, 2011, 08:43:43 pm
Well, this is the same deficit the Rays overcame to win the Wild Card in Game 162. No problem, right?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 15, 2011, 09:05:01 pm
McCarver is close to making me turn off the sound.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 15, 2011, 09:12:20 pm
Nelson Cruz has been locked in this series.

A little too late for my fantasy team....darnit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 15, 2011, 09:22:17 pm
This game got ugly faster than a butt-faced cheetah on crank.

This. This right here. SFN
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 15, 2011, 09:31:06 pm
This game got ugly faster than a butt-faced cheetah on crank.

Yep.  I agree.  Jetah is butt-faced.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 15, 2011, 10:00:16 pm
Fuck the rangers. Fuck the jakes. Fuck this year.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 15, 2011, 10:04:57 pm
Fuck the rangers. Fuck the jakes. Fuck this year.

The more that I think about it, the more pissed off about this whole season. I hate both the Jakes and the Rangers. Shitfuck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 15, 2011, 10:05:18 pm
Cruz with another one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 16, 2011, 07:19:48 pm
Soooooooooo... Jakes vs Rangers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: moriartp on October 16, 2011, 07:39:49 pm
Soooooooooo... Jakes vs Rangers.

*click*
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: roadrunner on October 16, 2011, 07:40:09 pm
Soooooooooo... Jakes vs Rangers.

And I thought this year couldn't get any worse.  JUST END IT ALREADY
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 16, 2011, 07:56:38 pm
Hmm, Brewers not going down without a fight.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 16, 2011, 08:13:31 pm
Where is the damn game? I'm getting this insipid X Factor shit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 16, 2011, 08:23:34 pm
Where is the damn game? I'm getting this insipid X Factor shit.

TBS, my friend.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 16, 2011, 08:26:00 pm
Somewhat to my surprise I've discovered that I will have no major problem rooting for the Jakes over the Rangers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 16, 2011, 08:41:33 pm
TBS, my friend.

Thank you. Apparently I had been managing to hit commercials every time I was running the channels hunting for it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 16, 2011, 08:43:50 pm
Somewhat to my surprise I've discovered that I will have no major problem rooting for the Jakes over the Rangers.

I agree. I'm going to always pull for the NL team, even if the Astros move to the AL, unless, of course, the Astros are in the WS.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 16, 2011, 08:55:16 pm
I agree. I'm going to always pull for the NL team, even if the Astros move to the AL, unless, of course, the Astros are in the WS.

I suspect that the Rangers are going to destroy the StL pitching.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 16, 2011, 08:59:34 pm
I suspect that the Rangers are going to destroy the StL pitching.

I agree, and that will be worth watching. Seeing Drinkin' Dave and CoRussa wobbling out to the hill a bunch will be a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 16, 2011, 09:01:57 pm
Where's that money coming from, Steve?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 16, 2011, 09:32:39 pm
Where's that money coming from, Steve?

I want to wring that fucking biddy's neck every time that I see that spot.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 16, 2011, 09:55:19 pm
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the unbelievably, overwhelmingly over-played "theme song" to the 2011 playoffs.  Dear lord it is terrible.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BatGirl on October 16, 2011, 10:18:36 pm
this year's world series is dead to me
dead.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 16, 2011, 11:26:30 pm
I want to wring that fucking biddy's neck every time that I see that spot.

Right.  And the whole premise is a marketing ploy that insults the intelligence of every person watching.

"It's Free! ....
when I signed us up for a 2 year commitment of $200/month.
It's Free!"
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Arky Vaughan on October 17, 2011, 12:43:01 am
And I thought this year couldn't get any worse.  JUST END IT ALREADY

When the BBGs take their vengeance, they do so wearing 15-inch strap-ons without lubrication or the courtesy of a reach-around. The worst Astros team in franchise history, the Rangers winning their second consecutive pennant (one more than Houston, the Metroplex bandwagon would surely add), and the Cardinals winning another pennant. Combine that with the Rockets and the Texans, and this is one absolutely terrible time to be a sports fan in Houston (and a Horns fan too). I'm sure the dozen or so World Series titles, Super Bowl victories, NBA rings and BCS championships the Astros, Texans, Rockets and Horns will combine for over the next decade will make it all worth it, and we will look back and realize this was all just a bad dream.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 17, 2011, 07:57:59 am
When the BBGs take their vengeance, they do so wearing 15-inch strap-ons without lubrication or the courtesy of a reach-around. The worst Astros team in franchise history, the Rangers winning their second consecutive pennant (one more than Houston, the Metroplex bandwagon would surely add), and the Cardinals winning another pennant. Combine that with the Rockets and the Texans, and this is one absolutely terrible time to be a sports fan in Houston (and a Horns fan too). I'm sure the dozen or so World Series titles, Super Bowl victories, NBA rings and BCS championships the Astros, Texans, Rockets and Horns will combine for over the next decade will make it all worth it, and we will look back and realize this was all just a bad dream.

UT had one bad season this decade.  No sniveling.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: roadrunner on October 17, 2011, 08:15:31 am
When the BBGs take their vengeance, they do so wearing 15-inch strap-ons without lubrication or the courtesy of a reach-around. The worst Astros team in franchise history, the Rangers winning their second consecutive pennant (one more than Houston, the Metroplex bandwagon would surely add), and the Cardinals winning another pennant. Combine that with the Rockets and the Texans, and this is one absolutely terrible time to be a sports fan in Houston (and a Horns fan too). I'm sure the dozen or so World Series titles, Super Bowl victories, NBA rings and BCS championships the Astros, Texans, Rockets and Horns will combine for over the next decade will make it all worth it, and we will look back and realize this was all just a bad dream.

Houston sports: expect the worst, multiply that by 10 and that's what actually happens
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 17, 2011, 08:26:31 am
Somewhat to my surprise I've discovered that I will have no major problem rooting for the Jakes over the Rangers.

I think it's because if you don't like either team, you root for the outcome that makes the Astros look better, which is clearly the Cardinals.  

1) NL Team    
2) Rangers and Astros are two of only eight franchises without a World Series and only six with at least one pennant but no World Series titles.  So the whole misery loves company aspect.
3) The whole Astros-to-the-AL-West debacle would get even worse if the Rangers won the World Series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: jbm on October 17, 2011, 08:36:53 am
All that, and the suspicion of Ryan's involvement in the move to the AL. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 17, 2011, 09:07:11 am
We're splitting hairs here. The difference between a four-game Pujols smirk, more golden leaves in the Tank Commander's crown and Berkman hitting a couple of walk-off home runs vs. Ryan's erasure of the Astros is a pair of shitty choices indeed.

It is clear though. We must pull for the Cardinals to win.

I may never stop throwing up.

Fuck this. I'm going fishing.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 17, 2011, 09:11:51 am
It is clear though. We must pull for the Cardinals to win.

We are at war with the National League.  We have always been at war with the National League.

There are five lights.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 17, 2011, 09:32:28 am
We are at war with the National League.  We have always been at war with the National League.

There are five lights.

There are FOUR LIGHTS!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 17, 2011, 09:38:46 am
There are FOUR LIGHTS!

/Nerd alert:

Everyone always forgets that Picard admits at the end that he could see five lights.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 17, 2011, 09:55:17 am
Houston sports: expect the worst, multiply that by 10 and that's what actually happens

I'm not sure its the worst. Would you trade them for the DC franchises? What about the Seattle Franchises?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 17, 2011, 10:09:28 am
I think it's because if you don't like either team, you root for the outcome that makes the Astros look better, which is clearly the Cardinals.  

1) NL Team    
2) Rangers and Astros are two of only eight franchises without a World Series and only six with at least one pennant but no World Series titles.  So the whole misery loves company aspect.
3) The whole Astros-to-the-AL-West debacle would get even worse if the Rangers won the World Series.

nothing makes this year's Astros team look better. the cardinals can burn in the green flames of my jealous hatred.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: roadrunner on October 17, 2011, 10:39:13 am
I'm not sure its the worst. Would you trade them for the DC franchises? What about the Seattle Franchises?


The Nats are at least showing some hope in the near future.  The Seahawks made a playoff run last year (albeit, a 7-9 season). 

I think the only way this season could be worse for Astros fans is if Crane announced he was moving the team to the Metroplex.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 17, 2011, 11:02:24 am
All that, and the suspicion of Ryan's involvement in the move to the AL. 
I only attended one game when Ryan was playing--this pitch got away from Ryan and it looked like the guy he hit was going to take his base but then didn't. I loved that Ryan's family owned the Express and really wished drayton found a way to keep Mr. Ryan associated with the Astros. I only have respect and admiration for Ryan as a player, businessman, robin ventura batterer, and owner. Also, my youngest brother is a deep and true Ranger fan and it was great to get to attend the WS game that the Rangers won with him. But all that goodwill fucking stops if the Astros share a division with the Rangers. I don't know if Ryan is involved in the push to get the Astros into the goddamn AL (I assume he is for the fuck all nothing that it's worth),. But if the Astros do end up in the same division then fuck goddamn Nolan Ryan involved or not. Yes, I prefer the NL to the AL, but if the Astros are in the AL then fuck it, they are my team hello DH may I have another. Angels, Mariners, and A's mean less than a brad pitt baseball movie that I will never see but so what. But the Rangers, well I'm just going to keep assuming that Mr. Ryan wanted the Astros in the AL west and I'm ready to hate them day one.  Don't have enough love in my dark three-chambered heart for another team.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 17, 2011, 11:13:22 am
I only attended one game when Ryan was playing--this pitch got away from Ryan and it looked like the guy he hit was going to take his base but then didn't. I loved that Ryan's family owned the Express and really wished drayton found a way to keep Mr. Ryan associated with the Astros. I only have respect and admiration for Ryan as a player, businessman, robin ventura batterer, and owner. Also, my youngest brother is a deep and true Ranger fan and it was great to get to attend the WS game that the Rangers won with him. But all that goodwill fucking stops if the Astros share a division with the Rangers. I don't know if Ryan is involved in the push to get the Astros into the goddamn AL (I assume he is for the fuck all nothing that it's worth),. But if the Astros do end up in the same division then fuck goddamn Nolan Ryan involved or not. Yes, I prefer the NL to the AL, but if the Astros are in the AL then fuck it, they are my team hello DH may I have another. Angels, Mariners, and A's mean less than a brad pitt baseball movie that I will never see but so what. But the Rangers, well I'm just going to keep assuming that Mr. Ryan wanted the Astros in the AL west and I'm ready to hate them day one.  Don't have enough love in my dark three-chambered heart for another team.

FYI, Your "Enter" key is broken
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 17, 2011, 11:26:31 am
FYI, Your "Enter" key is broken
go
fuck
yourself

nope. works just fine.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 17, 2011, 11:31:49 am
go
fuck
yourself

nope. works just fine.

Damn.  Was really hoping it wasn't user error.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 17, 2011, 11:41:26 am
Damn.  Was really hoping it wasn't user error.
its that kind of baseless hope that can lead to being an Astros fan. fucking pandora bitch.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 17, 2011, 12:32:00 pm
Fucking Pandora bitch. I like it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 17, 2011, 12:43:54 pm
Fucking Pandora bitch. I like it.
thanks.

(this space intentionally left blank for lurch)

I had a hard time choosing between "fucking Pandora bitch" and "Fuck Pandora and (or perhaps in) her hopeless box." but the first one felt right and I went with it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 18, 2011, 07:45:59 am
Looks like I'm headed to Dallas for the game on Saturday.  I'm usually conflicted about rooting for the Rangers, but not this time!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 18, 2011, 09:02:02 am
Looks like I'm headed to Dallas for the game on Saturday.  I'm usually conflicted about rooting for the Rangers, but not this time!
At least you get to root against the Cardinals. I hope you have a great time.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 18, 2011, 12:33:36 pm
At least you get to root against the Cardinals. I hope you have a great time. 're spared when the stadium implodes.

FIFY
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Fredia on October 18, 2011, 05:30:33 pm
someone needs to come up with an all former astro in the playoff there
seems to be a whole bunch of em
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 18, 2011, 06:18:30 pm
someone needs to come up with an all former astro in the playoff there
seems to be a whole bunch of em
Outside of ownership I don't think the rangers have any ex-Astros and the cardinals only have berkman and dotel  unless I missed somebody. Of the 320 players who were on the 40 man rosters I noticed Valverde on the Tigers and Hawkins and Randy Wolf on the Brewers. I don't think the Rays or Yanks have any former Astros. PENCE, Oswalt, and Lidge are at philly. probably  missed a few.
I think it seems like more because some of the guys got mentioned a lot in the postseason press. Oswalt got caught near a squirrel without a .22 handy, which apparently puts this particular Mississippi boy off his feed and  Valverde revealed his psychic powers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 19, 2011, 01:54:48 pm
someone needs to come up with an all former astro in the playoff there
seems to be a whole bunch of em

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ex-Astros+in+2011+Playoffs
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 19, 2011, 01:57:43 pm
Outside of ownership I don't think the rangers have any ex-Astros

Cabrera's an ex-Astro. (http://www.spikesnstars.com/forums/index.php?topic=113483.msg403719#msg403719)
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 19, 2011, 07:48:02 pm
This series is really happening? Fuck.

So what's the consensus here? Who should I root against?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 19, 2011, 08:05:40 pm
So what's the consensus here? Who should I root against?

I was already leaning this way because of LaRussa and Pujols, but the other night they showed a shot of McGwire in the dugout. I had managed to forget about him, but when they reminded me, I had no choice but to pull for the Rangers to completely destroy the Cardinals. The Rangers and Ryan are annoying, but at least so far they haven't risen to the level where I automatically pull against them. Ordinarily I'd be pulling for the NL team, but LaRussa trumps that. It would take the Yankees or the Red Sox to trump LaRussa.

ETA: fixed the spelling of McGwire's name.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 19, 2011, 08:05:47 pm
I'm an NL guy. I always root for the NL team 99% of the time. I really dislike La Russa, Pujols, and Molina... I really like Ron Washington, Young, and Kinsler. I don't like the DFW Rangers but I hate the Cards. I almost don't care who wins but the Texas Astros fan in me really doesn't want to see the DFW Rangers and Lynn Nolan win the World Series. So I'm an NL guy
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 19, 2011, 08:16:56 pm
That was bizarre: the fist bounce off of Berkman's bat was foul (just past the LH batter's box) and then it wound up landing fair behind first base. I don't think it was so far outside that he hit it when it was that far foul (i.e., I don't think it went on a straight line from the bat to the first bounce to bounce behind first base), so it must have had some hook spin on it even though he hit it the opposite way.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 19, 2011, 08:29:07 pm
Nap O Lee! Man he crunched that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 19, 2011, 08:32:10 pm
Ok, props to Fox: that was cool. They showed an infrared image of Pujols AB where he fouled the ball off his heel, and you could see his heel light up when the ball hit it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 19, 2011, 08:36:59 pm
So I'm sitting here, watching Jakes/Nolans, drinking a pumpkin beer and the only reason I can't hear Schmuck/McCockslurper is because my in-laws insist on talking loudly whenever the TV is on.  FML.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 19, 2011, 08:41:44 pm
This series is really happening? Fuck.

It feels about as wrong as watching hardcore gay porn.  With Joe Buck calling the PBP.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 19, 2011, 08:46:21 pm
So I'm sitting here, watching Jakes/Nolans, drinking a pumpkin beer and the only reason I can't hear Schmuck/McCockslurper is because my in-laws insist on talking loudly whenever the TV is on.  FML.

We need to have a WS watch party in Houston.  So we can sit and bitch about whatever team is at bat.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 19, 2011, 08:57:18 pm
It feels about as wrong as watching hardcore gay porn.  With Joe Buck calling the PBP.

I just threw up on my mother-in-law. Thank you.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 19, 2011, 09:02:24 pm
I just threw up on my mother-in-law. Thank you.

Maybe now she will shut up and you can watch the game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 19, 2011, 09:08:49 pm
Reason #1 why the NL is far superior. LaGenius chose to shelve Carpenter in the 6th for a 2-on, 2-out pinch hitter. That's it - I'm rooting against the Rangers. I won't root for the Jakes, but I'll root against their opponent this series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 19, 2011, 09:10:47 pm
And it worked.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 19, 2011, 09:13:49 pm
And it worked.

Barely. Clever foot trap by Cruz. I'm sure it was intentional.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 19, 2011, 09:20:57 pm
That's it - I'm rooting against the Rangers. I won't root for the Jakes, but I'll root against their opponent this series.

In the immortal words of Clark Griswold:

"I think you're all fucked in the head!"
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 19, 2011, 09:23:53 pm
So, because his last name is spelled crazy, they had to misspell his first name, too?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 19, 2011, 09:31:31 pm
So, because his last name is spelled crazy, they had to misspell his first name, too?

How else do you spell Molina?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 19, 2011, 09:35:31 pm
How else do you spell Molina?

D-O-U-C-H-E-B-A-G
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 19, 2011, 09:45:48 pm
Eh.  I'm rooting for the NL with closed eyes.

I guess that means I'm rooting against the Rangers with open eyes.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 19, 2011, 09:51:30 pm
Arthur Rhodes is still on the fucking cardinals?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 19, 2011, 09:53:44 pm
Arthur Rhodes is still on the fucking cardinals?

Yeah, but the Rangers are paying 1.1 million of his salary while the Cards are only paying $100,000. 

Almost makes me want to cheer for him.....but he is a Jake....

I just can't root FOR anyone in this game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Aussie Astro on October 19, 2011, 10:09:26 pm
Did I see a hockey team where the fans wear paper bags over their heads?

Is that what is needed here?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 19, 2011, 10:16:24 pm
Noe, why is FOX playing their NFL football theme music for this baseball world series?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 19, 2011, 11:27:17 pm
It feels about as wrong as watching hardcore gay porn.
NTTAWWT
With Joe Buck calling the PBP.
Man, that is fucked up.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 20, 2011, 12:09:47 am
Highlight of the game broadcast: Fuckwad McCarver blurting out that strike was a five letter word. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 20, 2011, 01:21:08 am
Anyone catch Berkman's postgame interview where he was asked what it's like to be a role model on the team?  Anyway, he transitioned to talking about who his role models were when he was coming up with the Astros?  He mentioned Jeff Bagwell, Brad Ausmus, and Bill Spiers as guys he looked up to.  Interesting whose name he left off.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 20, 2011, 01:21:32 am
While I am nominally rooting for the Jakes I found myself cheering any time something happened because I knew that one side was going to be disappointed. It was all quite confusing yet strangely satisfying to a misanthrope like me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 20, 2011, 05:52:55 am
In-laws yammering > Schmuck/McCockslurper
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on October 20, 2011, 07:23:57 am
I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm pulling for the Jakes.  Nolan has worked too hard to force AL ball down my Texan throat. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 20, 2011, 09:25:25 am
Anyone catch Berkman's postgame interview where he was asked what it's like to be a role model on the team?  Anyway, he transitioned to talking about who his role models were when he was coming up with the Astros?  He mentioned Jeff Bagwell, Brad Ausmus, and Bill Spiers as guys he looked up to.  Interesting whose name he left off.

Hasn't the consensus always been that Bagwell was the stronger leader in the clubhouse when both he and Biggio were on the team?  By the time Bagwell was gone, Berkman probably didn't feel that he needed any more role models.  Which is half the problem.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 20, 2011, 09:54:47 am
Hasn't the consensus always been that Bagwell was the stronger leader in the clubhouse when both he and Biggio were on the team?  By the time Bagwell was gone, Berkman probably didn't feel that he needed any more role models.  Which is half the problem.
There could be more to it than that. I have a vague memory of Biggio mentioning PENCE and omitting Berkman when he was talking about the the future team leaders.Few people do anything with more seriousness and commitment than Biggio showed while playing baseball. It's easy to imagine their different degrees of commitment causing friction.

Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 20, 2011, 11:38:37 am
Hasn't the consensus always been that Bagwell was the stronger leader in the clubhouse when both he and Biggio were on the team?  By the time Bagwell was gone, Berkman probably didn't feel that he needed any more role models.  Which is half the problem.

i think the consensus was that Biggio was a clubhouse lawyer who caused problems for managers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Rebel Jew on October 20, 2011, 12:06:37 pm
I just threw up on my mother-in-law. Thank you.

wait, is this part of the hardcore gay porn that joe buck would be calling or your hypothetical reaction to watching it? and if it's the latter, then why would you be watching a hardcore gay porn with your mother-in-law, especially one that has joe buck doing the pbp?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 20, 2011, 12:24:19 pm
It feels about as wrong as watching hardcore gay porn. 

I was waiting for the girls to come, but the girls never came...THE GIRLS NEVER CAME!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 20, 2011, 12:27:05 pm
Hasn't the consensus always been that Bagwell was the stronger leader in the clubhouse when both he and Biggio were on the team?  By the time Bagwell was gone, Berkman probably didn't feel that he needed any more role models.  Which is half the problem.

He had a poster of Cecil Fielder in his locker.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 20, 2011, 12:32:40 pm
He had a posterlife size statue made of chocolate of Cecil Fielder in his locker.

FIFY.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Matt on October 20, 2011, 12:44:50 pm
Noe, why is FOX playing their NFL football theme music for this baseball world series?

The same reason they play their NFL theme music during EPL soccer games?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 20, 2011, 12:56:05 pm
I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm pulling for the Jakes.  Nolan has worked too hard to force AL ball down my Texan throat. 

Can't say I'm rooting for the Jakes, but think I probably would've been pulling for the stRangers but-for my (perhaps misguided) belief that Nolan has been pushing way too hard to make this HOU to the AL thingie happen...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 20, 2011, 12:59:30 pm
He had a posterlife size statue made of chocolate of Cecil Fielder in his locker.
FIFY.
I wonder if it bothers Prince Fielder  to be near the man who consumed a chocolate replica of his estranged father.  After hitting a single Fielder has a man standing somewhere behind him who may or may not understand that Fielder is not made of chocolate. And this man is hungry, he has not eaten his preferred quantity of chocolate for a year. Very motivating to go for extra bases and keep some distance.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 20, 2011, 01:26:59 pm
I wonder if it bothers Prince Fielder  to be near the man who consumed a chocolate replica of his estranged father.  After hitting a single Fielder has a man standing somewhere behind him who may or may not understand that Fielder is not made of chocolate. And this man is hungry, he has not eaten his preferred quantity of chocolate for a year. Very motivating to go for extra bases and keep some distance.
He's dealt with something similar before. (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/cc-sabathia-prince-fielder-keep-imagining-each-oth,2493/)
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 20, 2011, 02:43:35 pm
The Dugout on Joe Buck (http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/10/the-dugout-world-series-2011-game-1#more-68502).  Spot. On.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: moriartp on October 20, 2011, 04:04:55 pm
The Dugout on Joe Buck (http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/10/the-dugout-world-series-2011-game-1#more-68502).  Spot. On.

That's spectacular.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2011, 04:15:21 pm
I'm pretty sure that I'll spend most of this evening saying "Fuck you, JoeBoo!".
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 20, 2011, 04:24:35 pm
The Dugout on Joe Buck (http://withleather.uproxx.com/2011/10/the-dugout-world-series-2011-game-1#more-68502).  Spot. On.

Hilarious!!! Up your butt, JoeBoo!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: T. J. on October 20, 2011, 08:36:58 pm
Holy Shit there is some leather being thrown around in this game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2011, 08:42:30 pm
I suspect that the Rangers are going to destroy the StL pitching.

Allow me to mock myself.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 20, 2011, 08:51:28 pm
Holy Shit there is some leather being thrown around in this game.

Jeff Kent is going to break this one up with a walkoff.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 20, 2011, 09:03:07 pm
It's fuckers like Allen Craig and Nick Punto that make the coards annoy me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 20, 2011, 09:09:55 pm
It's fuckers like Allen Craig and Nick Punto that make the coards annoy me.

Eckstein
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: T. J. on October 20, 2011, 09:14:57 pm
Who is this pitbull guy and why does he do nothing but try to sell beverages to me?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2011, 09:15:55 pm
Eckstein

Fernando Vina
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 20, 2011, 09:17:41 pm
Who is this pitbull guy and why does he do nothing but try to sell beverages to me?

He just wants you to have a real good time.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 20, 2011, 09:31:03 pm
Fernando Vina

Wasn't he the shitty little pissant?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 20, 2011, 09:32:22 pm
Wasn't he the shitty little pissant?

Yup.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 20, 2011, 09:37:51 pm
And we go to the ninth frame. 1-0 Shitbirds.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 20, 2011, 09:46:09 pm
Good baseball.  Molina has a feckin cannon.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 20, 2011, 09:47:16 pm
Fucking Jakes, gonna throw this one away.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 20, 2011, 09:47:49 pm
Good baseball.  Molina has a feckin cannon.

Recanted, horrible mistake by the cards
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: T. J. on October 20, 2011, 09:47:54 pm
Great baserunning by Andrus.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: T. J. on October 20, 2011, 09:49:51 pm
When I'm put in charge of baseball, all TV angles will be shown from behind home plate. I have never understood why we can't see the entire fucking game on TV.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 20, 2011, 10:03:55 pm
Gerald Laird, pinch runner.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 20, 2011, 10:23:01 pm
The Rangers chances at winning the World Series went from about 40% to 80% in a span of 20 minutes.  The last image of Pujols at Busch Stadium may be a mental blunder and him staring blankly in the dugout.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 21, 2011, 08:39:15 am
The last image of Pujols at Busch Stadium may be a mental blunder and him staring blankly in the dugout.

Gee, that's too bad. Breaks my heart.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 21, 2011, 09:12:34 am
Gee, that's too bad. Breaks my heart.

I cackled.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 21, 2011, 09:15:17 am
One of my Ranger fan coworkers - every day, wearing a gaudy Ranger shirt and Ranger hat - was happy that they'd got the split in St. Louis. We share astonishment at many of Ron Washington's moves, but then he allowed as how 'strategy doesn't mean a lot in AL ball.' That truth was mitigated by his glee that the Rangers finally have a team that can RUN. He's excited because this team is SO FAST and they win so many games with their speed.

AL fever. Catch it!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 21, 2011, 09:17:30 am
Berkman, Pujols, Molina and Holliday all skipped out on the post-game media session to go lick their wounds.  Classy.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 21, 2011, 09:19:32 am
Berkman, Pujols, Molina and Holliday all skipped out on the post-game media session to go lick their wounds.  Classy.

That's leadership at its finest.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 21, 2011, 09:22:10 am
That's leadership at its finest.

Leadership that starts at the top.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 21, 2011, 09:37:55 am
That's leadership at its finest.


Pujols displays zero leadership after Game 2 loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_pujols_world_series_game_two_cardinals_102011)


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Motte talked for nearly 30 minutes, tackling the same questions again and again, most of them about what this means to the Cardinals’ hopes, something better addressed by someone who has won and lost a World Series and might know.

Across the way was Jay, in his second season. He made the throw to Pujols. It wasn’t a great one. Jay said he “pulled it a little bit.” He felt bad. He executed poorly. He also stood behind it. In fact, Jay said, he had talked about it on the bench with Pujols.

“We both said we should’ve probably did a little bit better,” Jay said.

There, too, were Craig and Freese, both kids themselves, going through the ringer. Combined, Motte, Jay, Craig and Freese have less experience in the major leagues than Pujols. Together, they make about 1/10th the money he does. Also absent were Yadier Molina, Matt Holliday and Lance Berkman, 28 seasons of major league service among them.

They could disappear because of the culture Pujols created, one the organization enables. St. Louis manager Tony La Russa empowers Pujols to do what he pleases, right or wrong, even if it’s the equivalent of ordering the lobster-stuffed filet and sticking the minimum-wage worker with the bill. He will face no discipline. He never does. That is life with Pujols, and the Cardinals’ Omertà means nobody calls him on it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ty in Tampa on October 21, 2011, 09:42:18 am

Pujols displays zero leadership after Game 2 loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_pujols_world_series_game_two_cardinals_102011)

This is tipping my scales. I think I can find glee with the Rangers winning if the good feeling in St. Louie gets a large turd laid on it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Guinness on October 21, 2011, 09:50:24 am
This is tipping my scales. I think I can find glee with the Rangers winning if the good feeling in St. Louie gets a large turd laid on it.

I was saying to the same sort of thing to Mrs Pete last night--anything that makes Cardinal fans unhappy, I'm good with.  Anything that makes Rangerfan unhappy, I'm good with too.  I was really hoping for extra innings last night, so all the Jake fans in the stands would have to sit there until midnight, not get home until after one, and have a real shitty day today because of it.  A loss in the 9th works just as well.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jacksonian on October 21, 2011, 09:57:34 am
Personally, I was glad to see well-pitched real NL type baseball.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 21, 2011, 09:59:46 am

Pujols displays zero leadership after Game 2 loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_pujols_world_series_game_two_cardinals_102011)



May I remind all those of you that temporarily lost your damn minds to support that collection of shit from St. Louis:

Jakes will always, ALWAYS be jakes.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on October 21, 2011, 10:13:22 am

Pujols displays zero leadership after Game 2 loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_pujols_world_series_game_two_cardinals_102011)



... and Passan is known for his excellent reporting....

I have no intention of being a Jake apologist.  However, past work does not reflect well on the Author.  I'm reserving judgement for now...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 21, 2011, 10:18:53 am
May I remind all those of you that temporarily lost your damn minds to support that collection of shit from St. Louis:

Jakes will always, ALWAYS be jakes.

Yes they will, win or lose. If the Rangers were swept or beaten decisively though, it would have helped blunt the takeover. If the Rangers win, the Jakes will still be Jakes but the Rangers will have the hot hand to slide all the way up the Astros' collective colon.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 21, 2011, 10:20:49 am
... and Passan is known for his excellent reporting....

I have no intention of being a Jake apologist.  However, past work does not reflect well on the Author.  I'm reserving judgement for now...

How about from this guy? (http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/127327240231976961)

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There is no excuse for Cards who bailed on postgame media session. It was their only media obligation of the day; lack of accountability.

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Every Texas player who had hand in Game 1 loss answered post-game questions--Ogando, German, etc., etc. The Cards lose and 20 pct. no-shows.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Outlawscotty on October 21, 2011, 10:50:35 am
Fernando Vina

Spiezio
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 21, 2011, 11:06:04 am
Spiezio

Julián Tavárez
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 21, 2011, 11:29:10 am

Pujols displays zero leadership after Game 2 loss (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_pujols_world_series_game_two_cardinals_102011)


Tags just retweeted: "@JeffFletcher1: Berkman just called into XM to defend Pujols. Said media should have requested him in interview room."
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 21, 2011, 11:32:20 am
Tags just retweeted: "@JeffFletcher1: Berkman just called into XM to defend Pujols. Said media should have requested him in interview room."

Are you fucking kidding me, Lance?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 21, 2011, 11:38:10 am
Are you fucking kidding me, Lance?

The metamorphosis is complete.  He's now Lance Jakeman.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jacksonian on October 21, 2011, 11:42:48 am
The metamorphosis is complete.  He's now Lance Jakeman.

I thought he always was.  It was just that Bagwell's shadow hid him so well all you could see was the snack machine.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 21, 2011, 11:45:35 am
He's now Lance Jakeman.

You've done it again old boy, pip pip.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 21, 2011, 11:51:43 am
Fuck every single player in this stupid fucking World Series. I'm not rooting for the Goddamn Fucking Cardinals, and I'm not rooting for the Massive Bandwagon of Cocksmokes known as the Rangers.

Das, I need you to conjure up a tornadocane over DFW tomorrow, please.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 21, 2011, 11:59:09 am
Fuck every single player in this stupid fucking World Series. I'm not rooting for the Goddamn Fucking Cardinals, and I'm not rooting for the Massive Bandwagon of Cocksmokes known as the Rangers.

Das, I need you to conjure up a tornadocane over DFW tomorrow, please.
Damn fuckin' straight. I'm boycotting this World Series. Chiefly, I want the Rangers to lose, and remain without a championship, but the thought of watching or listening to a game and hoping for a key hit from Pujols or Molina or any of those fuckers (ex-Twin Punto is about as close as I could come to rooting for a Card) is just too sickening to me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: S.P. Rodriguez on October 21, 2011, 12:09:12 pm
How about from this guy? (http://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/127327240231976961)


Okay, I'm good.  Thanks.

(note: tied up in meetings since about 9am.)
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BatGirl on October 21, 2011, 12:12:00 pm
Damn fuckin' straight. I'm boycotting this World Series. Chiefly, I want the Rangers to lose, and remain without a championship, but the thought of watching or listening to a game and hoping for a key hit from Pujols or Molina or any of those fuckers (ex-Twin Punto is about as close as I could come to rooting for a Card) is just too sickening to me.

+me
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 21, 2011, 12:15:05 pm
+me

and this guy.  It was fun to see Pujols preen last night only to have the ball caught on the warning track though. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 21, 2011, 01:08:11 pm
I've not been able to watch any non-Astros playoff games since 98, so my Void began a few weeks ago.  Fuck you, KB.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: moriartp on October 21, 2011, 01:09:23 pm
Tags just retweeted: "@JeffFletcher1: Berkman just called into XM to defend Pujols. Said media should have requested him in interview room."

And STL writer Derrick Goold (http://twitter.com/#!/dgoold/status/127420021814202369): um, we have RT “@JeffFletcher1: Berkman just called into XM to defend Pujols. Said media should have requested him in interview room.”
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jose Cruz III on October 21, 2011, 03:49:51 pm
It's fuckers like Allen Craig and Nick Punto that make the coards annoy me.
I hate Pujols as bad as Satan hates Jesus. But the one that ranked right up there with him was Eckstein followed closely by Jim Edmonds.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jose Cruz III on October 21, 2011, 03:51:45 pm
One of my Ranger fan coworkers - every day, wearing a gaudy Ranger shirt and Ranger hat - was happy that they'd got the split in St. Louis. We share astonishment at many of Ron Washington's moves, but then he allowed as how 'strategy doesn't mean a lot in AL ball.' That truth was mitigated by his glee that the Rangers finally have a team that can RUN. He's excited because this team is SO FAST and they win so many games with their speed.

AL fever. Catch it!
Our coaching staff are licking their chops.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 21, 2011, 04:46:15 pm
Footer weighs in (http://footer.mlblogs.com/2011/10/21/ballplayers-and-reporters-cant-we-just-all-get-along/) with an anecdote about veterans v. rookies handling the media.

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When the media had cleared, Bagwell went over to Everett and said, “I promise you that will never happen again.” And it didn’t. There was never a time, at any point, where the veteran players left it up to the kids to pontificate after an important game that was drawing a lot of attention, locally or nationally.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 21, 2011, 04:50:22 pm
outstanding, as she usually is.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 21, 2011, 06:45:03 pm
outstanding, as she usually is.

Yes, and she wrote an excellent article without calling out her buddy Lance Jakeman. I bet that wasn't easy for her.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 23, 2011, 08:49:42 am
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It was, quite simply, the greatest night by one player in the history of the 620 World Series games ever played.
It wasn't enough that Pujols joined Babe Ruth (1926 and 1928) and Reggie Jackson (1977) as the only players to hit three home runs in a World Series game. He also tied World Series records for runs batted in (six, by Bobby Richardson and Hideki Matsiui) and hits (five by Paul Molitor, with Pujols, incredibly, getting five hits off five different pitchers in a six-inning span). The hits -- two singles and three homers -- added up to 14 total bases, two more than the previous record shared by Ruth and Jackson. No one ever had a night this big.

"What it means," McGwire said, "is move over, Mr. October. There's a new Mr. October, and it's Albert Pujols."

Tom Verducci (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/10/23/pujols-signature-moment/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a3), shouldering the weight of the history of baseball and thrusting it at an uncaring public.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 23, 2011, 10:45:40 am
Tom Verducci (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/10/23/pujols-signature-moment/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a3), shouldering the weight of the history of baseball and thrusting it at an uncaring public.

I care even less about the Yankees.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 23, 2011, 12:49:57 pm
I didn't see the game, but wasn't it pretty much a blowout by the time he hit the last couple homers? Did it really "feel" special?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 23, 2011, 12:53:14 pm
I didn't see the game, but wasn't it pretty much a blowout by the time he hit the last couple homers? Did it really "feel" special?

Hell no. The first one was meaningful, the last two weren't clutch shots in the face of dire circumstances.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Fredia on October 23, 2011, 01:35:09 pm
i thought "it" felt special everytime
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 23, 2011, 03:38:22 pm
Hell no. The first one was meaningful, the last two weren't clutch shots in the face of dire circumstances.
Whereas Reggie's 3-HR game, his first one gave them the lead from being down by one, 2nd one increased their lead from 5-3 to 7-3, and the third made it 8-3, with the final score being 8-4. It was also a deciding Game 6, and last but not least, he didn't get 6 ABs like Pujols (thanks to his team scoring 16 runs), he got 3 ABs, total (after a 4-pitch walk his first time up).

As for the "Mr. October" thing, in 27 WS games Jackson hit .357/.457/.755 with 10 HR and 24 RBI. Pujols, in 12 games, has hit .310/.442/.667 with 4 HR and 8 RBI. Pujols has hit better in the LDS's and LCS's than Reggie did, but...

Sorry, Mr. Verducci and Mr. McGwire, I'll take Reggie Jackson here.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 23, 2011, 03:56:47 pm
I think that was Verducci's opening bid for writing the Albert Pujols Bio.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 23, 2011, 04:02:36 pm
As for the "Mr. October" thing, in 27 WS games Jackson hit .357/.457/.755 with 10 HR and 24 RBI. Pujols, in 12 games, has hit .310/.442/.667 with 4 HR and 8 RBI.

And 2 errors including one that cost a game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 23, 2011, 04:55:50 pm
Fuck the Yankees.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 23, 2011, 05:34:36 pm
Fuck the Yankees.
Yeah, I'm not normally one to leap to the defense of Yankee Greats (TM), especially a jackass like Reggie, but that shit about Pujols was just ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 23, 2011, 06:10:46 pm
Yeah, I'm not normally one to leap to the defense of Yankee Greats (TM), especially a jackass like Reggie, but that shit about Pujols was just ridiculous.
It's fresh on people's minds. He didn't have a bad night. Fuck the Jakes, fuck the Yankees, fuck the Rangers. Tonight I'll probably root for the Rangers, tomorrow I might root for the Jakes. Fuck 'em all. I really just don't want the Rangers to win more than I don't want the Cards to win. What a fucked up situation.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 23, 2011, 06:52:02 pm
Gotta give Fox credit. Just when you thought they could not possibly hire a commentator who could match (or exceed) Buck or McCarver in complete and total douchebaggery™, in step AJ Pierzynski.  I could not possibly have any less interest in watching World Series baseball than I do right now...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 23, 2011, 07:19:39 pm
Gotta give Fox credit. Just when you thought they could not possibly hire a commentator who could match (or exceed) Buck or McCarver in complete and total douchebaggery™, in step AJ Pierzynski.  I could not possibly have any less interest in watching World Series baseball than I do right now...

Mute is fun!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BUWebguy on October 24, 2011, 11:49:56 am
Joe Posnanski asked via Twitter last night, if you could have any two announcers calling the playoffs, who would it be? He later noted he got 500+ responses in about two minutes, most of them "Vin Scully and nobody."
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 24, 2011, 12:12:13 pm
Great Posnanski article on announcing (http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/10/24/baseball-on-fox/)
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 24, 2011, 12:38:04 pm
Joe Posnanski asked via Twitter last night, if you could have any two announcers calling the playoffs, who would it be? He later noted he got 500+ responses in about two minutes, most of them "Vin Scully and nobody."

I would be much happier with that.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 24, 2011, 01:49:50 pm
Tom Verducci (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/10/23/pujols-signature-moment/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a3), shouldering the weight of the history of baseball and thrusting it at an uncaring public.

And thrusting it right at the BBGs, who took out their wrath on the Cardinals.   The Cardinals will not win another game.  The series is going exactly how the Mavs NBA Finals did this year (winning game 2 on the road, 4 and 5 at home, 6 on the road).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 24, 2011, 02:06:07 pm
Joe Posnanski asked via Twitter last night, if you could have any two announcers calling the playoffs, who would it be? He later noted he got 500+ responses in about two minutes, most of them "Vin Scully and nobody."

I would give folding money to hear Bob Uecker and Jim Deshaies call a game together.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 07:37:36 pm
Pretty shaky defense by the Rangers here in the 2nd.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 07:48:47 pm
Pretty shaky defense by the Rangers here in the 2nd.

Good.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 07:55:07 pm
Dear God, please, no more. This Derek Holland shit is bringing my tacos back.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 08:14:23 pm
It's sickening to watch Lance Jakeman whine and shake his head like a petulant little bitch about called strikes these days. This seems to be new but maybe I have a selective memory.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 08:41:46 pm
Matt Holliday, Win Killer.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 08:46:04 pm
Matt Holliday, Win Killer.

He and Michael Young can go have a beer together and commiserate.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 08:57:56 pm
He and Michael Young can go have a beer together and commiserate.

Maybe they could run over Tim McCarver on the way.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:24:01 pm
Shit. I missed the beginning of the game, and this just before it started (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ4rWjV35Uk).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 09:25:45 pm
Maybe they could run over Tim McCarver on the way.

They'd probably miss him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 09:26:35 pm
Shit. I missed the beginning of the game, and this just before it started (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ4rWjV35Uk).

That was yesterday. Today's was much less interesting.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:27:50 pm
Today's was much less interesting.

Most things are.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 24, 2011, 09:28:18 pm
Ogando isn't going to win any beauty contests.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:28:44 pm
I hope LaRussa is the one who called that stupid steal attempt. Complete brain fart.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:29:48 pm
Ogando isn't going to win any beauty contests.

He gives Zeke Astacio a run. Ogando looks like he's been dead for a couple of days and was dug up.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 09:30:24 pm
I hope LaRussa is the one who called that stupid steal attempt. Complete brain fart.

Looked to me like Craig was trying to talk his way out of jail with LaRussa. I think somebody missed a sign.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:31:01 pm
Looked to me like Craig was trying to talk his way out of jail with LaRussa. I think somebody missed a sign.

That's the only explanation that begins to make sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:31:57 pm
Pujols runs like a washing machine on casters.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 09:32:50 pm
Pujols runs like a washing machine on casters.

But Timmy says he's a great baserunner! Stupid fucker wasn't even looking at his 3B coach when he rounded the bag.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 09:34:43 pm
It takes either big brass balls or incredible stupidity to walk the bases loaded with Ogando hunting for the strike zone the way he is.

But they got Freese, so they look like geniuses.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:35:30 pm
Jakes choking their way out of a Series that was there for the taking. Fuck. I really don't want this goddamn takeover.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 09:36:22 pm
It takes either big brass balls or incredible stupidity to walk the bases loaded with Ogando hunting for the strike zone the way he is.

But they got Freese, so they look like geniuses.

Washington is insane.

What the fuck hair color is that? Rust?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 24, 2011, 10:31:38 pm
So hoping for a Lidge moment here.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 24, 2011, 10:34:03 pm
So hoping for a Lidge moment here.

Fuck you, Jakes.  Fuck you.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 24, 2011, 10:34:47 pm
Why the stealing?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 24, 2011, 10:37:53 pm
Why the stealing?

More caught stealing than stealing I think.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 10:43:25 pm
More caught stealing than stealing I think.

Caught choking.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 24, 2011, 10:44:53 pm
Wait a minute: I thought Albert Pujols was the greatest player in the history of ever. How could Napoli be the best player on the field?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 24, 2011, 10:54:30 pm
Some douche on the post game show just said that the state of Texas had its first world series last year.

FML.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: LonerATO on October 24, 2011, 10:59:05 pm
I really hope the Rangers do not end up winning the World Series. I cannot go through life with the possibility of the Rangers winning a World Series before the Astros or the Astros never winning a World Series ever.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 24, 2011, 11:02:20 pm
I really hope the Rangers do not end up winning the World Series. I cannot go through life with the possibility of the Rangers winning a World Series before the Astros or the Astros never winning a World Series ever.

I guess you don't need to pay any attention to the expiration dates on stuff in your kitchen.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 24, 2011, 11:35:49 pm
I really hope the Rangers do not end up winning the World Series. I cannot go through life with the possibility of the Rangers winning a World Series before the Astros or the Astros never winning a World Series ever.

Sheesh, step back from the ledge.  This almost seems like you are a Rangers fan troll trying to hook some Astros fans at their nadir.

If that's off base, the sooner you realize the Rangers are winning the World Series, likely in 6 games, the better off you'll be.   Try to ignore the Delta Bravos that live there and do something else Wednesday night if you can't handle it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on October 25, 2011, 09:03:29 am
The Tanked Commander got out-commanded, and he can't believe it (http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/10/medium_larussa-game5-worldseries.gif)

I could watch this all day.  And I might just do exactly that.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 25, 2011, 09:05:51 am
I really hope the Rangers do not end up winning the World Series. I cannot go through life with the possibility of the Rangers winning a World Series before the Astros or the Astros never winning a World Series ever.

be sure to mail those insurance premiums in today.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 25, 2011, 09:13:50 am
Verducci: (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/10/25/game.5/)

Really, my head hurts trying to figure out what La Russa did to this game but mostly how he tried to explain it away. It was like being stuck in a gigantic corn maze. Blindfolded. At midnight. After getting spun around 38 times. Every explanation led to another turn that led to another dead end or false exit. The bottom line is he lost the game having a matchup he didn't want -- a left-hander pitching to red-hot Napoli -- and he lost his last opportunity by getting a runner thrown out who, while down two runs, didn't mean anything. I've never seen a game even close to this one and I hope never again to have to try to explain one like it.


Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 25, 2011, 09:14:19 am
The Tanked Commander got out-commanded, and he can't believe it (http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/10/medium_larussa-game5-worldseries.gif)

I could watch this all day.  And I might just do exactly that.

That's gotta be someone's new avatar.
Title: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: geezerdonk on October 25, 2011, 09:25:35 am
Maybe they could run over Tim McCarver on the way.

Maybe the best way to get rid of McCarver permanently is to let him ride home with LaRussa after the game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 25, 2011, 09:26:15 am
That's gotta be someone's new avatar.

See, and you guys thought nothing good could come of this Series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 25, 2011, 09:27:03 am
Verducci: (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/10/25/game.5/)

Really, my head hurts trying to figure out what La Russa did to this game but mostly how he tried to explain it away. It was like being stuck in a gigantic corn maze. Blindfolded. At midnight. After getting spun around 38 times. Every explanation led to another turn that led to another dead end or false exit. The bottom line is he lost the game having a matchup he didn't want -- a left-hander pitching to red-hot Napoli -- and he lost his last opportunity by getting a runner thrown out who, while down two runs, didn't mean anything. I've never seen a game even close to this one and I hope never again to have to try to explain one like it.


Verducci fundementally misunderstands the hit and run and baseball strategy in general.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 25, 2011, 09:32:18 am
Verducci fundementally misunderstands the hit and run and baseball strategy in general.

if you mean the 9th, that was not a hit and run. in the earlier inning, who put the play on if it was a hit and run?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 25, 2011, 09:34:15 am
if you mean the 9th, that was not a hit and run. in the earlier inning, who put the play on if it was a hit and run?

They were speculating that Pujols called it from the batter's box. On the one hand, that seems preposterous; on the other hand, it seems like just the sort of thing that an over-entitled Pujols might do, enabled by LaRussa's coddling.

ETA: It seemed pretty clear from the conversation between LaRussa and Craig that LaRussa didn't call for it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: homer on October 25, 2011, 09:41:45 am
They were speculating that Pujols called it from the batter's box. On the one hand, that seems preposterous; on the other hand, it seems like just the sort of thing that an over-entitled Pujols might do, enabled by LaRussa's coddling.

ETA: It seemed pretty clear from the conversation between LaRussa and Craig that LaRussa didn't call for it.

Craig, after drawing a one-out walk, was thrown out easily trying to steal second base as Pujols took a high pitch from reliever Alexi Ogando.
Craig said he saw the hit-and-run sign from third-base coach Jose Oquendo. Pujols told some reporters he was the one who had called for the hit-and-run.
Whoever the source, the result clearly was faulty.
"We're trying to be aggressive and try to make something happen," Oquendo said. "(Pujols) couldn't hit it.
Said Craig, "Ogando threw an unhittable pitch. It was a perfect play for them.
Manager Tony La Russa labeled the hit-and-run a "mix-up. And on our team, nobody gets thrown under the bus. So it was a mix-up."
Oquendo said Craig did nothing wrong although it didn't look good.
Craig said, "I got the sign and I ran. It's as simple as that. I don't know anything besides that. I did what I was told."



Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_ad549c4b-bc25-5403-8146-fbc94d2f4299.html#ixzz1bnx5mqfx
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 25, 2011, 09:42:55 am
if you mean the 9th, that was not a hit and run. in the earlier inning, who put the play on if it was a hit and run?

I was referring to the 9th, the play Verducci references.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: homer on October 25, 2011, 09:43:59 am
Starting a runner on a 3-2 count is not the same as a hit and run.  Pujols was not trying to poke one through the right side of the infield.

Count was 1-1 on Pujols in the 7th.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 25, 2011, 09:45:04 am
Count was 1-1 on Pujols in the 7th.

I was referring to the play in the 9th.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 25, 2011, 09:53:38 am
And on our team, nobody gets thrown under the bus. So it was a mix-up."

Unless of course you are the bullpen coach and/or phone.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 25, 2011, 10:01:03 am
They were speculating that Pujols called it from the batter's box. On the one hand, that seems preposterous; on the other hand, it seems like just the sort of thing that an over-entitled Pujols might do, enabled by LaRussa's coddling.

ETA: It seemed pretty clear from the conversation between LaRussa and Craig that LaRussa didn't call for it.

lots of players are allowed to do this. that is not coddling. Falk allowed certain players at UT to do it. i'd be surprised if Pujols would be one of them, though. why would you want your best hitter/RBI man giving himself up to move a runner?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 25, 2011, 10:02:03 am
I was referring to the 9th, the play Verducci references.

ok. if he thought that was a hit and run, he's an idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 25, 2011, 10:30:34 am
ok. if he thought that was a hit and run, he's an idiot.

This is Verducci's quote from LaRussa:

"Yeah, I trusted Albert could put the ball in play. In fact, the two swings that he fouled the ball off with the second baseman going over, the hole was there and all of a sudden it was first and third and nobody out and the last pitch, the guy has a very live arm and it sailed on him and he missed. I liked sending him and having a chance to open that inning up, and it didn't work."


And Verducci's explanation:  Think about what La Russa is saying here. Pujols represents the tying run, and yet La Russa is talking about him as if he is Nick Punto. He is thinking about Pujols -- who two days earlier joined Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson as the only men ever to hit three homers in a game -- hitting a groundball through the right side of the infield with Kinsler covering second base. A groundball to second base with Pujols finally getting a chance to swing the bat as the potential tying run! Do you know how many opposite field singles Pujols had this year in 651 plate appearances? Eleven. Less than two percent of his plate appearances. And that counts all opposite field singles of any kind, including line drives, not just seeing-eye ground balls through the vacated second base hole.


I think it's safe to say that Verducci thinks running on a full count to stay out of the DP is the same as a hit and run.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 25, 2011, 10:45:31 am
That's gotta be someone's new avatar.

Done.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 25, 2011, 11:01:00 am
This is Verducci's quote from LaRussa:

"Yeah, I trusted Albert could put the ball in play. In fact, the two swings that he fouled the ball off with the second baseman going over, the hole was there and all of a sudden it was first and third and nobody out and the last pitch, the guy has a very live arm and it sailed on him and he missed. I liked sending him and having a chance to open that inning up, and it didn't work."


And Verducci's explanation:  Think about what La Russa is saying here. Pujols represents the tying run, and yet La Russa is talking about him as if he is Nick Punto. He is thinking about Pujols -- who two days earlier joined Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson as the only men ever to hit three homers in a game -- hitting a groundball through the right side of the infield with Kinsler covering second base. A groundball to second base with Pujols finally getting a chance to swing the bat as the potential tying run! Do you know how many opposite field singles Pujols had this year in 651 plate appearances? Eleven. Less than two percent of his plate appearances. And that counts all opposite field singles of any kind, including line drives, not just seeing-eye ground balls through the vacated second base hole.


I think it's safe to say that Verducci thinks running on a full count to stay out of the DP is the same as a hit and run.


i'd like to know why LaGenius thiought Pujols was going to hit the ball on the ground to the right side on a 3-2 pitch.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 25, 2011, 11:06:21 am
Done.

I love it!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 25, 2011, 11:48:01 am
I am not familiar with batters calling their own hit and runs, anyone with some insight on how it is done?

I assume he has some sort of signal....Touch your hat with your left hand, take 3 practice swings, or something of that nature?  Does the runner relay back that he got the sign?  Is there a way for the coach to still call it off?  Just simply call time out?

For someone who micromanages so much, I am surprised LaRussa even allows this.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 25, 2011, 12:05:35 pm
i'd like to know why LaGenius thiought Pujols was going to hit the ball on the ground to the right side on a 3-2 pitch.

I don't think that's what LaRussa meant. I think Verducci is misinterpreting. You've got a 3-2 count on the best hitter in the league who rarely strikes out and rarely swings at bad pitches but does hit into the double play  regularly. I thought it was a sound call.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 25, 2011, 12:07:53 pm
I don't think that's what LaRussa meant. I think Verducci is misinterpreting. You've got a 3-2 count on the best hitter in the league who rarely strikes out and rarely swings at bad pitches but does hit into the double play  regularly. I thought it was a sound call.

Agreed... one of the few sound calls he made.

The bullpen clusterfuck and the entirely predictable finger pointing is the real issue.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 25, 2011, 12:10:07 pm
Agreed... one of the few sound calls he made.

The bullpen clusterfuck and the entirely predictable finger pointing is the real issue.

I read bits and pieces about the bullpen fiasco, but he clearly wanted Motte instead of Lynn in the 8th.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 25, 2011, 12:10:42 pm
Done.

That's even more hypnotizing than das' cat avatar.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 25, 2011, 12:48:39 pm
That's even more hypnotizing than das' cat avatar.

It needs to get merged with the endless parade of Oswalts going down the tunnel.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 25, 2011, 01:26:29 pm
Agreed... one of the few sound calls he made.

The bullpen clusterfuck and the entirely predictable finger pointing is the real issue.

Footer (http://footer.mlblogs.com/2011/10/25/hellllooooooooo-anyone-there-a-look-back-at-bullpen-phone-controversy-astros-style/) with some bullpen phone anecdotes from Scraps.

Including this delightful paragraph: That was one of Garner’s most endearing qualities. His thought processes stretched in dozens of different directions, yet he could compartmentalize better than anyone. When the Astros were 15-30 to start the 2005 season, during our pregame media sessions, Garner mostly just grumbled about the oil and gas industry. He’d jumble names when talking about his own players, which paved the way for new, fresh pitchers such as Queeler (Chad Qualls and Dan Wheeler) and Nueve (Fernando Nieve). He’d give his mind a break from baseball by watching the Lifetime Movie Network in the hours leading up to game time (“Watch,” he said to us as we filed into his office before a game in Cincinnati. “They’re going to take her baby away.”)
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 25, 2011, 01:30:47 pm

Including this delightful paragraph: That was one of Garner’s most endearing qualities. His thought processes stretched in dozens of different directions, yet he could compartmentalize better than anyone. When the Astros were 15-30 to start the 2005 season, during our pregame media sessions, Garner mostly just grumbled about the oil and gas industry. He’d jumble names when talking about his own players, which paved the way for new, fresh pitchers such as Queeler (Chad Qualls and Dan Wheeler) and Nueve (Fernando Nieve). He’d give his mind a break from baseball by watching the Lifetime Movie Network in the hours leading up to game time (“Watch,” he said to us as we filed into his office before a game in Cincinnati. “They’re going to take her baby away.”)

That's fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: juliogotay on October 25, 2011, 02:04:22 pm
I am not familiar with batters calling their own hit and runs, anyone with some insight on how it is done?

I assume he has some sort of signal....Touch your hat with your left hand, take 3 practice swings, or something of that nature?  Does the runner relay back that he got the sign?  Is there a way for the coach to still call it off?  Just simply call time out?

For someone who micromanages so much, I am surprised LaRussa even allows this.

McCarver mentioned last nite that when he played with Dick Groat in the 60's Groat used an open palm to signal the runner to hit-n-run. Groat, if you're not as old as me to remember him, had great bat control. He was a SS that won the MVP one year for the Cards. Also an AA cager at Duke.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 25, 2011, 02:18:09 pm
I don't think that's what LaRussa meant. I think Verducci is misinterpreting. You've got a 3-2 count on the best hitter in the league who rarely strikes out and rarely swings at bad pitches but does hit into the double play  regularly. I thought it was a sound call.

I think starting the runner was the right call too,  but not because the second baseman was covering. Those were TL's words, not TV's.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 25, 2011, 02:20:02 pm
McCarver mentioned last nite that when he played with Dick Groat in the 60's Groat used an open palm to signal the runner to hit-n-run. Groat, if you're not as old as me to remember him, had great bat control. He was a SS that won the MVP one year for the Cards. Also an AA cager at Duke.

Groat was a hell of a shortstop. Won the 1960 MVP with the Pirates and finished second to Koufax while with the Cards in 1963.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 25, 2011, 03:03:53 pm
I read bits and pieces about the bullpen fiasco, but he clearly wanted Motte instead of Lynn in the 8th.

I think he clearly wanted Motte instead of Rzepczynski for the Napoli at bat.  But even with Motte, the odds of the Rangers winning that game at that point were around 80% according to the GameTracker.  It's not like that move was the reason they lost.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 25, 2011, 09:14:26 pm
McCarver mentioned last nite that when he played with Dick Groat in the 60's Groat used an open palm to signal the runner to hit-n-run. Groat, if you're not as old as me to remember him, had great bat control. He was a SS that won the MVP one year for the Cards. Also an AA cager at Duke.
Dick Groat was one of my heros when he played for the Bucs ... saw him along with Maz practicing the DP moves in ST one year and I still have the images.  I mourned when he was traded ... the beginning of my anti-Cardinal bias.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 25, 2011, 10:26:09 pm
Dick Groat was one of my heros when he played for the Bucs ... saw him along with Maz practicing the DP moves in ST one year and I still have the images.  I mourned when he was traded ... the beginning of my anti-Cardinal bias.

Traded in the winter of 1962 with Diomedes Olivo to the Cardinals for Don Cardwell and the immortal Julio Gotay.

Just knew there had to be an Astro link in there somewhere.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 26, 2011, 01:21:35 pm
Tank Commander working his magic: (http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7151757/2011-world-series-st-louis-cardinals-mlb-meet-possible-game-6-postponement)

Quote
With ugly weather looming over Busch Stadium, baseball officials were growing increasingly pessimistic Wednesday that Game 6 of the World Series would be played as scheduled Wednesday night.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MRaup on October 26, 2011, 02:13:58 pm
Tank Commander working his magic: (http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7151757/2011-world-series-st-louis-cardinals-mlb-meet-possible-game-6-postponement)


[LaGenius] This weather pattern looks like it will persist until... Carpenter is ready to pitch again... Whatever day that is. [/LaGenius]
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 26, 2011, 02:24:02 pm
MLB has officially cancelled tonight's game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2011, 03:42:08 pm
MLB has officially cancelled tonight's game.

You need to change your LaRussa avatar (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhxvr5I8Qu1qeqv7k.gif).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 26, 2011, 04:12:58 pm
Also...anyone remember that they once played a WS game in a blizzard?  Well into extra innings?

FUCK...BUD...SELIG!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 26, 2011, 07:49:14 pm
Looking back at World Series since 1973, nine times have home teams won games 4 and 5 to go up 3 games to 2 in the series.   The winner of Game 6 has won all 9 series (three series ended 4-2 and six series ended 3-4).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 26, 2011, 08:04:59 pm
I'm hoping that the Cards will spend so much time tomorrow talking among themselves about whether to start Carpenter on 3 days' rest that they'll forget that they have to win Game 6 first.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: drew corleone on October 26, 2011, 10:55:45 pm
Am I mis-remembering, or did the Astros have to play game one in a cold, steady drizzle? You play the game as scheduled until there is reason tom call it. Total horseshit. I hope it goes 7, and LaGenius trots out Carpenter, who promptly gets shelled.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 27, 2011, 12:52:26 am
Am I mis-remembering, or did the Astros have to play game one in a cold, steady drizzle? You play the game as scheduled until there is reason tom call it. Total horseshit. I hope it goes 7, and LaGenius trots out Carpenter, who promptly gets shelled.

That was before the clusterfuck that was 2008 Game 5.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 27, 2011, 12:55:28 am
I'm hoping that the Cards will spend so much time tomorrow talking among themselves about whether to start Carpenter on 3 days' rest that they'll forget that they have to win Game 6 first.

They won't "forget" to win Game 6.  They just won't win Game 6.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Limey on October 27, 2011, 06:37:16 am
MLB and STL have achieved the impossible: I now want the Rangers to win the Works Series. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 27, 2011, 09:17:14 am
MLB and STL have achieved the impossible: I now want the Rangers to win the Works Series.  

What, St. Louis has never prematurely postponed a home game at their benefit.  Never (http://www.spikesnstars.com/2008/03/06/funk-wagner-the-talkzone-glossary/).  

Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 27, 2011, 10:09:13 am
Am I mis-remembering, or did the Astros have to play game one in a cold, steady drizzle? You play the game as scheduled until there is reason tom call it. Total horseshit. I hope it goes 7, and LaGenius trots out Carpenter, who promptly gets shelled.

Game 1, 2005 WS. ChiSox finish their BP and warmups fine.  Clemens, recently hobbled with hammy issues, start walking towards the mound to warmup and it starts sleeting. Warmup shortened, as was BP.  Clemens is gone 2 innings(ish) later - injury.  Pisses me off still...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 27, 2011, 10:20:44 am
Game 1, 2005 WS. ChiSox finish their BP and warmups fine.  Clemens, recently hobbled with hammy issues, start walking towards the mound to warmup and it starts sleeting. Warmup shortened, as was BP.  Clemens is gone 2 innings(ish) later - injury.  Pisses me off still...

not coincidentally Clemens was hit hard before his injury. go figure.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: drew corleone on October 27, 2011, 10:28:30 am
Yeah, I knew there was some bullshit in that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Andyzipp on October 27, 2011, 10:31:08 am
Game 1, 2005 WS. ChiSox finish their BP and warmups fine.  Clemens, recently hobbled with hammy issues, start walking towards the mound to warmup and it starts sleeting. Warmup shortened, as was BP.  Clemens is gone 2 innings(ish) later - injury.  Pisses me off still...

Injury or "loser limp"?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 27, 2011, 10:39:08 am
Injury or "loser limp"?

Dunno, but I remember telling my buddy during warmups that I didn't think Clemens' hammy (or groin, whatever it was) was going to hold up in that shit...  Still didn't frustrate me as much as watching the LOBster king taking ABs during that game...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 27, 2011, 10:49:12 am
not coincidentally Clemens was hit hard before his injury. go figure.

Entirely coincidental that Rajah would always come up with an injury when getting shelled.  ENTIRELY coincidental.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 27, 2011, 11:58:47 am
Entirely coincidental that Rajah would always come up with an injury when getting shelled.  ENTIRELY coincidental.

FWIW, he never looked 'right' during warmups. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: homer on October 27, 2011, 01:27:29 pm
FWIW, he never looked 'right' during warmups. 

That's understandable. He had just applied ben-gay to his balls.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 27, 2011, 03:28:25 pm
How idiotic are the Baseball Tonight foursome?

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?categoryId=2459789&id=7155212

In that video, they talk about how Tony LaRussa is such a genius to move Lance Berkman to the 4 spot simply, according to these idiots, because he has a "hot bat".

They are all clueless.  They don't realize that Berkman bats 5th against lefties and bats 4th against righties.  That's it.  No complex adjustments are being made here.  In the unlikely event of a Game 7, Berkman will bat 5th and these blowhards won't know what to think.   They'll probably think of some way to collectively kiss LaGenius' ass.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 27, 2011, 03:38:00 pm
How idiotic are the Baseball Tonight foursome?


They haven't canceled Baseball Tonight yet?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 27, 2011, 06:28:58 pm
They haven't canceled Baseball Tonight yet?
There must be some people out there who don't have the MLB Network.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 08:12:50 pm
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

I love to watch two Jakes fuck up for everyone to see.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 08:17:45 pm
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

I love to watch two Jakes fuck up for everyone to see.

And then another one, although it may have resulted in Napoli being done.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 08:27:20 pm
Michael Young is having a series to forget.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Guinness on October 27, 2011, 08:47:48 pm
Somewhere, Bill Buckner is smiling...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 09:09:20 pm
They haven't canceled Baseball Tonight yet?

No rain in the forecast.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 09:12:42 pm
Fuck you, Albert. Go sit down.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 09:19:47 pm
Can't anybody here play this game?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 27, 2011, 09:20:41 pm
Fuck you, Albert. Go sit down.

Absolutely. It was a ball, but I always love to see Albert rung up. Dickhead.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 09:31:26 pm
This is the craziest damn game I've seen in a while.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 27, 2011, 09:32:56 pm
What a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: T. J. on October 27, 2011, 09:35:01 pm
This looks like one of my denial league games. What a pick off at third though. I'm still not sure he was out, but damn what a throw.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 27, 2011, 09:35:22 pm
Runners advanced on a wp that hit ump.  Shouldnt it have been a dead ball, holding the runners at their base?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 09:41:44 pm
Runners advanced on a wp that hit ump.  Shouldnt it have been a dead ball, holding the runners at their base?

No, that's still in play. But it does bring to mind the play a few years ago where a pitch tipped off the catcher's glove and disappeared into the umpire's shirt pocket. I wonder at what point that becomes a dead ball.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 09:50:28 pm
This is the craziest damn game I've seen in a while.

That isn't all bad.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 09:54:11 pm
Well, mother fucker.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 09:54:32 pm
No, that's still in play. But it does bring to mind the play a few years ago where a pitch tipped off the catcher's glove and disappeared into the umpire's shirt pocket. I wonder at what point that becomes a dead ball.

It's a dead ball when it lodges in the clothing.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 09:55:38 pm
Well, mother fucker.

Welcome.  Pull up a chair.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 09:56:52 pm
What on earth was Jay thinking/doing there? He had no chance at the plate, and then he just threw it into shitsville anyway. Meanwhile, Kinsler takes second.

Looks like LaRussa wasn't thrilled with the choice, either.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 09:59:49 pm
This is a real shitrain of suck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 10:02:28 pm
This is a real shitrain of suck.

I don't think they'll be using it for the next Emansky video.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 10:04:44 pm
This is a real shitrain of suck.

So great to see the Jakes falling apart.  Hate that it is the Rangers who will benefit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:07:17 pm
There is so much to hate here. McCarver, Buck, the end of the season, the NL losing, the Astros having the last nails driven into the coffin lid, the months of bandwagonning assholes who will come out of the woodwork, the fucking blue and red shirts and hats that are going to be everywhere. Fuck.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck.

I hate fucking Darrell Hammond too.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 27, 2011, 10:13:24 pm
I refuse to watch/listen to this happen, I'm sorry.  Good night.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:14:27 pm
I refuse to watch/listen to this happen, I'm sorry.  Good night.

It's not a Void, it's a black hole.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 10:19:03 pm
Well, whaddayaknow...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 10:26:43 pm
There is so much to hate here. McCarver, Buck, the end of the season, the NL losing, the Astros having the last nails driven into the coffin lid, the months of bandwagonning assholes who will come out of the woodwork, the fucking blue and red shirts and hats that are going to be everywhere. Fuck.

Did you see the ad for the Fox early morning news crew? They put the faces of the crew on a bunch of dancing Ranger bodies with Rangers caps. I don't recall them ever doing that for the 'Stros.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 27, 2011, 10:28:15 pm
Elvis andrus, WTF???
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2011, 10:28:35 pm
Did you see the ad for the Fox early morning news crew? They put the faces of the crew on a bunch of dancing Ranger bodies with Rangers caps. I don't recall them ever doing that for the 'Stros.

Because Fox is all Dallas, all the time.  Fuck those guys.  I'm glad the Astros are dumping those assholes.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:29:36 pm
Did you see the ad for the Fox early morning news crew? They put the faces of the crew on a bunch of dancing Ranger bodies with Rangers caps. I don't recall them ever doing that for the 'Stros.

It's a takeover. It's going to be horrible.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 10:29:54 pm
Elvis andrus, WTF???

That was a most curious decision.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 10:30:33 pm
Well, fuck.  I just wanted to see the Rangers fans get their little hearts broken on live TV.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 27, 2011, 10:36:36 pm
Well, fuck.  I just wanted to see the Rangers fans get their little hearts broken on live TV.

Fair-weathered fans don't care this much
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:39:26 pm
Maybe a comet will hit the stadium. Surely Musial is home by now.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 10:42:26 pm
Go Cardinals.

Now excuse me while I plunge my head in my hotel's toilet.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:43:56 pm
Go Cardinals.

Now excuse me while I plunge my head in my hotel's toilet.

You don't have to root for the Cardinals to win. You can just root for the Rangers to lose.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 10:47:40 pm
Neftali's really got it tonight.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:50:50 pm
Shit. Fooled. That was the last best chance they'll have.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:51:34 pm
God damn I'm going to hate going to work tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 27, 2011, 10:52:36 pm
Shit. Fooled. That was the last best chance they'll have.

Cement mixer
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 10:53:25 pm
Oh holy shit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:53:36 pm
Fuck you, Nolan.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Nate in IA on October 27, 2011, 10:53:52 pm
Holy cow!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 27, 2011, 10:54:47 pm
Holeee shit.  Cruz, cant be scared of the wall when it's champ clinching
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:56:12 pm
It's an extra-inning battle of wits. Tank Commander vs. Crazy Windmill.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 10:57:53 pm
Whoa Nellie!!  That looked friggin awesome!! 



I am just rooting for everyone to look bad.


Apologies to Keith.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 27, 2011, 10:59:39 pm
Well I didn't say anything about not watching it on gamecast on my iphone. FUCK YES!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 10:59:59 pm
Either way, we're not going to be seeing that stupid interlocking hand jive much longer.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:00:55 pm
I just noticed why I am enjoying watching this game so much.  I have the volume down enough that I can't hear the damn announcers.

Oh, hell.   That was a shot.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:01:06 pm
As a closer, Motte is a real disappointment.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:03:16 pm
Well I didn't say anything about not watching it on gamecast on my iphone. FUCK YES!!!

So YOU conjured up that HR...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 27, 2011, 11:04:54 pm
Can the stRangers hold the lead this time?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2011, 11:05:12 pm
Shitfuck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 27, 2011, 11:05:31 pm
Well, at least Hamilton got the big blow after all.  I've felt bad for him since that fan got killed, even if he is a fucking Ranger.

And Jane don't you even fucking go there.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2011, 11:05:37 pm
Can the stRangers hold the lead this time?

Only if God hates us.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:06:14 pm
Only if God hates us.

Oh, but He does.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2011, 11:08:21 pm
Isn't Darren Oliver like 100 years old?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:09:33 pm
Isn't Darren Oliver like 100 years old?

He is the Undead.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:10:27 pm
Isn't Darren Oliver like 100 years old?

Everyone knows you can't kill a zombie.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:11:38 pm
Everyone knows you can't kill a zombie.

Head shot. Or helicopter blade to the top of the head.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:12:38 pm
Head shot. Or helicopter blade to the top of the head.

Comebacker to the noggin?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:13:25 pm
Comebacker to the noggin?

I like your style.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:13:27 pm
Crap.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: hostros7 on October 27, 2011, 11:20:22 pm
Ferk, berkman coming up
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:21:04 pm
Ferk, berkman jakeman coming up

FIFY
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 27, 2011, 11:22:16 pm
Mike Maddux looks a bit like Frank Zappa.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 11:22:30 pm
Evil Berkman
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:23:20 pm
Did these idiots really just wonder why the outfield is deep? Gee, I wonder if maybe it's because you LOSE on a double.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 11:23:42 pm
Wow. Just wow.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:23:49 pm
Lance Jakeman, hero.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:23:59 pm
Mike Maddux looks a bit like Frank Zappa.

I think the same thing every time I see him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2011, 11:24:12 pm
Apparently God still loves me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:24:20 pm
I hope this game goes 56 innings, and they just collapse on the field from exhaustion.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:24:47 pm
Mike Maddux looks a bit like Frank Zappa.

The Zomby Woof.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:24:56 pm
I hope this game goes 56 innings, and they just collapse on the field from exhaustion.

I hope they run out of pitchers and Bud calls it a tie.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 27, 2011, 11:26:52 pm
That was a win-win AB for Lance..

He makes an out, he breaks Jakes' fans hearts.

He comes through, he breaks Nolaners' hearts.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:27:05 pm
I believe JLo drives that little piece of shit Fiat just like I believe that the McRib is edible.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:29:03 pm
Note to Westbrook: Cruz can hit the low fastball.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:29:31 pm
Lance looks like a real adventure in RF.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 27, 2011, 11:29:54 pm
holy shit...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:30:11 pm
Lance looks like a real adventure in RF.

He looked like a stumbling drunk on that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:30:28 pm
I believe JLo drives that little piece of shit Fiat just like I believe that the McRib is edible.

I have never had a McRib.  However, I have friends that swear by them.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:30:51 pm
He looked like a stumbling drunk on that one.

He looked the same on an earlier flyball.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:31:24 pm
I have never had a McRib.  However, I have friends that swear by them.

Well, count yourself McLucky. Or McSmart.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:31:35 pm
I have never had a McRib.  However, I have friends that swear by them.

If they're eating at McDonald's, their opinions are already pretty suspect.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:33:48 pm
Ron Washington is inscrutable.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: drew corleone on October 27, 2011, 11:35:47 pm
This game is excruciating
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:38:13 pm
Ron Washington is inscrutable.

I think he just fucked himself by hitting for the pitcher.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Nate in IA on October 27, 2011, 11:40:08 pm
Game 7
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:40:15 pm
Well, lookie there...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:40:20 pm
Wow. That was an amazing game.

I can go to work tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 27, 2011, 11:40:51 pm
At least it wasn't Pujols.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:41:07 pm
Nolan looks like he hasn't had a shit in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:41:11 pm
Fuck. You. Nolan.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 27, 2011, 11:41:41 pm
Nolan looks like he hasn't had a shit in 3 weeks.

Hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Rebel Jew on October 27, 2011, 11:42:31 pm
Ron Washington is inscrutable.

I haven't watched much Rangers this year or playoffs but is Nelson Cruz known as a poor defensive outfielder? Should Washington have brought in a defensive replacement in the 9th?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Nate in IA on October 27, 2011, 11:43:30 pm
They seemed to imply that he was gimpy
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 27, 2011, 11:44:03 pm
I haven't watched much Rangers this year or playoffs but is Nelson Cruz known as a poor defensive outfielder? Should Washington have brought in a defensive replacement in the 9th?

To better defend against the screaming line drive off the wall?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:44:56 pm
I haven't watched much Rangers this year or playoffs but is Nelson Cruz known as a poor defensive outfielder? Should Washington have brought in a defensive replacement in the 9th?

I don't think he had a better option. Cruz isn't bad.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Rebel Jew on October 27, 2011, 11:49:53 pm
I don't think he had a better option. Cruz isn't bad.

yeah i don't know much about the rangers players. either way, i'm sure we'll see lots of stories about how washington got out-lageniused again.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JaneDoe on October 27, 2011, 11:51:48 pm
I've played in several post season games, but this one takes the cake---Lance Jakeman

You can take your cake and shove it....
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:52:01 pm
yeah i don't know much about the rangers players. either way, i'm sure we'll see lots of stories about how washington got out-lageniused again.

If someone is trying to sell you on the Genius of Ron Washington, they've got a damned tough sell.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 27, 2011, 11:52:37 pm
I've played in several post season games, but this one takes the cake---Lance Jakeman

You can take your cake and shove it....

Well, he waited until this one to actually make a difference in the game...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: roadrunner on October 28, 2011, 12:07:38 am
I hate both teams, but shit this game was phenomenal.  Even with the shitty defense.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: drew corleone on October 28, 2011, 09:09:26 am
It was exciting, but it was pretty sloppy.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 28, 2011, 11:18:19 am
I've played in several post season games, but this one takes the cake---Lance Jakeman

You can take your cake and shove it....

Meh, I can't really be too pissy about him being excited about the game last night.  Elimination game, fought back a couple of times, down to their last strike, and Berkman pretty much carried the Jakes on top of it all. I can see where he'd feel that way immediately following that win...
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: MusicMan on October 28, 2011, 11:25:01 am
Meh, I can't really be too pissy about him being excited about the game last night.  Elimination game, fought back a couple of times, down to their last strike, and Berkman pretty much carried the Jakes on top of it all. I can see where he'd feel that way immediately following that win...

That beard makes him look like gay Curious George's grandpa.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 28, 2011, 11:25:19 am
I've played in several post season games, but this one takes the cake---Lance Jakeman

You can take your cake and shove it....

why should he not be elated? i don't see anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 28, 2011, 12:16:28 pm
Did you see the ad for the Fox early morning news crew? They put the faces of the crew on a bunch of dancing Ranger bodies with Rangers caps. I don't recall them ever doing that for the 'Stros.

Yep.  No one did anything for the Stros, except send one reporter to MMPUS one time.  Fuck Austin's Houston-hating Dallas leanings.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 28, 2011, 05:07:17 pm
Grantland (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/8186/lance-berkman-finally-right-about-lance-berkman) with another head-scratcher:

For some time now, Lance Berkman has been in the category of athletes who genuinely believe they were as good as one of their more buzzed-about teammates...Lance is a two-time member of this club, first as an Astro with Jeff Bagwell and currently as a Cardinal with Albert Pujols. Comparing Bagwell and Pujols' numbers with Berkman, it seems insane for him to think he's as good, if not better. What's interesting, though, is that guys in this fraternity don't care about stats and accolades. They just know, deep down inside, they are better than anyone else in their respective sport, and there's nothing you can say to them to convince them feel otherwise.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Super Fan #99 on October 28, 2011, 05:22:27 pm
I've played in several post season games, but this one takes the cake---Lance Jakeman

You can take your cake and shove it....

This whole Lance "Jakeman" thing is beyond stupid and juvenile.  And let me repeat, stupid.  Why wouldn't Lance, caught in the moment, be excited?  He's about to play in Game 7 of the World Series.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 28, 2011, 06:57:50 pm
This whole Lance "Jakeman" thing is beyond stupid and juvenile.  And let me repeat, stupid.  Why wouldn't Lance, caught in the moment, be excited?  He's about to play in Game 7 of the World Series.

Oh my God. Guys, she's right. We're beyond stupid and juvenile.

How will I live with the pain? What can I do to repair the wrongs I've wreaked?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 28, 2011, 07:17:20 pm
Wow. Whoever the color guy is for Cards radio (I think they called him "Mike"), he is awful. Just horrible at describing the action and almost sounds drunk. I had to abandon that for the bland yet listenable ESPN radio.

Was Carpenter really as sucky as it sounded in the 1st, or was Berkman's lack of range in RF to blame?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 28, 2011, 07:19:51 pm
Wow. Whoever the color guy is for Cards radio (I think they called him "Mike"), he is awful. Just horrible at describing the action and almost sounds drunk. I had to abandon that for the bland yet listenable ESPN radio.

Was Carpenter really as sucky as it sounded in the 1st, or was Berkman's lack of range in RF to blame?

The rangers know how to hit it hard down the right field line. Not particularly Berkman's fault.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 28, 2011, 07:23:15 pm
Wow. Whoever the color guy is for Cards radio (I think they called him "Mike"), he is awful. Just horrible at describing the action and almost sounds drunk. I had to abandon that for the bland yet listenable ESPN radio.

Was Carpenter really as sucky as it sounded in the 1st, or was Berkman's lack of range in RF to blame?

Not sure how Berkman is supposed to defend a line drive past a diving first baseman.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 28, 2011, 07:31:47 pm
Bill Hall?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 07:32:40 pm
Carpenter somehow managed to miss Beltre's bat and then got a fly out. He was very vulnerable. And then Harrison returned the favor.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 07:33:01 pm
Bill Hall?

I knew he was the only guy who was dangerous.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: homer on October 28, 2011, 07:36:56 pm
Bill Hall?
I knew he was the only guy who was dangerous.

I am looking for a link to the commercial now.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 28, 2011, 07:39:44 pm
Not sure how Berkman is supposed to defend a line drive past a diving first baseman.
Like I said, the Cards radio guy's description was shitty. He made it sound like Andrus scoring on the first double was because Berkman was way over in RCF and took a while to get it, and that the 2nd double was a pop-up.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 28, 2011, 07:42:26 pm
Wow. Whoever the color guy is for Cards radio (I think they called him "Mike"), he is awful. Just horrible at describing the action and almost sounds drunk.

Mike Shannon might not be drunk all the time, he just sounds like it.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 28, 2011, 07:43:15 pm
I can't believe this isn't on the radio in Austin.  I'm listening to an AM station skipping from St Louis.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 28, 2011, 07:44:24 pm
Mike Shannon might not be drunk all the time, he just sounds like it.

I thought Shannon had some nasty nerve disease.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 28, 2011, 07:53:40 pm
I thought Shannon had some nasty nerve disease.

No, I think he's drunk all the time.

Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 08:17:34 pm
Craig can hit. I wonder where the Cards will try to find a spot for him next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 28, 2011, 08:35:19 pm
Craig can hit. I wonder where the Cards will try to find a spot for him next year.
In RF if Pujols leaves.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 28, 2011, 08:40:05 pm
I told the cards fans at game 3 they'd better enjoy Berkman, since he was their 1B next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 08:41:58 pm
I told the cards fans at game 3 they'd better enjoy Berkman, since he was their 1B next year.

I don't know. I think that Pujols is so enthralled with the adulation he receives in St Louis that he'll stay. And management is so scared of the backlash they'll see if he goes elsewhere that they'll figure out a way to pay him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 28, 2011, 08:49:08 pm
I don't know. I think that Pujols is so enthralled with the adulation he receives in St Louis that he'll stay. And management is so scared of the backlash they'll see if he goes elsewhere that they'll figure out a way to pay him.
I almost wonder if he'll just take arbitration and try the market next year. Seems like none of the typical big spenders need a big-money 1B right now, so its hard to see where both he and Fielder get the mega-bucks they want (and the years they want).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 28, 2011, 08:52:44 pm
I don't know either, but I was happy to fuck with them.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 08:57:05 pm
That was strike 3. I don't know how Molina sat on that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 28, 2011, 08:59:54 pm
Good thing I'm not a Ranger fan.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 09:00:50 pm
I'll never understand why Washington walks the bases loaded. His pitchers simply aren't reliable enough for that shit.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 28, 2011, 09:02:17 pm
I'll never understand why Washington walks the bases loaded. His pitchers simply aren't reliable enough for that shit.

Two runs on no hits. Disgusting.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 28, 2011, 09:09:45 pm
Craig can hit. I wonder where the Cards will try to find a spot for him next year.

He certainly won't hit 8th.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Gizzmonic on October 28, 2011, 09:10:00 pm
Two runs on no hits. Disgusting.

You know who'd be a good manager for the Rangers?  Ol' Scrap Iron!
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 28, 2011, 09:10:27 pm
I can't help it. Fuck the Cards. I know rooting for the Rangers means they will lose, but I will not enjoy the alternative.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 09:11:53 pm
I can't help it. Fuck the Cards. I know rooting for the Rangers means they will lose, but I will not enjoy the alternative.

Too late. They're doomed. I realized a couple of innings ago that I was pulling for the Rangers.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: subnuclear on October 28, 2011, 09:12:48 pm
The squirrel hat is classy.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 28, 2011, 09:23:35 pm
I'll never understand why Washington walks the bases loaded. His pitchers simply aren't reliable enough for that shit.

Ron Washington is insane.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: austro on October 28, 2011, 09:26:49 pm
Ron Washington is insane.

He's certainly in-something.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Rebel Jew on October 28, 2011, 09:38:07 pm
This whole Lance "Jakeman" thing is beyond stupid and juvenile.  And let me repeat, stupid.  Why wouldn't Lance, caught in the moment, be excited?  He's about to play in Game 7 of the World Series.

I agree. And in case anybody forgot, the Astros traded him.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 28, 2011, 09:44:07 pm
I can't believe this isn't on the radio in Austin.  I'm listening to an AM station skipping from St Louis.

It's not on 1530?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 28, 2011, 10:22:58 pm
FUCK YOU RANGERS!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: strosrays on October 28, 2011, 10:24:57 pm
Aside from 2001, maybe the best World Series I have ever watched.  Just outstanding.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 28, 2011, 10:25:24 pm
THE National League: Where real men play a real sport.  You should have remembered that, Nolan.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: EasTexAstro on October 28, 2011, 10:25:35 pm
Yuck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Waldo on October 28, 2011, 10:30:46 pm
It's hard for me to conjure up any strong feelings one way or the other.  There is a con for every pro, and the sting of a 100-loss season doesn't help.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 28, 2011, 10:32:40 pm
"That could very well have been Albert Pujols last reacharound as a member of the St. Louis Cardinals..." -Joe Buck  (or at least that is what I think he said, something like that anyway...).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: idlelife on October 28, 2011, 10:33:36 pm
While I hate the cards... I'm glad I don't have to see another Texas team hoist a banner.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 28, 2011, 10:34:51 pm
I hate the Cards too, but Fuck the Rangers and Fuck Lynn Nolan Ryan.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: idlelife on October 28, 2011, 10:37:44 pm
That's what I was saying (though 12 year old me loved Nolan, 34 year-old me hates him). 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: remy on October 28, 2011, 10:43:51 pm
It's hard for me to conjure up any strong feelings one way or the other.

The Astros are practically being FORCED to move to the AL fucking West.  I can't go to a Round Rock Express game anymore because they're the fucking Rangers.  All I want to see is fucking Rangers' fans tears and heartbreak, for a long, LONG time.  I'm happy the NL won the series.  I don't fucking care at this point if it was the Jakes.  Pooholes already has a goddamn ring anyway, so fuck it.  My feelings of hatred for the Dallas Rangers of Nolan County far outweigh anything I have left for Saint Louis. And after much consideration, I am happy for Lance.  He didn't abandon the Astros, he was traded.  And I'm happy for Dotel, too.  But mostly, mostly... I am just so happy that the entire fucking metroplex is crying in their light beers tonight.  And for them to FAIL so DRAMATICALLY... twice!  Waldo, I do not have any trouble conjuring up strong feelings about this one.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 28, 2011, 10:47:03 pm
And after much consideration, I am happy for Lance.  He didn't abandon the Astros, he was traded.  And I'm happy for Dotel, too.

I think I'm heading that direction as well... (just wish he'd have kept his friggin' mouth shut this season...).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 28, 2011, 11:00:58 pm
The Astros are practically being FORCED to move to the AL fucking West.  I can't go to a Round Rock Express game anymore because they're the fucking Rangers.  All I want to see is fucking Rangers' fans tears and heartbreak, for a long, LONG time.  I'm happy the NL won the series.  I don't fucking care at this point if it was the Jakes.  Pooholes already has a goddamn ring anyway, so fuck it.  My feelings of hatred for the Dallas Rangers of Nolan County far outweigh anything I have left for Saint Louis. And after much consideration, I am happy for Lance.  He didn't abandon the Astros, he was traded.  And I'm happy for Dotel, too.  But mostly, mostly... I am just so happy that the entire fucking metroplex is crying in their light beers tonight.  And for them to FAIL so DRAMATICALLY... twice!  Waldo, I do not have any trouble conjuring up strong feelings about this one.
Well fuckin said.

I look forward to JCIII or whoever that was replacing their old avatar of the crying Cards fan with a suitable DRONC fan crying photo... some shot of Nolan looking really pitiful would work too.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Waldo on October 28, 2011, 11:02:57 pm
The Astros are practically being FORCED to move to the AL fucking West.  I can't go to a Round Rock Express game anymore because they're the fucking Rangers.  All I want to see is fucking Rangers' fans tears and heartbreak, for a long, LONG time.  I'm happy the NL won the series.  I don't fucking care at this point if it was the Jakes.  Pooholes already has a goddamn ring anyway, so fuck it.  My feelings of hatred for the Dallas Rangers of Nolan County far outweigh anything I have left for Saint Louis. And after much consideration, I am happy for Lance.  He didn't abandon the Astros, he was traded.  And I'm happy for Dotel, too.  But mostly, mostly... I am just so happy that the entire fucking metroplex is crying in their light beers tonight.  And for them to FAIL so DRAMATICALLY... twice!  Waldo, I do not have any trouble conjuring up strong feelings about this one.

Fair enough.  I'm not saying that I don't hate the Rangers, and I will certainly enjoy the temporary reprieve from gloating by all of the suddenly-Ranger-fans that I know.  You'll just have to forgive me if my enjoyment of the Rangers' back-to-back World Series dickstepping is tempered by the knowledge that the Astros racked up nearly 200 losses during the Rangers' two pennant runs.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 28, 2011, 11:07:03 pm
The positive in this is that the takeover has been slightly blunted. We're spared the massive tidal wave that a championship would've brought. There is still a takeover in progress, but it won't be the complete carpetbombing that it would've been if they'd won the Series. There will be pockets of life left over.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 29, 2011, 12:02:28 am
I agree. And in case anybody forgot, the Astros traded him.
+1

I am only happy for Berkman. Lance also spends a lot of time with microphones in his face and sans teleprompter or handlers the guy comes across as an old-fashioned Texas-style mensch. I think he reflects well on himself, his family, and Texas. Yeah, he was complacent on the Astros for a long while. But he got serious, picked himself up, and played at a level he hadn't done for years. And after a great comeback season he had a postseason performance that was better than anything Bagwell or Biggio ever did--including doing his part to keep his team alive in game six. How can you not respect this guy? Hate him if you want but I just don't get it.

 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 29, 2011, 12:14:18 am
Aside from 2001, maybe the best World Series I have ever watched.  Just outstanding.
amen.

 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: headhunter on October 29, 2011, 12:25:08 am
I am looking for a link to the commercial now.
http://www.google.com/insidesearch/stories.html

Brian Kingrey story. would it have been even more horrible if SNS was the site the rainman of baseball simulations used to get his million-dollar-earning scouting report from? I don't know, but doesn't it seem like the BBG are taking every opportunity to shit on the Astros this season?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: chuck on October 29, 2011, 01:42:33 am
...the guy comes across as an old-fashioned Texas-style mensch.

To me he comes across as a Texas-style dumbfuck.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 29, 2011, 09:01:11 am
I don't hate Lance, or even dislike him. I think he's got a goofiness about him that can toggle between alienating and endearing. But I'm not happy for him. I'm only happy that Lynn Nolan and the DFW Rangers lost.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on October 29, 2011, 09:03:12 am
Also, for obvious reasons, I would love it if Jim Crane changed the name of the team to the Texas Astros.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ebby Calvin on October 29, 2011, 09:08:06 am
Welcome, Void.
Good Series, considering worst-case teams.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Waldo on October 29, 2011, 09:10:15 am
Welcome, Void.

The good news is that I can finally get around to fixing user registration.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Fredia on October 29, 2011, 09:32:13 am
i have to say this twice one strike away from winning
can you imagine the silver boot thingie had the  strangers won..the only texas baseball team with a ......
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Jose Cruz III on October 29, 2011, 11:34:07 am
How About this one, Rueben?



http://sportschump.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nolan-ryan-george-bush-rangers-game.jpg
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 29, 2011, 12:03:24 pm
How About this one, Rueben?



http://sportschump.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nolan-ryan-george-bush-rangers-game.jpg
There you go.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Reuben on October 29, 2011, 12:14:38 pm
+1

I am only happy for Berkman. Lance also spends a lot of time with microphones in his face and sans teleprompter or handlers the guy comes across as an old-fashioned Texas-style mensch. I think he reflects well on himself, his family, and Texas. Yeah, he was complacent on the Astros for a long while. But he got serious, picked himself up, and played at a level he hadn't done for years. And after a great comeback season he had a postseason performance that was better than anything Bagwell or Biggio ever did--including doing his part to keep his team alive in game six. How can you not respect this guy? Hate him if you want but I just don't get it.

I'm happy Berkman did well in so far as it helps people realize what a great player he was in his prime, with the Astros, and by extension reminds a few people that they were once an NL powerhouse.

Lance hit very well in these playoffs, as he did in '04 and '05 with the Astros. But I don't see what that has to do with Bagwell and Biggio. For one thing, Lance wasn't exactly facing Maddux Glavine and Smoltz in their primes this year (Halladay excepted).
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 29, 2011, 02:21:54 pm
I am tickled that fuckhead Ryan came so close to winning but didn't. Ron Washington is an idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 29, 2011, 03:44:18 pm
I am tickled that fuckhead Ryan came so close to winning but didn't. Ron Washington is an idiot.
If an idiot can get you to game 7 of the WS, who needs a manager?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 29, 2011, 03:56:33 pm
If an idiot can get you to game 7 of the WS, who needs a manager?

Okay, Lurch. You've obviously joined Bench on the Let's Give Mr. Happy Shit team. Washington made some unconventional, bordering on malpractice, moves in the WS. Defend IBB's when your pitchers obviously are having trouble with command. Defend some of his PH moves. I can't wait for this. I suspect that you will do nothing but show your abject baseball ignorance. Let's see it. Players win games; managers lose some games. I'm not saying that Washington lost any of these games, but some of his moves caused even a casual baseball fan to wince.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: VirtualBob on October 29, 2011, 04:08:15 pm
Okay, Lurch. You've obviously joined Bench on the Let's Give Mr. Happy Shit team. Washington made some unconventional, bordering on malpractice, moves in the WS. Defend IBB's when your pitchers obviously are having trouble with command. Defend some of his PH moves. I can't wait for this. I suspect that you will do nothing but show your abject baseball ignorance. Let's see it. Players win games; managers lose some games. I'm not saying that Washington lost any of these games, but some of his moves caused even a casual baseball fan to wince.
WFWincer
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: jbm on October 29, 2011, 04:24:11 pm
I think Washngton is a damn good manager. His in-game moves might be questionable, but he seems to get quite a bit out of his players.  Just go player by player, and a lot of the Rangers have played some of best baseball the last few years.  When a whole slew of players on a team seem to play up, the manager deserves some credit IMO. 
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: OregonStrosFan on October 29, 2011, 04:29:41 pm
You've obviously joined Bench on the Let's Give Mr. Happy Shit team.

Wasn't joining said team a prerequisite of SnS membership?!?!?
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lurch on October 29, 2011, 05:18:44 pm
Okay, Lurch. You've obviously joined Bench on the Let's Give Mr. Happy Shit team. Washington made some unconventional, bordering on malpractice, moves in the WS. Defend IBB's when your pitchers obviously are having trouble with command. Defend some of his PH moves. I can't wait for this. I suspect that you will do nothing but show your abject baseball ignorance. Let's see it. Players win games; managers lose some games. I'm not saying that Washington lost any of these games, but some of his moves caused even a casual baseball fan to wince.

If your going to stand by calling him an idiot, I don't think anything else needs to be said.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Bench on October 29, 2011, 06:22:03 pm
I'm comfortable in a world where the Rangers are the Buffalo Bills of MLB.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 29, 2011, 06:35:37 pm
I think Washngton is a damn good manager. His in-game moves might be questionable, but he seems to get quite a bit out of his players.  Just go player by player, and a lot of the Rangers have played some of best baseball the last few years.  When a whole slew of players on a team seem to play up, the manager deserves some credit IMO. 

The GM deserves more credit for assembling a good team because the manager works with what he has. See Mills, Brad. I think that Washington might be a decent manager, but he may have choked a bit, like his bullpen, in the big game.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 30, 2011, 01:44:02 am
I told the cards fans at game 3 they'd better enjoy Berkman, since he was their 1B next year.

my one baseball source says AP is not leaving StL
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 30, 2011, 07:38:20 am
The GM deserves more credit for assembling a good team because the manager works with what he has. See Mills, Brad. I think that Washington might be a decent manager, but he may have choked a bit, like his bullpen, in the big game.

The only Ranger games I've seen with Washington managing have been playoff games from last year and this year. He drives me up the wall. Washington might be a great player's manager, might be a fantastic guy in the clubhouse, etc. but I don't know how you could watch him the way we watch the Astros, night in and night out. Maybe if you get a thrill for the unexpected and inexplicable.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Fredia on October 30, 2011, 10:29:12 am
plus he is always chewing seeds
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 30, 2011, 10:32:34 am
my one baseball source says AP is not leaving StL


I would be shocked (or gobsmacked as Limey would say) if Pujols left St Louis.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: HudsonHawk on October 30, 2011, 10:33:42 am
I think Washngton is a damn good manager. His in-game moves might be questionable, but he seems to get quite a bit out of his players.  Just go player by player, and a lot of the Rangers have played some of best baseball the last few years.  When a whole slew of players on a team seem to play up, the manager deserves some credit IMO. 

In other words, he's Phil Garner.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Ron Brand on October 30, 2011, 10:44:58 am

I would be shocked (or gobsmacked as Limey would say) if Pujols left St Louis.

LaRussa is supposedly coming back. I can't see him hanging around for another season without his boytoy.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 30, 2011, 11:21:59 am
Wasn't joining said team a prerequisite of SnS membership?!?!?

As a matter of fact, yes.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: BudGirl on October 30, 2011, 11:38:47 am
I have to admit, I'm glad the Rangers did not win.  But, I'm not happy the Cards won either.

I guess I'm not always right with my predictions.  But, I was pretty damm close to being right.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Mr. Happy on October 30, 2011, 11:51:45 am
I have to admit, I'm glad the Rangers did not win.  But, I'm not happy the Cards won either.

I guess I'm not always right with my predictions.  But, I was pretty damm close to being right.

One strike away twice. That's pretty damn close. I feel the same way you do.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 30, 2011, 11:32:05 pm
I really hope the Rangers do not end up winning the World Series. I cannot go through life with the possibility of the Rangers winning a World Series before the Astros or the Astros never winning a World Series ever.

I guess you're off the suicide watch.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 30, 2011, 11:38:30 pm
The Astros are practically being FORCED to move to the AL fucking West.  I can't go to a Round Rock Express game anymore because they're the fucking Rangers.  All I want to see is fucking Rangers' fans tears and heartbreak, for a long, LONG time.  I'm happy the NL won the series.  I don't fucking care at this point if it was the Jakes.  Pooholes already has a goddamn ring anyway, so fuck it.  My feelings of hatred for the Dallas Rangers of Nolan County far outweigh anything I have left for Saint Louis. And after much consideration, I am happy for Lance.  He didn't abandon the Astros, he was traded.  And I'm happy for Dotel, too.  But mostly, mostly... I am just so happy that the entire fucking metroplex is crying in their light beers tonight.  And for them to FAIL so DRAMATICALLY... twice!  Waldo, I do not have any trouble conjuring up strong feelings about this one.

I didn't think the Round Rock Express family experience could be ruined for me due to an affiliation change.  But it was so drastic, we only went to two games this year, after going to 6-10 every year for a decade.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 30, 2011, 11:44:09 pm
The only Ranger games I've seen with Washington managing have been playoff games from last year and this year. He drives me up the wall. Washington might be a great player's manager, might be a fantastic guy in the clubhouse, etc. but I don't know how you could watch him the way we watch the Astros, night in and night out. Maybe if you get a thrill for the unexpected and inexplicable.

It's not like he had a defensive replacement for Nelson Cruz sitting in the dugouot; a guy known for making a huge postseason catch against the Cardinals or anything.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: ValpoCory on October 31, 2011, 07:27:29 am
I have to admit, I'm glad the Rangers did not win.  But, I'm not happy the Cards won either.

I guess I'm not always right with my predictions.  But, I was pretty damm close to being right.

+1.  Agreed.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: JimR on October 31, 2011, 09:09:39 am
I didn't think the Round Rock Express family experience could be ruined for me due to an affiliation change.  But it was so drastic, we only went to two games this year, after going to 6-10 every year for a decade.


things changed a lot out there. i gave up my season tickets the season before the affiliation change. it no longer was a fun experience for me.
Title: Re: 2011 Playoffs
Post by: Lefty on November 01, 2011, 12:23:42 am
In other words, he's Phil Garner.

I was thinking Dierker.